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v_charon
07/15/20 10:14:37 PM
#53:


The problem with his theory is that for some reason he believes the lockdowns are targeted at the fans of NCAAF for some reason. Like I can't grasp what he believes there is to gain there since most people who like college football also like some other sport(s) as well.

The majority of college football athletes are young black men so I'm not sure how he wants to spin the narrative since, in theory, the only people "hurt" by the lockdown are those black men. Not these "southern conservatives".
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Metal_DK
07/15/20 10:20:35 PM
#54:


He's most likely wrong about it being some big conspiracy or something, but I dont think you realize how much money is in boosters of college football, and I'm sure those are almost all republican types. I'd think their power would be stripped somewhat if there was no football. To say the only people hurt by the lockdown would be the athletes that are mostly black is kinda near sighted. There is a LOT of money in college football, and the main recepiants of it are far from the players. The players obviously lose their chance to showcase their talents for a chance for a big payday by being a first round pick, but thats far from the only people who lose by this.

For the record, we shouldnt be playing sports at all right now tbh (especially team sports and high contact sports like MMA), and i doubt it gets better by early Sept.

https://www.motherjones.com/environment/2014/09/college-football-boosters-top-25/

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v_charon
07/15/20 11:17:40 PM
#55:


I mean most owners and CEOs and the like from most major sports are going to be Republican types. That's not an exclusive thing to college football.
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Metal_DK
07/15/20 11:20:01 PM
#56:


true, but if there is a sport with a ol boys network, its college football

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v_charon
07/15/20 11:23:54 PM
#57:


I think that's NASCAR and they're open for business without the boogeyman forcing them closed.
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ShatteredElysium
07/15/20 11:41:58 PM
#58:


Here's the fisherman story I mentioned earlier. Had a 2 week quarantine before leaving. All tested negative. 35 days later virtually everyone on the boat tested positive despite essentially being a bubble

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-argentina-fishermen-trawler-ushuaia-covid19-echizen-maru-a9621716.html

I assume something on the boat had to be contaminated from the get go
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Leafeon13N
07/15/20 11:53:58 PM
#59:


One could have picked up the virus in the hotel for quarantine or boarding the boat.

We know the virus persisting in a person for a month is not unheard of.
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pepper2012
07/16/20 12:00:32 AM
#60:


https://twitter.com/ap/status/1283587664290222081?s=21

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Seanchan
07/16/20 6:44:23 AM
#61:


I know, it's CNN. Still, this is pretty funny:

https://twitter.com/TheAPJournalist/status/1283573607067791361

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SeabassDebeste
07/16/20 7:14:03 AM
#62:


ShatteredElysium posted...
Here's the fisherman story I mentioned earlier. Had a 2 week quarantine before leaving. All tested negative. 35 days later virtually everyone on the boat tested positive despite essentially being a bubble

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/coronavirus-argentina-fishermen-trawler-ushuaia-covid19-echizen-maru-a9621716.html

I assume something on the boat had to be contaminated from the get go

scary!

that said, as far as i can tell, covid tests still have a high false negative rate. like 20% high.
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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 8:05:22 AM
#63:


pepper2012 posted...
https://twitter.com/ap/status/1283587664290222081?s=21

I'd like you to give me an exact date at which you think Georgia's deaths per million will pass New York's. I'll bet you any amount of your choosing up to $1000 that you're wrong and it happens later/never.

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v_charon
07/16/20 8:10:10 AM
#64:


Brian Kemp is a national disgrace and should have resigned months ago.
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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 8:11:07 AM
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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 8:20:22 AM
#66:


Also my offer to bet is open to everyone here, not just pepper. You can also substitute Florida, Texas, or South Dakota if you'd like.

