Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1364

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Welp, joke's on me for underestimating our voterbase, I suppose.

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I never imagined watching the most hyped game of the year struggling to beat Fall Guys.

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Well I guess it could still win the PC poll

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Thought Hades would do a bit better...

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8317-got-playstation-5
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8318-got-xbox-series-s-or-x

The vast majority of this site doesn't own next-gen consoles yet, and we're not big on PC gaming either. The main way our userbase experienced Cyberpunk was on the PS4/Xbone and those versions are flat-out broken.

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I think:

Final Fantasy VII Remake
Animal Crossing: New Horizons
Ghost of Tsushima
The Last of Us Part II
Hades
Spider-Man: Miles Morales
Cyberpunk 2077
Ori and the Will of the Wisps
Yakuza: Like a Dragon
Resident Evil 3

The two I am fairly unclear on are Miles Morales and Ori. I am feeling pretty good about GoT being fairly strong, and you all underestimated Hades. The thing is GameFAQs users are pretty keyed in to how games are received usually, so even in cases of low playrate well received games can do better than a more well known one.

Hence RE3 at the bottom!

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Hah, Cyberpunk losing to Hades makes me laugh.

Hades is great, y'all.

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There is no way Miles Morales (a glorified expansion) beats DOOM Eternal.

Spoilers. Here is how GotY 2020 is gonna play out

01. Final Fantasy VII Remake
02. Animal Crossing: New Horizons
03. The Last of Us Part II
04. Ghost of Tsushima
05. Hades
06. Cyberpunk 2077
07. DOOM Eternal
08. Yakuza: Like a Dragon
09. Spider-Man: Miles Morales
10. Resident Evil 3

Demon's Souls will probably be #3 if it is included but it shouldn't be because if it is Xenoblade Definitive Edition should be in it as well and that can give Animal Crossing a run for its money.

Hades and the Yakuza game are the only games of the list I haven't heard of.

Let's see how Genshin Impact does.

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Well thats the tricky thing about Miles Morales, will it get treated as an expansion or not? It is effectively an expansion, but got treated like a full game by the marketing push.

I think Hades will only build strength from here and potentially be the strongest indie in a couple of years. That game is a big deal.

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Hmm...So are we not doing GOTY by system this year? Allen has done this before, but it's rare.

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I don't know if we'll be getting system GotY polls this year. Considering the PS5 and Xbox Series X/S recently came out and with both facing huge shortages with most people unable to get one, maybe Allen thought it wasn't the right time to run system GotY polls for those 2 systems.
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PS4 and PS5 could have been combined this year if that was an issue. Same with the Xbox systems. But, I guess he decided to just do away with the system splits.
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Honestly, when most games are multiplatform except Nintendo exclusives, I never really saw the point of doing polls by system.

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Finally got around to updating my game system ownership spreadsheet, which you can find here:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1iMtyUuzmT5ggmYy-xbiGf7fcloXuhkQuu4ZIC2nGI4M/pub

PS5 and Xbox Series X/S had very little increase in ownership from their launch day results. They are getting off to an even slower start than the PS4 and Xbox One. For comparison purposes:

PS4 - 8.48% on 11/15/2013, 16.66% on 12/28/2013
PS5 - 8.18% on 11/12/2020, 11.62% on 12/26/2020

Xbox One - 4.50% on 11/22/2013, 7.47% on 12/29/2013
Xbox Series X/S - 6.01% on 11/10/2020, 7.54% on 12/27/2020

PS5 is already about 5% behind the PS4 at a similar point in time. Meanwhile, the Xbox Series X/S is similarly struggling to gain ownership following a better than expected launch day result. Even the extremely hated Xbox One gained more ownership from launch day to the end of 2013 than the Xbox Series X/S did in a similar time period.

It seems like the effect of the scalpers is extremely strong for this generation's new consoles than they were for the PS4 and Xbox One. It is the best explanation for the 2 new consoles getting off to such a slow start, and then you throw in a global pandemic on top of that which has hurt economies around the world and resulted in mass job losses.

Switch also increased its ownership to an all-time high of 69.07%, surpassing the original Wii's all-time high of 69.03%.

Coming up in the near future - A current look at the status of our vote totals with 2020's polls officially locked in.
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I guess tomorrow will be the Best Remake poll. I wonder if we'll have an overall poll or will SBAllen just go straight to the final of Ghost of Tsushima vs. Animal Crossing: New Horizons vs. Final Fantasy VII Remake. GoT and ACNH won by enough that doing an overall poll might be redundant.

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Damn it man I didn't expected Yakuza 7 to be 2nd! Seriously! And if AC wasn't that popular it would have won! People here really like JRPG's.

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charmander6000 posted...

I guess tomorrow will be the Best Remake poll. I wonder if we'll have an overall poll or will SBAllen just go straight to the final of Ghost of Tsushima vs. Animal Crossing: New Horizons vs. Final Fantasy VII Remake. GoT and ACNH won by enough that doing an overall poll might be redundant.

