Current Events > Biden wants nationwide OUTDOOR mask mandate for 3 months minimum

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Solid Snake07 posted...

I'm not agaisnt masks. But I'm not going to wear a mask to go for a run by myself. That's asanine

According to like 80% of folks in this thread that makes you selfish and ignorant, even though it makes perfect sense not to wear a mask at all outside and just socially distance yourself from folks.

I just saw a post on fb that was talking about how restaurants are forcing people to wear masks until they get seated, then they can take the masks off... According to these folks that is an extremely wise and intelligent thing to do and they will chastise you if you don't agree with them by calling you the P word because they are foolish enough to conform to that kind of ridiculous behavior.

Just for the record, I agree with wearing masks indoors, but where do we draw the line? Do I have to wear a mask outside when the nearest person is a block away on average? Am I really a selfish douche for only wanting to play this game up to a certain point? Should I wear masks in my own house too? While showering? Should I leave it on when I go to sleep? It's fine the way it is right now.

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lincoln002 posted...

I just saw a post on fb that was talking about how restaurants are forcing people to wear masks until they get seated, then they can take the masks off... According to these folks that is an extremely wise and intelligent thing to do and they will chastise you if you don't agree with them by calling you the P word because they are foolish enough to conform to that kind of ridiculous behavior.

Are

Are you arguing that its stupid to wear a mask when youre walking through a literal dining hall where you will have to undoubtedly walk by strangers
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MyTummyHurt posted...

Are

Are you arguing that its stupid to wear a mask when youre walking through a literal dining hall where you will have to undoubtedly walk by strangers

Wearing a mask for 30 seconds just to take it off after you sit down while you are surrounded by strangers is really stupid.

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lincoln002 posted...

Wearing a mask for 30 seconds just to take it off after you sit down while you are surrounded by strangers is really stupid.

No it isn't. You're surrounded by people, so those 30 seconds could help save someone's life.

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lincoln002 posted...

Wearing a mask for 30 seconds just to take it off after you sit down while you are surrounded by strangers is really stupid.

It most certainly is not because by the time youre seated you are much less likely to be exposed to the mucus droplets of said strangers if youre properly spaced
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OK, I'm done. This is by far the dumbest conversation ever. You guys are unable to make the distinction between being "extra" and using "common sense". I'll wear my mask while I sleep tonight so I don't infect anyone in Bolivia

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The Constitution mandates the federal government's responsibility for public health in, literally, the very first sentence.

Granted, it's a run-on sentence, but still.

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lincoln002 posted...

OK, I'm done. This is by far the dumbest conversation ever. You guys are unable to make the distinction between being "extra" and using "common sense". I'll wear my mask while I sleep tonight so I don't infect anyone in Bolivia

Yeah, courtesy of your drivel.

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HerbSaunders posted...

Literally someone with that username talking down to someone.

Same goes to you.
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I have asthma and can cycle with a mask no problem

That's nice, but it doesn't matter. The federal government can't enforce such mandates.

Would be nice if people wore masks outdoors in crowded places. I've seen huge crowds of people at beaches and parks with maybe 10% of people wearing masks.

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lincoln002 posted...

OK, I'm done. This is by far the dumbest conversation ever. You guys are unable to make the distinction between being "extra" and using "common sense". I'll wear my mask while I sleep tonight so I don't infect anyone in Bolivia

Bro I cant help it you cant grasp the difference between shared space huddled on strangers and shared space with people that stay around each other

And for the record I dont think that shit should be open at all, but whats in place is about the best that can be done
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In New Jersey, we have been using masks a lot since March and after the big outbreak at first, our numbers have gone really down.

some states like Georgia and Florida really need a mask policy as their numbers have gone way up

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Ludwig Von 2 posted...

When its not clear, of course people are gonna assume the worst. This shit is gonna fuck up his campaign, what the fuck was he thinking? I swear, every time the democrats get close to winning, they just shoot themselves in the fucking foot.

The people that would be criticizing Biden for this statement are the same people that take offense to masks in the first place.

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90% sure that the president doesn't have the power to do that.

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Saying that we have to wear masks to go into the store for the next three months is fine. Saying I need to wear a mask to mow my fucking lawn is another issue altogether.

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shockthemonkey posted...

