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Colegreen_c12
02/09/21 4:28:02 PM
#51:


The real problem is your buying warrants not actual shares of the company lol

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Sunroof
02/09/21 4:29:48 PM
#52:


Lmao. Yes, that would be the root of it.
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Lopen
02/09/21 4:30:54 PM
#53:


I really think these warrants are going to be painful for moonroof

Like are you ready to hold if they drop to $0.40? Cause they could.

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masterplum
02/09/21 4:31:57 PM
#54:


Yeah, I've eyed these warrants and just bought 100 shares instead

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 4:34:12 PM
#55:


Lopen posted...
I really think these warrants are going to be painful for moonroof

Like are you ready to hold if they drop to $0.40? Cause they could.

Very important point as well. Again, if ER/call is disappointing this could absolutely happen. This is another trade you need to treat long term. You seem to have your mind settled with holding crypto long term, you should trade warrants the same way. Personally, I only sell warrants on the explosive moves.

So yeah, I will sell and get back if it explodes after ER/call/any potential news. And gladly buy more if it dips to juicy prices like .40 again.

Just don't Moonroof this one up and panic sell.

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Lopen
02/09/21 4:34:29 PM
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I mean you couldn't even hold TRVN through a loss of less than 10% (you'd be up over 25% right now if you'd held until now) I just see this not ending well. Getting shook out at a 5 cent drop a few days before it jumps 30.

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Sunroof
02/09/21 4:34:32 PM
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Im Hold Master Flux ever since AMC

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 4:41:05 PM
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I held AVCTW with a .70 average, with it being 80% of my portfolio at the time, all throughout it dipping as low as .22. Just bought more when it was under .30 and eventually got to a .50 average. Held for like 5 months before they came back and went as high as .94 before settling where they are now. That's why my account went as low as 15k all the way back up to 64k.

AVCT has been a good teacher for me on long term investments. But I'm ready for it to become my money maker in due time.

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Nanis23
02/09/21 4:56:13 PM
#59:


I am excited for $KO earnings tomorrow
I have $5000 on it which is more than I am usually investing in a stock lately so please please please don't disappoint me
I will be happy with just 2%

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 5:08:46 PM
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masterplum posted...
Yeah, I've eyed these warrants and just bought 100 shares instead

Buy some $10 calls imo if you want to trade more of the commons

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 5:14:52 PM
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@Lopen Strike price on GSMG warrants is indeed 11.50. Also warrants trade at 1/2 prices, unlike AVCT warrants which trade at 2. Discord tells me that if the warrants were following commons accurately right now, they'd already be at 40 cents. Definitely loading back up there very soon.

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Lopen
02/09/21 5:25:36 PM
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Good to know. I'll probably load some up tomorrow.

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Sunroof
02/09/21 5:29:36 PM
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GSMGW is half the value of GSMG?
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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 5:44:38 PM
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Sunroof posted...
GSMGW is half the value of GSMG?

I don't think that's how it works, no. Warrants have an intrinsic value relative to the stock but I don't think 1/2 warrants means they're worth half of the common stock, it's just 1/2 relative to the standard 1:1 warrant agreement that warrants usually trade at.

I think that's right anyway. I'm new to this too so I just rely on the discord peeps for these things. Either way, if they're bullish on something, it's probably a good bet!

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greengravy294
02/09/21 5:44:38 PM
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I think Coke will have great numbers. I just don't know where it will go on it. The stable stocks like Coke and Nike (which went up alot recently) tend to not really move too much

But who knows it's a pandemic

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ChaosTonyV4
02/09/21 5:50:50 PM
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My free RH stock of Zynga is cents way from an all time high, lol might cash out and get a free lunch.

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Lopen
02/09/21 5:56:50 PM
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So wait does that mean it takes 2 warrants to equal one share?

