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Darmik 08/20/19 9:29:20 PM #202:	https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_in_film#Development - Cannon originally bought the movie rights in 1985 for $250k - Production and development issues stalled the movie for several years and Marvel nearly went bankrupt - Columbia Pictures (Sony) finally bought the rights in 1999 after trying to for 10 years - MGM disputed this saying they should have the rights through Cannon. - They made some sort of trade agreement with Bond and Spider-Man and the matter was finally solved --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926334434] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_in_film#Development - Cannon originally bought the movie rights in 1985 for $250k - Production and development issues stalled the movie for several years and Marvel nearly went bankrupt - Columbia Pictures (Sony) finally bought the rights in 1999 after trying to for 10 years - MGM disputed this saying they should have the rights through Cannon. - They made some sort of trade agreement with Bond and Spider-Man and the matter was finally solved </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 08/20/19 9:52:27 PM #203:	Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:926335400] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tired-Insomniac 08/20/19 9:52:54 PM #204:	Holy fuck this topic exploded --- "I like turtles" <cite>Tired-Insomniac posted [p:926335414] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Holy fuck this topic exploded</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/20/19 9:53:40 PM #205:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926335451] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 08/20/19 9:56:39 PM #206:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:926335588] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dat_Cracka_Jax 08/20/19 9:59:09 PM #207:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies. DarthAragorn posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney And? I don't see why they would give away rights again at this point unless they were getting what they want out of the deal --- http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/8131/flame201010170949481638.jpg http://img705.imageshack.us/img705/5517/cateyes.gif Rams: 7-9 <cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted [p:926335712] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies.</quote> DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney</quote> And? I don't see why they would give away rights again at this point unless they were getting what they want out of the deal</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doom_Art 08/20/19 10:03:20 PM #208:	I've seen some articles that came out in the last 40ish minutes that indicated that a deal is still being reached and another quoting a Sony rep who said the dispute is over a producer credit and that negotiations are ongoing Bottom line is nothing is official atm --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 https://imgur.com/mPvcy <cite>Doom_Art posted [p:926335920] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I've seen some articles that came out in the last 40ish minutes that indicated that a deal is still being reached and another quoting a Sony rep who said the dispute is over a producer credit and that negotiations are ongoing Bottom line is nothing is official atm</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 10:04:51 PM #209:	You know something? I'd rather have a continuation of the Sam Raimi films with 40-something Peter and MJ than have Spider-Man without Mary Jane. I'm... actually kinda happy about this. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926335976] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>You know something? I'd rather have a continuation of the Sam Raimi films with 40-something Peter and MJ than have Spider-Man without Mary Jane. I'm... actually kinda happy about this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlecSkorpio 08/20/19 10:05:28 PM #210:	Doom_Art posted... I've seen some articles that came out in the last 40ish minutes that indicated that a deal is still being reached and another quoting a Sony rep who said the dispute is over a producer credit and that negotiations are ongoing Bottom line is nothing is official atm IIRC weren't similar "talks have ended with nothing" articles written when Sony and Disney were first negotiating a deal? This will probably be much ado about nothing in the end. --- Christian Bale profited off the Iraq War <cite>AlecSkorpio posted [p:926336002] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Doom_Art posted...</cite> <quote>I've seen some articles that came out in the last 40ish minutes that indicated that a deal is still being reached and another quoting a Sony rep who said the dispute is over a producer credit and that negotiations are ongoing Bottom line is nothing is official atm</quote> IIRC weren't similar "talks have ended with nothing" articles written when Sony and Disney were first negotiating a deal? This will probably be much ado about nothing in the end.