Board 8 > Suprak plays DANGANRONPA 2 (but for real this time)

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Off the top of my head I remember Akane calls Fuyuhiko Baby Gangsta

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I like DR2s individual characters more, but the cast cohesion favors DR1. Most of the characters have some kind of interaction or opinion of each other, whereas I cant think of any time Akane speaks to Fuyuhiko or Kazuichi, and shes an endgame character.

This.

DR2s cast all feel unique and individually interesting (if not likable, since I outright hate a quarter of them). But DRs cast feels like they mesh better and have more complex interpersonal dynamics.

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V3 gets the best of both worlds.

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UshiromiyaEva posted...

V3 gets the best of both worlds.

exactly the reason its the best of the three

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Amen.

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More than anything this topic is making me want to skip UDG and 3 to go straight to V3. But I'm afraid I'll just never go back at that point. Right now, finishing those is my incentive to get to V3!

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Suprak the Stud posted...

More than anything this topic is making me want to skip UDG and 3 to go straight to V3. But I'm afraid I'll just never go back at that point.

ah. the path i walked. >_>

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I mean, we could give you the cliffsnotes version if you prefer. I personally didn't dislike 3, myself, but then again, I watched it BEFORE playing 2 at all.

It kept me hooked while it was running, which is more than I can say for playing UDG, even if a few UDG characters exist in 3.

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Man, don't tell him anything. Let him play UDG and watch DR3 and come to the conclusion that the first is bleh and the second is atrocious all on his own.

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All I will say is that playing UDG and watching DR3 is not necessary at all for V3, so if you want to keep it to just the games, there is no issue.

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This next spot is quite hard because there's like four characters I want to put here. We are now entering the next tier of characters. I'll call this tier the "Scrappy Doo" Tier A.K.A. the "Characters I Go Out Of My Way To Voice My Hatred Of Every Time They Get Mentioned" Tier. These characters aren't quite as bad as the absolute bottom tier, but only because those characters are so dumb just in concept I think they make the game worse just by existing. This tier of characters are characters that are merely incredibly annoying or off-putting or poorly written. These are the characters who talk to you in the games and you respond with some variation of "of fuck not this guy again" every time they speak. There might be one or two very minor things you like about them or scenes you don't mind, but for the most part this is the irredeemable tier

I'm sure everyone has at least a couple of these. I am also going to guess this tier will not be as controversial as my last tier, but who knows!

M&M In A Bowl Full Of Skittles Tier:
40) Toko Fukawa
39) Ultimate Imposter

Scrappy Doo Tier:
38) ??? (not the character, this is just a generic placeholder, fuck this dude even ruined the visualized concept of the unknown)

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Just finished DR2 today. Thank you again for helping me solve the shitty gravel/swimsuit thing which is possibly the worst solution in the game. I can finally read the whole topic too! I mostly agree with you on the characters, especially that they're better in this game, but Kaizuchi sucks. He only exists as a plot device and is unbearable whenever he is around and goddammit why would they kill Hiyoko instead of him? Did that asshole really just survive so he could fix an elevator and be useless for another two chapters? I think this game had the stronger cast by far, but the survivors were relatively worse than the original's. Not that hard when there were only five decent characters in the first compared to eleven in this one, but still. Also, the voice acting is such a step up in this game, and I thought Nagisa was Makoto from the start because I figured out the anagram as soon as he started jerking off to hope, thought I was really smart, and then it ended up meaning nothing.

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I hate to say that I love Kazuichi's visual design and giant WTF during trial 2, but his "being a creeper on Sonya and a giant coward otherwise" made me hope for his death after chapter 3 or so.

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I put Souda over some of the losers from DR1, but that says more about them than him.

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Oh yeah his design is great and I did the thing exact thing which I did with Leon too where I was like "hell yeah I want this dude to be my game bro" and then I spent a few free times with him and realised he was awful and had no interesting or redeeming qualities.