The upside is actually a lot lower with that formula. I mean if it breaches $11.50 you're going to make a ton of money either way but the value of the warrant would basically scale at (X - $11.50)/2 rather than (X - $11.50). So if it hits say $17.50 your warrants would be worth $3 not $6

At least I think that's how it works? Correct me if I'm wrong.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:01:59 PM
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Fwiw my area seems to be alot more coke sided than pepsi that's personal experience bias

Cuz I prefer pepsi

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Colegreen_c12
02/09/21 6:08:26 PM
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Lopen posted...
So wait does that mean it takes 2 warrants to equal one share?

The upside is actually a lot lower with that formula. I mean if it breaches $11.50 you're going to make a ton of money either way but the value of the warrant would basically scale at (X - $11.50)/2 rather than (X - $11.50). So if it hits say $17.50 your warrants would be worth $3 not $6

At least I think that's how it works? Correct me if I'm wrong.

This is my understanding

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:14:50 PM
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Lopen make me money tell me what to do besides invest in AMD leaps

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Nanis23
02/09/21 6:17:45 PM
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greengravy294 posted...
I think Coke will have great numbers. I just don't know where it will go on it. The stable stocks like Coke and Nike (which went up alot recently) tend to not really move too much

But who knows it's a pandemic
It went down from 55 to 48 because JP Morgan decided to kill it. Gave like 3 or 4 downgrades to $KO. I want to believe it was a bullshit move and we will see tomorrow

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Lopen
02/09/21 6:20:01 PM
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greengravy294 posted...
Lopen make me money tell me what to do besides invest in AMD leaps

Put all your money into 1/23 BP calls

Glorious British Oil.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:20:09 PM
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Nanis23 posted...
It went down from 55 to 48 because JP Morgan decided to kill it. Gave like 3 or 4 downgrades to $KO. I want to believe it was a bullshit move and we will see tomorrow
I personally wouldn't touch it but it, to me, seems like only way is to go up really.

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red sox 777
02/09/21 6:21:42 PM
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I feel KO is undervalued. Where I'm hesitant with investing in it is that the rate of return for such a big, established, company might not match some of the stellar rates we're seeing with smaller companies nowadays.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:22:52 PM
#75:


Lopen posted...
Put all your money into 1/23 BP calls

Glorious British Oil.
Your bp calls failed me as soon as the Brits got a variant covid strain bro

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masterplum
02/09/21 6:22:53 PM
#76:


StartTheMachine posted...
Buy some $10 calls imo if you want to trade more of the commons

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 6:25:48 PM
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Lopen posted...
So wait does that mean it takes 2 warrants to equal one share?

The upside is actually a lot lower with that formula. I mean if it breaches $11.50 you're going to make a ton of money either way but the value of the warrant would basically scale at (X - $11.50)/2 rather than (X - $11.50). So if it hits say $17.50 your warrants would be worth $3 not $6

At least I think that's how it works? Correct me if I'm wrong.

Basically copy pasted this and the discord confirms its correct. So yes, at $17.50 the warrants would be worth $3. IEA warrants also trade at 1/2.

Another reason AVCT warrants are so damn appealing and my favorite warrant play.

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Lopen
02/09/21 6:26:27 PM
#78:


Safer strat

Divide your funds between these equally

Blocks of 100 shares of FUBO
Blocks of 100 shares of FSR
ATHX shares
TRVN shares
BP 1/23 calls ($20 strike)

Each week sell covered calls of FUBO and FSR to get passive income. Put the money gained from those aside. Eventually get a long call of FUBO and FSR per block of 100 you have to give yourself moon insurance. (do FUBO first)

BP and TRVN will double in value in the next year. ATHX could stagnate or go 10x. FUBO and FSR could go way up but you're just abusing those for covered call money.