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/20/19 10:07:11 PM #211:	DarthAragorn posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney Nah bruh. I dont care how bad Sonys Amazing movies have been. Id rather have the rights not under Disney and have merely the potential for the occasional Raimi-tier film or Spider-Verse, than have the rights with Disney and doom the IP to eternal mediocrity. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:926336074] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney</quote> Nah bruh. I dont care how bad Sonys Amazing movies have been. Id rather have the rights not under Disney and have merely the potential for the occasional Raimi-tier film or Spider-Verse, than have the rights with Disney and doom the IP to eternal mediocrity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 08/20/19 10:07:41 PM #212:	Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Holy_Cloud105 posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies. DarthAragorn posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney And? I don't see why they would give away rights again at this point unless they were getting what they want out of the deal You asked why people are hating on Sony. We both gave you the reason. None of us care how much money Sony does or doesn't make from these movies. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:926336091] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies.</quote> DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney</quote> And? I don't see why they would give away rights again at this point unless they were getting what they want out of the deal</quote> You asked why people are hating on Sony. We both gave you the reason. None of us care how much money Sony does or doesn't make from these movies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bobaban 08/20/19 10:15:06 PM #214:	Fans lose. Really Spidey succeeded because of Disney. Garfield version and Venom were bad movies, very bland. Another Spider-Man reboot is going to be horrible. And Sony needs to do it to maintain rights. <cite>bobaban posted [p:926336404] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Fans lose. Really Spidey succeeded because of Disney. Garfield version and Venom were bad movies, very bland. Another Spider-Man reboot is going to be horrible. And Sony needs to do it to maintain rights. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TaiIs82 08/20/19 10:16:29 PM #215:	I would've been really supportive of this if not for Far From Home, which I enjoyed. The first one, not so much. I think it would've been better if they had dialed down on the cameos just for the sake of having them. They're in the same universe, we get it. --- Hero/Legend of 261. Lover of life,free speech,etc. http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1196- The man who cared too much. Providing trickle-down knowledge since 2009 <cite>TaiIs82 posted [p:926336468] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I would've been really supportive of this if not for Far From Home, which I enjoyed. The first one, not so much. I think it would've been better if they had dialed down on the cameos just for the sake of having them. They're in the same universe, we get it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 08/20/19 10:17:08 PM #216:	bobaban posted... Fans lose. Really Spidey succeeded because of Disney. Garfield version and Venom were bad movies, very bland. Another Spider-Man reboot is going to be horrible. And Sony needs to do it to maintain rights. Sonys film division is utter trash, too. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:926336495] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>bobaban posted...</cite> <quote>Fans lose. Really Spidey succeeded because of Disney. Garfield version and Venom were bad movies, very bland. Another Spider-Man reboot is going to be horrible. And Sony needs to do it to maintain rights. </quote> Sonys film division is utter trash, too.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SSMajinVegeta2 08/20/19 10:17:23 PM #217:	Dumb ass Sony. The newest Spidey was one of the best superhero movies ever. --- On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer. Satoru Iwata, 1959 - 2015 RIP GP God bless <cite>SSMajinVegeta2 posted [p:926336507] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Dumb ass Sony. The newest Spidey was one of the best superhero movies ever. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
sktgamer_13dude 08/20/19 10:22:57 PM #218:	AlisLandale posted... DarthAragorn posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney Nah bruh. I dont care how bad Sonys Amazing movies have been. Id rather have the rights not under Disney and have merely the potential for the occasional Raimi-tier film or Spider-Verse, than have the rights with Disney and doom the IP to eternal mediocrity. >implying the MCU Spiderman movies were mediocre Marvel should have the rights back though. Something like $4-6 billion. Star Wars went for $4 billion. Sony has some leverage. Or they can play nice. But Spiderman leaving the MCU is only gonna be bad for his character tbh. He doesnt need ANOTHER reboot and his current character history is deeply rooted in the MCU. I mean, can they talk about the Blip in a Sony movie? Who knows if Happy can be in it. Tony cant be mentioned at all. Like sure they have the cast on contract and all but to expect Sony to do a good Spiderman (live action) movie when they havent since 2004. --- https://imgur.com/jWVrg9U https://imgur.com/g2efUtT https://imgur.com/5dOwhaP https://imgur.com/LVdqu8J Go Cougs and M's #DI4B <cite>sktgamer_13dude posted [p:926336751] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>DarthAragorn posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Because Spider-Man movies have been better with Disney</quote> Nah bruh. I dont care how bad Sonys Amazing movies have been. Id rather have the rights not under Disney and have merely the potential for the occasional Raimi-tier film or Spider-Verse, than have the rights with Disney and doom the IP to eternal mediocrity.