Board 8 > Survivor: Winners at War Topic 3: Only One Five-Day Week Left

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This is supremely annoying.

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Oh hell yeah Twinnie

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Pokewars posted...

This is supremely annoying.

Also now my heart is racing, damn it. Wanted him to find that so bad...

FUCK YEAH NATALIE!

Let's keep this season fucking interesting!

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Pokewars posted...

This is supremely annoying.

Don't get me wrong, if Natalie wins this she will be the worst winner in terms of gameplay. But it'll be fun as hell to see happen.

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Ugh, this is just getting worse and worse.
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I love this cause I love natalie, but hate that it's from an idol

but wooooo

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Underleveled posted...

Don't get me wrong, if Natalie wins this she will be the worst winner in terms of gameplay. But it'll be fun as hell to see happen.

Second-worst.

At least she and the rest of the cast knew EoE was a thing when she got voted out.

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No it won't

This is dumb

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She'd be the worst. At least Chris survived a tribal council without immunity.
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Inviso posted...

At least she and the rest of the cast knew EoE was a thing when she got voted out.

Fair enough. I was going by the mindset that she actively needed HIIs to stay in post-return.

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Underleveled posted...

Don't get me wrong, if Natalie wins this she will be the worst winner in terms of gameplay. But it'll be fun as hell to see happen.

She played an incredible game! With the caveat of acknowledging Edge of Extinction as a factor of play, which moreso than last time, involved more than just surviving to return. There were challenges and there were plays to influence the players still in with the Fire Tokens, and affect the game that way.

She had a big hand in how a lot of votes and strategy went by knowing who to target and for how much, which she only could do by winning those advantages in the first place.

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Underleveled posted...

Speaking of which, was anyone else actively aware that the most recent LGBTQ+ winner is Todd? That feels pretty icky too in this day and age, but I guess to be fair they only cast like two or three per season, so it's not as bad as literally half the cast struggling to win on a bias.

Err, that came out wrong. What I meant was the ratio isn't as lopsided, not that it isn't bad that there's a bias.

Who are these female and LGBT players getting robbed? Chrissy?

Sarah deserved to beat Brad and Troyzan so she did. I'm really at a loss for who else should have won and lost to a man. Carolyn? Hannah? Uhhh


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Mega Mana posted...

She played an incredible game! With the caveat of acknowledging Edge of Extinction as a factor of play, which moreso than last time, involved more than just surviving to return. There were challenges and there were plays to influence the players still in with the Fire Tokens, and affect the game that way.

She had a big hand in how a lot of votes and strategy went by knowing who to target and for how much, which she only could do by winning those advantages in the first place.

Yeah sorry, knowing what rock looked like a chair isn't worth skipping 80% of the return challenge (amd the game) and getting a HII upon returning

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F5 immunity challenge spoilers

thank fucking god

Well, at least Tony won't be screwed by the Probstbucks.
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SavageInTheBox posted...

Yeah sorry, knowing what rock looked like a chair isn't worth skipping 80% of the return challenge (amd the game) and getting a HII upon returning

Having the energy and endurance to outpace ten (eleven?) other people after being out there for longer than anyone? Yes.

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SavageInTheBox posted...

Underleveled posted...

Speaking of which, was anyone else actively aware that the most recent LGBTQ+ winner is Todd? That feels pretty icky too in this day and age, but I guess to be fair they only cast like two or three per season, so it's not as bad as literally half the cast struggling to win on a bias.

Err, that came out wrong. What I meant was the ratio isn't as lopsided, not that it isn't bad that there's a bias.

Who are these female and LGBT players getting robbed? Chrissy?

Sarah deserved to beat Brad and Troyzan so she did. I'm really at a loss for who else should have won and lost to a man. Carolyn? Hannah? Uhhh

Mike White is probably the only one. Chrissy probably loses to Devon if there's no fire making challenge, but I'd be willing to entertain the idea.
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Poor michelle screwed by dumb bullshit

Natalie can literally make FTC while being vulnerable once AND GETTING VOTED OUT

At least tony finishes the game with no votes cast against him

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SavageInTheBox posted...

Who are these female and LGBT players getting robbed? Chrissy?

Sarah deserved to beat Brad and Troyzan so she did. I'm really at a loss for who else should have won and lost to a man. Carolyn? Hannah? Uhhh

There are other women in recent seasons besides the zero-vote female finalists. The only women allowed to reach the end tend to be goats that no one respects, whereas we've had guys like Tommy march to the end unscathed.