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#38: Teruteru Hanamura
Main Cast (Male) Ranking: 15/16
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Cook
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate HR Liability

There are a lot of characters I don't like in the Danganronpa games that I could at least see having some sort of fanbase. I've got some coming up where, while I don't personally like the characters, I can at least see their appeal. Even characters I've already talked about, I know at least one has a sizable fanbase and the other seems to be at least tolerated by the majority of people that play the game. However, I can't imagine anyone liking Teruteru. There just isn't a market for "short fat annoying perverts that can only say something categorically gross everytime they open their fat short annoying mouths". I feel like the general consensus to Teruteru being ranked low is going to be a "yeah fuck that guy" and that's about it.

Teruteru is so damn unlikable that I have to think that was the point. Like, thinking about him I can pretty clearly see what kind of character I think they were going here and what they were actually trying to say about him. And I think they did a good job with this. But there is a difference between a character I think is well executed and a character I actually like. Teruteru isn't even in a class of "love to hate" type of characters. His personality is so grating and his character is so unappealing in every single facet that it is impossible to like him, or even be impressed with what the writers were trying to pull off.

The biggest problem is he is a comic relief character that is not funny, and is instead incredibly off-putting in everything he says. This game is a HORNY game with a capital penis, and there are like eight different characters here that either want to have sex with Hajime or each other. But even in this sea of hormones, Teruteru seems out of place. His horniness seems weird. Almost like he's an alien familiar with the concept that humans like sex but didn't get to the chapter in their book to show what appropriate flirting was. Obvious these characters have exaggerated personalities or quirks that tend to get highlighted, but Teruteru almost only has a single personality trait. He'll talk about cooking or he'll talk about sex, and that's it. It is unfunny line after unfunny line, and it is amazing that Teruteru gets as grating as he does considering he dies at the very beginning of the game. His whole schtick is tried and overplayed almost immediately. It isn't fun not only because it is weird, but because it feels lazy. These aren't hilarious jokes, but the most bottom of the barrel obvious sort of things that any 10 year old hyped up on caffeine and a Dane Cook stand up set from 2005 can make. These are barely jokes. Sonia will say something and Teruteru will go "PENIS PENIS BONER VAGINA" and that's about it.

I'm also not entirely sure what Teruteru's sexuality is. He appears to be bisexual, which could be interesting because I can't really name too many characters in any game that are written as bisexual, and not bisexual through the result of player choice. Teruteru at various times indicates he wants to fuck Sonia, Hajime, Peko, and probably the bone in the meat, too. He comes off as less bisexual, and more hornysexual, where he just wants to hump whatever is closest to him. It makes him extra gross because it feels like he is less a character and more a dog looking for a leg hump. I feel like it was intentional, as it really fits into his underlying persona of trying so hard to make himself look more adult and mature that he is. Like is has this insane view of what sexuality is and how he connects it with maturity, so rather than expressing himself naturally every single thing he says has to be some form of sexual harassment or sexual innuendo. Unfortunately, even if it "fits" with his character, it doesn't make him any more pleasant to talk to and almost every conversation with him is exhausting.

I feel like his sole redeeming character feature is that he likes his mom, but that says a lot more about his mom than him. Most people like their mom, unless their mom was terrible to them, so loving your mom is sort of like scraping the bottom of the barrel when it comes to trying to cram in some character traits that make your characters less hateable. But I don't think they even do that right. If there is anything that Teruteru is desperate to do in this game, even more so than getting back to momma, is convincing everyone that he doesn't come from where he comes from. He is embarrassed of his upbringing, his culture, and by extent his family. They can say he loves his mom, but I think he comes off as more confused. He's hiding where he comes from the entire game because he doesn't want people to know he is some bumpkin kid from a little town and his mom is some small town cook that doesn't have the prestige he thinks is important to becoming a chef.

Teruteru is the kind of guy that has a hard time admitting things to himself. He views himself as this sexual dynamo, a mature and erudite adult who's specialty are these sophisticated dishes, but none of this is really true. In his free time segments, Hajime even comments all the dishes he makes are these common, homestyle type cooking (which is amazing) but Teruteru keeps coming up with these elaborate names for them to disguise the fact that he's just cooking the kind of stuff he learned from home. He even lies to himself at the trial, claiming he killed Nagito because he was going to kill Byakuya and a sort of defense of the group, unable to admit he just wanted to get home until the very, very end. Obviously, killing Byakuya or Nagito means everyone else in the group would die, and instead of informing the others of Nagito's plan when told he tries to kill him because he is desperate to get home. Him putting on this noble act is just yet another lie Teruteru tells, and we only get a glimpse at the real Teruteru at the very end. Crying for momma with his real accent. That's who Teruteru is. Everything else is just an act.

