Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 249: Phase 1 of a scheduled topic series

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NFUN 11/19/19 1:03:07 PM #1:	Phase 2 will be done in a few months --- Thus is our treaty written; thus is our agreement made. Thought it the arrow of time; memory never fades. What was asked for was given; the price is paid <cite>NFUN posted [p:930374133] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Phase 2 will be done in a few months</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 1:05:05 PM #2:	https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/19/us/jeffrey-epstein-guard-charge/index.html Did someone say "conspiracy" --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930374237] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/19/us/jeffrey-epstein-guard-charge/index.html Did someone say "conspiracy" </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/19/19 1:06:41 PM #3:	Manchin is a vote for a Democratic Senate Majority Leader (aka not McConnell) and therefore even if he takes some bad votes (that don't matter even if many of them still aggravate the hell out of me, he's reliably with the rest of the caucus when his vote is necessary) he's a net good --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:930374314] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Manchin is a vote for a Democratic Senate Majority Leader (aka not McConnell) and therefore even if he takes some bad votes (that don't matter even if many of them still aggravate the hell out of me, he's reliably with the rest of the caucus when his vote is necessary) he's a net good</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/19/19 1:09:51 PM #4:	Corrik7 posted... https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/19/us/jeffrey-epstein-guard-charge/index.html Did someone say "conspiracy" No no no, Prisons and Prison Guards are historically VERY GOOD, and obviously it was very smart to trust that what they said happened, happened. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:930374472] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/11/19/us/jeffrey-epstein-guard-charge/index.html Did someone say "conspiracy"</quote> No no no, Prisons and Prison Guards are historically VERY GOOD, and obviously it was very smart to trust that what they said happened, happened. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/19/19 1:12:48 PM #5:	xp1337 posted... Manchin is a vote for a Democratic Senate Majority Leader (aka not McConnell) and therefore even if he takes some bad votes (that don't matter even if many of them still aggravate the hell out of me, he's reliably with the rest of the caucus when his vote is necessary) Since that seat is lost forever much like the OH seat Brown has if he's not the one running for it he's a net good. I disagree but understand your view. --- Sir Chris Doom The Kanto Saga - Animated Series - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH4wNFCrLM <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:930374646] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted... </cite> <quote>Manchin is a vote for a Democratic Senate Majority Leader (aka not McConnell) and therefore even if he takes some bad votes (that don't matter even if many of them still aggravate the hell out of me, he's reliably with the rest of the caucus when his vote is necessary) Since that seat is lost forever much like the OH seat Brown has if he's not the one running for it he's a net good.</quote> I disagree but understand your view. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
xp1337 11/19/19 1:20:44 PM #6:	Like if we're talking about (future) Senators that annoy me more than Manchin, I'd say Hickenlooper is a good example. Manchin is the only Democrat who can hold that seat. Colorado could elect someone better than Hickenlooper but he's already cleared out a bunch of the primary field there. Basically, my philosophy is "try to run the person as left as you can provided they can win." Obviously that's tricky because there will always be disagreement about how far you can go in any given race but I'd like to think that places like WV and OH can be recognized as places that are basically lost and only held by the power of incumbency and local credibility built up before they were lost. And that somewhere like CO against Gardner you could run someone to the left of Hickenlooper and still win easily. Maybe not as big but you still wouldn't be sweating it. Like yeah, there are counter-arguments like being able to win big means you can allocate resources in a more focused way or concern that you're inviting 2016 v2 on yourself and those are valid but I also think it's possible to identify seats that are bluer than the representative holding the seat. Those are the people who should be primaried, not the ones who are holding red seats against all sense. Look at deep blue seats for primary challenges first. AOC is kind of the best case scenario for this. --- xp1337: Don't you wish there was a spell-checker that told you when you a word out? <cite>xp1337 posted [p:930375052] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Like if we're talking about (future) Senators that annoy me more than Manchin, I'd say Hickenlooper is a good example. Manchin is the only Democrat who can hold that seat. Colorado could elect someone better than Hickenlooper but he's already cleared out a bunch of the primary field there. Basically, my philosophy is "try to run the person as left as you can provided they can win." Obviously that's tricky because there will always be disagreement about how far you can go in any given race but I'd like to think that places like WV and OH can be recognized as places that are basically lost and only held by the power of incumbency and local