Board 8 > English Literature Mafia Topic 15: Caught Red Handed

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Lopen posted...

He wouldn't. But I'm explaining Ben's gambit. The flavor is perfect, isn't it?

Flavors and roles shouldnt have anything to do with eachother in this game. As stated in the rules
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Lopen posted...

Ben
Lolo
Corrik
Constable Cam

That's your scumteam.

Lock em up lock em up lock em up.

While I cannot be Mafia with anyone

I particularly am never Mafia with Corrik

Hbthebattle posted...

Lolo and Corrik together... I said it earlier, but when Lolo doesn't die tomorrow, it'd look really bad for both, right?

I think Lea is still probably scum here.

benjamin3740 posted...

Lopen posted...

He wouldn't. But I'm explaining Ben's gambit. The flavor is perfect, isn't it?

Flavors and roles shouldnt have anything to do with eachother in this game. As stated in the rules

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benjamin3740 posted...

Lopen posted...

He wouldn't. But I'm explaining Ben's gambit. The flavor is perfect, isn't it?

Flavors and roles shouldnt have anything to do with eachother in this game. As stated in the rules

Not this shit again
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Lolo doesn't die tomorrow and Corrik says he goofed, we lynch Lolo, then Corrik is "cleared" because we've seen "evidence" of his role and he supported lynching scum. He also avoids Lolo getting lynched today, theoretically causing a mislynch today rather than a scum lynch.

I will admit that I'm least confident in Corrik of the 4 there. It seems in the wheelhouse of the scumteam without the cooler heads red and luis still there though. Gambits all over, man.
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Lopen posted...

without the cooler heads red and luis still there though.

dead scum stayed in chat last game at least
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I'd like to make another gambit

I am Town Gambit

For every gambit, I gain one gambit

Each night I can use the gambits to gambit

childish gambito
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Also, I'm happy to see Pez flip

I'm just curious if it will be a backflip or a forward flip

Yeah but dead scum can only suggest courses of action. Not being alive, if the other players are paniced or silly chaos will still reign.
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@ me I'm going to bed
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Btw Sam I Am as insane cop makes no sense. Paranoid cop kinda worked but he zoned himself out of that one with a town scan on Tom. So when Pez or Death flip town, please lynch Ben. Do not assume he's insane.

Thanks. I'm going to bed now. @Tom_Bombadil
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Lopen posted...

Lolo doesn't die tomorrow and Corrik says he goofed, we lynch Lolo, then Corrik is "cleared" because we've seen "evidence" of his role and he supported lynching scum. He also avoids Lolo getting lynched today, theoretically causing a mislynch today rather than a scum lynch.

I will admit that I'm least confident in Corrik of the 4 there. It seems in the wheelhouse of the scumteam without the cooler heads red and luis still there though. Gambits all over, man.

You must have really strong town reads on Death and Pez to believe conspiracy theories are the truth and not just the obvious?

Who the hell are the town power roles if Me, Corrik, and Lolo are scum

You are either scum or just....not logical? At all?

Corrik save me tonight and I'll scan Lopen
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tag
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benjamin3740 posted...

Lopen posted...

Lolo doesn't die tomorrow and Corrik says he goofed, we lynch Lolo, then Corrik is "cleared" because we've seen "evidence" of his role and he supported lynching scum. He also avoids Lolo getting lynched today, theoretically causing a mislynch today rather than a scum lynch.

I will admit that I'm least confident in Corrik of the 4 there. It seems in the wheelhouse of the scumteam without the cooler heads red and luis still there though. Gambits all over, man.

You must have really strong town reads on Death and Pez to believe conspiracy theories are the truth and not just the obvious?

Who the hell are the town power roles if Me, Corrik, and Lolo are scum

You are either scum or just....not logical? At all?

Corrik save me tonight and I'll scan Lopen

I'm trying not to reveal who the last town power role is...But I agree that Lopen isn't making much sense.
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The obvious is you haven't played this claim like a real claim at all. Pez is overconfident in his reads and thinks you're stupid town. I know better.
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Lopen posted...

The obvious is you haven't played this claim like a real claim at all. Pez is overconfident in his reads and thinks you're stupid town. I know better.

Wait, where in the game did I call Ben stupid town? In fact I've repeatedly said this was a good calculated risk.
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Also I came to the same conclusion as Pez. Good old fashioned detective work on my end, though. Not some lame ass role like he's using.
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This game has no town power. Sultan was modkilled for being a mayor. Chris was never votestuffed, we're all just sheep who got mass hypnotized into letting him decide the lynch.

pezloco posted...

In fact I've repeatedly said this was a good calculated risk.

Are you scum?

No?

Then it's a poor risk. You don't square peg an argument on a town unless you actually have something that you can explain better than gut.
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So you think 5tar is the only scanner in 21?
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I think there are other scanners and you're not one of them.
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benjamin3740 posted...

