Board 8 > Anagram plays Persona 3 (spoilers)

(+) Yeah! (+)

The P5 scene is more or less played for laughs. P4G's scene is way worse.
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Anagram posted...

He's also got a questionable voice actor, but I let it go because Fuuka is so much worse.

Maybe this is a ploy by the cunning devs to make everyone seem like they sound better.
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LeonhartFour posted...

Anagram posted...

LeonhartFour posted...

Shinji so good

Eh, I never liked NGE very much.

Good man.

i will not tolerate this hate on NGE shinji. You haven't even watched NGE!

Shinji better than most characters period tbqh. P3 Shinji also great though.

Also, I figured it went without saying that I've been reading/enjoying the topic. I'm just mostly commenting on mechanics and battle advice because I don't want to inadvertently spoil you by weighing in on much story stuff.
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xp1337 posted...

i will not tolerate this hate on NGE shinji. You haven't even watched NGE!

I have absolutely watched NGE. I did it with my friend when we were nineteen.
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That was to Leon, who last I heard, had not watched Evangelion!

or maybe i just lost my mind. hard to tell these days.
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xp1337 posted...

That was to Leon, who last I heard, had not watched Evangelion!

or maybe i just lost my mind. hard to tell these days.

My mistake, then.
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Doesn't mean I can't take jabs at it...!
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What affects if an ally feels great that night?
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It is predetermined and almost entirely arbitrary.
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Ah, sit down to play, miss an attack, fall over, get killed from 2/3rds health

Love this game
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Anagram posted...

Ah, sit down to play, miss an attack, fall over, get killed from 2/3rds health

Love this game

baby baby baby baby baby~
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My party is Mitsuru/Jukari/Aigis right now. Reminds me of the Tifa/Aeris/Yuffie days.
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I rolled with Mitsuru/Aigis/Akihiko more than anything else. They provide a pretty strong balance.
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I found it easiest to keep using the earliest characters, but I forced myself to start using Ken and Koro in my last playthrough, and it was fun. I do think Junpei, Yukari, and Akihiko would be my pick for the best team, but everyone is pretty close together ultimately, so you don't really lose out switching things around.
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Lately I've rolled with Yukari/Akihiko/Koromaru. But in terms of just a stronger party you probably want to sub Mitsuru or Aigis in for Koromaru, yeah. Aigis with Yukari doubles you up on Elec weakness (though on the flip side it also means there's one less element that can ruin your day) though if you take over healing because of Yukari's unreliability in clutch situations you could probably drop her instead (but you shouldn't drop the best character tbqh >_>)
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Got to the boss Sleeping Table, got my ass kicked, stopped for now. I've got to say, P3 bosses seem way harder than P5 bosses. In P5, I almost never felt in danger unless I was fighting stuff with low chance instant death spells.
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I feel like lacking direct control is the biggest factor. I don't think P3P is all that hard in comparison; P5 might be harder.
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Anagram posted...

Got to the boss Sleeping Table

Sleeping Table is arguably the hardest boss in the game lol. Way back at the start of the topic and you mentioned you were having trouble with a boss and someone asked "is it the table boss" this is what they meant.

IIRC, Sleeping Table is the one boss I consider a level/skill check. Without going to the in-depth level I have previously (I totally can if you continue to have trouble, I'm just doing this much off the top of my head is all and not cross-checking his move list or what persona has what abilities, etc.) I think this is just a straight test of your capacity to heal. I think I considered it "Don't have Mediarama? Well then you lose" because without it you simply can't keep your healing at pace with his damage.

Megidola simply has no tricks to it. There's no "fuse this Persona for a resistance" or "spam Magic Mirrors to protect yourself" you need to be able to have enough healing to survive him/enough DPS to burn him down. They mostly go hand-in-hand, but I focus on being able to heal.
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I sure don't have mediarama. I'm currently level 40, and my allies range from 32-38. Any suggested personas to train for mediarama/other stuff? I've only tried it once, and I got it down to 80%~ before dying.
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Looks like Saki Mitama is your only option for Mediarama, a level 39 Lovers Persona.

