Board 8 > Contest Stats and Discussion - Part 1350

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LeonhartFour posted...

I'm just outside the top 50, and today's matches probably don't kick anyone off, so I probably have no chance to make it since I have Three Houses > Xenoblade tomorrow.

Wait, that match is tomorrow?! Goodbye leaderboard, 19th place's probably my best ever (doubt people above me get today's wrong).

Not to mention the other match isn't set in stone.

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Smash is climbing.

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If you have Ultimate > Odyssey, at this point you're basically just relying on Ultimate being higher on the Nintendo hierarchy, since Odyssey has looked way more dominant each round so far. Same thing with Three Houses > Xenoblade. And the Nintendo hierarchy can be wacky, so I wouldn't count anything out yet.

Rally spillover might have messed up the board vote.
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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Rally spillover might have messed up the board vote.

I want to believe this instead.

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There was no board vote. Some people just left after having waited for more than an hour.

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Next round is freeform pictures. Just help submit pictures of Link and Mario is done. With that said, I assume someone will submit a Byleth picture to sabotage SSBU.
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Yeah I have GTA and Fire Emblem winning tomorrow so Im definitely falling off that leaderboard.

3D World is a legitimately great game. I enjoyed it more than Odyssey.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Next round is freeform pictures. Just help submit pictures of Link and Mario is done. With that said, I assume someone will submit a Byleth picture to sabotage SSBU.

both pictures should just be images of Mario to confuse voters
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Gall posted...

If you have Ultimate > Odyssey, at this point you're basically just relying on Ultimate being higher on the Nintendo hierarchy, since Odyssey has looked way more dominant each round so far. Same thing with Three Houses > Xenoblade. And the Nintendo hierarchy can be wacky, so I wouldn't count anything out yet.

Theres no Hierachy for FE/Xenblade

Xenoblade is favoured purely for being a traditional RPG instead of an SRPG which people don't like as much on this site.

If Smash loses to Odyssey it has more to do with people not giving a shit about it as much as Brawl in 2010 and Melee in general.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

Next round is freeform pictures. Just help submit pictures of Link and Mario is done. With that said, I assume someone will submit a Byleth picture to sabotage SSBU.

Link, Cloud, and Snake to really butter up those voters

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Seconding the opinions that console NSMB > portable NSMB, and 3D World > 3D Land. The portable iterations aren't even close IMO.

Best portable Mario platformer IMO is Super Mario Land 2. The final Wario's Castle level is one of the absolute best levels in the entire franchise. Thrilling stuff.

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TAFKAHurricane posted...

Yeah I have GTA and Fire Emblem winning tomorrow so Im definitely falling off that leaderboard.

GTA might still win.

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Minecraft currently being stronger than DMCV and the SK three-pack assuming SSBU=Odyssey is setting off so many alarms in my head.

GTA should be considered the favorite tomorrow (it won't, but should). Fire Emblem not so much.

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Seanchan posted...

3D World is a legitimately great game. I enjoyed it more than Odyssey.

Needs a Switch Remaster ASAP.

IT will never get the recognition due to it being exclusive to an awful console.

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KamikazePotato posted...

Fire Emblem not so much.

I challenge my fate!
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TheCodeisBosco posted...

Seconding the opinions that console NSMB > portable NSMB, and 3D World > 3D Land. The portable iterations aren't even close IMO.

Best portable Mario platformer IMO is Super Mario Land 2. The final Wario's Castle level is one of the absolute best levels in the entire franchise. Thrilling stuff.

NSBM DS and Wii are close but I might give the edge to DS.

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KamikazePotato posted...

GTA should be considered the favorite tomorrow (it won't, but should). Fire Emblem not so much.

Yes it should. Despite P4G being impressive. GTA has way too strong of a European/Day vote. Might be a close 51-49 match though


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lordjers posted...

NSBM DS and Wii are close but I might give the edge to DS.

