Board 8 > Gauntlet Crew Ranks Planet of the Apes movies

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Oh cool. I like everything else left.
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Glad Escape ranked the highest of the 70's films; it's the only one that's really any good in an unironic sense.

WickIebee posted...

For Scarlet's information, I realized my Battle write-up was bad anyway.

Between Conquest and Battle, I enjoyed the subtleties to show that this Caesar was changing the way everything was working, I did not find either movie boring and found myself actually forgiving a lot more of it than things I ranked lower. I found both shows battle segments to be well handled considering it is the old attempt at non-animated children's shows. Battle especially has a very good continuation while time skipping in my eyes to Conquest.

Thanks. I was just curious because I found it really difficult to jibe that opinion based on what I've seen of your opinions in the past.
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The conquest of Wickle's outlier, he's long out of the race for bottom now.

Stifled- 9
JONA- 7
Inviso- 6
Johnbobb- 6
Wickle- 6
Scarlet- 5
Karo- 3
KBM- 2
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Monkeys in Malibu the best of the sequel movies?

ew
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PrinceKaro posted...

Monkeys in Malibu the best of the sequel movies?

ew

Easily. Very, very easily.
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Fun fact coming up. Scar and JONA have just broken up after 3 movies of same rankings. One couple ends in the movie I'm trying to post before dinner.
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#5. Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014)
Johnbobb- 3
Scarlet- 3
Karo- 4
Inviso- 5
KBM- 5
JONA- 6
Stifled- 6
Wickle- 7

"Dawn is solid, but it gets stuck in the typical tough spot that the 2nd films of triologies tend to fall into. It largely exists to bridge the gap between the origin and the war, but fortunately there's a good bit to keep it distinct. Koba makes for a thrilling villain, with intelligence to rival Caesar's and pure AM-level hate to drive him. Watching him manipulate the guards into getting their guns, only to immediately break character and gun them down went from hilarious to startling in moments, and seeing Koba work really shows the division between him and Caesar. The end fight scene was even better, with the crumbling tower making everything feel large in scale and simultaneously claustrophobic. It's a shame the human characters' subplot doesn't entertain nearly as much." ~Johnbobb

"After the final moments of Rise reveal the species-leveling catastrophe of the Simian Flu, Dawn sees the scraps of humanity struggling to remain dominant on the planet. Andy Serkis Caesar carries the weight of his people on his shoulders, and he must determine if the humans who once enslaved him are worthy of his compassion. He may be infected by his memories of love for James Franco, but the hatred that resides within Kobo (his right-hand chimp) will force Caesar to engage in battle rather than compromise. Stepping behind the camera, Matt Reaves brings a singular vision to the visual storytelling and a sincere trust that Serkis mo-cap character is enough to capture our attention." ~Scarlet

"After the virus kills off most of mankind, the survivors and Caesar's new simian civilization clash thanks to the betrayal of of the scar-faced monkey that was CLEARLY going to be evil from minute he appeared in the previous movie.
Unfortunately, the whole film comes off as a rather unnecessary sequel that seems to go on and on and on without much of a point and everyone killing each other for reasons that get ever more arbitrary and contrived.
None of the heart present in Rise is in this movie, however there are many scenes that are probably very touching to those who can speak monkey sign language or who are entranced by apes who talk like they are trying hard to pass a kidney stone.
It is competent, but is really nothing more than a glorified filler arc mandated by some executives that decided it absolutely had to be a trilogy. Like, you can literally skip right to the third film with very little confusion." ~Karo

