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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/03/18 11:36:08 PM
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preferred Trump over Clinton.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/senate-intel-russia-interfered-2016-election-preferred-trump-over-clinton

The Senate Intelligence Committee released its summary of its review of the U.S. intelligence community's January 2017 assessment that Russia interfered in the 2016 U.S. presidential election.

In a press release, the panel, led by Sens. Richard Burr, R-N.C., and Mark Warner, D-Va., said that the judgments in the intelligence communitys assessment were well-supported and the tradecraft was strong.

The Senate Intelligence Committee has been reviewing the assessment for 16 months, and Burr, the panel's chairman, said it sees no reason to dispute the conclusions.

The panel said it supports the assessment that Russian efforts to influence the 2016 election represent the most recent expression of Moscows longstanding desire to undermine the U.S.-led liberal democratic order, but these activities demonstrated a significant escalation in directness, level of activity, and scope of effort compared to previous operations.

Further, the Senate intelligence panel said it agrees with the finding that Russian President Vladimir Putin ordered the interference campaign, with the goals of undermining public faith in the U.S. democratic process, as well as denigrate Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

[T]he ICs [assessment] provided a range of all-source reporting to support these assessments, said the Senate Intelligence Committee.

The intelligence community was also correct when it said Putin and his government aspired to help Republican nominee Donald Trump, who went on to beat Clinton, said the Senate Intelligence Committee.

As numerous intelligence and national security officials in the Trump administration have since unanimously re-affirmed, the ICA findings were accurate and on point. The Russian effort was extensive and sophisticated, and its goals were to undermine public faith in the democratic process, to hurt Secretary Clinton and to help Donald Trump, said Warner, adding that the investigation is still ongoing.

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Mead
07/03/18 11:37:12 PM
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Gasp
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/03/18 11:39:05 PM
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Mead posted...
Gasp

Gasp indeed. Can't forget @Zeus
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Andromicus
07/03/18 11:42:55 PM
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Butter eel males
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FrndNhbrHdCEman
07/03/18 11:46:53 PM
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Andromicus posted...
Butter eel males

That a British sex act?
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ClarkDuke
07/04/18 7:02:23 PM
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Blightzkrieg
07/04/18 7:03:18 PM
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ClarkDuke posted...
surprised @Zeus isn't defending the fiasco, ok?

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ClarkDuke
07/04/18 7:04:23 PM
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Blightzkrieg posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
surprised @Zeus isn't defending the fiasco, ok?

Awaiting orders from the party secretary.

i forgot, great point, ok?
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Digimon
07/04/18 7:11:14 PM
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Mead posted...
Gasp
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ClarkDuke
07/04/18 7:13:53 PM
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TES_Nut
07/04/18 8:19:23 PM
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Womp womp
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Zareth
07/04/18 8:19:52 PM
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You don't say.
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Judgmenl
07/04/18 8:25:01 PM
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Wow this is NEW AND INTERESTING.
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adjl
07/04/18 8:27:23 PM
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What a surprising outcome.
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Mofuji
07/04/18 8:30:44 PM
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You mean you can just make up evidence to fit your narrative when you're so high up in the chain of political power?

Naw.
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Phantom_Nook
07/04/18 9:16:31 PM
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Mofuji posted...
fayk nooz!!!!!

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Digimon
07/04/18 9:22:39 PM
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Mofuji posted...
You mean you can just make up evidence to fit your narrative when you're so high up in the chain of political power?

Naw.

where is your proof that it's made up?

do you have any sort of idea what they looked through to come to this conclusion?

is this related to you in some form?

what are your credentials?
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RoboXgp89
07/04/18 10:26:03 PM
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wiki leaks gave us that info for free a few months after the election lol
they said Russia had info on trump but chose to release info on hilary to make trump the president and make the country weaker/less reputable
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eli_loves_ddr
07/04/18 11:31:11 PM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
Mead posted...
Gasp

Gasp indeed. Can't forget @Zeus

*Popcorn*
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SushiSquid
07/04/18 11:34:11 PM
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The people who already know this aren't surprised. The people who insist on not believing the truth will continue to believe that anyone reporting it is lying.
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InfernalFive
07/04/18 11:46:19 PM
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How is this news? This has been known for over a year now.
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KaptainKiro
07/05/18 12:07:56 AM
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isn't this a big fat nothingburger? lol

it leaves out what Russia actually did to "interfere" and how much of an effect it actually had on the election lol

like, didnt they say the interference was like 9 false Facebook accts or somethin?
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JixHedgehog
07/05/18 12:12:50 AM
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... and who's job was it to prevent all that?
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Mead
07/05/18 12:13:00 AM
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How interesting that they just so happened to announce these findings right before a holiday

Im sure there was no motive to that at all
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SKARDAVNELNATE
07/05/18 12:22:31 AM
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with the goals of undermining public faith in the U.S. democratic process,

The US didn't need Russian interference for that to happen. If the democratic process had been done fairly Hillary Clinton wouldn't have been nominated to begin with and Trump wouldn't have gained the popularity he did for challenging her.
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RoboXgp89
07/05/18 12:29:34 AM
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America Again, Re-elect Donald Trump.
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Bugmeat
07/05/18 12:34:50 AM
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KaptainKiro posted...
isn't this a big fat nothingburger? lol

it leaves out what Russia actually did to "interfere" and how much of an effect it actually had on the election lol

like, didnt they say the interference was like 9 false Facebook accts or somethin?