So you think 5tar is the only scanner in 21?

This is intended for lopen
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benjamin3740 posted...

So you think 5tar is the only scanner in 21?

Actually yeah I think that's possible. The last town power I have in mind is almost certainly not a scanner. Assuming I've made my read right.
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in before Mafia have a safe claim of Scanner

And that's why they're super certain Ben is lying

Even though his results are accurate

benjamin3740 posted...

So you think 5tar is the only scanner in 21?

Remember Endgame where the only protection was a bodyguard?
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pezloco posted...

benjamin3740 posted...

So you think 5tar is the only scanner in 21?

Actually yeah I think that's possible. The last town power I have in mind is almost certainly not a scanner. Assuming I've made my read right.

Let me rephrase, I think something one time use could still exist as a scanner. But if it does it is probably not the person I'm thinking of.
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Since we all know Pez is mafia and there is no secret he has to hide from them - dude is trying to say he thinks Lopen is protection role
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Corrik already told you I was the almighty lightning rod.
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Camarija posted...

in before Mafia have a safe claim of Scanner

And that's why they're super certain Ben is lying

Even though his results are accurate

Do you know how safeclaims work?
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Hey Pez if I counterclaimed cop would you think I was misguided town or scum

I'm just kinda weighing my options here
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Hbthebattle posted...

Camarija posted...

in before Mafia have a safe claim of Scanner

And that's why they're super certain Ben is lying

Even though his results are accurate

Do you know how safeclaims work?

not particularly as they vary by host

benjamin3740 posted...

Since we all know Pez is mafia and there is no secret he has to hide from them - dude is trying to say he thinks Lopen is protection role

It's not Lopen.
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Pez stop responding to scum benjamin rolefishing your information
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Lopen posted...

Hey Pez if I counterclaimed cop would you think I was misguided town or scum

I'm just kinda weighing my options here

Well after this...I don't know what I'd think honestly.
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HB, since you keep citing past games, you should know I always play the long game as scum. I stick with vanilla.
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Option 3 is think I'm cop, I guess. I mean, I have very good scans.
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I BELIEVE IN HARVEY DENT Benjamin!

Lopen posted...

Option 3 is think I'm cop, I guess. I mean, I have very good scans.

1. I don't believe you because you think I'm Mafia

2. See 1

Lopen posted...

Option 3 is think I'm cop, I guess. I mean, I have very good scans.

If you fake a scum scan on Ben, I think you're lying. And given all the talk it's a null tell. Doesn't help me with your alignment.
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Pez is being so nice he's making me feel bad I scanned him
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Well I wasn't going to anyway because it would be hypocritical of me since that type of play is deplorable.

I'll wait another night and get another scan off, then claim.
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Lopen posted...

Well I wasn't going to anyway because it would be hypocritical of me since that type of play is deplorable.

I'll wait another night and get another scan off, then claim.

I like Moo Moos

Also scan claims

Also I don't Justin Beliebin you

I won't scan you don't worry Cam you claimed miller
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Lopen posted...

I won't scan you don't worry Cam you claimed miller

I'm not miller though lmfao

I should come up as straight up Town

I'm just voldemort is all

Camarija posted...

Lopen posted...

I won't scan you don't worry Cam you claimed miller

I'm not miller though lmfao

I should come up as straight up Town

I'm just voldemort is all

Lopen isn't being serious...
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pezloco posted...

Camarija posted...

Lopen posted...

I won't scan you don't worry Cam you claimed miller

I'm not miller though lmfao

I should come up as straight up Town

I'm just voldemort is all

Lopen isn't being serious...

Aren't you afraid of spew at this point?

Alright so...

Options are.

1. Lynch a guilty scan from Ben. If Ben is faking, we don't want to do this, and it'll be self resolving, so we can just leave his two guilty scans on the table. No reason to rush these.
2. Lynch Ben. If Ben isn't faking, we don't want to do this, and the claim is self resolving. No reason to rush this.
3. Lynch Lolo. If Corrik was right with the kill explanation, he'll be dead tomorrow as one of two kills. If Corrik was wrong, we lynch Lolo tomorrow. It's probably not a great option to lynch him today. -EV, lock to lynch tomorrow if survives.
4. Lynch Cam. He had very suspicious voting yesterday and on dowolf and the theory that he got mafia recruited explaining the non-kill last night has some value. With the idea that a cop is in the game, this has no downsides! The theory of a flavor miller should be out the window as an actual cop apparently exists.
5. Lynch Lea. Also kinda suspicious with voting and the claim is clearly nonsense.

I think we should go with option 4 or 5, myself.
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(5 is probably better. Cam self resolves in a way too if Lolo kaputs tomorrow.)
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