Board 8 > Politics Containment Topic 237: You Never Go Ass to Monmouth

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Can we swear in Topic titles? Lets see

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As far as naming, it's mostly what the candidate chooses. They use first name if they want a lighter image or to emphasize something specific (like Beto's "Hispanic" heritage).
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i literally never heard the name Beto before ORourke. Is it really a Hispanic name or am I just too sheltered?

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I do think it may have been a mistake for Hillary to eschew the Clinton name. Bill is super popular because things were good when he was president, and he was known for working with Republicans. That could have helped to dispel Hillary's negative image.
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Jakyl25 posted...

i literally never heard the name Beto before ORourke. Is it really a Hispanic name or am I just too sheltered?

It might not be. Beto isn't Hispanic. If his name sounds like an attempt to make Robert sound Hispanic.....it could be!
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Then it would be Berto

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Can confirm that men name Robert and Roberto have gone by 'Beto. It's usually on a more informal and friendly basis though. Not something you would usually put on a business card or use professionally.

(Source: Fresno is 48% Hispanic, about 10% higher than the California average)
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so my middle name qualifies me for being called Beto then huh

the more you know
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The only Hispanic Robert I know goes by Berto with an r.
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I mean I hadn't heard it before either but it is a Spanish/Portguese shortening of Roberto/Robert, among other names.
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I'm a Roberto but for Italian reasons :(

(Roberto-Tomba anyways and I like the Tomba part better)
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https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/vb5d7y/joe-biden-medicare-for-all-would-be-an-insult-to-my-dead-son

Extremely clickbait headline, but Joes new campaign ad is basically Look, my kids had healthcare, and it would have been awful if they didnt. I want everyone to have affordable healthcare, but only by building on Obamacare or something?

I dont know, its not very convincing.
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Biden absolutely loves shielding himself with people who aren't in a position to decline. It's just the only thing he's capable of doing.
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I'd like to continue getting mad at Biden's shitty messaging and Obamacare fearmongering but honestly? The way his speeches have been going I can't even tell anymore if it's deliberate misinformation or if he actually believes that other health plans will ruin healthcare.
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You could definitely fuck up a ton of peoples' healthcare with a poorly implemented version of M4A.

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Grimlyn posted...

I'm a Roberto but for Italian reasons :(

(Roberto-Tomba anyways and I like the Tomba part better)

Who doesn't love Tomba?
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1166382203808440320

So inconsiderate of Puerto Rico to decide to be hit by another hurricane without considering how it would affect their favorite president!

(And it goes without saying that the 92 billion dollar thing is a lie. That was the estimated cost of the damages; Congress approved less than half of that and iirc like 14 billion or something has been disbursed).

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I believe Beto was the nickname given to O'Rourke by his grandma, he once tweeted a pic of him at age 5 with a nametag that said "Beto" on it so I don't think he's just using the name to get brownie points with Hispanic voters.
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ZenOfThunder posted...

I believe Beto was the nickname given to O'Rourke by his grandma, he once tweeted a pic of him at age 5 with a nametag that said "Beto" on it so I don't think he's just using the name to get brownie points with Hispanic voters.

Betos grandma was just playing the long game
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Comic book villains:

https://twitter.com/shepherd_kt/status/1166342991570710528?s=21

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TheRock1525 posted...

Who doesn't love Tomba?

certainly not rexcowbam
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LordoftheMorons posted...

You could definitely fuck up a ton of peoples' healthcare with a poorly implemented version of M4A.

You could also give people without healthcare healthcare with even a mediocre version of M4A.

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LordoftheMorons posted...

Comic book villains:

https://twitter.com/shepherd_kt/status/1166342991570710528?s=21

their immigration strategy is literally be so cruel people don't want to immigrate here.
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I mean, someone in the administration admitted the intent behind the policies was to act as a deterrent from the start, right?

and then walked it back but probably had it reiterated later
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LordoftheMorons posted...

Comic book villains:

https://twitter.com/shepherd_kt/status/1166342991570710528?s=21

And more:
https://twitter.com/cnnbrk/status/1166440818514833414

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And they keep coming. This one is impeachable as fuck:

https://twitter.com/Walldo/status/1166530229835194371

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TBQH, if that's illegal so was DACA. It's one thing to exercise prosecutorial discretion not to prosecute someone out of a lack of resources, its another to go out to actively tell people they may break the law with impunity.
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If you guys want more fun election news, starting at the end of the month, the FEC will lack a quorum and be unable to do much of anything thanks to McConnell and the GOP Senate letting vacancies stay... vacant... for years now.
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xp1337 posted...