credibility built up before they were lost. And that somewhere like CO against Gardner you could run someone to the left of Hickenlooper and still win easily. Maybe not as big but you still wouldn't be sweating it. Like yeah, there are counter-arguments like being able to win big means you can allocate resources in a more focused way or concern that you're inviting 2016 v2 on yourself and those are valid but I also think it's possible to identify seats that are bluer than the representative holding the seat. Those are the people who should be primaried, not the ones who are holding red seats against all sense. Look at deep blue seats for primary challenges first. AOC is kind of the best case scenario for this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 11/19/19 1:34:50 PM #7:	Corrik7 posted... Everyone should be pushed and instilled with patriotism from a very young age. So some questions about this post from the last topic. (Note I am seeking to understand here, not to convince you of anything) --When you say "everyone", do you mean every American or just all people in general? And then so for citizens of other countries should they be taught American patriotism because America is the best country ever, or should they be taught patriotism for their own country because countries need to have some kind of national identity? Or some other scenario I haven't thought of? --What happens when someone moves from one country to another, say as a result of work? Should they still retain their patriotism to their country of origin even if they are not returning there in the forseeable future? --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever <cite>pyresword posted [p:930375788] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone should be pushed and instilled with patriotism from a very young age. </quote> So some questions about this post from the last topic. (Note I am seeking to understand here, not to convince you of anything) --When you say "everyone", do you mean every American or just all people in general? And then so for citizens of other countries should they be taught American patriotism because America is the best country ever, or should they be taught patriotism for their own country because countries need to have some kind of national identity? Or some other scenario I haven't thought of? --What happens when someone moves from one country to another, say as a result of work? Should they still retain their patriotism to their country of origin even if they are not returning there in the forseeable future?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/19/19 1:38:14 PM #8:	xp1337 posted... it's possible to identify seats that are bluer than the representative holding the seat. Those are the people who should be primaried, not the ones who are holding red seats against all sense. ^^^^^^^^^^ <cite>Reg posted [p:930375938] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>xp1337 posted...</cite> <quote>it's possible to identify seats that are bluer than the representative holding the seat. Those are the people who should be primaried, not the ones who are holding red seats against all sense.</quote> ^^^^^^^^^^</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 1:52:10 PM #9:	Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930376569] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lopen 11/19/19 2:05:36 PM #10:	Tags, mother fucker, do you speak it? --- No problem! This is a cute and pop genocide of love! <cite>Lopen posted [p:930377180] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Tags, mother fucker, do you speak it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/19/19 2:21:16 PM #11:	https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1196849987616956416 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:930377955] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/gregpmiller/status/1196849987616956416 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 2:48:40 PM #12:	Jakyl25 posted... Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children Is teaching your children to be good brainwashing them? You should want to instill good values in your children. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930379376] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children</quote>Is teaching your children to be good brainwashing them? You should want to instill good values in your children. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/19/19 2:50:06 PM #13:	This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this. <cite>Reg posted [p:930379448] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 2:50:51 PM #14:	pyresword posted... So some questions about this post from the last topic. (Note I am seeking to understand here, not to convince you of anything) --When you say "everyone", do you mean every American or just all people in general? And then so for citizens of other countries should they be taught American patriotism because America is the best country ever, or should they be taught patriotism for their own country because countries need to have some kind of national identity? Or some other scenario I haven't thought of? --What happens when someone moves from one country to another, say as a result of work? Should they still retain their patriotism to their country of origin even if they are not returning there in the forseeable future? Americans. Children in their own countries should be taught to have patriotism in their own countries. If you don't feel your country is worth being patriotic in, then you should be trying to move from said country. People with dual allegiances and dual citizenships should be patriotic for both. You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930379487] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>pyresword posted... </cite> <quote>So some questions about this post from the last topic. (Note I am seeking to understand here, not to convince you of anything) --When you say "everyone", do you mean every American or just all people in general? And then so for citizens of other countries should they be taught American patriotism because America is the best country ever, or should they be taught patriotism for their own country because countries need to have some kind of national identity? Or some other scenario I haven't thought of? --What happens when someone moves from one country to another, say as a result of work? Should they still retain their patriotism to their country of origin even if they are not returning there in the forseeable future?