"This movie was fine. Once again, I think Andy Serkis does a fine job playing Caesar (although he constantly has this half-scowl expression on this face, so thats weird.) And the movie is fine in terms of being a well-made and well-produced modern film. The problem I have that keeps it out of my top tier is just how obvious the plot feels. You have humans and apes. Apes live alone in their little ape sanctuary, humans are trying to survive after the simian flu wiped out their population. And they meet up ten years after the events of Rise, and theres some automatic tension. Thats fine. Tension is good. My problem comes from both sides having exactly ONE guy who is a raging asshole trying to stoke the fires of war. Carver and Koba are so unnecessarily dickish, and I KNOW that Koba is supposed to be evilbut when youve got characters that feel complex and multi-dimensional (even Gary Oldman feels like a fleshed-out person), those cookie-cutter motivations just feel off. And theyre the MAIN source of conflict in the film. So yeahthis couldve been better. Couldve been worse, as evidenced by the films I ranked lowerbut couldve been MUCH better as well." ~Inviso
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"This movie is great when it focuses on the apes, and boring as shit when it focuses on any of the humans that aren't Gary Oldman (who adds yet another great over-the-top villain performance to his rsum here). Caesar and Koba are the highlights here their relationship is riveting, but the focus of the film keeps getting hijacked by Jason Clarke's character, who just doesn't have that much to him I like him as an actor, but especially when his screentime is taking time away that we could have been spending with the apes, I just feel all the energy and momentum get sapped out of the story. At times it feels like a series that's just spinning its wheels between two much more eventful installments. As is true of all of the reboot series, the effects are fabulous, and Michael Giacchino's score is typically great." ~KBM

"I really can't remember much of this movie except that it's the buildup for War. The humans in this movie are rather forgettable and wow, I can't remember anything about this movie. There's nothing particularly bad though." ~JONA

"This was an interesting look at an attempt at cooperation between humans and apes. Besides Caesars few friends in the last two original Apes movies, there was no semblance of the two sides trying to coexist. In Dawn, a group of humans need to cooperate with the apes in order to make some medicine. The interactions between the two sides presented some heartwarming moments and equally interesting tension. And then you have crazy Koba stirring up trouble. Koba was a fun character in the fact that his motivations made perfect sense, but he was also batshit crazy and violent. He was also fairly smart, using an act as a dumb, primitive ape to lure humans into a false sense of security. As expected, however, any positive traits became outweighed by the negative. Any logical message he had for his comrades became wiped out by his craving for murder. I swear, what is it with leaders named Caesar hiring untrustworthy generals?

Traviss Opinion: We were on vacation and took a break in the hotel room to watch some TV. FX happened to be showing Rise and Dawn, so we decided to watch them. Travis was enjoying Dawn, but he was too hyper to sit still. He climbed up for a bit here and there to watch, but then hopped down and started running around like a nut again." ~Stifled

"Project Purity can and will be operational. This is just the beginning. I've got one of the portable fusion generators up and running, but it's just enough to power the emergency lighting and a couple of other systems. Look at me, getting all sentimental. There's time for that when our work is done. You think I'm going to let YOU stop me? After all I've been through?" ~James
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And since this one's important for me to post... Here's my actual write-up for Dawn. My gimmick is definitely not going to cut it here, though this was when I was happy about my gimmick once again, since I felt this one really fit for the movie.

Dawn of the Planet of the Apes (2014)- Oh god the change in CG for the apes was terrible. The baby was ugly especially thanks to the new art style, whereas baby chimps before (like Caesar both in both iterations) were fairly cute. They also introduced Caesars son in this movie, and of course the birth of said sons brother. Neither of which were obvious until nearing the end of the movie when the main human brought up the topic of Caesars son, and then Caesar talking to his son about his wife and other son. Early on there was hardly any tell on the fact that it was Caesars wife, or who this new kid was. I even thought the new baby was the new kids child for the longest time. I did not like that they never really indicated that the gorilla was meant to be different from the one from the first movie (who you know, is supposed to be dead), and also after seeing like 30 orangutans were back to only the one. Continuity errors, ho!
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oh shit

didn't expect to see any of the modern trilogy out of the top 4 at least
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My top four are all still in.
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This result pleases me.

That... is absolutely shocking. Dawn is pretty great on many levels, especially in the way its action scenes are shot.
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Dawn is not without its share of problems, but to say it is worse then those abominable 70's sequels... yikes
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Snake5555555555 posted...