I think Teruteru best sums up how he sees himself in his brief time with us. After saying something gross, he goes, "I may be a pervert, but I'm the kind of pervert everyone likes!" Just as a heads up Teruteru, there is no pervert that people like. But, at least, I believe that he believes this. He thinks him being a pervert endears him to other people. He views that as a fun character trait as it, so he highlights it as often as he can. By making 95% of his dialogue related to this in some way. Everything is him trying to get women to look at his loins or attempting to trick Sonia into sucking poison out of his penis, and it is a constant, non-stop deluge of gross things that, more than anything, makes it feel like he is trying too hard. He is a momma's boy, country bumpkin that at some point confused sexual harassment with being a mature grown up man, and doesn't know how to prove to everyone else that he isn't a immature, unsophisticated little kid anymore.

So while I think he is a well executed character, and I get the choices they made, he is so unlikable, so awkward, so gross and annoying and one note that I simply do not care. One of the best things Danganronpa 2 did was killing this guy off immediately, so we weren't subjected to ten more hours of unfunny sexual innuendos.

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Sheep007 posted...

Just finished DR2 today. Thank you again for helping me solve the shitty gravel/swimsuit thing which is possibly the worst solution in the game. I can finally read the whole topic too! I mostly agree with you on the characters, especially that they're better in this game, but Kaizuchi sucks. He only exists as a plot device and is unbearable whenever he is around and goddammit why would they kill Hiyoko instead of him? Did that asshole really just survive so he could fix an elevator and be useless for another two chapters? I think this game had the stronger cast by far, but the survivors were relatively worse than the original's. Not that hard when there were only five decent characters in the first compared to eleven in this one, but still. Also, the voice acting is such a step up in this game, and I thought Nagisa was Makoto from the start because I figured out the anagram as soon as he started jerking off to hope, thought I was really smart, and then it ended up meaning nothing.

Haha thanks! Nice to see a former MAFIA PAL showing up in time for my Danganronpa 2 playthrough. Thanks for following along! And glad I could help with that nonsensical part of trial 2 without spoiling anything.

I have more thoughts on Kazuichi, but I'll save it for my ranking since this is taking me forever anyway...

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Teruteru has exactly one moment of value, and it's when he yells "AVRILE LAVIGNE!"

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Suprak the Stud posted...

So while I think he is a well executed character, and I get the choices they made, he is so unlikable, so awkward, so gross and annoying and one note that I simply do not care. One of the best things Danganronpa 2 did was killing this guy off immediately, so we weren't subjected to ten more hours of unfunny sexual innuendos.

Yeah, I have a slightly higher opinion of Teruteru (not by much), but writing him as the case 1 killer was the perfect amount of time to give him in the game. I find him amusing for a bit of time, but it's long enough for his horniness to get long in the tooth, but when he does provide some good comedy when he's accused of the the Imposter's murder such as the AVRIL LAVIGNE/PARIS HILTON shouts or Monomi translating his country accent. Any longer and he would have seriously drug the game down.

Plus, him breaking down over his mother is horrifying to look back at with the context of him being an Ultimate Despair, because you know damn well he was one of the Despairs that murdered their families and it's left to the imagination how that went down.

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Suprak the Stud posted...

Haha thanks! Nice to see a former MAFIA PAL showing up in time for my Danganronpa 2 playthrough. Thanks for following along! And glad I could help with that nonsensical part of trial 2 without spoiling anything.

I dunno about you but I actually got the games because of mafia (like it's basically mafia in anime game form) and I've been absolutely powering through them. Going to finish v3 these next couple of weeks so I can read any playthrough topic straight away because these writeups are gold. I also have Ultra Despair Girls but will probably give that one and the anime a miss for the time being

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I liked the anime.

I also like Final Fantasy 15 though, so I cannot be trusted

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the concept of ultimate imposter is hilariously stupid, but it's definitely part of the case where it's still enjoyable to me so i'd have him higher-ranked by a fair margin. just the idea that byakuya became a loving leader but somehow got insanely fat was amazing.

teruteru is probably my bottom character, along with hifumi, who i have to imagine is coming soon

Suprak the Stud posted...

