Poll of the Day > Settle a dispute with my wife

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Do you believe a word can rhyme with itself?

Not gonna say who is saying what here, in case any of youse who hates me guts with a fiery passion want to slant the results against me out of sheer spite...

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It ends in the same sound, so yes it rhymes, first part is just not different, so it is a lazy rhyme.

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No it has to be a different word

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No. Drink is one word.

"A rhyme is a repetition of similar sounds (usually, exactly the same sound) in the final stressed syllables and any following syllables of two or more words."

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Well what rhymes with trucker, trigger and orange

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A rhyme would use different words so no.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

It ends in the same sound, so yes it rhymes, first part is just not different, so it is a lazy rhyme.

Agree.

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Rhymes can absolutely be the same word. You'd say "reign" and "rain" are rhymes of the each other even though they're still pronounced the same; it's no different from using the same spelling twice. As Nightcrawler mentioned already, it's just lazy, but technically it still works.

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ScritchOwl posted...

Well what rhymes with trucker

Well sucker for one.

how lazy of her, it works, but poor form, ok?

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I'm not sure whether or not I can link this to a poor lexicon, but you can save this asinine argument from the brink without resorting to any real time sink. In better times, I think, I'd suggest you better off going to an ice rink, rather than disputing rhyme and repetition over "drink."

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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

You'd say "reign" and "rain" are rhymes of the each other

No Id say theyre Homonyms.

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You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

And Eminem rhymes Orange with syringe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPcR5RVXHMg

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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Rhymes can absolutely be the same word. You'd say "reign" and "rain" are rhymes of the each other even though they're still pronounced the same; it's no different from using the same spelling twice. As Nightcrawler mentioned already, it's just lazy, but technically it still works.

those two words are not pronounced the same my dude

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Lysol posted...

those two words are not pronounced the same my dude

Rhymes can depend on your accent.

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Lysol posted...

those two words are not pronounced the same my dude

I'm going to have to rein this in and ask how you pronounce the two words, because I've yet to hear them any different.

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Far-Queue posted...

Do you believe a word can rhyme with itself?

As a part-time songwriter, this is the 2nd laziest thing you can possibly do. The first would be to just make up sounds when you can't even think of a word (example in Rap: "Uhhh..." "Mmm.." and etc)

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Entity13 posted...

I'm going to have to rein this in and ask how you pronounce the two words, because I've yet to hear them any different.

It's tricky, but "reign" is usually pronounced with a shorter "a" sound, while "rain" has a slightly longer one.

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Nichtcrawler X posted...

It ends in the same sound, so yes it rhymes, first part is just not different, so it is a lazy rhyme.

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DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC posted...

It's tricky, but "reign" is usually pronounced with a shorter "a" sound, while "rain" has a slightly longer one.

In what accent? They're identical in the vast majority of British accents, I can assure you!

(Edit: the A sounds, I mean. Depending on the accent one can get a very slight difference in length of the ending syllable.)

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Lol you braniacs probably have about a hundred masters degrees between the lot of you but still think a word cant rhyme with itself?

be serious lol

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FatalAccident posted...

Lol you braniacs probably have about a hundred masters degrees between the lot of you but still think a word cant rhyme with itself?

be serious lol

By definition it cant dude

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Far-Queue and his wife be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8FAqOQUq4

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You can rhyme a word with itself, but it's a lazy cop-out for finding a more legitimate rhyme and will often stand out so glaringly as to take away from the piece as a whole unless that repetition is somehow significant.

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adjl posted...

You can rhyme a word with itself, but it's a lazy cop-out

You cant actually

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rhyme
One of the two or more words corresponding in sound

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/rhyme_1
ends with the same sound as another word

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/rhyme
A word that that it pronounced identically with the other word from the vowel in its stressed syllable to the end.

even the google dictionary: a word that has the same sound as another word

Notice how they all say another word or two or more words.
are you going to tell me that all these dictionaries are just wrong?

Lets say we spend the day by the bay.
has three rhymes in it.

Day by day
has none.

get it?

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ZBug_ posted...

Day by day

Such amazing rhyming. Please share more.

I'm kidding.

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ZBug_ posted...

get it?

None of those require that the other word is a different word.

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ZBug_ posted...

Day by day

https://youtu.be/ekoHxB4idmg

RCtheWSBC posted...

Far-Queue and his wife be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8FAqOQUq4

lmao I forgot Kevin Hart was in that movie. I bet Anna Faris could lift his tiny self IRL lol

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ZBug_ posted...

Notice how they all say another word or two or more words.
are you going to tell me that all these dictionaries are just wrong?