That... is absolutely shocking. Dawn is pretty great on many levels, especially in the way its action scenes are shot.

guess you should've submitted a ranking :P
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Dawn out before Rise huh? Interesting. Kinda weird too.

Also:

Inviso posted...

PrinceKaro posted...

Monkeys in Malibu the best of the sequel movies?

ew

Easily. Very, very easily.

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To note, every movie in the top 4 has a #1, and so they start falling now.

#4. Escape from Planet of the Apes (1971)
Stifled- 1
JONA- 2
Inviso- 3
KBM- 4
Johnbobb- 5
Scarlet- 6
Wickle- 6 RUINED IT
Karo- 8

"This was easily the biggest surprise of the list for me. Ive seen the original Planet of the Apes quite a few times, but never any of the sequels. I kind of assumed Heston of the Apes would reign supreme, but then this little gem appeared on my TV. It gave me more of the characters I really liked from the original. It did some nice world building and lore setup. It gave me an extremely well done role reversal that I didnt know I wanted until I saw it. It taught me what grape juice plus is. It also shattered my heart into pieces at the very end. I was hoping with all my might that Zira and Cornelius would get a happy ending, butwell, you know. We dont do happy endings in this series. Its so cool that the franchise was able to slip a surprise sequel turned prequel into the mix and make it so good. Sometimes these kinds of ideas are very poorly executed, but Escape is a major exception.

Traviss Opinion: He kept asking me over and over again if there were monkeys on the TV. I told him yes, since no one was around to correct me. But dont tell Cornelius and Zira I said so! Travis also decided to climb up to the top of the couch like a kitty and watch forreasons. And during the first committee hearing, he got all up in my face with a Mickey Mouse hot dog car and made loud car noises. Never a dull moment with him." ~Stifled

"As weird of a direction the movie is for the series, it ends up being a good movie and a good contrast to the first movie. Having Zira and Cornelius as the protagonists is a great choice and I liked seeing them react and adapt to the human world and seeing how the humans react to and treat them. Drink Grape Juice Plus." ~JONA

"Planet of the Apes is a classic movie, but Escape managed to impress me a great deal, for a concept that really SHOULDNT have worked. I mean, sure, it pretty much ignores the entire first movie in the franchisebut whatever. The basic premise is enough to carry the plot. You get some light-hearted fun for the first half of the film, with Zira and Cornelius getting to highlight their personalities in the modern human world of the 1970s. But then things take a turn, and you know what? I actually like the characterization in this. Yes, there are a bunch of humans that are the antagonists, but I feel like theyre mostly portrayed as thinking rationally. It was extremely impressive to see the President (a character who easily couldve been a generic strawman) giving some reasonable arguments and sounding intelligent about scientific theory. Granted, I may have had my expectations lowered a fucking LOT recently, but still. I found the overall plot interesting and similarly in-line with how The Day the Earth Stood Still worked out." ~Inviso
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"A flawed but ultimately entertaining film, Escape serves as an interesting inversion of the first movie where the original portrayed a human being treated like an ape in a society run by apes, this one brings the apes to human society, flipping the script (especially on the themes that were explored in the original's trial sequence). What would it be like if a monkey were in court, and could understand everything that was going on and speak on his own behalf? The message is certainly blunter here (though it's subtler than Beneath, at least), and hand-waving the destruction of the planet via casual time travel, while typical for this series, is a bit lazy. Still, Cornelius and Zira are two of the best characters in the original Apes series, and they make good with their moment to be center-stage. I love the dark, depressing ending by this point the series has pretty clearly established its nihilism, and yet somehow the carnage at the end of this still managed to shock me. This isn't a great movie by any means, but it is an entertaining one and had enough twists and turns that I was never bored." ~KBM

"How do you make a 5-movie series after essentially abruptly ending it in the second entry? Your options are either 1. prequel or 2. time travel shenanigans. We got both! This film is weird the whole way through, but pretty easily has the most charm of all the weird sequels, despite also having one of the most ridiculous plots. Seeing the ape scientists hamming it up as instant celebrities was hilarious enough that I'm willing to forgive the goofiness of it in a movie that seems to want to take a dramatic turn. By the end, I was expecting a cliffhanger ending of the scientists on the run for future sequels and... that's not what I got. Goddamn, these movies have weird endings." ~Johnbobb