And this is the important information. What did they do? Just talking shit and leaking dirty deeds of one candidate doesn't mean much. Yeah, it's technically interfering. But anybody who publicly talks shit about a candidate is "interfering". That sort of stuff made up a large percentage of each candidates entire campaign. Talking shit and pointing out stuff the other one did.

I want to know the extent of the Russian interference.
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IceDragon77
07/05/18 2:01:01 AM
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So what happens now? Is Trump impeached? Is there a new election?
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ZackMorris
07/05/18 2:07:15 AM
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It sounds like there were bribes and Mitch McConnell received money from Russia. What a prince.
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McSame_as_Bush
07/05/18 2:09:39 AM
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Mofuji posted...
You mean you can just make up evidence to fit your narrative when you're so high up in the chain of political power?

Naw.


That's Trump for ya
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McSame_as_Bush
07/05/18 2:10:56 AM
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Mead posted...
How interesting that they just so happened to announce these findings right before a holiday

Im sure there was no motive to that at all


You know the guy in charge of the investigation is a Republican, right?
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ZackMorris
07/05/18 2:13:18 AM
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JixHedgehog posted...
... and who's job was it to prevent all that?

The mob with torches.
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Kyuubi4269
07/05/18 2:14:42 AM
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FrndNhbrHdCEman posted...
D-Va

So Overwatch players were collecting intel?
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streamofthesky
07/05/18 3:18:09 AM
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ClarkDuke posted...
Blightzkrieg posted...
ClarkDuke posted...
surprised @Zeus isn't defending the fiasco, ok?

Awaiting orders from the party secretary.

i forgot, great point, ok?

Wonder what he'll say.

"Yeah, so what...everyone already knew this stuff already. This isn't news."

Or perhaps:

"They didn't say Trump knowingly colluded, so this whole thing is still a witch hunt!"

Maybe he'll really go for refuge in audacity and claim that it's a good thing Putin "saved us" from a Clinton presidency.
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Rasmoh
07/05/18 3:24:26 AM
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Bugmeat posted...
But anybody who publicly talks shit about a candidate is "interfering".


This is exactly why this would be the exact definition of "fake news". If we're going to use exceedinly loose broad guidelines for "interfering", any celebrity that partook in an effort to get Hillary elected "interfered" in the same regards, if not more. Vicente Fox "interfered" by shit-talking Trump on Twitter. It's all bullshit.
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Amuseum
07/05/18 11:11:06 AM
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It's more like bringing balance to election. Native USA intel supported one candidate. Russia felt pity for other candidates had no chance with lopsided bias, and so wanted to give the unfavored candidates just a sliver of hope.
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Smarkil
07/05/18 11:20:25 AM
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They never say how they 'interfered'. Cause if making memes counts as interfering then it's gonna be a real shitshow goin forward.
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Veedrock-
07/05/18 11:24:24 AM
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Amuseum posted...
Native USA intel supported one candidate.

AKA Reddit.
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TheOrangeMisfit
07/05/18 11:26:42 AM
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Can't believe there are people still going on about this. Also lol at those two circle jerkers in the opening posts

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IceDragon77
07/05/18 12:09:39 PM
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Amuseum posted...
It's more like bringing balance to election. Native USA intel supported one candidate. Russia felt pity for other candidates had no chance with lopsided bias, and so wanted to give the unfavored candidates just a sliver of hope.

Wait, are all Trump supporters really this naive?

Russia/Putin felt that a Trump leadership would be disastrous, so they made sure he won. And they were right! The US is a freaking shell of it's former self. Literally every chance Trump had to do the right thing, he did the exact opposite. Also, having no allies is a problem. Like, your best relationship right now is with Russia (Because they handed Trump the presidency, so he owes them) and North Korea (that one is quite rocky). Europe hates you, Canada mildly dislikes you (which is Canadian for "hate"), Mexico hates you, etc. etc.
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Zareth
07/05/18 12:12:28 PM
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As some comedian pointed out, America being upset that a foreign power interfered in their election is one of the most hilarious things to ever happen in politics.
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Andromicus
07/05/18 12:13:15 PM
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IceDragon77 posted...
Amuseum posted...
It's more like bringing balance to election. Native USA intel supported one candidate. Russia felt pity for other candidates had no chance with lopsided bias, and so wanted to give the unfavored candidates just a sliver of hope.