The fact that people are taking this to mean every second youre outdoors rather than when youre around people outside your home seems pretty weird tbh

Gotta make up something to bitch about or their lives would have no purpose

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CruelBuffalo posted...

cuz im not a little baby

Lol

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I live in Japan and I bike to and from work every day for 30 minutes each way and wear a mask. And nothing requires me or anyone else to. We wear masks because we think about people other than ourselves and it's incredibly easy to do and doesn't make it harder to breath.

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ssjevot posted...

I live in Japan and I bike to and from work every day for 30 minutes each way and wear a mask. And nothing requires me or anyone else to. We wear masks because we think about people other than ourselves and it's incredibly easy to do and doesn't make it harder to breath.

Yeah, that's an advantage of being in a collectivist society, as opposed to the individualist one that the US is.

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So who is going to enforce this nationwide mandate when there are violations?

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ssjevot posted...

I live in Japan and I bike to and from work every day for 30 minutes each way and wear a mask. And nothing requires me or anyone else to. We wear masks because we think about people other than ourselves and it's incredibly easy to do and doesn't make it harder to breath.

Japan is seeing a pretty big spike in COVID cases right now

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SwordMaster13X posted...

In New Jersey, we have been using masks a lot since March and after the big outbreak at first, our numbers have gone really down.

some states like Georgia and Florida really need a mask policy as their numbers have gone way up

5 Days ago, in New Jersey
https://www.nj.com/coronavirus/2020/08/packed-mask-free-lines-outside-jersey-shore-bars-are-the-scary-coronavirus-party-no-one-needs.html

But Murphy expressed concerns that efforts to slow the spread of the virus that causes COVID-19 are threatened by the big crowds of maskless young people seen waiting to get into Jersey Shore bars over the weekend. "This virus could have easily spread, just standing in line," he said.
"Standing around maskless outside a bar is just as big a knucklehead move as standing around maskless inside one," Murphy said. He warned that a failure to comply would force action.
"If we have to shut places down to protect public health we will," he said.
Murphy also addressed a "pop-up" pool party that drew more than 300 to a Howell home on Sunday. Law enforcement officers from eight agencies joined in the effort to disperse the partygoers, but the party was just another in a string of such parties, including one that drew more than 700 people in Jackson and one in Brick that drew more than 400.

Unknown361 posted...

Are Americans like this user this ignorant?

Are foreigners like this user this ignorant where they think its ok to be within 6 feet just because they have a mask on

AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Japan is seeing a pretty big spike in COVID cases right now

Japan has about 1/3 the population of the US, but only about 1000 deaths from COVID. The US has 170,000 deaths and counting. A spike in Japan is equivalent to the best day ever in America.

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AngelsNAirwav3s posted...

Japan is seeing a pretty big spike in COVID cases right now

And does it have anything to do with masks or is it about other behavior?

Im not doing it in mine or my families yards obviously. But if it helps everyone in the long run, I'll do it everywhere else. Im not one to whine and bitch about doing whatever's necessary to up our chances. Anything short of never seeing some my family members. But I was getting prepared to do that too until school was announced closed.

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In a busy area I understand but just going for a walk. I don't see why.

LastTomorrow posted...

Well, Trump will win again

Karen's were voting for Trump anyway.

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Dunno why wearing a mask is such a big issue at this point. I've gone running with a relatively not breathable cloth mask just fine. Just take care of your fellow man n do it.

If the past few months are any indication, most police wont enforce past a warning. And only the police are on the front lines.

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R_Jackal posted...

Dunno why wearing a mask is such a big issue at this point. I've gone running with a relatively not breathable cloth mask just fine. Just take care of your fellow man n do it.

Unless you're doing it through an incredibly crowded area, it accomplishes nothing (other than making you feel better and that you think you're saving lives doing this) and makes your run more uncomfortable.

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I wear a mask during a heatwave, while working physical labor and I breath fine. If you have a medical condition then its understandable, other than that, wear the fucking mask, stop complaining and this shit will go away by Christmas time.

Ivany2008 posted...

I wear a mask during a heatwave, while working physical labor and I breath fine. If you have a medical condition then its understandable, other than that, wear the fucking mask, stop complaining and this shit will go away by Christmas time.

I think you really need to do some research on this. The experts are saying that the virus spread outdoors when you're not in a crowd is negligible. Wearing a mask when you're running outside, outside and can easily go around people to avoid them is not going to contribute to the virus spread going down at all. It's just going to restrict your breathing and you'll have a sopping wet mask on for a period of time (which they say not to do by the way).

