Current Events > Sooo, what's the actual solution to homelessness?

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I dont live in la or ca

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1) sure that's the headline
2) why'd you even bring up a different city in the first place then

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Because thats the city that has the biggest problem in the country

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darkprince45 posted...

The only solution is putting money it. Its just one of those things you cant escape. It just sucks tho.My plan would be to legalize all drug use. And then like a movie world. Build giant communities a decent length away from normal metro areas. There, they have housing, onsite medical, rehab,. Mental services, jobs, education, and security on site. And thats your option. Being homeless out in the cities is an instant bring you back there. Its not permanent, but if someone is mentally unstable to go back into civilized humanity, then they can live there. If not the goal is to bring them in, churn them out back into society. Then one day back in society they will be taxed a little more for using a ton of money for this project

And just who are you expecting to take care of these drug addicts possibly for life? Ignoring the complete degeneration of society and the ovefludding of your communities that will surely follow....what reason would most of them have to return to normal society and quit drugs if you're providing them with all their basic humanly needs?

Humans will always follow the path of least resistance.

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Rexdragon125 posted...

Build affordable homes

Every builder wants to make hundreds of thousands of dollars on homes

Build one yourself if the thing in the way is builders wanting to make hundreds of thousands. Let's see you put your money where your mouth is.

I feel like the solution is probably to address whatever it is that puts people into that situation in the first place

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darkprince45 posted...

Because thats the city that has the biggest problem in the country

there are still more empty homes in LA than there are homeless people. this suggests that the problem is, in fact, with the people who own said homes

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hockeybub89 posted...

I feel like the solution is probably to address whatever it is that puts people into that situation in the first place

That is part of it, but there are lots of reasons people can end up homeless. Parents kicking out their kids just before they can get their feet into the world, medical bills, layoffs, rent and needed expenses keep going up, drug addiction, etc.

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Prismsblade posted...

And just who are you expecting to take care of these drug addicts possibly for life? Ignoring the complete degeneration of society and the ovefludding of your communities that will surely follow....what reason would most of them have to return to normal society and quit drugs if you're providing them with all their basic humanly needs?

Humans will always follow the path of least resistance.

Well then, its a win win. Theyre disrupting normal human flow and theyre in their own area if they refuse to get better

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@Loud_Pipes Is your position really that we can or should only do things that make a substantial profit on the market? Even at the expense of health, safety, and human potential? That's a very limiting moral principle. If that's what capitalism causes, maybe that's why young people are turning away from it.

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I know this will not be seen but I think people should realize that homelessness isn't due to a lack of housing.

It a lack of affordable housing, meaning that there are already plenty of homes where people could stay, but the way the market works means that most people can't afford these homes anyway, and thus affordable housing is always a subset of housing, and not the main function.

What I'm trying to say is that homelessness has no solution so long as homes cost money.
Inversely homelessness has an intrinsic value to the price of a home, and thus the more homeless people there are the more likelihood of profit to be made from owning real estate.


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Maybe we could try tax cuts for the very wealthy.

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legendary_zell posted...

@Loud_Pipes Is your position really that we can or should only do things that make a substantial profit on the market? Even at the expense of health, safety, and human potential? That's a very limiting moral principle. If that's what capitalism causes, maybe that's why young people are turning away from it.

I didn't say that. Some things have to be done as a government investment that will eventually create more economic activity later on, like roads and bridges.

What I was getting at was that if he thinks the problem is that builders are making homes so they can make hundreds of thousands in profit per home, he should put his money where his mouth is and build homes for a quarter of the profit. If the profit is actually the issue.

Spoiler alert: it actually isn't. This isn't like during the housing bubble. You can't just make hundreds of thousands from building most houses anymore.

Loud_Pipes posted...

I didn't say that. Some things have to be done as a government investment that will eventually create more economic activity later on, like roads and bridges.

What I was getting at was that if he thinks the problem is that builders are making homes so they can make hundreds of thousands in profit per home, he should put his money where his mouth is and build homes for a quarter of the profit. If the profit is actually the issue.

Spoiler alert: it actually isn't. This isn't like during the housing bubble. You can't just make hundreds of thousands from building most houses anymore.

This topic is about the solution, and that poster is saying the solution, and you seem to be agreeing with the solution, but then you do the whole "why don't you do it yourself" thing. That's not relevant or a real suggestion. This problem is gonna be solved through government regulation and and government subsidized building, not through random people setting an example.

The profit motive is the problem here. There is already more than enough housing for a people, but if people can't get a profit from renting out that housing, they'd rather step over people dying in the street than house people. It's never going to be profitable to house people with no money, so the only options are to confiscate the housing, to incentive current landlords to give housing to the homeless, or to build new housing without the expectation of profit. All three are gonna be done by the government, not individuals.

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legendary_zell posted...

This topic is about the solution, and that poster is saying the solution, and you seem to be agreeing with the solution, but then you do the whole "why don't you do it yourself" thing. That's not relevant or a real suggestion. This problem is gonna be solved through government regulation and and government subsidized building, not through random people setting an example.

The profit motive is the problem here. There is already more than enough housing for a people, but if people can't get a profit from renting out that housing, they'd rather step over people dying in the street than house people. It's never going to be profitable to house people with no money, so the only options are to confiscate the housing, to incentive current landlords to give housing to the homeless, or to build new housing without the expectation of profit. All three are gonna be done by the government, not individuals.

pssssssst. that's ProudClad

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