Current Events > Sooo, what's the actual solution to homelessness?

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Sites like Reddit will crucify you for saying anything negative about them or their situations

how do you help the community that an overwhelmingly majority do not want help. Abuse drugs, violent and sexual crimes are committed constantly, suffer mental issues. and have huge sanitation issues? I worked with a police team for a bit that was just for helping them(no arresting or citations).The statistics just leave you disappointed. They dont want help and are super violent.

I was reading a Reddit thread just now, they were talking shit about the citizens of LA being horrible people for not wanting to have needle/excrement sidewalks in front of their residence

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Ship them half way to Siberia.

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UBI would help a lot

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Well having a healthcare system that allows the disadvantaged to have mental health issues treated at a stage before they become life ruining would be a good start.

ArchiePeck posted...

Well having a healthcare system that allows the disadvantaged to have mental health issues treated at a stage before they become life ruining would be a good start.

Is that feasible? Ive dealt with many normal and well off families that have a person in their family with mental health issues that lives basically revolve around the person since they were first diagnosed? Theres so much difficult with well off people, how much harder would it be with the homeless

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Free living spaces for those who can be helped with that. Institutions for those too crazy to function.
Tightly control the supply of needles. People can get a new needle, but only by turning in an old needle.

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darkprince45 posted...

Is that feasible? Ive dealt with many normal and well off families that have a person in their family with mental health issues that lives basically revolve around the person since they were first diagnosed? Theres so much difficult with well off people, how much harder would it be with the homeless

It would be difficult, but the true measure of a society is how it cares for its most vulnerable members.

Ship them off to CA where the weather is mild and they can sleep in the streets and panhandle off rich liberals.

Mental asylums and pacifying medications.

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Some of yours guys suggestions. SCOTUS essentially ruled that you just cant take homeless rights and place them in a mental asylum

as for free space/housing. I just read a thing where a city pays 100k a month to provide a space for 50 homeless. Imagine that for LA where theres 50-60k. Who gonna pay billions

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The best solution is to somehow come up with billions of dollars to house and protect them and give them education/skills/treatment without judgemental people butting in.

But people will never do that, so...reservations?

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give them homes.

free universal healthcare, including mental healthcare.

it's not rocket science here

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Start pulling out of conflicts in the Middle East.

stop world policing.

funnel those funds into our education system and health system.

that will make the rate go down as time goes on.

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darkprince45 posted...

The statistics just leave you disappointed. They dont want help and are super violent.

what are you talking about? cops are always asking for additional help that they don't need

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At the risk of being misinterpreted, I'd say the first step is to bypass housing regulation and set up shelter akin to a modern military camp. The reason for that being that individuals who are struggling due to an unforeseen financial difficulty need a place to shelter and a spot they can call their own. Those folks will likely clear themselves out of the place once they get their affairs in order. $100 million apartment complexes that take years to construct and have a slow turnover rate won't help either, the problem is too immediate and the numbers of homeless exceed standard housing construction rates.

Those with substance abuse issues or in need of mental health services are trickier. The former the country currently recognizes a need to address 'thanks to' the opioid epidemic. The services to offer folks like that are already known. It's just important to note that treatment needs to be the goal, and not a 'war' approach as you see some counties doing with things like anti-camping laws. The latter folks though... The US gutted its mental health infrastructure decades ago. While the mental hospitals back then certainly had issues, throwing that burden into jails and the streets wasn't a realistic solution. It just kicked the can down the road a bit; something politicians love to do.

As with most other program proposals, this won't get 100% of people, but even getting 2/3's off the streets will mean millions of people return to 'normal' lives.

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Build affordable homes

Every builder wants to make hundreds of thousands of dollars on homes

Rexdragon125 posted...

Build affordable homes

Every builder wants to make hundreds of thousands of dollars on homes

How many homeless people do you think can afford a house?

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Bring back mental institutes, enforce the law and lock the repeat offenders up good. Also on top of that stop building them houses they cant afford. They also need to give healthy single, and young individuals with no kids more support instead of dropping them at the bottom of the priority list.

But most of all they need to start encouraging people to simply leave. The housing crisis there is simple supply and demand. If the coat of living in a area is to high and the job market rubbish, gtfo.

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DiegoSanchez206 posted...

How many homeless people do you think can afford a house?

Affordable homes really are a foreign concept huh?

There isn't one. Just like there isn't a solution to crime. No matter what you or anyone does, there will always be crime, homelessness etc

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2015/04/17/the-surprisingly-simple-way-utah-solved-chronic-homelessness-and-saved-millions/

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Make more affordable housing while connecting people to services (medical, mental health, etc) as needed.

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Ship them off to countries that give out free housing, free food, free healthcare, free shoes, free clothes, just everything free. Send them there.

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We give them homes to live in? It's this simple....

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Prismsblade posted...

Bring back mental institutes, enforce the law and lock the repeat offenders up good.

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Give them homes so they can trash it and turn it into a drug den.

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Rexdragon125 posted...

Affordable homes really are a foreign concept huh?

To people that have zero money, yes. Not such thing. Please, educate me how people with no money and no job get a house.

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Significantly lower the cost of housing, have more available jobs with livable wages and give the homeless free housing. Make it easier to live and people won't get kicked out of their homes and won't resort to drugs to cope with their problems.

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Find a super efficient form of energy that can easily converted to use in everyday life and is extremely abundant.

averagejoel posted...

give them homes.

free universal healthcare, including mental healthcare.

it's not rocket science here

Yeah, this. There are oodles of empty homes in the U.S. Far, far more than are needed to house every homeless person. In fact, they did this in Utah and last I heard they were seeing good results.