</quote> >implying the MCU Spiderman movies were mediocre Marvel should have the rights back though. Something like $4-6 billion. Star Wars went for $4 billion. Sony has some leverage. Or they can play nice. But Spiderman leaving the MCU is only gonna be bad for his character tbh. He doesnt need ANOTHER reboot and his current character history is deeply rooted in the MCU. I mean, can they talk about the Blip in a Sony movie? Who knows if Happy can be in it. Tony cant be mentioned at all. Like sure they have the cast on contract and all but to expect Sony to do a good Spiderman (live action) movie when they havent since 2004.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HylianFox 08/20/19 10:24:13 PM #219:	yeah, Sony is dogshit --- I like my beer cold, my TV loud, and my homosexuals FUH-LAMING! - Homer Simpson Don't be a turd. - Chris Pratt <cite>HylianFox posted [p:926336810] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>yeah, Sony is dogshit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 10:24:38 PM #220:	Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926336827] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/20/19 10:28:25 PM #221:	Darmik posted... Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man. The merch is more valuable than the movies at this point. I can easily see Sony doing a trade Spider-Man for Star-Wars where Disney leases the rights to the Merch and Sony owns everything else (including video games) --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:926336983] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man.</quote> The merch is more valuable than the movies at this point. I can easily see Sony doing a trade Spider-Man for Star-Wars where Disney leases the rights to the Merch and Sony owns everything else (including video games) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/20/19 10:29:17 PM #222:	The beauty is that both Sony and MCU have made multi-verses canon. If Sony was worried about keeping Holland, they could easily just let the live action films rest for a few years, maybe do some animated stuff, and come back with an original Spider-Man movie unconnected to anything. And it doesnt have to be branded as a reboot, its got multiverse clout now, so long as they stay the heck away from the origin lol. --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:926337022] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>The beauty is that both Sony and MCU have made multi-verses canon. If Sony was worried about keeping Holland, they could easily just let the live action films rest for a few years, maybe do some animated stuff, and come back with an original Spider-Man movie unconnected to anything. And it doesnt have to be branded as a reboot, its got multiverse clout now, so long as they stay the heck away from the origin lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 10:30:45 PM #223:	Tyranthraxus posted... Darmik posted... Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man. The merch is more valuable than the movies at this point. I can easily see Sony doing a trade Spider-Man for Star-Wars where Disney leases the rights to the Merch and Sony owns everything else (including video games) I think that would be a pretty bad deal for Disney. The biggest issue for this stuff is that neither of them really need it all that much. It's the fans who miss out. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926337079] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Tyranthraxus posted...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>Star Wars went for $4 billion because of merch. Disney already own everything but the movie rights for Spider-man.</quote> The merch is more valuable than the movies at this point. I can easily see Sony doing a trade Spider-Man for Star-Wars where Disney leases the rights to the Merch and Sony owns everything else (including video games) </quote> I think that would be a pretty bad deal for Disney. The biggest issue for this stuff is that neither of them really need it all that much. It's the fans who miss out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