Just as a heads up Teruteru, there is no pervert that people like.

as for this, this very clearly isn't true. people seem to like master roshi from dragon ball, for example. it's sadly very common in anime-adjacent media to have "lovable perverts"

not that you don't get this in western works too, of course
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I do agree with the assessment that him yelling AVRIL LAVIGNE was his best moment.

Sheep007 posted...

I dunno about you but I actually got the games because of mafia (like it's basically mafia in anime game form) and I've been absolutely powering through them. Going to finish v3 these next couple of weeks so I can read any playthrough topic straight away because these writeups are gold. I also have Ultra Despair Girls but will probably give that one and the anime a miss for the time being

Good luck! I plan on finishing Demons Souls for PS5 before moving on to UDG and the anime, so I'm likely a couple of months out from V3 still. I'll see you on the other side...eventually.

PunishedBen posted...

I liked the anime.

I also like Final Fantasy 15 though, so I cannot be trusted

This is the first good thing I've heard about the anime all topic, so I'm not at least hopeful it isn't Lunar: Dragon Song levels of bad to the franchise!

SeabassDebeste posted...

the concept of ultimate imposter is hilariously stupid, but it's definitely part of the case where it's still enjoyable to me so i'd have him higher-ranked by a fair margin. just the idea that byakuya became a loving leader but somehow got insanely fat was amazing.

teruteru is probably my bottom character, along with hifumi, who i have to imagine is coming soon

as for this, this very clearly isn't true. people seem to like master roshi from dragon ball, for example. it's sadly very common in anime-adjacent media to have "lovable perverts"

not that you don't get this in western works too, of course

That's a fair counter point, I suppose. I didn't think Master Roshi was likable, but I do see a fair amount of merchandise featuring him so again he has to have an audience somewhere.

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Also: PLATINUM GET

I finished the final dating endings last night and read through IF. The combination of free time and these two extra bonus content did wind up elevating 3 characters in the final rankings. One by just a place, but the other two by decent chunks.

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So what were your thoughts on IF?

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Suprak the Stud posted...

The combination of free time and these two extra bonus content did wind up elevating 3 characters in the final rankings. One by just a place, but the other two by decent chunks.

Mukuro, Nagito, and... idk Fuyuhiko?

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I thought IF was interesting. I loved they included it as a free pack on bonus, at the very least. I was actually really impressed with all the extra stuff on here as a whole, but IF was probably my favorite addition I think? There was a lot of interesting insight in there that really helps with some of the backstory stuff, so I'm really glad they included it. Obviously it isn't canon, but I feel like I can at least treat the backstory stuff as canon as that happens regardless of how Danganronpa plays out.

Something else that was cool was that it really I thought demonstrated what it meant to be an ultimate more than the games themselves even did. Not just Mukuro, but Sakura and Mondo and Chihiro and Kyoko all get little bits to show off. I was definitely a fan, overall.

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OH! Something super interesting about IF that got me thinking. There was one line in there where Mukuro says something along the lines of "you know you can't get this group to give into despair" which is why Junko was having them kill each other instead. And it was weird thinking about some of the characters who gave into despair vs. those who didn't.

Like Junko couldn't get Mondo in Ultimate Despair with how guilty he felt over his brother? Sayaka tries to murder someone within a day over the thought of her group breakingup. Toko is a literal serial killer and Celeste seems excited to murder someone. You wouldn't think it would be that hard. And then on the other side you have Akane and Ibuki and Nekomaru and Gundham and you would think it'd be much harder to turn them. The anime will be interesting to see if stuff like that is covered at all.

Anyway.

COMING UP NEXT: The least sympathetic victim in either game.

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Presumably Mukuro, unless you're counting IF, which you might be. If not, then Hifumi, if he counts as a victim instead of a killer.

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#37: Natsumi Kuzuryu
Supporting Cast Ranking: 8/8
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Little Sister
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Asshole

For the purposes of this list, supporting cast is anyone who isn't enrolled at Hope's Peak as part of the deadly life. So you get some characters which huge parts and some characters that have no lines. Natsumi winds up being one of those characters with no lines, and it is amazing how effectively this game makes me hate someone with zero lines. Natsumi Kuzuryu might legitimately be the absolute worst person at this entire school, and I feel the need to point out that there are at least two people on this list that are almost certainly a part of multiple sex offender registries across multiple countries.