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ChrisTaka posted...

but muh freedom

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I can agree with that. I'm more or less referring to the day to day. Shopping/errands and the like. And I wasn't referring to you specifically, just the topic in general :).

Really doesn't feel necessary to do if you're not outside in a crowded area and are actually making any sort of attempt to respect social distancing.

Such mandates are pointless anyway if they can't be enforced. Where I am masks are supposed to be mandatory in all public buildings, but I still see tons of people who don't bother, and nothing ever happens to them.

REMercsChamp posted...

It's just going to restrict your breathing

It doesn't though. There are no shortage of videos showing people running/biking etc. with a mask while measuring oxygen and it doesn't drop below normal levels.

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ssjevot posted...

It doesn't though. There are no shortage of videos showing people running/biking etc. with a mask while measuring oxygen and it doesn't drop below normal levels.

K. Do what you want man. I play sports hard included tennis and running and can't imagine wearing a mask that's fucking drenched on my face for that period of time while accomplishing fuck all while I'm at it.

Like I said, I live in a place where we've absolutely killed covid. Cases dropping like flies, empty hospitals, things reopen. It was never a norm here to wear masks outdoors and I haven't seen anyone wearing one outdoors while exercising.

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Masks do make it harder for me to breathe, especially in hot conditions.

It's not going to make me not wear them in public indoor spaces or anything (believe it or not, I actually do want to make a reasonable effort to not kill anyone), but I'm also not exactly going to admit "oh ok, I guess it doesn't impact my breathing after all" just because there's been online videos of people who don't encounter the same issue. People are, surprisingly, different. I'm pretty sure I know how my own breathing is affected better than some strangers on the internet do.

I can understand wearing one INDOORS in places like stores. But outside? No way. Not unless I'm in a crowded outdoor venue.

@Solid Snake07 posted...

Just because some people are idiots isn't an excuse to be equally as stupid in opposition

Yes. Thats literally what mitigating risk is.

Maybe just dont talk about subjects you dont understand or something.

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Outside? No way. Biden is a tyrant.
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LastTomorrow posted...

Well, Trump will win again

Pretty much this. Doesn't really matter what Biden wants.

I would literally bet tens of thousands on Trump winning re-election at this point. Yeah, he's a cringy president that tweets a bunch of dumb shit, but Biden/Harris are much, MUCH weaker than Hillary as opponents.

It's almost unbelievable that they found a candidate that is even worse at interviewing/debating than Trump, but they did.

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Zeeak4444 posted...

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Yes. Thats literally what mitigating risk is.

Maybe just dont talk about subjects you dont understand or something.

So lets just make everyone stay indoors and get fat and unhealthy?

Just have the government deliver our rations an throw anyone who leaves their house in a quarantine gulag

I'm fully aware of what I'm talking about. You don't need a mask if you're outside unless you're in a crowd of people, which you should be avoiding regardless of whether or not you have a mask on.

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sktgamer_13dude posted...

Same goes to you.

Go eat your Totinos pizza rolls and wash it down with a Caprisun little boy, the adults are talking.

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Frankly I think a mandatory 3-5 month lockdown with a mask mandate in your own home is the way to go.

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friendbuddypal posted...

Frankly I think a mandatory 3-5 month lockdown with a mask mandate in your own home is the way to go.

Shut the fuck up, Hypno.
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why would anyone take advice from biden?

ssjevot posted...

I live in Japan and I bike to and from work every day for 30 minutes each way and wear a mask. And nothing requires me or anyone else to. We wear masks because we think about people other than ourselves and it's incredibly easy to do and doesn't make it harder to breath.

You also(likely) live in a densely populated area. I literally never encounter people on my 2 hour bike rides. In the event I do, I'll just hold my breath for the single second that I might be within 6 feet of a person.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

So lets just make everyone stay indoors and get fat and unhealthy?

No one has said that.

Just have the government deliver our rations an throw anyone who leaves their house in a quarantine gulag

No one has said that.

I'm fully aware of what I'm talking about. You don't need a mask if you're outside unless you're in a crowd of people, which you should be avoiding regardless of whether or not you have a mask on.

And that's what people are advocating here. If you're walking down the street and there are people walking by, you should be wearing a mask. If you're outside and on your own or with your family/friends only, no need to wear the mask.