I Like Toast 08/20/19 10:42:24 PM #224:	Holy_Cloud105 posted... Dat_Cracka_Jax posted... Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right? Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies. Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Asm 1&2 were fine and if the marvel deal didn't happen would have continued on. And venom still make 700-800 mil. Spiderman is better with the mcu, Sony has shown they can make movies. And quite frankly with what Disney choose to do with spiderman its more important does their narrative to have spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman being Tony's legacy is more important than spiderman. And the reception of multiverse and the appeal of Tom hardy leaves spiderman non mcu future fine. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all <cite>I Like Toast posted [p:926337527] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Holy_Cloud105 posted...</cite> <quote>Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...</cite> <quote>Why are people hating on Sony? Why would they want to let Disney keep making Spider-Man movies at this point unless the money was right?</quote> Sony has shown time and time again they don't know how to make live action superhero movies.</quote> Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Asm 1&2 were fine and if the marvel deal didn't happen would have continued on. And venom still make 700-800 mil. Spiderman is better with the mcu, Sony has shown they can make movies. And quite frankly with what Disney choose to do with spiderman its more important does their narrative to have spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman being Tony's legacy is more important than spiderman. And the reception of multiverse and the appeal of Tom hardy leaves spiderman non mcu future fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 08/20/19 10:44:17 PM #225:	I Like Toast posted... Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Almost 20 year old movies I Like Toast posted... Asm 1&2 were fine They were not. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:926337590] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this.</quote>Almost 20 year old movies I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Asm 1&2 were fine</quote>They were not. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tyranthraxus 08/20/19 10:44:32 PM #226:	Darmik posted... I think that would be a pretty bad deal for Disney. The biggest issue for this stuff is that neither of them really need it all that much. It's the fans who miss out. Right now I agree. However if the interest in Star Wars movies continues to decline while marvel shows no signs of slowing down, it'll be worth considering. Every Spider-Man movie they make is a guaranteed billion dollar payoff. This is not true of Star Wars. 7/8 made over a billion but not all of them. --- It says right here in Matthew 16:4 "Jesus doth not need a giant Mecha." https://imgur.com/dQgC4kv <cite>Tyranthraxus posted [p:926337602] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted... </cite> <quote>I think that would be a pretty bad deal for Disney. The biggest issue for this stuff is that neither of them really need it all that much. It's the fans who miss out.</quote>Right now I agree. However if the interest in Star Wars movies continues to decline while marvel shows no signs of slowing down, it'll be worth considering. Every Spider-Man movie they make is a guaranteed billion dollar payoff. This is not true of Star Wars. 7/8 made over a billion but not all of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 10:45:55 PM #227:	I would say Disney should reboot the original trilogy and start over, but they'd probably make Luke a woman if they did. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926337666] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I would say Disney should reboot the original trilogy and start over, but they'd probably make Luke a woman if they did.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/20/19 10:49:26 PM #228:	I don't think it's fair that people don't count Spider-Verse because it's animated. It was still a proper theatrical release with a lot of big names behind it. I hope that movie did influence their future input with or without the MCU. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926337822] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I don't think it's fair that people don't count Spider-Verse because it's animated. It was still a proper theatrical release with a lot of big names behind it. I hope that movie did influence their future input with or without the MCU.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/20/19 10:51:12 PM #229:	Darmik posted... I don't think it's fair that people don't count Spider-Verse because it's animated. It was still a proper theatrical release with a lot of big names behind it. I hope that movie did influence their future input with or without the MCU. Should it be counted among the live action films? No. Nobody mentions Mask of the Phantasm, Lego Batman, or any of the other animated films when they talk about Batman movies. Should it be counted as proof that Sony can draw money or make a popular Spider-Man film with the right people involved? Absolutely. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926337893] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>I don't think it's fair that people don't count Spider-Verse because it's animated. It was still a proper theatrical release with a lot of big names behind it. I hope that movie did influence their future input with or without the MCU.