Natsumi gets zero lines of her own, so a lot of what I'm going off here is based on second hand accounts from a handful of different characters. But all of it is straight up TERRIBLE. We find out that Sato kills Natsumi because Natsumi had been tormenting Sato's friend (Mahiru) for years. There's a lot to unpack there. What kind of asshole torments Mahiru? Even Hiyoko liked Mahiru and Hiyoko likes no one. Sato hypothesizes it was because the two were in the same photography club in middle school and Natsumi was jealous of Mahiru's talent. Imagine being such a jealous asshole that you decided to pick on someone because they were better than you were at taking photos in the seventh grade.

On top of that, imagine being such a living terror, such an unrelenting source of pain and misery, that someone kills you over it. That's how bad Natsumi was. She drove a high school girl to murder to protect her friend. Sato comes with the (very reasonable) request to "please stop making Mahiru hate life and just leave her alone" and Natsumi's response is to basically say "DON'T YOU KNOW WHO MY DAD IS" before saying she'll start tormenting Sato, too. Her response to "please don't be such a terrible person" was to go "I will be even more terrible". And then, on top of this, she is so weak and pathetic that Sato actually succeeds in killing her. This girl was raised in some sort of gangster family and some random kid is able to kill her easily. Like Sato doesn't even have defensive wounds that anyone comments on at least.

I will say that depending on what is shown in DR3, Natsumi probably has the greatest ability to jump up if I do these rankings again later. The perspective here isn't 100% reliable since I'm going off the words mostly of the girl who killed her. She is obviously giving a slanted perspective, so if they cover this in DR3 and Sato is just some lunatic, Natsumi might wind up getting a boost. However, I really don't think this is that far off the mark. We see how Fuyuhiko behaves in the early cases and how entitled and cruel he comes off, and it seems safe to assume that if Natsumi was raised in this same environment, she might wind up with a lot of the same character traits. Basically imagine Fuyuhiko but with the added cruelty of a wealthy, powerful middle school girl who has never been told she was wrong in her entire life. That's sort of what I imagine for Natsumi, and why I believe Sato when she says that she has been making Mahiru's life a living hell for years.

Even if the perspective here is unreliable, there are a few things about her that get confirmed. When Sato says Natsumi is making Mahiru's life hell and has been doing so for years, Mahiru doesn't disagree. And when Fuyuhiko finds out his sister died his reaction is along the lines of "if she was so easy to kill I would've done it myself" which isn't exactly a ringing endorsement. She sounds like a truly repugnant individual that took glee in tormenting others and relying on her family's name to frighten others into subservience. So I'll say something I know I haven't said about a 15 year old girl before: "She was a truly horrible person and deserved to be murdered."

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The first time I've ever seen Natsumi even get ranked!

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Are you doing an UDG/DR3 topic, or just doing those and then doing a V3 topic?

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Im going to try for sure since there actually seems to be a fairly big DR community here! I cant guarantee it will be as interesting because Im not sure Ill be as excited about the play through/watch through. Not that Im going to try to hate them but Im just less optimistic than I was when I started the topic that theyll be any good. Hopefully Im wrong!

UshiromiyaEva posted...

The first time I've ever seen Natsumi even get ranked!

Natsumi and one other character were the reason I boosted it to 40! There are three here that are pretty insignificant that I just included because I thought it would be weird to have the main cast, Natsumi, and the mysterious person X. But I had strong feelings on those two after playing so I felt like they should be included!

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I'm assuming Mysterious Person X is Jin Kirigiri.

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I will say that the bad half of the DR3 anime has a gimmick to it that is fun to guess. Everyone has a secret something that they have to keep to themselves, and when I did a watchthrough topic for it, I had a legit fun time trying to reason what everyone's was.

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Me and you have a different opinion of which half is the bad half, that's for sure!

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As I say that, I realize I have opened a door I would rather remain closed, so let's just pretend I never said anything.

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Sorry for the delay! I should get this started back up again tomorrow.