</quote>Americans. Children in their own countries should be taught to have patriotism in their own countries. If you don't feel your country is worth being patriotic in, then you should be trying to move from said country. People with dual allegiances and dual citizenships should be patriotic for both. You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ashethan 11/19/19 2:51:06 PM #15:	I hear North Korea is really good at instilling patriotism in children from a very young age. My oldest daughter refuses to stand for the pledge. And I say good for her. --- Board 8 Mafia Archive: ashchive.altervista.org <cite>Ashethan posted [p:930379501] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>I hear North Korea is really good at instilling patriotism in children from a very young age. My oldest daughter refuses to stand for the pledge. And I say good for her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/19/19 2:51:25 PM #16:	https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1196875295179124736 --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:930379517] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1196875295179124736 </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 2:52:02 PM #17:	Ashethan posted... I hear North Korea is really good at instilling patriotism in children from a very young age. My oldest daughter refuses to stand for the pledge. And I say good for her. Something to be truly proud of. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930379547] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Ashethan posted... </cite> <quote>I hear North Korea is really good at instilling patriotism in children from a very young age. My oldest daughter refuses to stand for the pledge. And I say good for her.</quote>Something to be truly proud of. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/19/19 2:52:20 PM #18:	Reg posted... This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this. what boomer nonsense is this This is like saying locking your door is bad because you could be doing murders in there --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:930379560] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote>This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this.</quote> what boomer nonsense is this This is like saying locking your door is bad because you could be doing murders in there </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 2:59:59 PM #19:	Saw that South Korea signed a defense agreement with China due to US demands on troop pay. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930379946] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Saw that South Korea signed a defense agreement with China due to US demands on troop pay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:01:12 PM #20:	https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/18/china-signs-defence-agreement-south-korea-us-angers-seoul-demand/ --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930380013] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/11/18/china-signs-defence-agreement-south-korea-us-angers-seoul-demand/ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PerfectChaosZ 11/19/19 3:04:21 PM #21:	Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. <cite>PerfectChaosZ posted [p:930380156] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/19/19 3:04:38 PM #22:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Reg posted... This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this. what boomer nonsense is this This is like saying locking your door is bad because you could be doing murders in there Ya, that's a good analogy for it. Will say that if a ban on encryption (or mandatory built-in exploits, which is essentially the same thing) come to pass, I probably quit using the internet for anything that even tangentially involves money or less-than-anonymous services, even knowing that I already use the internet under the assumption that everything I do and every page I visit is warehoused by as many intelligence agencies (both US and abroad) and corporations as can get their hands on it. Also the modern banking industry would either collapse or massively restructure to accomodate, because good crypto is the only thing ensuring your transactions and accounts aren't tampered with by bad actors. Tech industry would probably collapse too. <cite>Reg posted [p:930380170] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted...</cite> <quote>Reg posted... </cite> <quote>This isn't strictly US, but https://www.reuters.com/article/us-interpol-encryption-exclusive-idUSKBN1XR0S7 Shame on Interpol, and every law enforcement/intelligence agency that supports this.