I hope you're talking about NSMB1. That was ok.NSMB2...is the worst Mario game nintendo have put out since Mario is missing.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

I hope you're talking about NSMB1. That was ok.NSMB2...is the worst Mario game nintendo have put out since Mario is missing.

Yes, the first one. 2 is 3DS. I have that one but haven't played it.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

Theres no Hierachy for FE/Xenblade

Both are Nintendo RPG series. It makes sense for most people who have played one to have played or at least be familiar with the other.

tgs2 posted...

Minecraft currently being stronger than DMCV and the SK three-pack assuming SSBU=Odyssey is setting off so many alarms in my head.

I can believe this. Shovel Knight's pack sucks, and Minecraft has never been outright hated.

On Smash vs. Mario:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4092-east-division-round-1-smash-bros-brawl-vs-mario-kart-ds

Is this is the only time they've faced 1v1 in a contest before?

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2451-mushroom-division-final-super-mario-bros-vs-super-smash-bros
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CaptainOfCrush posted...

Link, Cloud, and Snake to really butter up those voters

SSBM v FFX's spirit lives on.

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Minecraft has had a bit of a renaissance lately, partially due to continued support and a Switch release, and partially due to some weird counterculture reaction to Fortnite. I can buy it being stronger than in 2015, but I still wouldn't have taken it over Shovel Knight

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https://i.imgur.com/mYQqSPV.jpg

3D World has some of the best couch co-op around.

Also, I'm not ready to overreact to today's results. Spider-man PS4 was a big deal, and it's pretty much matching ALBW's % against Smash.

Smash has had heavier competition than Odyssey early on. ALBW and Spider-man would crush Shovel Knight and DMC5.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2451-mushroom-division-final-super-mario-bros-vs-super-smash-bros

WHAT

Well that was before even Brawl, but still not a great piece of news.

Mario is already preparing to cheat another hierarchy match.

He's getting the whole toolkit ready.

Team Rocket Elite posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2451-mushroom-division-final-super-mario-bros-vs-super-smash-bros

Meaningless now. That poll was basically "Every Mario Game Ever vs. SSBM"

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plasmabeam posted...

Meaningless now. That poll was basically "Every Mario Game Ever vs. SSBM"

actually I'd wager Brawl hype was the main thing that allowed Smash to do as well as it did
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xp1337 posted...

SSBM v FFX's spirit lives on.

lol the Nintendo gang vs. Tidus.

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Team Rocket Elite posted...

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/2451-mushroom-division-final-super-mario-bros-vs-super-smash-bros

everyone here forgets gamefaqs used to have taste

This does feed into my observation that although Ultimate's board in consistently one of the busiest on the site, half those people don't even play the game and just treat it as an action figure collection of characters. They don't really value it much as a game.

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MechanicalWall posted...

This does feed into my observation that although Ultimate's board in consistently one of the busiest on the site, half those people don't even play the game and just treat it as an action figure collection of characters. They don't really value it much as a game.

I feel like I have more fun thinking about the DLC of the game than the actual game itself.

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Ultimate's netcode is awful and sucks some of the fun away, but that is true for all of the Switch's online infrastructure.

Question for math dudes

What does Spiderman have to get on DMCV for Smash = Odyssey

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LeonhartFour posted...

actually I'd wager Brawl hype was the main thing that allowed Smash to do as well as it did

It certainly boosted Smash, but there's no evidence to suggest it was a major factor. At best it probably offset the ludicrous match pic advantage that SMB had.

SSBM was *the* Nintendo game during that era. Don't forget this was back when Nintendo was kiddie, Zelda was Celda, Metroid was "boring and not enough like Halo," etc. Smash WAS Nintendo at that point.


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Woohoo, I cracked the top 50! Still haven't played a single game in this tournament :D

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Zenithian Legend posted...

Woohoo, I cracked the top 50! Still haven't played a single game in this tournament :D

That's... actually incredible. Congrats!

