Poll of the Day > Trump may BAN popular APP because of COMMUNISTS!

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Unbridled9
07/07/20 9:54:33 PM
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https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jul/7/tiktok-ban-floated-donald-trump-administration-ami/

Trump may ban Tiktok because China is very likely stealing the data of its users leading to a massive sexurity concern with the app. What do you think? Should Tiktok be banned?

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ssj4supervegeta
07/07/20 9:55:22 PM
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India already banned it. and good. altho this wont stop security. i want to see it get banned for the lulz.

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Lokarin
07/07/20 9:55:45 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
sexurity

BanTok


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papercup
07/07/20 10:00:14 PM
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Cool! Can we ban Facebook next

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Judgmenl
07/07/20 10:00:52 PM
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TikTok is known to have a CCP backdoor in it. The application shouldn't exist.

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Lokarin
07/07/20 10:01:21 PM
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Judgmenl posted...
TikTok is known to have a CCP backdoor in it. The application shouldn't exist.

It's just cuz the US is jealous they can't get their backdoors in

https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/06/revised_earn_it_act/

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Judgmenl
07/07/20 10:03:35 PM
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Lokarin posted...
It's just cuz the US is jealous they can't get their backdoors in

https://www.theregister.com/2020/07/06/revised_earn_it_act/
Jesus Christ Lok. Can you please learn how we do governence already? Do not post shitty fake journalism.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/3398
https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/senate-bill/4051

I have both Bills Bookmarked and I keep up with their progress. Neither is going to pass, and both are sponsored by a fucking nutcase who exists just to push these Bills.

Also consider for a second that I work in Network Security and I might know what I am talking about.

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Joker_X_II
07/07/20 10:05:44 PM
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All social media should be banned.

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TheWorstPoster
07/07/20 10:06:26 PM
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It's nothing more than spyware, all from an extremely hostile, genocidal political party.
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Zeus
07/07/20 10:43:32 PM
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papercup posted...
Cool! Can we ban Facebook next

And Twitter. But not IG. Never IG.


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DirtBasedSoap
07/07/20 10:51:00 PM
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Honestly I am all for banning TikTok

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xjayguyx
07/07/20 10:54:17 PM
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Ban CNN while your at it please and thank you.
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adjl
07/07/20 10:56:19 PM
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TheWorstPoster posted...
It's nothing more than spyware

It objectively is more than spyware. It allows users to record, edit, and share videos. It is also spyware, and particularly aggressive, invasive spyware at that, but it's clearly more than just that.

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Jen0125
07/07/20 11:11:08 PM
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If they ban tiktok I'll have no way to get cute BTS clips over different music

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WhiskeyDisk
07/08/20 12:19:53 AM
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I don't see a problem here. No app should be able to download and extract a zip file automatically, without the user's express permission on a case by case basis.

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BlackScythe0
07/08/20 12:20:28 AM
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xjayguyx posted...
Ban CNN while your at it please and thank you.
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dragon504
07/08/20 12:32:05 AM
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WhiskeyDisk posted...
I don't see a problem here. No app should be able to download and extract a zip file automatically, without the user's express permission on a case by case basis.

It's seems to be quite the horrifiying app.

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helIy
07/08/20 12:42:51 AM
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ssj4supervegeta posted...
i want to see it get banned for the lulz.


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Zareth
07/08/20 12:43:38 AM
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Jen0125 posted...
If they ban tiktok I'll have no way to get cute BTS clips over different music
Just search for literally any trending topic on Twitter and you'll find some SKSKS STAN BTS

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xjayguyx
07/08/20 12:46:11 AM
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BlackScythe0 posted...
o.0

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Mead
07/08/20 12:54:56 AM
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Lets have the government start banning social media apps they dont like

thatll certainly show that totalitarian government how free we are

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Jen0125
07/08/20 12:54:57 AM
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Zareth posted...
Just search for literally any trending topic on Twitter and you'll find some SKSKS STAN BTS

Tru

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TheWorstPoster
07/08/20 2:10:40 AM
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Mead posted...
Lets have the government start banning social media apps they dont like

thatll certainly show that totalitarian government how free we are

So, it's entirely OK for a dangerous regime that threatens world war at the slightest provocation, a regime that murdered over 50 million people 60 years ago and was never condemned for it, and one that routinely lies, censors, and arrests political dissidents, and one who blamed other countries for Coronavirus, to create and promote a social media app that they made simply to harvest our data?
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Lokarin
07/08/20 2:21:37 AM
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Judgmenl posted...
Do not post s***ty fake journalism.