If you guys want more fun election news, starting at the end of the month, the FEC will lack a quorum and be unable to do much of anything thanks to McConnell and the GOP Senate letting vacancies stay... vacant... for years now.

Well the whole FEC is probably unconstitutional anyway right? After all corporations are people and money is speech.
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/alabama-gop-resolution-ilhan-omar-expelled-congress

"Rep. Omar is ungrateful to the United States and the opportunities that have been afforded to her," Hanes said.

Jeeze dude this is beyond dog whistle

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https://twitter.com/RobertMaguire_/status/1166539930891370501

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https://twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1166382604150607872?s=19

Tldr: Biden crushing, Bernie the only one within a stone's throw of catching him.

I guess Bernie just needs to find more free stuff to promise! Everyone gets an iPad?
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Finally, an election poll that asks who is Jeff Pilled.

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https://twitter.com/ThePlumLineGS/status/1166654070721040385

Yeah that Monmouth poll was an outlier. Biden wrecking Sanders and Warren here.
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Also it's becoming very clear that having both Bernie and Warren in the field is splitting the progressive vote to the point where they are given Biden an easy path to victory.

If Warren drops out to make room for Bernie, then she is basically guaranteed to be his VP, right? Zero chance Bernie is the bigger man and drops out for her though.
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I don't see that happening until just before the state primaries begin, only only if polling maintains it's current levels. We should be down to 5 or less candidates by then so we'll have a lot more information about who gained what as the field narrows.
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The Queen has agreed to suspend Parliament

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Also it's becoming very clear that having both Bernie and Warren in the field is splitting the progressive vote to the point where they are given Biden an easy path to victory.

Oddly enough, Sanders and Warren aren't really splitting the same voters. In fact, the polls say that Biden is the most common second choice for Sanders supporters.
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Jakyl25 posted...

The Queen has agreed to suspend Parliament

Wait, so is this the legal equivalent of taking a knee to run out the clock?

Why is this a thing?

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Is this basically done to ensure a no-deal Brexit?
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Xeybozn posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Also it's becoming very clear that having both Bernie and Warren in the field is splitting the progressive vote to the point where they are given Biden an easy path to victory.

Oddly enough, Sanders and Warren aren't really splitting the same voters. In fact, the polls say that Biden is the most common second choice for Sanders supporters.

I find that to be hard to believe that the two most "serious" leftist presidential candidates in a century aren't overlapping voter bases at all.
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TheRock1525 posted...

Is this basically done to ensure a no-deal Brexit?

Yep. Brexit is happening.
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

I find that to be hard to believe that the two most "serious" leftist presidential candidates in a century aren't overlapping voter bases at all.

I said it a couple days ago most voters are almost completely uninformed right now.

All they get are a few soundbites on TV.

So the Biden/Bernie thing is probable more race and gender to people than anything at this point.

Nelson_Mandela posted...

I find that to be hard to believe that the two most "serious" leftist presidential candidates in a century aren't overlapping voter bases at all.

They are significantly, around 20%, but Bernie overlaps more with Biden for second choice, and Warren overlaps more with Harris. That's closer to 30% overlap.

So if Harris wants to drop out too, that's fine.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Jakyl25 posted...

The Queen has agreed to suspend Parliament

Wait, so is this the legal equivalent of taking a knee to run out the clock?

Why is this a thing?

That is precisely what is happening because the unelected prime minister knows parliament will fight him to stop a no-deal Brexit so he is removing them from the equation. There is still around a week before this is actually implemented and there's a chance there's an attempt to topple the government before it goes through.

Additionally the decision is being challenged in the courts.
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Holy fuck, the hits keep coming:

https://twitter.com/talkopan/status/1166763230703837187?s=21

(Also extremely unconstitutional)

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What the fuck, Britain

Also, good topic title
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Destroying their democracy in order to fulfill a democratically-ratified decision

Dem Brits are always good with that dry irony
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I mean, officially they are a monarchy.

And if Parliament doesn't like this, can't they have a vote of no confidence in the prime minister right now, before the prorogation happens in 2 weeks? Then the new PM can advise the Queen not to prorogue Parliament after all.
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https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1166723477879087104?s=21

Amazing how one person can so consistently be such a blatant piece of shit and still have 40% of the country support him

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