As usual, Tarunda and Rakunda are good spells against solo bosses, and fire and light resistance is desirable. The aforementioned party of Junpei, Yukari, and Akihiko seems like a likely choice. Mitsuru seems like a liability here.
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Yukari gets Mediarama at Level 43
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swirIdude posted...

Yukari gets Mediarama at Level 43

Grinding her up there sounds like a huge pain, but I could do it tomorrow if it's really necessary.

Sceptilesolar posted...

Looks like Saki Mitama is your only option for Mediarama, a level 39 Lovers Persona.

As usual, Tarunda and Rakunda are good spells against solo bosses, and fire and light resistance is desirable. The aforementioned party of Junpei, Yukari, and Akihiko seems like a likely choice. Mitsuru seems like a liability here.

Yeah, I can see that party. Thanks. I'm gonna try to beat the boss without some complicated grinding thing, but if it comes down to it, so be it. I want to avoid needing a high level lovers persona because I only have lovers at rank 1.
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Anagram posted...

I sure don't have mediarama. I'm currently level 40, and my allies range from 32-38. Any suggested personas to train for mediarama/other stuff? I've only tried it once, and I got it down to 80%~ before dying.

I can... try. Bizarrely (and this has been a problem I've had to work around the other times too) there's no complete list of FES's compendium with skills/level on GameFAQs. There's one for the original P3 but IIRC it is not always going to match up with FES. (Some of this is because FES added a new Arcana and some Persona got shuffled around) I... think... it's mostly compatible though. Hopefully it is.

Before getting into your options there, let's take a look at Sleeping Table's Arsenal: Megidola (Again, there's no tricks here you just eat it. You can debuff Sleeping Table with Tarunda/buff yourself with Rakukaja but that is it), Maragidyne (Tier 3 Fire Spell that hits all), Hamaon (Single Target Light Insta-kill), Evil Smile (Chance of Fear to all), and Ghastly Wail (Insta-kill on any feared character).

He blocks Strike (Akihiko's normal attack, is strong against the other physical types, and also strong to Fire.) Junpei's out right off the bat because that's an awful set for him. Koro too. Probably want to roll with Yukari, Ahikiro, and Aigis.

Back to the Persona.

Leanan Sidhe is a Level 33 Empress Persona that will learn Mediarama at 38. This is... probably not ideal though because you'll have no S-Link Bonus on fusion so you'd have to level it the hard way.

Saki Mitama, if he's the same as the P3 guide, is a tempting choice. Level 39 Lovers Persona. Learns Mediarama at 42. I think a Lovers Rank of about 6 gets you there. Even if you're not that far in Yukari's link (and you probably aren't) it'll help a bit. It also has a resistance to fire and comes with Zionga which you can use for offense.

You can use Magic Mirror as a defense to his non-Megidola spells. Also, depending on your item situation you can try to forgo Mediarama if you have a ton of Bead Chains and don't mind using a ton on this fight. They're full HP recovery for the whole team.

Argh, this would be a lot easier for me to strategize around with a Persona Compendium I knew I could trust. FWIW, the FES FAQ is considerably overlevelled to you. They recommend leveling to 50 for this fight (they essentially fuse a Persona that can block all of Sleeping Table's **** and just use items to heal through Megidola) they have an "alt" fusion of a Level 44 Persona (Okuninushi) but from memory I think that's a physical type Persona and may not be able to inherit Mediarama so you'd have to again go the item route. (And also probably get some other skills over to it to make it viable)

I will say that as an absolute last resort, levelling is an option here. Megidola may have no tricks, but the level difference between you and your enemy is a major component of the damage formula. It has Sleeping Table listed at Level 50. If true, that's the main reason it's grinding you to dust. A +10 advantage is huge in the damage formula. Just closing the gap would help your survivability considerably regardless of any other preparation.
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I suppose, alternatively, you could take Junpei and Koromaru precisely because they'll have a resistance to fire, but their damage output will be crap because they'll also be firing into Sleeping Table's strengths. I feel like at your current level though you can't win that kind of war of attrition.
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Anagram posted...

I only have lovers at rank 1.

... but why
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Thanks, xp.