(This delay was intentional to fill you with DESPAIR and has nothing to do with me getting sucked into Demons' Souls during my free time)

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Of note, V3 just went on Steam sale for 60% off. I picked it up though naturally some asshole spoiled the ending survivors for me before it was even done downloading.

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V3 is the one game where that spoiler hits the hardest.

Obviously I can't say why.

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Up next: the star of one of my favorite pieces of Danganronpa related artwork

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i hope the art is mikan getting launched into the sun where she belongs

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NeatoAnAccount posted...

i hope the art is mikan getting launched into the sun where she belongs

yes this

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#36: Hifumi Yamada
Main Cast (Male) Ranking: 14/16
Victim Ranking: 11/12
Killer Ranking: 10/11
Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Fanfic Creator
Actual Ultimate Ability: Ultimate Lumpy Virgin

Ive seen a lot of Danganronpa ranking lists lately, and I feel like this is my least controversial opinion. I have not seen one list that has Hifumi high on it, and that is because Hifumi sucks. He is one of the most consistently annoying characters in either game, and if evil scientists had experimented for years to try and come up with some way to make people hate Danganronpa, Im not sure they couldve done a better job than Hifumi. There are a couple of segments with Hifumi that I dont completely hate, but for the most part Hifumi is this unfortunate combination of pointless and annoying and he doesnt really add anything to the game other than being a gross pervert.

I really struggle with just about every scene that has Hifumi in it, because I simply do not care about what Hifumi has to say, ever. Its rough, because no matter what you are talking about, he finds a way to bring it back to his own stupid shit. You ever have a friend that clearly just wants to tell you a story and theyre like oh speaking of pants here is this one time I rode a motorcycle and I was wearing pants at the time no I wasnt just trying to have any excuse for a segue. Every single thing that gets brought up inevitably is somehow brought back to his love of 2D female characters or fanfiction or Princess Piggy or taking first place in competitive getting people to hate you competitions. He literally will not shut up about how much he loves 2D. There are parts where you are in a trial, fighting for your lives, mourning over the death of one of your friends, and Hifumis addition is like ANIME TITTIES. Having Hifumi around is essentially no different than carrying around an alarm that periodically lets you know it has never had sex before. Like everything minutes the alarm goes IM A VIRGIN or every thirty minutes Hifumi goes I AM ONLY ATTRACTED TO 2-D!!! and it basically accomplishes the same goal here.

His character design is also just kind of gross. It was almost certainly intentionally so, but intentionally gross is still gross and I think of all the characters in either game, I like his design the least. He looks like a lumpy garbage back that someone stuck two toothpicks on. Like an evil wizard brought a bean bag chair to life and cursed it to never have sex. I remember seeing his character design and just thinking oh this guy isnt making it through the game. Not just because everyone was going to want to kill him, but because I didnt think his heart could take it. Hed be the only character in Danganronpa to die of natural causes. A huge sticking point in Chapter 3 of the first game is the fact that Hifumi is so fat that it shouldve been impossible for anyone to move him and honestly if you die and your friends first thought is who had access to the industrial strength equipment necessary to move the corpse? then they probably have already been planning for your funeral for some time. It is like the developers wanted to make the fanfic character look as gross and unlikeable as possible. Which, like, sure, but at the same time I feel like that is unnecessarily mean.

But thats not even really what Im getting at when Im talking about how little I like the actual artistic design of the character. His face is justdumb. Like he has this big dumb ugly face and I hate looking at it. He has this weird cat or walrus design in the face area and at times he only looks vaguely sort of human. His pose where he is turned to the side and his tie is flying up in the air has to be my least favorite character animation in either game. And then his horny face animation is almost just as bad. Him drooling and sweating is not really an image I ever wanted to see. I just sort of hate most of his animation. His standard animation isnt terrible if they were just going for a stereotypical geek/nerd, but I feel like they didnt put as much thought into animating him as they did some of the others. Like, they just wanted to make him look as bad as possible, and by that metric I guess they succeeded.