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Mega Mana posted...

Having the energy and endurance to outpace ten (eleven?) other people after being out there for longer than anyone? Yes.

She was outpaced by Wendell. She just knew where to go

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spy nest!

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Sooo everyone in agreement that Ben is going next?

Inviso posted...

There are other women in recent seasons besides the zero-vote female finalists. The only women allowed to reach the end tend to be goats that no one respects, whereas we've had guys like Tommy march to the end unscathed.

If you get voted out you don't deserve to win. You can't have a jury bias if you don't face a jury

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looool "they were talking for an hour"

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...what

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hey, we don't know how that scene got edited down... it might have been that long!

how is Sarah getting this edit now

I do not like this one bit

God this is vomit inducing

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hey remember "there's no way natalie has an idol" that's still a thing right? RIGHT?!


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I was going to make a slightly snarky post acknowledging the chair find (and I did not count Wendell as part of those numbers) about how it has traction because Natalie has no clue to avoid the well with Tony missing because she hasn't been around long enough, especially with sn idol up her sleeve.

But damn, Ben. Wow. Was not expecting that, but... after acknowledging not getting any fire tokens or advantages last episode, and Natalie Edge intel... he probably know he has no way to win and is willing to sacrifice his game to help someone who does have a chance and needs it more.

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SavageInTheBox posted...

If you get voted out you don't deserve to win. You can't have a jury bias if you don't face a jury

It's not just a jury bias. Women are more likely to get voted out if there's fear of an idol being played, because the aggressive male players are more likely to have idols. And that has nothing to do with an ability to find them or how often they look. It's the other players writing off whenever a big dog goes after an idol, but as soon as a woman or a man of the Know-It-All or Neurotic Nerd archetype even steps away from camp everyone assumes they are going to an idol and plot to get rid of them.

On the flip side, if a woman played like Tony, she'd be seen as a bitch and get voted out. This goes all the way back to the early days, as Mario Lanza points out, in the first two seasons, compare the reaction to Richard, the main villain of the first season, to the reaction to Jerri, the main villain of the second season.

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can we cancel calling Sarah by her last name thanks

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friendship is magic

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I do wonder, does anyone know how many idols men have found versus women? Honestly curious.

Oh MAN. NOW we're cooking with gas. If Tony wins tonight, at least it feels like he beat the best of the best, instead of going to the end with two goats.

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I'm really shocked. I really thought Ben was a 0-vote finalist.

Also, that fabled F3 I got "spoiled" on almost a year ago was Rob, Amber and Ben. For a while there it seemed like at least one would make it for real.

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I...dont really get how that helps Sarah

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is...is sarah gonna win?!

i mean, if tony pulls it out it's at least a heckin good fake-out

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Yeah, neither do I. Natalie wasn't going to put Ben in fire, so even his fire making threat isn't a worry.
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wolfgod37 posted...

I do wonder, does anyone know how many idols men have found versus women? Honestly curious.

Thanks to Angelina, we know that pre-DvG it was something around 85%-15%. I think it's gotten a little closer since then.

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This challenge again?

bleh

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My favorite

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Underleveled posted...

It's not just a jury bias. Women are more likely to get voted out if there's fear of an idol being played, because the aggressive male players are more likely to have idols. And that has nothing to do with an ability to find them or how often they look. It's the other players writing off whenever a big dog goes after an idol, but as soon as a woman or a man of the Know-It-All or Neurotic Nerd archetype even steps away from camp everyone assumes they are going to an idol and plot to get rid of them.

On the flip side, if a woman played like Tony, she'd be seen as a bitch and get voted out. This goes all the way back to the early days, as Mario Lanza points out, in the first two seasons, compare the reaction to Richard, the main villain of the first season, to the reaction to Jerri, the main villain of the second season.

People are definitely suspicious of any player who disappears from camp, but sure ok. We're all just inherently sexist. Sarah is a hero. Let's just give her the money now. Can we stop talking about this horse shit

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No reaction chat after that tribal council? I know we're pressed for time here but would've like some post-tribal reacs...

give me hands on a hard idol or give me death

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I think i want sarah to win less than natalie somehow

Michele > Tony >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Natalie > Sarah

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The Mana Sword posted...

give me hands on a hard idol or give me death

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DKC3 mechanical music

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Oh shit!! O.o

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I was just thinking Tony/Sarah firemaking for the final tribal spot would be poetic...