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LeonhartFour posted...

actually I'd wager Brawl hype was the main thing that allowed Smash to do as well as it did

Brawl hype didn't even start until 2007. So no.

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I'm at 128 and was hoping to make the leaderboard before picking both Persona 4 AND Fire Emblem kills me. Dammit.

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adamko posted...

https://i.imgur.com/mYQqSPV.jpg

Excellent

Honestly they should post this on all the Shitty bloodborne Reddit topics. And some of the Sony fangirl sites too.

The tears will be delicious

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Gall posted...

Both are Nintendo RPG series. It makes sense for most people who have played one to have played or at least be familiar with the other.

I can believe this. Shovel Knight's pack sucks, and Minecraft has never been outright hated.

On Smash vs. Mario:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/4092-east-division-round-1-smash-bros-brawl-vs-mario-kart-ds

Is this is the only time they've faced 1v1 in a contest before?

Yeah but theres no Hierarchy. Because Xenoblade has like 3 games. FE has over a dozen. SFF? sure. If FE beats XB or visa versa...doesn't prove one of higher in the hierarchy than the other.

My thoery on why i think Xenoblade could be stronger than TH is because i think its the strongest Nintendo exclusive JRPG that isn't named Mario RPG on this site while FE series are SRPG's...people don't like them as much as traditional RPG's. ITs why Golden Sun was WAY stronger than any FE game pre 2010 despite FE having like half a dozen games back then and GS having like two.

Hierachy suggests a series is below on or the other. Thats too premature to determine for a new franchise that barely has 3 games. For Mario and Zelda? sure heres dozens of games to compare them.

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Yuri_LowelI posted...

I hope you're talking about NSMB1. That was ok.NSMB2...is the worst Mario game nintendo have put out since Mario is missing.

Wow, how can an opinion be so bad? NSMB1 was absolute trash. NSMB2 wasn't great, but it was at least decent.

Also, I could turn your statement around since NSMB1 came out last decade. Your statement is worse because without even having to remember the exact release date of NSMB2, it's a 3DS game so 2011 at the earliest. So your statement is invalid because the real worst Mario game came out in 2010!

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TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Wow, how can an opinion be so bad? NSMB1 was absolute trash. NSMB2 wasn't great, but it was at least decent.

Also, I could turn your statement around since NSMB1 came out last decade. Your statement is worse because without even having to remember the exact release date of NSMB2, it's a 3DS game so 2011 at the earliest. So your statement is invalid because the real worst Mario game came out in 2010!

Nah It was that bad i forgot what system it came out.

tbh even the first is average. Too many copy pasted levels and 0 innovation. Dull boring games. NSMB2 coud very well be a DS game..thats how forgetful it was.

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What a fun match that was, too bad i had Bloodborne winning this division. This will cost me some points.

TsunamiXXVIII posted...

Wow, how can an opinion be so bad? NSMB1 was absolute trash. NSMB2 wasn't great, but it was at least decent.

Also, I could turn your statement around since NSMB1 came out last decade. Your statement is worse because without even having to remember the exact release date of NSMB2, it's a 3DS game so 2011 at the earliest. So your statement is invalid because the real worst Mario game came out in 2010!

Nsmb1 is like... fine, just sort of uninteresting. Its like they set out to make the most just ok game ever. There was no spark.

and then NSMB2 somehow felt even more phoned in.

I wouldnt say either of them is bad since its still Mario and Mario is inherently fun, but I think theyre safely my bottom two Mario platformers.
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MoogleKupo141 posted...

Nsmb1 is like... fine, just sort of uninteresting. Its like they set out to make the most just ok game ever. There was no spark.

and then NSMB2 somehow felt even more phoned in.

I wouldnt say either of them is bad since its still Mario and Mario is inherently fun, but I think theyre safely my bottom two Mario platformers.

NSMB2 is the only Mario game Nintendo have put out that is below an 80 in average ratings. Critics are usually up Nintendo's rear most of the time but they didn't fall for that rehash.

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