That's just making it clear that you can't have a single word be a rhyme, it has to be matched with another entity, but that other entity can be a clone.
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Kyuubi4269 posted...

That's just making it clear that you can't have a single word be a rhyme, it has to be matched with another entity, but that other entity can be a clone.

"dRIVE, dRIVE, dRIVE, dRIVE, dRIVE" is not iambic pentameter, just like:

"I like to drive,
It's fun to drive"

isn't a rhyme.


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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Rhymes can absolutely be the same word. You'd say "reign" and "rain" are rhymes of the each other even though they're still pronounced the same; it's no different from using the same spelling twice. As Nightcrawler mentioned already, it's just lazy, but technically it still works.

That's not even close to being the same thing. The only time when the same word is acceptable is *maybe* when the word has two different meanings and the lyrics are strongly contrasting that difference in meanings.


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ZBug_ posted...

You cant actually

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rhyme
One of the two or more words corresponding in sound

https://www.oxfordlearnersdictionaries.com/us/definition/english/rhyme_1
ends with the same sound as another word

https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/rhyme
A word that that it pronounced identically with the other word from the vowel in its stressed syllable to the end.

even the google dictionary: a word that has the same sound as another word

Notice how they all say another word or two or more words.
are you going to tell me that all these dictionaries are just wrong?

Lets say we spend the day by the bay.
has three rhymes in it.

Day by day
has none.

get it?

In terms of how it's defined, sure. In terms of how rhymes actually get used (to provide a pleasing repetition of sounds that helps to define the meter and rhythm of the poem), though, using the same word again provides the same repetition of sounds and therefore the same function. Practically speaking, that's a rhyme.

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Also, pain and again don't rhyme.

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Zareth posted...

Also, pain and again don't rhyme.

Depends on how you pronounce again...

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Literally nobody says "a-gain" unless they're reading a poem aloud in class and need it to rhyme with pain.

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I thought the word had to be different to rhyme with another word...
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Zareth posted...

Literally nobody says "a-gain" unless they're reading a poem aloud in class and need it to rhyme with pain.

Lots of Europeans say it as "a-gain"

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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Lots of Europeans say it as "a-gain"

theyre just doing that to be annoying

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It rhymes but it's gonna make a poem or rap sound like lazy trash.

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ZBug_ posted...

By definition it cant dude

Yeah Ive seen the definition. But from a logic standpoint - do two words sound the same? Yep

okay so they rhyme

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FatalAccident posted...

Yeah Ive seen the definition. But from a logic standpoint - do two words sound the same? Yep

okay so they rhyme

But it's not two words, right?
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RCtheWSBC posted...

Far-Queue and his wife be like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sf8FAqOQUq4

That's my favorite part of that movie.
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In this topic, dictionaries are wrong and everyone else knows best.

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ZBug_ posted...

In this topic, dictionaries are wrong and everyone else knows best.

In this topic, people blindly follow a dictionary definition and throw common sense out the window.

youre going to tell me the word pole doesnt rhyme with the word pole cause theyre not two diff words. So it sounds the same but it doesnt rhyme, because theyre the same word. Oh but wait it rhymes with poll right?

You guys are hilarious

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ZBug_ posted...

In this topic, dictionaries are wrong and everyone else knows best.

The dictionary definitions that you posted also don't say they have to be different words.

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Pus_N_Pecans posted...

Lots of Europeans say it as "a-gain"

Yep. Lots of British people do, depending on the region they're from. I have friends here who do, though it isn't how I generally do it myself - and I do say "generally", because depending on the emphasis, what it is I'm saying, and the environment, sometimes even I will.

As for the "dictionary definition" pedantry, have you never heard of evolution of language? How do you think dictionaries even happened? If you take dictionary definitions as rules one can never ever break in practical use, you're both ignorant and snobbish. Any linguistics professor would tell you that's how languages stagnate.

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trodi_911 posted...

The dictionary definitions that you posted also don't say they have to be different words.

SunWuKung420 posted...

"A rhyme is a repetition of similar sounds (usually, exactly the same sound) in the final stressed syllables and any following syllables of two or more words."

Saying drive repeatedly isn't 2 or more words, it's one word repeated.

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Trialia posted...

Yep. Lots of British people do, depending on the region they're from.

You're British?
Fuck... yet another British gimmick poster giving us Brits a bad name. You're however not wrong.

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SunWuKung420 posted...

Saying drive repeatedly isn't 2 or more words, it's one word repeated.

It's still two words. It's just two of the same word.

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Black_Crusher posted...

As a part-time songwriter, this is the 2nd laziest thing you can possibly do. The first would be to just make up sounds when you can't even think of a word (example in Rap: "Uhhh..." "Mmm.." and etc)

What?

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