</quote> Should it be counted among the live action films? No. Nobody mentions Mask of the Phantasm, Lego Batman, or any of the other animated films when they talk about Batman movies. Should it be counted as proof that Sony can draw money or make a popular Spider-Man film with the right people involved? Absolutely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarthAragorn 08/20/19 10:52:07 PM #230:	the big question about into the spiderverse for me is how involved was sony and will they meddle with it more now that it was proven to be a success <cite>DarthAragorn posted [p:926337923] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>the big question about into the spiderverse for me is how involved was sony and will they meddle with it more now that it was proven to be a success</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Holy_Cloud105 08/20/19 10:59:03 PM #231:	I Like Toast posted... Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Asm 1&2 were fine and if the marvel deal didn't happen would have continued on. And venom still make 700-800 mil. Spiderman is better with the mcu, Sony has shown they can make movies. And quite frankly with what Disney choose to do with spiderman its more important does their narrative to have spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman being Tony's legacy is more important than spiderman. And the reception of multiverse and the appeal of Tom hardy leaves spiderman non mcu future fine. Spiderman 1 and 2 were the last live action movies they made that were good and are almost 20 years old now. ASM 1 and 2 were garbage. They were not good movies. Venom making money doesn't mean it was a good movie. Venom couldn't even decide what kind of movie it wanted to be. It jumped from a superhero movie to a comedy to a horror movie multiple times. --- Official Aqua of the Kingdom Hearts 3 board. <cite>Holy_Cloud105 posted [p:926338176] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted...</cite> <quote>Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Asm 1&2 were fine and if the marvel deal didn't happen would have continued on. And venom still make 700-800 mil. Spiderman is better with the mcu, Sony has shown they can make movies. And quite frankly with what Disney choose to do with spiderman its more important does their narrative to have spiderman than the other way around. Spiderman being Tony's legacy is more important than spiderman. And the reception of multiverse and the appeal of Tom hardy leaves spiderman non mcu future fine.</quote> Spiderman 1 and 2 were the last live action movies they made that were good and are almost 20 years old now. ASM 1 and 2 were garbage. They were not good movies. Venom making money doesn't mean it was a good movie. Venom couldn't even decide what kind of movie it wanted to be. It jumped from a superhero movie to a comedy to a horror movie multiple times.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AmericaTheBrave 08/20/19 11:29:32 PM #233:	Disney doesn't need to own everything. But Marvel should own all their characters. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/8tc5P9i.jpg That's America's ass <cite>AmericaTheBrave posted [p:926339281] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Disney doesn't need to own everything. But Marvel should own all their characters.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Simon_Petrikov 08/21/19 12:03:15 AM #234:	Im gonna miss Aunt Tomei --- Will happen, happening, happened https://imgur.com/V0NMmmo <cite>Simon_Petrikov posted [p:926340365] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Im gonna miss Aunt Tomei</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Banjo2553 08/21/19 12:05:23 AM #235:	Skye Reynolds posted... You know something? I'd rather have a continuation of the Sam Raimi films with 40-something Peter and MJ than have Spider-Man without Mary Jane. I'm... actually kinda happy about this. There's absolutely no guarantee that would happen though. You'd have more of a guarantee of yet another reboot happening and that would be the last thing I would want. --- Game collection: http://www.backloggery.com/bakonbitz Gaming channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwVQm69J7bGScbv3_50C0dA <cite>Banjo2553 posted [p:926340443] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>You know something? I'd rather have a continuation of the Sam Raimi films with 40-something Peter and MJ than have Spider-Man without Mary Jane. I'm... actually kinda happy about this.</quote> There's absolutely no guarantee that would happen though. You'd have more of a guarantee of yet another reboot happening and that would be the last thing I would want.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 08/21/19 12:05:27 AM #236:	Simon_Petrikov posted... Im gonna miss Aunt Tomei She will remain. Essentially the same people will still be involved sans any MCU characters. It's more about shitting on the universe than it being a detachment. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:926340444] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Simon_Petrikov posted...</cite> <quote>Im gonna miss Aunt Tomei</quote> She will remain. Essentially the same people will still be involved sans any MCU characters. It's more about shitting on the universe than it being a detachment.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/21/19 12:06:05 AM #237:	Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney? <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926340462] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LockeMonster 08/21/19 12:07:34 AM #238:	Skye Reynolds posted... Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney? They're all with Sony. Feige is the only one who influences anything with the movies from the Disney side. It's for the most part by Sony entirely. --- "Scranton is great, but New York is like Scranton on acid. No, on speed. Nah. On steroids." FC: 3282-3258-0224 <cite>LockeMonster posted [p:926340515] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney?</quote> They're all with Sony. Feige is the only one who influences anything with the movies from the Disney side. It's for the most part by Sony entirely.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 08/21/19 12:13:55 AM #239:	dave_is_slick posted... I Like Toast posted... Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this. Almost 20 year old movies I Like Toast posted... Asm 1&2 were fine They were not. Well financially they did decently, which is all that really matters for the company making them. ASM2 was a disappointment, but it still made money, and it's certainly plausible that Sony could have made more money off a third ASM movie that they didn't have to share with Marvel than they made off of Homecoming. I'm sure the movie would have been terrible but there's a good chance it would have made good money. --- i am truley sorry for your lots <cite>action52 posted [p:926340706] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote>I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Except spider man 1 and 2 disproves this.</quote>Almost 20 year old movies I Like Toast posted... </cite> <quote>Asm 1&2 were fine</quote>They were not. </quote> Well financially they did decently, which is all that really matters for the company making them. ASM2 was a disappointment, but it still made money, and it's certainly plausible that Sony could have made more money off a third ASM movie that they didn't have to share with Marvel than they made off of Homecoming. I'm sure the movie would have been terrible but there's a good chance it would have made good money.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/21/19 12:17:25 AM #240:	LockeMonster posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney? They're all with Sony. Feige is the only one who influences anything with the movies from the Disney side. It's for the most part by Sony entirely. Ah, thank. Then nothing changes except no more crossovers. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926340809] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>LockeMonster posted...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Who has a contract with which company? Is Zendaya with Disney?</quote> They're all with Sony. Feige is the only one who influences anything with the movies from the Disney side. It's for the most part by Sony entirely.</quote> Ah, thank. Then nothing changes except no more crossovers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Coca-Cola 08/21/19 12:21:29 AM #241:	Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave. --- Signature <cite>Coca-Cola posted [p:926340923] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/21/19 12:38:36 AM #242:	AmericaTheBrave posted... Disney doesn't need to own everything. But Marvel should own all their characters. Marvel should have taken better care of their characters in the 90s then. :p --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:926341406] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>AmericaTheBrave posted...</cite> <quote>Disney doesn't need to own everything. But Marvel should own all their characters.</quote> Marvel should have taken better care of their characters in the 90s then. :p</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
action52 08/21/19 12:46:04 AM #243:	Holy shit I was looking up the Sony Spiderman universe and they're making a Morbius movie starring JARED LETO?! It's like they're determined to take everything I hate about superhero movies and throw it at us! --- i am truley sorry for your lots <cite>action52 posted [p:926341598] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Holy shit I was looking up the Sony Spiderman universe and they're making a Morbius movie starring JARED LETO?! It's like they're determined to take everything I hate about superhero movies and throw it at us!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Skye Reynolds 08/21/19 12:48:08 AM #244:	Coca-Cola posted... Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave. I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it. <cite>Skye Reynolds posted [p:926341665] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Coca-Cola posted...</cite> <quote>Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave.</quote> I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AlisLandale 08/21/19 12:53:16 AM #245:	Skye Reynolds posted... Coca-Cola posted... Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave. I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it. Real talk for a second. Was Stan Lee ever publicly critical of any Marvel property? He always seemed to have a Dan Akroyd to Ghostbusters attitude where it didnt matter what it was, hed hype it up lol --- https://i.imgtc.com/8ePXf9B.gif If Yamcha would have brought his bat along he'd have blasted Jiren out of the ring like Ness in smash brothers. - Gids_goft <cite>AlisLandale posted [p:926341802] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Coca-Cola posted...</cite> <quote>Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave.</quote> I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it.