Board 8 > Gauging Interest in Ranking All the CBX Characters by Strength

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MetalmindStats
12/15/18 11:51:00 PM
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I'm planning to run a project where every day (or every two or three days once the holidays start in earnest), I will present a tier of CBX characters who are (roughly) on a similar strength level, and anyone who wants to can rank them based on strength (indirect preferred, but direct allowed). Then, once all the tiers of characters are ranked, we'll have an idea of where Board 8 thinks everyone is at. And yes, I know KP's adjusted X-Stats are already out, but X-Stats don't always accurately depict how strong characters are in relation to one another, for various reasons.

Why must the characters be segregated into specific tiers, you ask? It's simple - 134 characters (discounting the two who are obviously ahead of or behind the rest) is an awful lot to rank, whereas anywhere from 5 to 20 characters depending on the tier will be a lot more manageable, hopefully without compromising accuracy. The tiers I'm planning on using are the following:

- Elites (5 characters)
- Near-Elites (15 characters)
- Upper Midcarders (11 characters)
- Midcarders (19 characters)
- Lower Midcarders (19 characters)
- Fodder Line (15 characters)
- High Fodder (20 characters)
- Fodder (20 characters)
- Low Fodder (10 characters)

Please post here if you're interested in submitting rankings for such a project (write-ups not necessary - only do them if you want), as well as whether we should start from the top or the bottom (excluding Link and Draven) if so. If there's enough interest, I'll put up the first ranking topic tomorrow.
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tennisboy213
12/16/18 1:13:58 AM
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I'll participate
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Haste_2
12/16/18 2:26:59 AM
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Sure, why not?
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Ngamer64
12/16/18 2:53:18 AM
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I'd like to see this.
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Anagram
12/16/18 3:01:27 AM
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If it's just us arranging them in order by whatever we think, sure.
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 3:05:23 AM
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Anagram posted...
If it's just us arranging them in order by whatever we think, sure.

It's supposed to be based on which character you think is stronger, in terms of contest strength. For an indirect example, if you think Shantae would fare worse than John Marston against a neutral opponent in a contest match despite liking her more, you would rank John Marston ahead of Shantae.
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Anagram
12/16/18 3:06:17 AM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Anagram posted...
If it's just us arranging them in order by whatever we think, sure.

It's supposed to be based on which character you think is stronger, in terms of contest strength. For an indirect example, if you think Shantae would fare worse than John Marston against a neutral opponent in a contest match despite liking her more, you would rank John Marston ahead of Shantae.

I get that, I meant just based on our opinions or instincts of who's stronger, not based on like actual math that would take effort.
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FinaIFantasyV
12/16/18 3:06:20 AM
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In
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 3:07:47 AM
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Anagram posted...
MetalmindStats posted...
Anagram posted...
If it's just us arranging them in order by whatever we think, sure.

It's supposed to be based on which character you think is stronger, in terms of contest strength. For an indirect example, if you think Shantae would fare worse than John Marston against a neutral opponent in a contest match despite liking her more, you would rank John Marston ahead of Shantae.

I get that, I meant just based on our opinions or instincts of who's stronger, not based on like actual math that would take effort.

Whoops, my bad. Yes, you don't need to do actual math to participate. Maybe look at certain characters' CBX results if you're unsure.
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ZeldaTPLink
12/16/18 6:43:51 AM
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Sure
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HaRRicH
12/16/18 6:53:44 AM
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Tag.
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SuperNiceDog
12/16/18 8:22:08 AM
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ok
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Underleveled
12/16/18 8:30:29 AM
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Count me in.
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 9:30:29 AM
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With the interest so far, I can confirm that this project is officially a go, and I will post the first ranking topic sometime tonight. One question for those who have already voiced their interest (and also anyone else who wants to participate), though: would you rather see us start off with the Elites and work our way downward from there, or would you prefer we start off with the Low Fodder and advance upward from there?

Also, as I garbled my way to saying to Anagram above, you don't need any advanced stat or other mathematical knowledge to participate, just a general idea of what CBX's results have been and a willingness to rank moderately-sized groups of characters. This isn't meant to be a super serious project, after all!
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garetha200
12/16/18 9:40:38 AM
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I can but only after exams end on the 19th
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 9:42:50 AM
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garetha200 posted...
I can but only after exams end on the 19th

That's no issue, I'll be allowing retroactive submissions even after a given tier's day has passed, up until this project's end.
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Underleveled
12/16/18 11:30:23 AM
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I'm guessing the elites are Link, Cloud, Zelda, Mario, and Samus and the Near-Elites are Pikachu, Mega Man, Snake, Crono, Sonic, Sephiroth, Ganondorf, Tifa, Alucard, Bowser, Auron, Kirby, Luigi, MMX....... Vivi?
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ZeldaTPLink
12/16/18 1:03:49 PM
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Imo Snake is much closer to the Top 5 than any of the ones below.
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AxemRedRanger
12/16/18 1:12:03 PM
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Yoshi > Auron unless you'd put Sonic on par with Crono/Mega Man/Pikachu.

And Pikachu's results project Zero to be worth 48% on Yoshi but if you keep the second tier to 15 I'd guess Zero, Auron, and Aerith narrowly miss out.
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 9:32:55 PM
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Link's in his own separate tier above all the Elites, and yes, Snake is one of the five Elites. Given this discussion, I'll start with the Elites, and we can work our way down from there. Expect the first topic sometime in the next few hours.
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MetalmindStats
12/16/18 10:20:32 PM
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And here's the first topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77309079
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MetalmindStats
12/17/18 11:38:03 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Here's the Day 2 topic, for ranking the Near-Elites: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77312457

If you missed Day 1, use the Day 2 topic to rank the Elites.

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MetalmindStats
12/18/18 11:04:36 PM
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MetalmindStats posted...
Here's the Day 3 topic, for ranking the Upper Midcarders: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77315461

If you missed either of the previous days, use the Day 3 topic to rank their slates.

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MetalmindStats
12/20/18 1:34:32 AM
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Here's the Day 4 topic, for ranking the Midcarders: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77318792
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TsunamiXXVIII
12/21/18 1:27:13 PM
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I feel like pre-tiering them was a mistake, but I do love rankings.
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MetalmindStats
12/21/18 10:32:38 PM
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The Day 5 topic: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77324171
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MetalmindStats
12/24/18 1:36:01 AM
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For those who tagged this topic, you can find the current and future topics in this series by searching for 'ranking'.
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