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GooseMyUserName
06/07/19 3:22:08 PM
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I can't believe I'm reviving this dumpster but now there's this, in ascending crazy order

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full doc out apparently but oh god jesus has been defamed
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Xiahou Shake
06/07/19 3:23:41 PM
#2:


Social media was a mistake
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LordoftheMorons
06/07/19 3:25:35 PM
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...did he get Devin Nunes's lawyer or something
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Logience
06/07/19 3:25:57 PM
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What Would Jesus Do? Light him on fire and send him to hell.


Im reminded of those graffitis on What would grandma say? kindergarten post-its.

Im also inspired to start a What Would Vic Do? meme.
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TexasZea
06/07/19 3:26:11 PM
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GooseMyUserName posted...
I can't believe I'm reviving this dumpster

This statement is defamatory and false because this lawsuit is not a dumpster (this is another word for a large container for garbage, thus it is impossible for a lawsuit to be a "dumpster.")
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LOLIAmAnAlt
06/07/19 3:27:38 PM
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This is dumb, also what is this and do I want to know who these people are.
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GuessMyUserName
06/07/19 3:28:03 PM
#7:


fuck can you even revive a dumpster

oh shit i'm sorry don't sue me i was wrong
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Tom Bombadil
06/07/19 3:30:20 PM
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LOLIAmAnAlt posted...
This is dumb, also what is this and do I want to know who these people are.


Vic Mignogna is a (relatively) high-profile voice actor who has had sexual harrassment allegations brought against him and I guess now he's counter-suing or something

but it's a whole big thing if you wanna look it up or get b8 to argue with itself for a few hundred posts again
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GranzonEx
06/07/19 3:36:02 PM
#9:


lmao Big McEggnog

#kickvic

remember to update us when he loses
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 3:42:37 PM
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They are obligated to include every defamatory tweet in this retraction letter according to the Texas Defamation Mitigation Act in order to proceed with litigation if they don't comply. It's a procedural thing, and while it's silly for them to say it's false because he can't be fecal matter, it's obligatory that they need to try and debunk each part of a statement when there's a larger one included in the tweet (such as implying he's committed crimes).

You can claim the implications are just that, but there are 400 other Tweets that also provide total context for these statements, and if they want every trace of it removed, the silliness is included. These will obviously not be included in any real filings, and it is just a procedural thing they had to go through.

Currently in the case, the legal team for Ron Toye and Monica Rial was trying to play a dirty game to get Vic deposed first and then file a protective order before Ron and Monica got deposed so only Vic's deposition would be public before the Judge had to be involved, ludicrously at this stage, to stop it and force no protective orders until after the depositions. They have also had rather nonsensical filings since they were first served their Complaint that are subject to ridicule for citing unverifiable Tumblr blogs and editable forums.

Jamie Marchi, meanwhile, was dodging service and hiding in her home and refusing to answer the door when they continually tried to serve her. She has since claimed that a service processor was lying the whole time, including about leaving her service on deliveries she had, in order to make it seem like she wasn't hiding from it.

Funimation, meanwhile, has been given an extension until after the other parties can go through discovery, presumably so they can settle because the current plan seems to be for them to dumpster their whole case, claim they were all agents of Funimation, and then force Funimation to foot the entire bill of the damages. Funimation settling and giving Vic's counsel would force the other parties (Ron Toye, Monica Rial, and Jamie Marchi) to pay for the remainder of what dollar amount they don't settle for.

It's honestly a gigantic mess, but discovery is due for Toye and Rial next week, so that will be fun.
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Arti
06/07/19 3:53:51 PM
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this is still dumb

one side will win, and vic will still never get another voice acting job ever again regardless of the outcome

so who cares really
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GranzonEx
06/07/19 3:59:57 PM
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Arti posted...
this is still dumb

one side will win, and vic will still never get another voice acting job ever again regardless of the outcome

so who cares really

this statement is false because Mr. Big McEggnog is not unemployed and will have his day in court to prove his innocence against these slanderous comments
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bwburke94
06/07/19 4:35:14 PM
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Pluralizing "tweets" with an apostrophe is a bad sign.
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 4:41:35 PM
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bwburke94 posted...
Pluralizing "tweets" with an apostrophe is a bad sign.

This is only one paragraph of a 400 page document.

It's a miracle if that's the only typo
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PButterAndJelly
06/07/19 4:41:55 PM
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How come topics like this don't get modded?
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MoogleKupo141
06/07/19 4:45:42 PM
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for what would they be modded
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iiicon
06/07/19 4:57:05 PM
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Arti posted...
this is still dumb

one side will win, and vic will still never get another voice acting job ever again regardless of the outcome

so who cares really

it's a win for vic's lawyer, whose nickname is 'blackface lawyer' because he is a lawyer who did blackface, as he's somehow found someone more incompetent who is willing to pay his billable hours

i guess vic has a future career as a guest in reactionary youtube group chat videos??
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 5:00:02 PM
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iiicon posted...
it's a win for vic's lawyer, whose nickname is 'blackface lawyer' because he is a lawyer who did blackface, as he's somehow found someone more incompetent who is willing to pay his billable hours

i guess vic has a future career as a guest in reactionary youtube group chat videos??

Are you seriously still unaware that this is not Vic's lawyer? This was explained to you already.

And not only that, the only people who call him Blackface Lawyer are those that want to discredit him.