</quote> what boomer nonsense is this This is like saying locking your door is bad because you could be doing murders in there </quote> Ya, that's a good analogy for it. Will say that if a ban on encryption (or mandatory built-in exploits, which is essentially the same thing) come to pass, I probably quit using the internet for anything that even tangentially involves money or less-than-anonymous services, even knowing that I already use the internet under the assumption that everything I do and every page I visit is warehoused by as many intelligence agencies (both US and abroad) and corporations as can get their hands on it. Also the modern banking industry would either collapse or massively restructure to accomodate, because good crypto is the only thing ensuring your transactions and accounts aren't tampered with by bad actors. Tech industry would probably collapse too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reg 11/19/19 3:06:48 PM #23:	PerfectChaosZ posted... Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. Also yeah, anybody in favor of doing this is a fucking moron. Like, it blows my mind that anybody could look at autocratic countries both now and historically that did literally that exact thing and think it's a good idea. Unless they're literal fascists, at least. Then I could understand it. <cite>Reg posted [p:930380267] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted...</cite> <quote>Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. </quote> Also yeah, anybody in favor of doing this is a fucking moron. Like, it blows my mind that anybody could look at autocratic countries both now and historically that did literally that exact thing and think it's a good idea. Unless they're literal fascists, at least. Then I could understand it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HeroDelTiempo17 11/19/19 3:11:01 PM #24:	PerfectChaosZ posted... Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. Hotter take: where do you think Nazi Germany got their ideas from? --- DPOblivion was far more determined than me. <cite>HeroDelTiempo17 posted [p:930380471] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted... </cite> <quote>Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it.</quote> Hotter take: where do you think Nazi Germany got their ideas from? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/19/19 3:12:51 PM #25:	Just a reminder Manchin is awesome as the senator from WV. Hed be a disaster like anywhere else but hes the fourth most important democratic senator based on how often you expect a senator from the state to vote for Trump. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ Feel free to nominate another D in WV and watch then lose by double digits. (I understand why Chris doesnt like Manchin but hes way too important to run him out of the party) --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:930380559] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Just a reminder Manchin is awesome as the senator from WV. Hed be a disaster like anywhere else but hes the fourth most important democratic senator based on how often you expect a senator from the state to vote for Trump. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/ Feel free to nominate another D in WV and watch then lose by double digits. (I understand why Chris doesnt like Manchin but hes way too important to run him out of the party)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:14:04 PM #26:	PerfectChaosZ posted... Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930380616] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted... </cite> <quote>Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it.</quote>Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Suprak the Stud 11/19/19 3:15:57 PM #27:	Thats also a great reminder of how awesome Tester/Brown are. Testers number is incredible there. --- Moops? "I thought you were making up diseases? That's spontaneous dental hydroplosion." <cite>Suprak the Stud posted [p:930380703] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Thats also a great reminder of how awesome Tester/Brown are. Testers number is incredible there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Grimlyn 11/19/19 3:17:04 PM #28:	https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1196855400232083457 --- https://gmun.moe/ffcc GuessMyUserName's account's very own account! <cite>Grimlyn posted [p:930380766] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1196855400232083457</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ChaosTonyV4 11/19/19 3:27:02 PM #29:	Corrik7 posted... Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol. Explain to me the specific benefits of educating kids that Patriotism is good. --- Phantom Dust. "I'll just wait for time to prove me right again." - Vlado <cite>ChaosTonyV4 posted [p:930381211] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted... </cite> <quote>Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol.</quote> Explain to me the specific benefits of educating kids that Patriotism is good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nrrr 11/19/19 3:32:54 PM #30:	HeroDelTiempo17 posted... Hotter take: where do you think Nazi Germany got their ideas from? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip <cite>Nrrr posted [p:930381484] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>HeroDelTiempo17 posted... </cite> <quote>Hotter take: where do you think Nazi Germany got their ideas from?</quote> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:36:15 PM #31:	Corrik7 posted... PerfectChaosZ posted... Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it. Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol. Uhhh what did then? Maybe you can make a distinction between patriotism and nationalism, but its a fine line here --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930381625] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>PerfectChaosZ posted... </cite> <quote>Hot Take but we found out instilling blind unquestioning patriotism in kids was bad when Germany did it.