"Here is a weird blend of fish-outta-water comedy and all-us-humans-suck moralizing. After the destruction of the Planet of the Apes in Beneath, three chimpanzee scientists escape on James Franciscus rocket ship and are propelled back into Earths glorious past of 1973. The tone jumps all over the place as Roddy McDowell and Kim Hunter navigate their newfound celebrity as time traveling apes. The media lavishes them with gifts while the government begins to freak out about the inevitable doom they represent. Just as theyre starting to settle into their environment, a human hunting party is formed, and both Cornelius and Zira are chased down in what has to be one of the harshest conclusions in cinematic history. There is a glimpse of hope as their son Milo is hidden away within Ricardo Montalbans circus, but naturally, for this series, the sequel would reveal only more sorrow." ~Scarlet

Oh, I'd like to help, I really would. But I don't know the first thing about this place's history. Don't let my age fool you; I may have been around for a while, but I didn't spend all that time here! You're hurt. Fortunately, this is a medical clinic. Why don't you let me take a look at that. Don't get any cute ideas. Security is just a shout away. ~Doctor Preston
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So they decided to make a sequel to the second film, y'know, the one where the Earth blew up and everyone died? In the immortal words of Bubsy T Bobcat: 'What could possibly go wrong?'
Hahaha, oh boy.
So what happens is Zira & friends find Taylor's old spaceship, somehow fix it and launch it into space with no knowledge of rocket science or even understanding of basic flight, and then use to to travel back in fucking time to California in the 1970s.
It is laughable how quickly everyone on earth just up and accepts the talking chimps from outer space and doesnt just immediately shoot, dissect, or accuse them of being communists. This is especially blasphemous in the case of this series, which in general takes a very poor view of the nature of humanity.
It takes learning the grim details of the future ape society and the accidental death of a man before humans show the slightest ill will towards our monkey friends, and even then it is just one bigoted psychopath who has it in for them.
Zira and Cornelius then also wreck god knows what havoc on the space-time continuum by bearing a child and becoming their own ancestors.
This is an abomination to the franchise in every sense of the word, and to say it was like they turned someone's horrible fanfiction into a movie would be far too kind, not to mention insulting to fanfiction everywhere. ~Karo
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Escape is soooo good. It really is extraordinary to get a sequel of that calibre with such a ridiculous-sounding premise.
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=( lame

James Franco pretending to be smart is way too high.
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I tried to escape the outlier, but it dawned on me that I need to do it.

Stifled- 13
JONA- 10
Wickle- 10
Johnbobb- 9
Scarlet- 9
Karo- 8
Inviso- 7
KBM- 2
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Goddamn I'm cookie-cutter on this one.

Any takers on what'll be top 2?

Original
Rise
War
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I'm gonna say

Original
War
Rise

Original seems like the least divisive
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War
Original
Rise
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Seeing how this is going, probably:

War
Rise
Original
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Rise
War
Original
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Still sad no one noticed my little thing with Escape's rankings. Or at least pointed it out.
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I noticed it. I noticed that you're the worst. :D
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#3. Rise of the Planet of the Apes (2011)
Johnbobb- 1
Wickle- 1
Inviso- 2
Karo- 2
KBM- 3
JONA- 4
Scarlet- 4
Stifled- 7

"This manages the tricky task of handling both an origin story and a franchise reboot, and it does both excellently. It's honestly one of the only films in the series that manages to make you care about the human characters as much as the apes, largely due to great performances by both Franco and Lithgow. But rather than handling the balance of the originals, where it was either about the humans or about the apes or sloppily about both, here we get a steady transition. The film gradually gets less about Franco and more about Caesar, until by the end Caesar has taken over (both in the story and in the film's focus). The "No!" scene might honestly be my favorite in the series. Even on a second viewing, it still gives me chills." ~Johnbobb