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Lopen
02/09/21 6:27:56 PM
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QuantumScape also a viable candidate for call selling if you prefer to go that way.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:30:14 PM
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Didn't QS poop itself like 2 months ago

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neonreaper
02/09/21 6:33:46 PM
#81:


I smell like I pooped myself

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Lopen
02/09/21 6:35:12 PM
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It's held stable in the $40 range after that correction. Think it's a fairly safe buy right now. You would want to be aggressive with call selling with it though. Like if you buy at $44 sell the call for $44.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 6:40:28 PM
#83:


Lopen posted...
It's held stable in the $40 range after that correction. Think it's a fairly safe buy right now. You would want to be aggressive with call selling with it though. Like if you buy at $44 sell the call for $44.
Oh wow I didn't realize it went down to 40ish lol I member it at 90 day after

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Lopen
02/09/21 6:43:00 PM
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Yeah I currently have 200 shares bought at $45.50 average. Have made about $500 from sold calls having only held them for about a week. Will make a lot more if it finishes this week under $44.

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greengravy294
02/09/21 7:27:27 PM
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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 7:46:45 PM
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...huh. Someone bought 400k worth of AVCTW...after hours. Interestingly, they bought it without really mooning the price at all, so the understanding on the discord is that this was likely one hedge fund selling to another hedge fund at an agreed price.

Either way the universe is colluding against me from being able to load more warrants in the .50s. Goddammit

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CoolCly
02/09/21 8:58:31 PM
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Is FSR actually profitable? I think my broker charges like $13 to sell an option and $25 if it is exercised which means the proceeds from a 100 share call would have to be minimum $40 to be at all profitable, and a lot higher to be worth it for the investment on the shares.

Or do you not have these options fees?

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CoolCly
02/09/21 8:59:10 PM
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Also is BP on the london stock exchange? I think my broker only has access to Canadian and US stock exchanges... and OTC I guess.

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StartTheMachine
02/09/21 9:15:14 PM
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What broker are you using, Cly? TD Ameritrade only charges 65 cents for options trades.

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masterplum
02/09/21 10:48:32 PM
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CoolCly
02/09/21 11:15:52 PM
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Questrade, I think the default is $9.95 per trade +$1 per contract, plus another $25 fee if it ends up being exercised

I need to do some more research on other brokers but for the most part, I don't think this too unusual in Canada, and most brokers require a higher balance than I can front to even get started (like $25k or some shit)

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Lopen
02/10/21 12:39:39 AM
#92:


Yeah I get $0.50 fee for options contracts on E-Trade. That's the only chomp out of my profits whether executed or not. That rate you were saying is outrageous.

Robinhood was free too

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Sunroof
02/10/21 8:40:03 AM
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So apparently Democrats announced over the weekend that they are legalizing cannabis? We kissed out on all cannabis gains. Dang.
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neonreaper
02/10/21 8:45:03 AM
#94:


Yeah but you either bet on that stuff before the election or you were gonna miss out anywayz

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Sunroof
02/10/21 8:45:39 AM
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Lot of them went up 30%+ since Friday. Oh well.
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Sunroof
02/10/21 8:48:44 AM
#96:


This is a paper thin strategy, but it seems that whatever stocks increase a lot one day go up a modest amount the following day.

https://www.tradingview.com/markets/stocks-usa/market-movers-gainers/

All of those top ones are up still pre-market. This has been the pattern for a while. Could be an easy way to make quick gains.
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Sunroof
02/10/21 9:12:58 AM
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Square and DraftKings are on my radar for next ER stocks (reporting week of 2/22). So if you want to get in on them before the hype, now is the time. SQ seems better than DKNG but I dont know. I think theyll both go up.
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CaptainOfCrush
02/10/21 9:46:11 AM
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Finally breaking even on ITHUF after being in the red since buying it during the Covid crash. At least I should probably have longterm tax treatment whenever I decide to unload it.

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masterplum
02/10/21 9:49:11 AM
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StartTheMachine
02/10/21 10:10:39 AM
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Oof feels like I bought bitcoin at the worst possible time. Had a feeling that was going to be the case and it wouldn't be able to break 50k resistance again.

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