Fused and leveled a Saki Mitama, it has mediarama, but does that tired half my team out, so I'll continue with Tartarus later. Learned through the course of this that Koromaru says "Woof, woof!" to indicate the chance for an all-out attack, I love it. Also got me to level 44. Took about 90 minutes of solid grinding.
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Peace___Frog posted...

Anagram posted...

I only have lovers at rank 1.

... but why

I'm not super impressed by Yukari, but I may increase her rank.
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Koromaru is great. I like him better than half the human party members.
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Beat Sleeping Table and finished the current section of Tartarus. Thanks for the advice on mediarama. With it, the fight was actually kind of easy.
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Glad it helped. While Tartarus still has some tough bosses, I wasn't joking when I said Sleeping Table was a contender for the hardest in the game. Hopefully things go smoother for you from here out.
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You know, one thing that's funny to me is the idea that all of these monsters are born from human thought. Really, you'd see more Batmans and Homer Simpsonses than these obscure demons from theology.
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KamikazePotato posted...

Koromaru is great. I like him better than half the human party members.

I've barely used him, to be honest. Yukari is the only person I've always been using, and mainly because her healing is useful.
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Yeah, solid healing is almost always a necessity here. There are times I just turn the MC into a dedicated healer and let the others as DPS.
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Raka_Putra posted...

Yeah, solid healing is almost always a necessity here. There are times I just turn the MC into a dedicated healer and let the others as DPS.

I can't recall the last turn-based RPG I played with computer-controlled allies. It's just such a bad idea.
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Raka_Putra posted...

Yeah, solid healing is almost always a necessity here. There are times I just turn the MC into a dedicated healer and let the others as DPS.

I've never played non-Portable P3 and frankly, I probably never will

but if I did, this would 100% be my strategy.

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Raka_Putra posted...

Yeah, solid healing is almost always a necessity here. There are times I just turn the MC into a dedicated healer and let the others as DPS.

I can't recall the last turn-based RPG I played with computer-controlled allies. It's just such a bad idea.

I enjoyed it, for what it's worth! It's a fun gimmick though annoying at times, which is like many other gimmicky gameplay elements in JRPGs.
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Yeah when I play P3 my MC is mostly healing/support for boss fights.
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By the way, it was weird to set up a student event and then just say lol typhoon
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Such is life in glorious Japan Empire.
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Does this scene with Chihiro and Yuko during the festival cleanup always happen, or did it happen because I had Chihiro at 10 and Yuko at 4? Because I didn't have any kind of romantic relationship with Yuko, but she still got jealous and the boys had to step in to divert her attention. I remember people saying there was no consequence for having multiple girlfriends in P3.
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I'm pretty sure it happens regardless.
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LeonhartFour posted...

I'm pretty sure it happens regardless.

Well that's pretty weird, then. Thanks.
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Made it to 10/3, the day before a new moon. Gonna stop for the night.
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Do the tarot lessons from the nurse do anything useful?
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Anagram posted...

Do the tarot lessons from the nurse do anything useful?

Iiii think it's just trivia. But I might be wrong.
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We finally learn that Ken's dead relative isn't a sister, as I speculated, but his mom, and that Shinjiro killed her by accident. Now he's out for revenge, and Shinjiro tells him to just do it. The Strega guy who looks like Jesus (he has a name, but I can't see anything except Jesus, especially when he starts talking about salvation) shows up and says Shinjiro will die from the persona-suppressing drugs anyway, and I love Ken's reaction of "that's not fair, I wanted to kill him."

Even though Jesus is so good at reading people that he can tell Ken plans to commit suicide l later, when he asks which party member can find shadows psychically, he believes him. He takes a shot, but Shinjiro jumps in front of the bullet. Everyone shows up in a poorly-animated cutscene, and Shinjiro dies.

"C'mon, kid, you're just a kid." Is this the successor to "People die when they are killed?"

And then everyone went to school the next day like normal, and somehow the school is aware that a student died and has a memorial already set up. Does... does the school just keep dozens of wreathes ready in a closet just in case?

Overall, Shinjiro's death is an effective scene, and the game even returned his gear to me.
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New topic:
https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/77346337
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Boop
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