I don't follow American news, so I can't tell the difference between your fake and real news

I'm relatively sure the same would be true for you guys and foreign news

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Unbridled9
07/08/20 3:19:57 AM
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Mead posted...
Lets have the government start banning social media apps they dont like

thatll certainly show that totalitarian government how free we are

There's nothing wrong in the slightest with a government banning something being utilized to gather data on it's citizens without their consent or knowledge. That's... pretty basic sense. Not even common, like... basic.

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Mead
07/08/20 5:41:08 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
There's nothing wrong in the slightest with a government banning something being utilized to gather data on it's citizens without their consent or knowledge. That's... pretty basic sense. Not even common, like... basic.

then they should have banned facebook and a lot of other stuff a long time ago

hell facebook even gathers info on your phone contacts and they arent even using facebook

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chaosbowser
07/08/20 8:32:59 AM
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Yeah... I may hate Trump but his China policies are probably his ONLY decent ones so you're not going to see me fight him on this one. TikTok is Beijing based and with the majority of our counterintelligence being related to China these days I can see why banning TikTok makes sense.

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EvilMegas
07/08/20 8:52:52 AM
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Lol weren't yall just complaining last week reddit blocked a bunch of far right subs?

Now its cool?

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Mead
07/08/20 8:56:23 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Mead...it's from fucking China. Even YOU should see banning it is a good thing.

so are we just gonna ban everything from China and stop trading with them? Theyre based in China but theyre also a private company. Banning a social media app is akin to the same kind of internet censorship that countries like China are rightfully criticized for

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EvilMegas
07/08/20 8:58:44 AM
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chaosbowser posted...
Yeah... I may hate Trump but his China policies are probably his ONLY decent ones so you're not going to see me fight him on this one. TikTok is Beijing based and with the majority of our counterintelligence being related to China these days I can see why banning TikTok makes sense.
Yes, China will find all of our secrets by watching Jason Derulo make giant pancakes.

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SunWuKung420
07/08/20 9:03:18 AM
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Tom Clancy wrote a novel about evil men using social media to kill high value targets, "True Faith and Allegiance".

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TheWorstPoster
07/08/20 9:22:06 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Look up China's new security law. The CCP are monsters.The less info they have on people, the better. For the love of Christ, get off your high horse for once in your life!

I think he also seems to have conveniently forgot about the CCP causing the Great Leap Forward from 1958 to 1962. I also honestly won't be surprised at this point if the Democratic Party adopts the phrase "Great Leap Forward" as one of their slogans.
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LinkPizza
07/08/20 9:27:30 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Should Tiktok be banned?

Is it really that bad of a site. All I know about it is it has like short videos or something... I don't use it, so I don't know much about it...

Joker_X_II posted...
All social media should be banned.

I would go that far. Some of it isn't bad. And I can see lots of pictures of stuff I have to miss by being halfway across the country from home. Some of it is bad, but not all of it...

Zeus posted...
And Twitter.

I will say that Twitter should be eradicated, though...
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Bugmeat
07/08/20 9:43:55 AM
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Honestly, I'm seriously disappointed in Google for allowing the app to remain in their store after it was found out just how bad this app is.


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OniRonin
07/08/20 10:00:09 AM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Mead...it's from fucking China. Even YOU should see banning it is a good thing.
xenophobe

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LOUDDOG777
07/08/20 10:10:32 AM
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Our deep state media shows TikTok videos almost every news day and encourages it even though they said they were harvesting your data quickly at first. Even though Navy and DoD discouraged it. Predictable that Google allows it and you can log in using Facebook, Twitter, IG, etc to TikTok. Media trying to make Trump look good when they should be lambasting him, when election time comes they'll try swing the momentum to Trump. It's like a scripted reality TV show presidential elections.