</quote>Patriotism in your country didn't cause Hitler and the Nazi party. Get out of here with that "hot take" lol. </quote> Uhhh what did then? Maybe you can make a distinction between patriotism and nationalism, but its a fine line here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DoomTheGyarados 11/19/19 3:37:11 PM #32:	Also don't take my complaining as not knowing the climate in WV. But I doubt WV would suddenly turn on Manchin for his democratic nominee choice. --- Sir Chris Doom The Kanto Saga - Animated Series - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hH4wNFCrLM <cite>DoomTheGyarados posted [p:930381680] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Also don't take my complaining as not knowing the climate in WV. But I doubt WV would suddenly turn on Manchin for his democratic nominee choice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:38:23 PM #33:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children Is teaching your children to be good brainwashing them? You should want to instill good values in your children. Hopefully you teach them WHY they should be good, not just threaten them with punishment if theyre not. Its absolutely fine to teach kids about American history, warts and all, and let them decide how much allegiance they want to give the country. Its beyond sick to start every day in school with the pledge of allegiance propaganda --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930381728] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Corrik literally arguing for brainwashing children</quote>Is teaching your children to be good brainwashing them? You should want to instill good values in your children. </quote> Hopefully you teach them WHY they should be good, not just threaten them with punishment if theyre not. Its absolutely fine to teach kids about American history, warts and all, and let them decide how much allegiance they want to give the country. Its beyond sick to start every day in school with the pledge of allegiance propaganda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pyresword 11/19/19 3:38:41 PM #34:	I would agree that blind patriotism allowed the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, but I would not say that it caused their rise. --- Oh woops. Putting Advokaiser in my sig like this until I think of something more clever <cite>pyresword posted [p:930381750] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>I would agree that blind patriotism allowed the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, but I would not say that it caused their rise.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:40:24 PM #35:	pyresword posted... I would agree that blind patriotism allowed the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, but I would not say that it caused their rise. I guess allowed is closer to what I meant. They let someone prey on their patriotism and lead them down a road to genocide in the name of putting their country first --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930381842] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>pyresword posted...</cite> <quote>I would agree that blind patriotism allowed the rise of Hitler and the Nazi party, but I would not say that it caused their rise.</quote> I guess allowed is closer to what I meant. They let someone prey on their patriotism and lead them down a road to genocide in the name of putting their country first</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:43:19 PM #36:	Jakyl25 posted... Uhhh what did then? Maybe you can make a distinction between patriotism and nationalism, but its a fine line here Hitler's rise was absolutely a reaction to the inept government and burdened state that Germany was left in from WW1 which allowed Hitler to seize upon this to assign blame outside of the nation to bring them to heel. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930381977] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Uhhh what did then? Maybe you can make a distinction between patriotism and nationalism, but its a fine line here</quote>Hitler's rise was absolutely a reaction to the inept government and burdened state that Germany was left in from WW1 which allowed Hitler to seize upon this to assign blame outside of the nation to bring them to heel. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr Lasastryke 11/19/19 3:44:44 PM #37:	Corrik7 posted... You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with? --- Geothermal terpsichorean ejectamenta <cite>Mr Lasastryke posted [p:930382050] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. </quote> why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:45:23 PM #38:	Corrik7 posted... which allowed Hitler to seize upon this to assign blame outside of the nation to bring them to heel. That doesnt work if theyre not patriotic though and specifically believe in the dignity of Germany, the nation --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382076] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>which allowed Hitler to seize upon this to assign blame outside of the nation to bring them to heel.</quote> That doesnt work if theyre not patriotic though and specifically believe in the dignity of Germany, the nation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:45:51 PM #39:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Corrik7 posted... You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with? Its like the definition of boot licking --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382094] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. </quote> why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with?</quote> Its like the definition of boot licking</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:46:23 PM #40:	Jakyl25 posted... That doesnt work if theyre not patriotic though and specifically believe in the dignity of Germany, the nation Not sure if serious. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930382116] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>That doesnt work if theyre not patriotic though and specifically believe in the dignity of Germany, the nation</quote>Not sure if serious. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:49:14 PM #41:	Very serious. Blaming other countries and ethnic groups for your countrys problems in that situation is exactly the peril that comes with nationalism --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382252] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Very serious. Blaming other countries and ethnic groups for your countrys problems in that situation is exactly the peril that comes with nationalism</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LordoftheMorons 11/19/19 3:50:00 PM #42:	Too lazy to type up a post about it so Im just gonna link to the relevant SMBC https://smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction --- Congrats to Advokaiser for winning the CBX Guru Challenge! <cite>LordoftheMorons posted [p:930382282] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Too lazy to type up a post about it so Im just gonna link to the relevant SMBC https://smbc-comics.com/comic/an-important-distinction </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:52:45 PM #43:	The first panel doesnt really make sense --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382409] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>The first panel doesnt really make sense</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:53:55 PM #44:	Jakyl25 posted... Very serious. Blaming other countries and ethnic groups for your countrys problems in that situation is exactly the peril that comes with nationalism They are the countries that imposed the Treaty upon them and the stipulations... lol... what --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930382466] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Very serious. Blaming other countries and ethnic groups for your countrys problems in that situation is exactly the peril that comes with nationalism</quote>They are the countries that imposed the Treaty upon them and the stipulations... lol... what </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 3:58:04 PM #45:	Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382663] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 11/19/19 3:58:37 PM #46:	Mr Lasastryke posted... Corrik7 posted... You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with? Conservatives love to give themselves pats on the back for being the jizz of someone who did do something that they're proud of, though! The ultimate participation trophies. --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:930382687] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Mr Lasastryke posted...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>You should be proud and support the country that gives you the opportunity to live your life. </quote> why should i take pride in accomplishments i had absolutely nothing to do with?</quote> Conservatives love to give themselves pats on the back for being the jizz of someone who did do something that they're proud of, though! The ultimate participation trophies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Corrik7 11/19/19 3:59:05 PM #47:	Jakyl25 posted... Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something WW1 terms and its effects on Germany coupled with installing an inept government caused the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler. --- Xbox Live User Name - Corrik Currently playing: Division 2 <cite>Corrik7 posted [p:930382705] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something</quote>WW1 terms and its effects on Germany coupled with installing an inept government caused the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Peace___Frog 11/19/19 3:59:56 PM #48:	But corrik, they were only enforcing the laws! --- ~Peaf~ <cite>Peace___Frog posted [p:930382748] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>But corrik, they were only enforcing the laws!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 4:01:11 PM #49:	Corrik7 posted... Jakyl25 posted... Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something WW1 terms and its effects on Germany coupled with installing an inept government caused the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler. So Hitler seized upon a legitimate grievance to gain control and then used that power to be a nationalist despot Hmmm... --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382806] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>Corrik7 posted...</cite> <quote>Jakyl25 posted... </cite> <quote>Okay so then the WW1 victors caused the rise of the Nazis then? If youre not gonna blame German nationalism you have to blame something</quote>WW1 terms and its effects on Germany coupled with installing an inept government caused the conditions that led to the rise of Hitler. </quote> So Hitler seized upon a legitimate grievance to gain control and then used that power to be a nationalist despot Hmmm...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jakyl25 11/19/19 4:04:11 PM #50:	At what point, in your opinion, did Hitler step over the line? Was it just when he started invading other countries? --- Thank you, Eddie Guerrero. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DRlKR5nU8AA_v_C?format=jpg&name=large <cite>Jakyl25 posted [p:930382925] in Politics C... [t:78176791]...</cite> <quote>At what point, in your opinion, did Hitler step over the line? Was it just when he started invading other countries?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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