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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 9:57:22 AM
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Corrik7
07/16/20 11:19:04 AM
#69:


https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/16/politics/russia-cyberattack-covid-vaccine-research/index.html

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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 11:24:47 AM
#70:


Im going to get tested in like three hours

ive been a bit sick the past couple days. At first I thought it definitely wasnt covid because it was just like nasal stuff an fatigue, but now it feels like im having some difficulty breathing (and also diarrhea which is a bummer.) so ive become increasingly concerned that I have the virus.

but also like a month ago I was sure my appendix was going to burst and it ended up being a bladder thing so what do I know
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RaidenGarai
07/16/20 11:36:53 AM
#71:


MoogleKupo141 posted...
Im going to get tested in like three hours

ive been a bit sick the past couple days. At first I thought it definitely wasnt covid because it was just like nasal stuff an fatigue, but now it feels like im having some difficulty breathing (and also diarrhea which is a bummer.) so ive become increasingly concerned that I have the virus.

but also like a month ago I was sure my appendix was going to burst and it ended up being a bladder thing so what do I know
Good luck, and hope the result comes back negative

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v_charon
07/16/20 12:00:00 PM
#72:


UltimaterializerX posted...

Good. Some common sense.


Except not really since Florida's massive outbreak is very recent and we've not yet to see the worst of their deaths per day rate. Any straws you guys can grasp at I guess.

Maybe if you get some Goya beans and pose it'll make everything better.
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Leafeon13N
07/16/20 12:10:54 PM
#74:


Ulti people get paid to troll the nonsense you spew, why you do it for free i have no idea.
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v_charon
07/16/20 12:14:39 PM
#75:


The last right wing nut that was on board 8 got outed; he probably has a skeleton or fifty he wouldn't want discovered.

UltimaterializerX posted...
The average age of the second outbreak is 31, which is why the death numbers are so low.


Oh yeah? Well that's great news. Good thing people 31 and under can't spread the disease to older people. That might be a problem if this virus was easily spread by unwashed swine who won't wear masks.
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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 12:24:59 PM
#78:


he average age of the second outbreak is 31, which is why the death numbers are so low. Young people tolerate corona remarkably well, and with very young people (13 and under) there's been under 30 deaths. You're more likely to die from peanuts or a bee than corona if you're under 13.


why are you bringing this up as if its news or relevant

the masks arent about keeping kids under 13 from dying, theyre about keeping those kids (and everyone else) from giving the virus to people its actually dangerous for

ulti, I know you dont read articles, but do you also not watch videos you post? Fauci says the masks are important for someone whos infected to prevent them from infecting someone else. thats all the people who want everyone to wear masks have ever said! Its literally a point against your argument.

he said we shouldnt all be wearing masks now, but the now hes referring to was months ago. Circumstances have changed.
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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 12:27:19 PM
#79:


UltimaterializerX posted...

The video I linked to is literally Dr. Fauci on 60 Minutes telling people that healthy folks don't need masks, lmao


no one disputes this, the problem is its basically impossible to tell if youre a healthy person because people can have the virus and be asymptomatic

he also tells us that its important for infected people to wear masks

so everyone should wear masks just in case they have the virus but arent showing symptoms
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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 12:31:45 PM
#80:


the fauci video is from March 8th before stuff even closed down

come on man
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Seanchan
07/16/20 12:33:57 PM
#81:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The video I linked to is literally Dr. Fauci on 60 Minutes telling people that healthy folks don't need masks, lmao

Isn't that video from March?

What has he said recently?

He's a man of science. He's okay with revising his opinion when new data emerges AND even admitting he was wrong.

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Metal_DK
07/16/20 12:34:03 PM
#82:


UltimaterializerX posted...
The video I linked to is literally Dr. Fauci on 60 Minutes telling people that healthy folks don't need masks, lmao

As more data was released, everyone changed their tune on masks.

You do realize for a virus that is brand new to the world the knowledge will change right?

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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 12:40:58 PM
#84:


UltimaterializerX posted...


For the 100th time.

COVID-19 is a BSL4 virus. Unless your mask is an M95, N95, or viral respirator, you are not preventing the spread of corona. I literally have mice in my lab at work with live corona in them for testing. I'm not just making things up here.