</quote> Real talk for a second. Was Stan Lee ever publicly critical of any Marvel property? He always seemed to have a Dan Akroyd to Ghostbusters attitude where it didnt matter what it was, hed hype it up lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ivynn 08/21/19 12:54:55 AM #246:	AlisLandale posted... Skye Reynolds posted... Coca-Cola posted... Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave. I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it. Real talk for a second. Was Stan Lee ever publicly critical of any Marvel property? He always seemed to have a Dan Akroyd to Ghostbusters attitude where it didnt matter what it was, hed hype it up lol Fan4stic? He at least made a joke that it failed because he didn't cameo in it. >_> --- https://imgur.com/vDci4hD <cite>Ivynn posted [p:926341845] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>AlisLandale posted...</cite> <quote>Skye Reynolds posted...</cite> <quote>Coca-Cola posted...</cite> <quote>Shame on $ony. This really sucks for fans. Stan Lee is rolling over in his grave.</quote> I don't think he cared who had control of what so long as he got a paid cameo out of it.</quote> Real talk for a second. Was Stan Lee ever publicly critical of any Marvel property? He always seemed to have a Dan Akroyd to Ghostbusters attitude where it didnt matter what it was, hed hype it up lol</quote> Fan4stic? He at least made a joke that it failed because he didn't cameo in it. >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/21/19 12:56:11 AM #247:	Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:926341882] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 08/21/19 12:56:59 AM #248:	Screw Disney. They make enough money already --- I use Gameraven and you should too. "I don't f****** care about anyone's penis but mine..." - Machete <cite>teepan95 posted [p:926341905] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Screw Disney. They make enough money already</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/21/19 1:05:15 AM #249:	Smashingpmkns posted... Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926342162] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote>Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh</quote> From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 08/21/19 1:10:48 AM #250:	What if Sony soft reboots Holland Spiderman ala Brand New Day in the comics? It was universally reviled in print, how would it do on film? --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:926342306] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>What if Sony soft reboots Holland Spiderman ala Brand New Day in the comics? It was universally reviled in print, how would it do on film?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/21/19 1:14:53 AM #251:	Sony mentioned in their statement that they'll continue on the path Feige left. So they'll probably stick with Holland for a long time. Despite Spider-man being the most popular Marvel character they're actually pretty lucky in the fact that he's not that critical to the MCU overarching plot or lore. He's a street level hero who can just be in his own little bubble. Even if circumstances change in the future they could bring him back with no real difficulty as long as there's no mega contradictions that happen between both series. --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926342397] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Sony mentioned in their statement that they'll continue on the path Feige left. So they'll probably stick with Holland for a long time. Despite Spider-man being the most popular Marvel character they're actually pretty lucky in the fact that he's not that critical to the MCU overarching plot or lore. He's a street level hero who can just be in his own little bubble. Even if circumstances change in the future they could bring him back with no real difficulty as long as there's no mega contradictions that happen between both series.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smashingpmkns 08/21/19 1:15:15 AM #252:	Darmik posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox. Sounds like bs --- Clean Butt Crew <cite>Smashingpmkns posted [p:926342412] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh</quote> From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox.</quote> Sounds like bs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darmik 08/21/19 1:15:47 AM #253:	Smashingpmkns posted... Darmik posted... Smashingpmkns posted... Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox. Sounds like bs Why? --- Kind Regards, Darmik <cite>Darmik posted [p:926342425] in Spider-Man... [t:77952308]...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Darmik posted...</cite> <quote>Smashingpmkns posted...</cite> <quote> Lol now Sony is blaming Kevin Feige's work load smh</quote> From Sony's perspective they want him and the MCU connections. That's it. Disney wants 50/50 and control over the Spider-man movies. That's it. Kevin Feige doesn't get to work on Spider-man without Disney's approval. From Disney's perspective he just inherited a whole bunch of new properties so why would they share him with Sony? It's not a coincidence Disney is going hard ball after they bought 20th Century Fox.</quote> Sounds like bs</quote> Why?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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