"What you see before you is the last bastion of hope for the downtrodden and misunderstood. I thank you for showing me that your kind can be trusted after all. It is a lesson I will not forget. People like you call for our extermination or reform. Reforming implies something is wrong with us and needs to be eliminated. I am afraid that the knowledge required to appreciate our true nature is far above your level of comprehension." ~Vance

"Yeah, this was pretty awesome. I love the fact that the movie is told from the perspective of Caesar as a main character. Yeah, were given the complete backstory as to how humanity fell by the wayside, but this story is all about the growth and development of reboot Caesar as a character. Andy Serkis does an amazing job of creating facial expressions and mo-cap artwork as he always does. I loved seeing Caesar learn and adapt to his changing situation, starting a prison riot and becoming king of Attica or whatever. John Lithgows Alzheimers disease of course made me feel feels, because thats my thing. And overall, this was just a really solid start to the reboot trilogy, and I hope it keeps up that pace for the other two films." ~Inviso

"In this origin story for the apes franchise, testing of Alzheimer's drugs on monkeys leads to the accidental creation of a super-intelligent simian named Caesar.
Caesar becomes the pet of one of the lab techs, but when he gets too big he gets hauled off to the zoo where he recruits the other monkeys to join him.
Humanity ends up mostly eradicated at the end thanks to the miracle drug for some reason being a potent bioweapon against humans, which makes zero sense given it was genetically tailored for use in humans and if anything the apes should have been the ones with adverse reactions. It honestly feels like an all-too-convenient deux ex machina in order to to bring about apeworld overnight, rather than it taking 2000 years.
Though the film has a modern tone, it is never disrespectful to the series as a whole, for example it uses the pandemic as the cause for the downfall of human civilization, rather than a dated nuclear armageddon, to tap more into the fears of the time from the audience.
You do not need to have seen the 60's movie to fully enjoy this, though there are tons of references and homages to be enjoyed by those who have.
This is probably as good of a modern adaptation of the series as you are going to get, and though it is not perfect it still tells a decent story, with probably the best mocap performance outside of Gollum." ~Karo
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"Surprisingly engaging for a modern reboot/origin story movie, Rise of the Planet of the Apes has its problems, but a lot of heart to make up for it. At the core of this story is a very moving father-son relationship between John Lithgow and James Franco's characters, as the latter tries to discover a cure to his father's Alzheimer's disease. I lost a beloved grandmother to Alzheimer's ten years ago, and two of my other grandparents died of dementia, so this storyline strikes a personal chord with me, and that aspect is played to perfection. This is some of James Franco's best work, thanks in large part to his chemistry with Lithgow, who's always great. Caesar is, of course, a triumph both of special effects and of physical acting from Andy Serkis (who really should have netted at least one Oscar nomination by now).

The one major point against this movie is Draco Malfoy himself, Tom Felton, who's badly miscast and distracting as all hell. His delivery of take your stinking paws off me, you damn dirty ape is memorably awful, and undercuts what otherwise might have been the best scene in the movie, as Caesar's first act of defiance comes immediately afterwards. The kinda haphazard writing and filmmaking gets cleaner as the reboot series continues, but this movie holds a special place in my heart." ~KBM

"The human characters are quite bland here, with the main characters being kinda likable but still bland. The real selling point is seeing how Caesar develops and it's done pretty well as its own different thing compared to the original series." ~JONA

"Taking the obligatory graphic detail approach to origin storytelling seen in Christopher Nolans Batman Begins, Rise of the Planet of the Apes chronicles in great detail the early steps that were taken by god-complexed scientists that arose the apes a few steps higher on the food chain. I remember thinking when I first saw the trailers, Why bother? However, as the sequels would continue to enforce, Rise has very little interest in connecting to the original saga, and we should all thank our lucky stars. Director Rupert Wyatt uses the impending doom of the Planet of the Apes to explore our inability to shed the fear of the other, and how a lack of compassion could result in disaster. Sure, the film probably spends too much time with James Francos well-meaning scientist, but as baby chimp Caesar needs a good portion of screen time to grow disenfranchised with humanity, the human players remain essential to engage the shame/disgust/sympathy of the audience. The combination of Wetas motion-capture workers and Andy Serkis performance solidifies this new era of digital makeup, and weve all been aching to see their game-changing work acknowledged since this films premiere." ~Scarlet