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Judgmenl
07/08/20 11:01:14 AM
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LOUDDOG777 posted...
Our deep state media shows TikTok videos almost every news day and encourages it even though they said they were harvesting your data quickly at first. Even though Navy and DoD discouraged it. Predictable that Google allows it and you can log in using Facebook, Twitter, IG, etc to TikTok. Media trying to make Trump look good when they should be lambasting him, when election time comes they'll try swing the momentum to Trump. It's like a scripted reality TV show presidential elections.
From what I understand all of the US Intelligence Agencies are scared shitless of Chinese Tech, presumably because of the amount of surveillance in it. The said Intelligence Agencies presumably have the same backdoors in other software (might not be Smartphone Apps, but we know things like said agencies can obtain traffic from Telcos).

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adjl
07/08/20 11:35:04 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
There's nothing wrong in the slightest with a government banning something being utilized to gather data on it's citizens without their consent or knowledge. That's... pretty basic sense. Not even common, like... basic.

That's most apps, though, to say nothing of the phone operating systems themselves. Pretty much every online-connected product or service you use today gathers some amount of data on you, to be sold to whoever will buy it. TikTok is particularly egregious about it, both in terms of the amount/nature of the data gathered and how insidious and aggressive it is (the app will actually alter its code to conceal how much data it's gathering if it detects that somebody is looking too closely at it), but I very highly doubt that's why the US government is taking umbrage to it. The US government is upset because they want more access to and control of said data than China is willing to give them. I can almost guarantee that if a US company made an identical app, nobody would be complaining (outside of the data security folks that currently complain about all social media because they understand the implications).

TheWorstPoster posted...
So, it's entirely OK for a dangerous regime [...] to create and promote a social media app that they made simply to harvest our data?

And here I thought you were pro-capitalism. It's not very capitalist to suggest that somebody you don't like shouldn't even be allowed to produce a product that people want. Why censor when you could compete instead? Create and promote a better app, and it doesn't matter what China's "allowed" to do because nobody will care about TikTok anymore.

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ForteEXE3850
07/08/20 11:49:00 AM
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Bugmeat posted...
Honestly, I'm seriously disappointed in Google for allowing the app to remain in their store after it was found out just how bad this app is.


This thing happened a little over a decade ago where google stopped caring about anything except money.

Long gone is the company that took issue with China telling them to agree to censor things.

Now they accept all that money with open arms.
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Mead
07/08/20 12:44:21 PM
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PyroBlade1985 posted...
Look up China's new security law. The CCP are monsters.The less info they have on people, the better. For the love of Christ, get off your high horse for once in your life!

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838

not really seeing what that has to do with an app in the US

if something shouldnt be operating in the US then there really needs to be pressure on Google and Apple for approving it, but the government shouldnt be the ones censoring what people can and cannot access

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EvilMegas
07/08/20 12:46:14 PM
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Mead posted...
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-52765838

not really seeing what that has to do with an app in the US

if something shouldnt be operating in the US then there really needs to be pressure on Google and Apple for approving it, but the government shouldnt be the ones censoring what people can and cannot access

Yeah, guys pick a lane.

Do you want the government telling you what to do or not?

I don't like the mixed signals.

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Blightzkrieg
07/08/20 12:47:19 PM
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It should at least be banned for government employees to use (if it isnt already). I'm not sure how I feel about it being banned nationwide.

It wouldn't be a huge loss (another app would pop up in its place) but you can bet China will rail on it as an example of American hypocrisy.

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chlc3d
07/08/20 12:51:42 PM
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is there any actual evidence they're sending PII to china

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ninja_lootz
07/08/20 1:08:37 PM
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The government blocks imports of harmful products all the time.

Why should a phone app be exempt?

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SunWuKung420
07/08/20 1:41:47 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
It should at least be banned for government employees to use

Most, especially members of any of the armed services, are advised to not have social media accounts and to not let family post about their deployments.

But they are totally safe...

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Wanded
07/08/20 1:53:54 PM
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Joker_X_II posted...
All social media should be banned.
this

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Extreme_light
07/08/20 2:14:52 PM
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Good. But I'm kinda amused at certain 1A conservatives backing this.

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