Wait, are all Trump supporters really this naive?

Russia/Putin felt that a Trump leadership would be disastrous, so they made sure he won. And they were right! The US is a freaking shell of it's former self. Literally every chance Trump had to do the right thing, he did the exact opposite. Also, having no allies is a problem. Like, your best relationship right now is with Russia (Because they handed Trump the presidency, so he owes them) and North Korea (that one is quite rocky). Europe hates you, Canada mildly dislikes you (which is Canadian for "hate"), Mexico hates you, etc. etc.

But MAGA
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Smarkil
07/05/18 12:37:07 PM
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IceDragon77 posted...
Wait, are all Trump supporters really this naive?

Russia/Putin felt that a Trump leadership would be disastrous, so they made sure he won. And they were right! The US is a freaking shell of it's former self. Literally every chance Trump had to do the right thing, he did the exact opposite. Also, having no allies is a problem. Like, your best relationship right now is with Russia (Because they handed Trump the presidency, so he owes them) and North Korea (that one is quite rocky). Europe hates you, Canada mildly dislikes you (which is Canadian for "hate"), Mexico hates you, etc. etc.


Saying the US has no allies because of Trump is stupid.

The people that run those countries aren't stupid. They know Trump will last, at the most, 8 years. They're not going to torpedo their relationship with the US because of one idiot president. These other individual countries get more out of being allied with the US than the US gets out of being allied with them.

They'll just wait out the doofus and go back to being our doting allies.
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Blighboy
07/05/18 12:44:06 PM
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Smarkil posted...
IceDragon77 posted...
Wait, are all Trump supporters really this naive?

Russia/Putin felt that a Trump leadership would be disastrous, so they made sure he won. And they were right! The US is a freaking shell of it's former self. Literally every chance Trump had to do the right thing, he did the exact opposite. Also, having no allies is a problem. Like, your best relationship right now is with Russia (Because they handed Trump the presidency, so he owes them) and North Korea (that one is quite rocky). Europe hates you, Canada mildly dislikes you (which is Canadian for "hate"), Mexico hates you, etc. etc.


Saying the US has no allies because of Trump is stupid.

The people that run those countries aren't stupid. They know Trump will last, at the most, 8 years. They're not going to torpedo their relationship with the US because of one idiot president. These other individual countries get more out of being allied with the US than the US gets out of being allied with them.

They'll just wait out the doofus and go back to being our doting allies.

Except they know that can flip back again in the next 4 to 8 years. Why bother.
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Amuseum
07/05/18 3:12:09 PM
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anti-Trumpers are really naive.

you think this is the first time Russia interfered with propaganda? like don't you know about the Cold War, and why spy fiction and movies became so popular in that era.
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ForteEXE3850
07/05/18 3:28:09 PM
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Every country that has the funds to do it interferes in international affairs.

The U.S. included, if not the most of any country in the world.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/17/sunday-review/russia-isnt-the-only-one-meddling-in-elections-we-do-it-too.html

That said, Russia not liking a country that is constantly using them as a scapegoat because they rejected being part of a globalized government was obvious.
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Lil69Leo
07/05/18 3:34:25 PM
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Amuseum posted...
anti-Trumpers are really naive.

you think this is the first time Russia interfered with propaganda? like don't you know about the Cold War, and why spy fiction and movies became so popular in that era.


Yep and collusion is cool.
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ClarkDuke
07/05/18 5:36:54 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Maybe he'll really go for refuge in audacity and claim that it's a good thing Putin "saved us" from a Clinton presidency.

My money's on this, ok?

Rasmoh posted...
Bugmeat posted...
But anybody who publicly talks shit about a candidate is "interfering".


This is exactly why this would be the exact definition of "fake news". If we're going to use exceedinly loose broad guidelines for "interfering", any celebrity that partook in an effort to get Hillary elected "interfered" in the same regards, if not more. Vicente Fox "interfered" by shit-talking Trump on Twitter. It's all bullshit.

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SKARDAVNELNATE
07/05/18 6:37:48 PM
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streamofthesky posted...
Maybe he'll really go for refuge in audacity and claim that it's a good thing Putin "saved us" from a Clinton presidency.

This, absolutely. If Russia had done anything to assist Trump it only re-balanced an election that had already been manipulated.
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Blighboy
07/05/18 7:18:05 PM
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Russia is a bit like humanity's collective conscience. It acts as a supernatural force to correct unhealthy aspects of the human superconscious. They're sort of like the Rey, while Trump is the Kylo Ren and Clinton was Snoke.
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