"Listen. I like James Franco and all, but come on. A scientist? Denise Richards as a nuclear physicist was more convincing than this. But with that aside, Rise was a good movie. Not great, mind you. But good. It was a nice start to the rest of the trilogy that followed. And while I typically hate remakes/reboots and initially scoffed at this new trilogy, it ended up winning me over. I particularly enjoyed the bridge battle towards the end.

Traviss Opinion: While on vacation, FX was showing a mini Planet of the Apes marathon. We caught Rise and Dawn before leaving to go eat dinner. While Travis tried to watch Dawn, he wasnt calm enough to watch any of Rise. He ran around the hotel room like a nut while Manda took a nap. I was the only one that watched the movie lol." ~Stifled
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Interesting. Im glad I was wrong about my predix.
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*sigh*
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I think Travis influences Stifled's rankings a lot tbh.
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How can he influence my ranking for Rise when he didn't even watch it? lmao
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WickIebee posted...

He ran around the hotel room like a nut

is how
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Sure, but I didn't need to watch him because he couldn't reach the deadbolt to open the hotel door and go outside. So I was able to watch the movie in peace.
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Yeah a distracting viewing environment can really color you on a movie

Like I actually disliked The Matrix the first time I saw it because I had a drunken rambler doing running commentary and I couldn't focus on the movie. Watched it again eventually and it was quite good. Sure there have been plenty of less jarring experiences too

Not that I'm saying you should remove your kid from the premises or anything! Just sayin it happens.
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I don't think you're not watching or anything so sinister. I'm just saying that I think his attitude influences your write-ups sometimes. If Travis had sat wide-eyed in wonderment during 2001, I bet you would have been a little softer on it.
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Haha no chance. Nothing was saving 2001 from the bottom. Not even him being like "Is that Chewbacca?!" to one of the apes and me busting out laughing could save it. It creates a fun memory that makes the viewing experience better, but it does not save the movie itself.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

I think Travis influences Stifled's rankings a lot tbh.

This has been obvious since the beginning of the project

I'm not sure where this is even coming from. Travis LOVED the Care Bears and you didn't see me keeping them out of the bottom 5 of my list for Karo's project.

If it's just because I was lower than everyone else on Rise, I liked Rise. Just not as much as most of the original movies. I'm not one of those newer is better types. I like what I like.
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It has more to do with the 40 rankings before this topic and the fact that your opinion ALWAYS seemed to relate either to Travis or to being a parent in some way or another. If it weren't for Wickle outdoing you in this I probably would've accused you of being fairly puritanical and/or reductive, but Wickle's writeups were actually worse in this regard (sans the parenting aspect).

I have no knowledge of the Care Bears movie or Karo's last project as I wasn't here.

Vengeful_KBM posted...

It has more to do with the 40 rankings before this topic and the fact that your opinion ALWAYS seemed to relate either to Travis or to being a parent in some way or another. If it weren't for Wickle outdoing you in this I probably would've accused you of being fairly puritanical and/or reductive, but Wickle's writeups were actually worse in this regard (sans the parenting aspect).

I have no knowledge of the Care Bears movie or Karo's last project as I wasn't here.