Come on man.
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Nrrr
06/07/19 5:01:56 PM
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Maybe they want to discredit him for the time he did blackface
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htaeD
06/07/19 5:05:12 PM
#20:


Broly sucks

Oh god dont come after me.
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 5:08:32 PM
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htaeD posted...
Broly sucks

Oh god dont come after me.

His damages are MAXIMUM.
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CelesMyUserName
06/07/19 5:11:20 PM
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as a broly fan this has all been devastating

but then I remember I never cared about Broly's speaking roles and until the Super movie I only watched the Broly movies by subs anyways
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KamikazePotato
06/07/19 5:17:09 PM
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So how strong is the case against Vic anyway, I have not been paying attention
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CelesMyUserName
06/07/19 5:17:51 PM
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there isn't a case against vic
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StealThisSheen
06/07/19 5:29:36 PM
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I don't believe there's an actual court case brought against Vic yet

Just allegations, and he's suing over those allegations.

EDIT: Basically, people talked about and did things in reaction to those allegations, and he's suing those people for defamation
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 5:36:32 PM
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KamikazePotato posted...
So how strong is the case against Vic anyway, I have not been paying attention

Vic is suing Funimation, Monica Rial and her husband Ron Toye, and Jamie Marchi for defamation and Ron Toye and Monica Rial for tortious interference of a contract.

Currently, the case is extremely strong for Vic, as Funimation has heavily implied in a statement he was fired for sexual harassment. Monica Rial, Ron Toye, and Jamie Marchi all helped lead a campaign of defamation against him, with Ron Toye making over 400 Tweets about him. Monica Rial and Jamie Marchi claimed he sexually assaulted them each, but when they had the opportunity to tell this to Sony's HR when an investigation was being created, the only thing that they brought up was that Vic once made a bad dad joke about "Eating Monica" after she signed a jelly bean with her name on it and threw it at him six years ago at a signing.

Kamehacon released a bunch of information to Vic's lawyer, and various others have done so as well, of Ron Toye and Monica Rial interfering with his contracts. In particular, a large portion of the conversation was leaked where Ron had apparently offered his company to do a $25k sponsorship, then proceeded to tell them they would have to pull out if Vic was still invited, stating that while the investigation that was still ongoing, Vic was going to be fired and arrested for sexual assault. The Kamehacon owner asked him if he was positive, and Ron confirmed it was a sure thing. This is textbook tortious interference and Ron confirmed this conversation happened. Also worth noting is that the investigation was really bad and nothing was really considered sexual harassment that was investigated, and it was inconclusive.

There is also a ton of other information that Vic's counsel supporting this, and by the time depositions are revealed, they will need to honestly answer questions about what they've done, and with physical evidence of them being dishonest about what they have done this whole time, it's unlikely they'll win.

Running theory is they want Ron and Monica to claim they are agents of Funimation, which would just mean they were speaking on their behalf. This would mean that Funimation would have to pay the entire amount of damages for them, and they could later sue them to recoup. However, Funimation got an extension on their Answer to Complaint, meaning they can wait to see what happens with Ron and Monica and Marchi to decide what they want to do. And since their filings have been alarmingly bad, evidencing indicating they don't have a strong defense, Funimation will probably settle with Vic to escape paying for Ron and Monica's fees.

That's about the best summary I have.
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StealThisSheen
06/07/19 5:39:29 PM
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Also I'll just go on record and say Biscuit is very, very far from an unbiased source of information so I wouldn't take much of what he says as gospel.
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iiicon
06/07/19 5:44:26 PM
#28:


Nrrr posted...
Maybe they want to discredit him for the time he did blackface

why can't people let the blackface lawyer defend the predatory antisemitic creep in peace smh
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 5:45:36 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Also I'll just go on record and say Biscuit is very, very far from an unbiased source of information so I wouldn't take much of what he says as gospel.

I figured people would think this, and you can take my opinion on the strength of the case as you will, but my statements of what has happened can be confirmed with research (such as the Kamehacon and Ron Toye conversation and the jelly bean thing).

I'm willing to answer questions about the case unless people are assholes about it.
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KokoroAkechi
06/07/19 6:06:31 PM
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No one is an unbiased source of information for anything. 99.99999% of people who are kickvic have done no level 1 research (and probably about 99% of those who do have also done none). Minds were made up when the ANN article dropped and all anything has done since is just widen the gap.
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PrivateBiscuit1
06/07/19 6:11:40 PM
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KokoroAkechi posted...
No one is an unbiased source of information for anything. 99.99999% of people who are kickvic have done no level 1 research (and probably about 99% of those who do have also done none). Minds were made up when the ANN article dropped and all anything has done since is just widen the gap.

This is pretty accurate too, as biased as it would be for me to say that. I haven't seen much in the way of a defense for the case that doesn't have a lot of misinformation in it. Sometimes about the facts of the case, and sometimes just not understanding law in general, and sometimes just not understanding Texas law.

This topic is a pretty good example--I don't expect anyone to know that this is the kind of crap they need to send to a party before they can officially sue them, because it does come across as ridiculous, but sometimes the law is extremely ridiculous, especially when a dude does something as ridiculous as tweet 400+ times about somebody. But knowing that Vic's counsel had to write this and be so thorough about it so they don't lose on some ridiculous technicality makes it understandable.
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Peace___Frog
06/07/19 7:14:29 PM
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StealThisSheen posted...
Also I'll just go on record and say Biscuit is very, very far from an unbiased source of information so I wouldn't take much of what he says as gospel.

No really
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