Now what I do support is social distancing, being clean, sanitizing surfaces, and all that jazz. That stuff absolutely works.


on one hand, the guy in the video you posted who is very respected and important and a doctor says its important for infected people to wear masks

on the other hand, you are near rats and have a history of not reading well

I dunno what to believe
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RaidenGarai
07/16/20 12:41:09 PM
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v_charon
07/16/20 12:42:23 PM
#86:


Close up shop boys, Professor Ulti's here now. HE is the authority here, not some hack like Fauci or the thousands of other experts out there.
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VintageGin
07/16/20 12:53:05 PM
#87:


Posting this again because Ulti ignored it the last time he started saying this shit

The point of cloth masks is to reduce the velocity of droplets (specifically larger droplets) so that exposure is minimized and people don't receive a significant viral load as commonly as they otherwise would.

And no, 6 feet is not a magic barrier, nor is a cloth mask. The point is to mitigate the risk, even though they don't eliminate it entirely. It's not possible for the entire populace to wear N95 masks.

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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 1:02:15 PM
#89:


https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1283768179437850624

Exactly what makes "government provided childcare" any more or less safe than "school?"

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Jakyl25
07/16/20 1:08:06 PM
#90:


SmartMuffin posted...
https://twitter.com/GloriaPazmino/status/1283768179437850624

Exactly what makes "government provided childcare" any more or less safe than "school?"


Itll specifically help the virus target only poorer people instead of everyone
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SmartMuffin
07/16/20 1:09:09 PM
#91:


Imagine believing school is anything more than government-provided childcare in the first place!

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Jakyl25
07/16/20 1:11:16 PM
#92:


SmartMuffin posted...
Imagine believing school is anything more than government-provided childcare in the first place!


Well no, its government-mandated childcare
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charmander6000
07/16/20 2:14:34 PM
#93:


Just want to let everyone know COVID-19 is a BSL3 virus, not BSL4 and really it's only level 3 when you are working with high concentrations of the virus.

If that wasn't the case, a lot of people will be going to jail...

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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 2:20:40 PM
#94:


oh huh

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/lab/lab-biosafety-guidelines.html

Routine diagnostic testing of specimens, such as the following activities, can be handled in a BSL-2 laboratory using Standard Precautions:
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Corrik7
07/16/20 3:02:01 PM
#96:


v_charon posted...
The last right wing nut that was on board 8 got outed; he probably has a skeleton or fifty he wouldn't want discovered.
Can you keep your comments focused on the Coronavirus. We have a politics topic, if that is your jam.

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Corrik7
07/16/20 3:04:50 PM
#97:


Masks work for mitigation if everyone is using them properly. Please stop disputing this, Ulti. It is like vintage said. It is about droplet spread, which carries the virus in it. If you cannot understand this simple truth, you are not going to get any benefit of the doubt on anything you post here.

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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 3:20:01 PM
#98:


Its literally BSL4 where I work.

Holy f*** some of you are thick.


but is that because the virus itself is considered bsl4 or thats just the kind of facility you work in or youre doing some specific form of testing that is more dangerous or something else

because again the thing youre saying contradicts the thing that an official serious source is saying and Im more inclined to think youre confused than that theyre wrong

or maybe im misinterpreting what youre saying?
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charmander6000
07/16/20 3:21:03 PM
#99:


UltimaterializerX posted...
Its literally BSL4 where I work.

Holy f*** some of you are thick.

I mean you could be working on it in a level 4 facility, but that doesn't make the virus a BSL4 virus. For example, if I work with a level 1 pathogen where I work, it doesn't go up in threat-level.

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ShatteredElysium
07/16/20 3:25:37 PM
#100:


The virus is considered BSL-2.

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MoogleKupo141
07/16/20 3:30:33 PM
#101:


the covid test felt so crazy

it was like I had a stick shoved through my nose into my brain twice
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charmander6000
07/16/20 3:38:53 PM
#102:


ShatteredElysium posted...
The virus is considered BSL-2.

Only in specimen samples. If you are trying to grow some, it's currently level 3. Of course, that has to do more with bureaucracy than anything.

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