>_> the TRAVIS section talks about that stuff. Thats why it exists. I didnt let him watch the rated R movies because hes 2. My portion of the writeup said nothing about being a prude or whatever. My #1 was Terminator 2! Perhaps you only skim my writeups.
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All I'm saying is that there usually seemed to be a correlation. Nowhere did I say you should let your two-year-old watch Terminator 2. >_>;

I'm not saying it's as drastic of a change as some others are suggesting, but I think that people watching a movie with other people definitely are affected by it. Charon and Genny always seem to be affected by each other in their write-ups. How much? I think Charon has the ability to bring Genny's impression of a movie down by his general indifference or dislike of a movie. For me, I saw that in the Moon ranking where she didn't say a single negative thing about the film and yet still ranked it at about the exact same placement of Charon. Is that bad? No. It's just the nature of things. If Travis said, "Father, I am moved by the plight of Mr. James" during 12 Monkeys, I think you would have maybe given the film an even higher placement because you might have just thought about it a bit more. And a couple of the more cognitive films where Travis is doing something else, I think you maybe didn't care for them AS much because, as a father, you are influenced by your child. I see it in other parents with young children too.

Like, does that change my opinion of your, erm, opinions? Not really. Your experience is different and valuable to me in the way that other peoples' write-ups are. I don't like to be as cynically critical as Karo is about movies because I enjoy happiness in my life and I want to find the value in a movie. But Karo's heavily critical nature is nice because there are times where I probably over-romanticize a movie. I love to put characters and films on pedestals because to me that makes the world a happier, grander place. Karo doesn't. So sometimes it's probably prudent for me to read someone pounding the dirt in anger.
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Vengeful_KBM posted...

Wickle's writeups were actually worse in this regard

I mean... again, they aren't meant to be write-ups. They're literally an attempt to take a Fallout 3 character and produce their dialogue in a way that makes it seem like they're literally part of the movie. Can you honestly disagree that anyone from my jokes were not as if they were part of the movie?

Maybe I shouldn't do these projects at all. I do write-ups everyone bitches at me for the content, I don't do write-ups and people don't even read my goddamn opening post that straight up says you can ask for something if it really concerns you to know my opinion. I have write-ups for every movie, I don't like submitting them since I just become the ass of anyone's joke whenever I type.

That said, Stifled, what you wrote for Travis's write-up in Conquest directly correlates that you let him distract you throughout the movie, so honestly, don't even try to defend yourself.
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WickIebee posted...

I mean... again, they aren't meant to be write-ups. They're literally an attempt to take a Fallout 3 character and produce their dialogue in a way that makes it seem like they're literally part of the movie. Can you honestly disagree that anyone from my jokes were not as if they were part of the movie?

I think for a lot of people, they smack of War's write-ups for... Disney or Dreamworks? And I hated that concept because when I want to read peoples' opinions, I want to read peoples' opinions. I did ask about the one ranking because it seemed so out of left field, but it's asking a lot of people to go out of their way each time to say, "please provide us real answers" because there have been certain attitudes from ussers in the past that have caused a lot of us to be cautious of attempting to confront someone on their opinions in these rankings.

WickIebee posted...

Maybe I shouldn't do these projects at all. I do write-ups everyone bitches at me for the content, I don't do write-ups and people don't even read my goddamn opening post that straight up says you can ask for something if it really concerns you to know my opinion. I have write-ups for every movie, I don't like submitting them since I just become the ass of anyone's joke whenever I type.

You had an unusual perspective that made you of interest to people. Guess what? I've never been in that position. People would much rather talk to someone who is weird and out there and makes no bones about their position. People actually wanted to talk to you about you and you decided to say, "Hey, I have a good thing going so let me do my level worst to make write-ups no one will get. And not only not get, but also be so unimpressed with that they will try not to even say a word about it because of just how unimpressed they are." It's a very "this is what people DON'T like about Board 8 attitude." I think people watch these movies so they can glean a little bit of insight on themselves and the other people in this group. While I love humor, while I love the idea of doing something unique, I think there's a fine line between having a gimmick and being consumed by it. I did a gimmick on Karo's list, but at the same time I made sure that I shared my actual thoughts because I respect not only the effort the group made to participate, but also Karo's effort to curate and host a list. This mini-list almost smacks of not mattering simply because you gave what READS as low effort joke material.

Again, War did this years ago and everyone really detested it after about 2 write-ups.
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