Also, and this has nothing to do with his ranking, but literally until I was writing this I thought he was the Ultimate Fanfic Author. Like, as in he wrote fanfic. Apparently in the Japanese version he was the Super High School Level Fanzine Artist, which is something totally different. It is weird that they changed this, because I dont think Fanfic Creator really means quite the same thing. Like I literally just finished watching a walkthrough for the game and thought the same thing. I dont think the game quite details exactly what the hell it is Hifumi does unless I was just trying my best to ignore him, which is strange because everyone elses talent is laid out with extreme clarity. It almost feels like they didnt care enough about Hifumi to detail his backstory all the way through, and if thats the case, hey I get it. Knowing that he draws fanfic rather than writes fanfic doesnt change my opinion of him at all, other than making his obsession with loudly yelling out about how he is only attracted to 2D women all the creepier because it makes it sound like he now draws things he masturbates to.

It is also unfortunate that at the points where Hifumi actually does have sort of meaningful impact on the story, it is almost consistently awful. His weird fight with Taka over Alter Ego is dumb for several reasons, but it is especially dumb from Hifumis perspective. This is the one thing that they thing can save them, the dying act of Chihiro that might actually help them escape, and he jeopardizes the whole thing by being obsessed with a computer program with a face. At least for Taka it makes sense. Take uses Alter Ego to see the face of his dead friend and try in some desperate fashion to have some sort of connection with this person that died in front of his eyes like a day ago. Hifumi uses it because 2D girls make his nether regions feel funny and he cant reach them himself without some sort of broom handle. Hifumi is so pathetic he is willing to risk everything so he talk to an AI about anime. He comes off as even more annoying than usual, and I have never wanted to punch a video game character more than when he squels like a pig when Kyoko is yelling at him.

Hes also a moron and might legit be the dumbest killer in either game. He is so easily manipulated by Celeste to do something that doesnt really make sense. I at least can kind of see why he thinks hes doing the right thing, and lashing out at Taka because he thinks he stole Alter Ego and also abused Celeste and was threatening her is a bit more noble than some of the other motivations in the game. But his stupid obsession with Alter Ego blinds him to the fact that Celeste is very clearly manipulating him, and this whole thing couldve been cleared up by the crazy idea of talking to literally any one else. I do love that his stupidity and obsession with being the ultimate dweeb winds up sinking Celeste because of how he insisted on making this bizarre stupid robot costume no one but him wouldve made and he makes like twenty different mistakes in carrying out the plan. It would be like if you got partnered with someone for a science assignment and your partner ate the paper and doused the lab in gasoline. Him killing Taka also straight up sucks because I feel like Taka hadnt finished his character arc yet and it just kinda got cut short because Hifumi is a big dumb fat jerk.

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I will say, before closing this very gross and lumpy chapter of Danganronpa character rankings, that Hifumi manages to rank above everyone else listed so far because there are a couple of things I dont completely hate about him. Like I said, he long overstayed his welcome but if he was a chapter one victim then maybe his weird nerdy outbursts wouldnt have been as grating. And, more importantly, the first time I played chapter 3 and got to that image with him being assaulted by Voltron, I did literally laugh out loud. It is just such a weird, unexpected picture and the comedic timing of it is great because of how Celeste is building it up to you. So to see Hifumi struggling against Optimus Prime with this panicked look on his face was so fucking weird that I did audibly laugh. And then, when watching the playthrough of the first game, I laughed again. So he has one shining moment in his entire miserable existence, and thats at least worth something. Of course, it is part of perhaps the stupidest plot in Danganronpa history and ultimately leads to his death, so maybe I dont want to give him too much credit on that one.

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I've never been surer that any character in any of these mystery games would die than I was with Hifumi. I was absolutely shocked at how long he lived.

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Hifumi is a character I feel like everyone subconciously forgets even existed sometimes.

Like, Teruteru is gross too, but you acknowledge him, he had an impact.

Hifumi...who?

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Teruteru at least had the decency to die early. Like Anagram said, I was shocked Hifumi made it as long as he did. When I did my playthrough topic he was ranked dead last at the start of every chapter he was in just because I was sure they didn't have anything else for him to do or say. Outside of his weird fight with Taka in chapter 2, all he did was yell about how 2D made him horny.

Oh and when I rewatched his free time events, he also takes the prize for "most boring set of free time events" in either game. He has one that is literally dedicated to how much he wants Diet Coke.

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Coming up next: an impossibly stupid character who does something impossibly stupid

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that describes too many characters tbqh

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