There will be an indie poll Im sure, and probably others. Like a mobile poll with Genshin Impact in it maybe.

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Paper Mario was robbed!

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by Nintendo, yes.

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I've been fiddling with the 2015 games x-stats on lol x-stats and they look like they've been adjusted very well, with only a few cases that stuck out to me as blatantly wrong. Granted a lot of the 2010s games are going to be a lot different strength-wise next time we see them but still.

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Lol TLOU2 major flop.

Can't even best a niche jrpg like Yakuza.

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TLoUII probably wins straight up for that very reason though. Probably.

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Depends on how hard it would get antivoted here

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Lightning Strikes posted...

TLoUII probably wins straight up for that very reason though. Probably.

Game is clearly a mixed bag. Considering how popular the first was this is an embarrassing showing.

Expect this game to be fodder in future contests.

Yakuza dragon is the better game so no surprise.

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ctesjbuvf posted...

Depends on how hard it would get antivoted here

Quite a bit. Cyberpunk got antivoted to hell. Would be funny to see a tlou and cyberpunk.

Ff7 remake is absolutely cleaning the goty this year. Wont even be close.

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Not voting isnt the same as antivoting. Neither game has been antivoted because they are ten option polls. A game with a dedicated fanbase like Yakuza obviously benefits more from a ten option poll than a more mainstream game. We wont know how TLOUII would do with fewer options for a long time.

Either way its crazy the effect the leak had. That could be something that has an effect on other games in the future.

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Yeah, we understand from past experience that multiway polls aren't the same as 1-on-1 because you can't anti-vote, and GOTY results don't necessarily translate to contest results.

Regardless, TLOU2 would be a low midcarder at best, I think.

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More importantly what year does 2020 beat? Looks like not too many!

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https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/8002-division-6-round-2-animal-crossing-new-leaf-vs-red-dead

Does New Horizons beat RDR2?
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FFVIIR time

let's do this

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I thought I was gonna vote for FFVIIR, but then I voted for PMD's remake because I forgot it came out until I saw the poll and I pitied it.

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Persona 5 R is neither a remake or remaster.

Why does Allen feel the need to shoehorn p5 in for some reason? It's a definitive edition of a 2017 game.

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PrinceOfKoopas posted...

I thought I was gonna vote for FFVIIR, but then I voted for PMD's remake because I forgot it came out until I saw the poll and I pitied it.

I voted for Tony Hawks. P5R is my fav game on that list but it shouldn't even be on there.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Persona 5 R is neither a remake or remaster.

Why does Allen feel the need to shoehorn p5 in for some reason? It's a definitive edition of a 2017 game.

It doesn't really fit under any other category.

I guess we could start a "Definitive Edition" category and pit it against the PS4 version of DQXI.

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Xenoblade got robbed.
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LeonhartFour posted...

It doesn't really fit under any other category.

I guess we could start a "Definitive Edition" category and pit it against the PS4 version of DQXI.

I was hoping they do platform specific games. Would be hilarious to see games like yakuza 0 and dqxi on an Xbox list. Games are based on Metacritic right? Well those are some of the highest rated on xbox.

Also new games only. Leave old games into the past

Literally having mario 3d collection in a goty poll. Wtf is up with that. Ff7 is new remake. Like re2. So they can count.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

Xenoblade got robbed.

I don't think Allen knows what a remake or remaster is. Xenoblade is the very definition of a remake/remaster.

Crazy.

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no GOTY 2020 for Xenoblade

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Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity's been robbed.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

I don't think Allen knows what a remake or remaster is. Xenoblade is the very definition of a remake/remaster.

but it calls itself the definitive edition

maybe Allen did make a Definitive Edition category

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LeonhartFour posted...

but it calls itself the definitive edition

maybe Allen did make a Definitive Edition category

Yeah but it's a remaster and a remake bit like ocarina of time . Has updated visuals and remake textures.

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the Final Fantasy VII rise to heaven is back

it's glorious to behold

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WarThaNemesis2 posted...

Hyrule Warriors Age of Calamity's been robbed.

Game is mediocre and runs like trash.

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LeonhartFour posted...

the Final Fantasy VII rise to heaven is back

it's glorious to behold

Eh. If persona 5 came out this year as a new game. Its beating ff7r. This isn't a great performance.

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Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2 > Super Mario 64

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Eh. If persona 5 came out this year as a new game. Its beating ff7r. This isn't a great performance.

it's only going to keep going up

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damn mario takes the lead from tony hawk

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FFVII trends are back baby

beautiful

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Where the fuck is Xenoblade DE if Persona 5 Royal was allowed in? Seriously what is this?

Typical of Allen to exclude obvious entrants for absolutely no reason (Kingdom Hearts III in 2019) and make contest ruining decisions like the 2 games per series rule which in turn let a 100 fodder indie games in GotD2.

I'm scratching my head at this format as well. The system by system poll works much better for our GotY polls.