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averagejoel posted...

what are you talking about? cops are always asking for additional help that they don't need

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It would cost approx $20 billion to end homelessness in the U.S that's chump change for the federal gov't.

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averagejoel posted...

what are you talking about? cops are always asking for additional help that they don't need

Like? Last time I checked were underbudget and understaffed. With one cop for every 2k people

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runuts27 posted...

It would cost approx $20 billion to end homelessness in the U.S that's chump change for the federal gov't.

Where do you get that number?

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Expand conservatorship, so that these people can get the help they need. It's 99% mental illness.

More illegal/undocumented immigrants come to L.A. than there are homeless people, and yet majority of the people on the street are actual citizens. It's not a housing thing, unless you mean a hospital bed

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darkprince45 posted...

Like? Last time I checked were underbudget and understaffed. With one cop for every 2k people

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joe40001 posted...

Where do you get that number?

https://thinkprogress.org/it-would-actually-be-very-simple-to-end-homelessness-forever-d6f15852b2ec/

A commission formed by the Bipartisan Policy Center put forward one solution for the whole homeless population. It recommended giving rental assistance to everyone whose income is at or below 30 percent of area median income (AMI), or between $13,650 for a single person to $19,500 for a family of four, through a reformed voucher program. At a cost of $22.5 billion, the report notes, It could, in effect, end homelessness for the vast majority of those experiencing it, given that nearly all homeless households fall into the category of earning at or below 30 percent of AMI. Roman, who served on the commission, noted, It would basically solve homelessness.

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averagejoel posted...

I mean youre playing that for actual victims. I can only do a call at a time so Im not stressed. But just recently we had a lady get killed by husband because we just had no bodies to spare for almost 2 hours. Originally came out as a verbal dispute. You come off like try a tryhard lol

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darkprince45 posted...

I mean youre playing that for actual victims. I can only do a call at a time so Im not stressed. But just recently we had a lady get killed by husband because we just had no bodies to spare for almost 2 hours. Originally came out as a verbal dispute. You come off like try a tryhard lol

locking up domestic abusers goes against the interest of cops

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That is literally the dumbest thing I ever heard. Domestics are the call we respond to the most. If there is a claim of battery it is a mandatory report. If there is any probable cause like sign of injury it is a mandatory arrest. You will literally get fired if you dont. When I was new I didnt make an arrest on a call because I didnt think there was PC. By the end of an hour I had a station captain calling me why

I dont know what kind of ass backwards logic youre using lol. Theres no best interest for me in making an arrest lol

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runuts27 posted...

https://thinkprogress.org/it-would-actually-be-very-simple-to-end-homelessness-forever-d6f15852b2ec/

A commission formed by the Bipartisan Policy Center put forward one solution for the whole homeless population. It recommended giving rental assistance to everyone whose income is at or below 30 percent of area median income (AMI), or between $13,650 for a single person to $19,500 for a family of four, through a reformed voucher program. At a cost of $22.5 billion, the report notes, It could, in effect, end homelessness for the vast majority of those experiencing it, given that nearly all homeless households fall into the category of earning at or below 30 percent of AMI. Roman, who served on the commission, noted, It would basically solve homelessness.

Cool thanks

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runuts27 posted...

https://thinkprogress.org/it-would-actually-be-very-simple-to-end-homelessness-forever-d6f15852b2ec/

A commission formed by the Bipartisan Policy Center put forward one solution for the whole homeless population. It recommended giving rental assistance to everyone whose income is at or below 30 percent of area median income (AMI), or between $13,650 for a single person to $19,500 for a family of four, through a reformed voucher program. At a cost of $22.5 billion, the report notes, It could, in effect, end homelessness for the vast majority of those experiencing it, given that nearly all homeless households fall into the category of earning at or below 30 percent of AMI. Roman, who served on the commission, noted, It would basically solve homelessness.

That article is 5+ years old ...

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darkprince45 posted...

I dont know what kind of ass backwards logic youre using lol. Theres no best interest for me in making an arrest lol

cops have much higher rates of domestic abuse than the general population

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the problem i see with giving housing to the homeless is that i dont think a lot of them are mentally equipped to manage a home, this just makes the homeless someone else's problem and i dont think many people would be willing to step up.

a little while ago i got really into a youtube channel that interviews homeless people and one of the things many of them said when asked why they were sleeping outside instead of checking into a shelter was that outside was preferable due to the shelters being pretty dangerous.

its just a really hard situation, you can do smaller things, like decriminalizing drugs, that might help, but i think in a modern society that gets more complex every day, its a really hard problem to solve.

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Romulox28 posted...

the problem i see with giving housing to the homeless is that i dont think a lot of them are mentally equipped to manage a home, this just makes the homeless someone else's problem and i dont think many people would be willing to step up.

averagejoel posted...

free universal healthcare, including mental healthcare.

it's not rocket science here

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averagejoel posted...

cops have much higher rates of domestic abuse than the general population

Ok?

Thats completely unrelated to me. If I speed In my mustang at home that doesnt mean everybody gets a pass because its not in my interest?

what would a cop care about some random persons situation

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with respect to drifters and future drifters, permitting their families to have them institutionalized if they meet the right criteria from a mental health standpoint, regardless of whether or not they pose a physical threat to themselves or others

also, expansion of drug/alcohol rehabilitation services

with respect to the working homeless, cutting red tape barring the construction of affordable high-density housing, and constructing affordable high-density housing - alleviating the property tax burden would also go a long way with respect to this

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