Current Events > We can all agree 4chan was a net negative for the planet, right?

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Blue_Inigo
06/11/20 10:14:54 PM
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It's just a breeding ground for the dregs of humanity

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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 10:16:16 PM
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Nah. /pol/ maybe, but /b/ caught quite a few child molestors and animal abusers.

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Tropicalwood
06/11/20 10:16:34 PM
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You've clearly never been to the Current Events message board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com

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Doe
06/11/20 10:19:37 PM
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Yeah. I've got a lot of enjoyment out of it but that's mostly been empty and brainless, meanwhile it's been radicalizing a generation of kids with /pol/ racist shit.

That said, the blame goes to all social media. 4chan has been most effective on social rejects for far right views (both authoritarian and anarchistic), but Facebook has easily brought out racism and hysteria in older people, while 'public forum' websites like Twitter allow for mass unverifiable misinformation to be easily shared across the world.

4chan is just a type of social media without personal social pressure, which has positives and negatives to how it can be used to manipulate users and radicalize.

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I4NRulez
06/11/20 10:21:44 PM
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No, /sp/, /v/, and most boards were typically fine.

Plus, if gamefaqs wasnt censored this board would be exactly like /pol/

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Doe
06/11/20 10:22:30 PM
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Evening_Dragon posted...
Nah. /pol/ maybe, but /b/ caught quite a few child molestors and animal abusers.
I'm willing to bet that 4chan has enabled much more pedophilic behavior than it has prevented. Even to this day there's jailbait threads on /tv/. Plus, as 4chan's usage has gone up, /b/ has just become a porn board while /pol/ is possibly the most active on the site.

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Doe
06/11/20 10:24:15 PM
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I4NRulez posted...
/v/, and most boards were typically fine.
/v/ has quite a history of misogyny


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Evening_Dragon
06/11/20 10:24:30 PM
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There's a potential argument there, I can't deny it. That being said, when those threads show up, the majority of responses are
MODS
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as it should be.

It's weird to say, but /b/ is like 60% trans porn now. Nothing remotely subversive or threatening.

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I4NRulez
06/11/20 10:25:40 PM
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Doe posted...
/v/ has quite a history of misogyny

and so does almost every website on the internet.

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Trumpo
06/11/20 10:26:43 PM
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The Pokemon hack was decent
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Doe
06/11/20 10:27:24 PM
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Okay let me rephrase that. /v/ was and is a misogynistic hellhole

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inloveanddeath0
06/11/20 10:27:40 PM
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Tropicalwood posted...
You've clearly never been to the Current Events message board on gamefaqs.gamespot.com
Is this tropical moon

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Hicks233
06/11/20 10:31:36 PM
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Nah. Lots of variety there from games/sport/art/tech/music and pretty lax moderation.

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NeonOctopus
06/11/20 10:32:22 PM
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/pol/ and /b/ definitely but the rest are fine.

Plus that capture the flag shenanigans they did with Shia LaBouf was really entertaining >_>

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MachineJaipur
06/11/20 10:33:17 PM
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Thought this was agreed upon shortly after its creation
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Tropicalwood
06/11/20 10:41:29 PM
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inloveanddeath0 posted...
Is this tropical moon
No, this is Patrick

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JuanCarlos1
06/11/20 10:43:15 PM
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Considering there used to be CP and pictures of actual violent murders...always wondered how the FBI hadnt closed it.

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Bio1590
06/11/20 10:44:58 PM
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4chan shares a large part of the blame for the spread of "casual" racism online that's now just full-blown real racism.
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DeathDeathSong
06/11/20 10:46:48 PM
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im a big fan of how people dont know that 4chan is made up of like. different boards

yes, the most evil and dangerous people in the world..................posting cat pictures on /an/

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ultimate reaver
06/11/20 10:51:50 PM
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Chan culture ruins basically every site it touches including this one

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JuanCarlos1
06/11/20 10:53:32 PM
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ImAMarvel posted...
This. 4chan isn't all bad but I'd say it's probably done much more harm than good. For every positive contribution you can think of that they made, that site has contributed more to the rise of racism, sexism, fascism, etc. 4chan was championing Trump like fucking crazy during 2016, acting like Trump was going to make anime real, whatever that means.

And conspiracies like Pizzagate.

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smoke_break
06/11/20 10:54:05 PM
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Don't you dare talk about Doja Cat's favorite hangout spot like that.

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DeathDeathSong
06/11/20 10:59:25 PM
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truly the most evil, lawless land there is

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yunalenne10
06/11/20 11:18:01 PM
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Would you prefer the worst users in the world to be in one place or all over the place?

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Blue_Inigo
06/11/20 11:19:53 PM
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yunalenne10 posted...
Would you prefer the worst users in the world to be in one place or all over the place?
All over the place. The less organized, the better

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ThePrinceFish
06/11/20 11:20:52 PM
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who is this four chan

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YellowSUV
06/11/20 11:35:21 PM
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Facebook has caused more damage than 4chan. 4chan has an infamous reputation so tons of people are leery of going there.

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joe40001
06/13/20 12:10:13 AM
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No

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R_Jackal
06/13/20 12:12:19 AM
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I honestly think Reddit/Facebook/Twitter was a bigger net negative for humanity than 4ch at this point.

Mind, I never got too far in to 4ch but did see some of the messed up shit that site spawned.
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Esrac
06/13/20 12:14:22 AM
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No. The world would be a less entertaining place without it.
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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:14:57 AM
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4ch attracts some ugly ideologues to its containment boards, but the ideals it implicitly upholds/embodies - freedom of speech, association, content of ideas over individual identity, anonymity, organic memetic spontaneity, order-chaos tao, to name a few - will probably prove increasingly important as the century progresses.

...also, 4channers created KS. KS was a net good for the planet.

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Doe
06/13/20 12:21:50 AM
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Content of ideas is pretty meaningless on 4chan, since it's developed a culture of avoiding critical thinking in favor of bias confirmation and intentional provocation

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Dingydang166
06/13/20 12:24:13 AM
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Nah it is the only thing that is keeping the internet from becoming pussy baby playschool time
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Esrac
06/13/20 12:26:40 AM
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Doe posted...
Content of ideas is pretty meaningless on 4chan, since it's developed a culture of avoiding critical thinking in favor of bias confirmation and intentional provocation

That isn't a 4chan thing, that is a reality thing. Literally everyone engages in bias confirmation. It is how we are wired. We accept information that supports our established viewpoint much more readily than information that doesn't.
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Doe
06/13/20 12:29:39 AM
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What I'm saying is 4chan does not uphold the ideals it is sometimes claimed to

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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:29:54 AM
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Doe posted...
Content of ideas is pretty meaningless on 4chan, since it's developed a culture of avoiding critical thinking in favor of bias confirmation and intentional provocation
Despite a propensity to hivemindedness, memetic drift and and ideological shifts based on adaptation to real world information is a very real phenomenon on 4chan. Talking points proliferate, other talking points gain traction in response, and so on, almost like a massive chaotic fluid evolving discourse. Like synaptic iterations in a neural network, for lack of better words, constrained by topic and post limits unlike tumblr thus creating a bit of a bottleneck phenomenon.

The rigid ideological orthodoxy of the Nazi crowd infecting /pol/ needs to go though.

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TomNook20
06/13/20 12:30:19 AM
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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:31:53 AM
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TomNook20 posted...
is it finally dead?
It's as active as ever.

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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:48:07 AM
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Copy_X_Mk_ll posted...
This, genuinely. 4chan may have got ahold of a lot of impressionable young men and women and instilled some hateful ideas in them, but Facebook/Twitter got ahold of EVERYONE and did that damage, as well as eroding privacy, dehumanizing everyone who started doing shameless shit with their real name attached, peddled misinformation on an enormous scale, and honestly eroded societal empathy irrecoverably.

Nothing weve done since inventing the bombs has caused as big of a downward shift in the core of humanity as the rise of social media.
couldn't have put it better myself

narcissistic and histrionic behavior has gone through the roof

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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:49:48 AM
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AeroFlash15 posted...
Better than twitter
weird twitter is fun, a lot of old school 4channers retreated there

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AeroFlash15
06/13/20 12:53:03 AM
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TheMikh posted...
weird twitter is fun, a lot of old school 4channers retreated there
Twitter used to be fun. I don't browse 4chan, but from what I can tell they at least embrace their degeneracy. That's more palatable than the narcissist and irrationally self righteous cesspool twitter became over time.

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TheMikh
06/13/20 12:59:01 AM
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AeroFlash15 posted...
Twitter used to be fun. I don't browse 4chan, but from what I can tell they at least embrace their degeneracy. I respect that more than the narcissist and irrationally self righteous cesspool twitter became over time.
There seems to be two sides - "facedox" twitter and "avi" twitter - the former obsessed with personal branding and callouts/cancelling of others, the latter carrying a more 4chanesque ethos of ideas and unrepentant ****posting.

But I don't entirely disagree - facedox/mainstream twitter is much larger and thus what the site is best known for.

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SuperShake666
06/13/20 1:00:43 AM
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My hentai collection disagrees with the title of this topic.

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Kalavinka
06/13/20 1:05:40 AM
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I4NRulez posted...
No, /sp/, /v/, and most boards were typically fine.

Plus, if gamefaqs wasnt censored this board would be exactly like /pol/

As someone who used to frequent /co/, I still say the bronies are the root of this mess; their shitposting was next level and probably (re-)inspired places like /pol/.

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Prestoff
06/13/20 1:10:37 AM
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The shit post part of it was hilarious, then there's the that section of 4chan.

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Verdekal
06/13/20 1:28:03 AM
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It's dead? And it's career?

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