Board 8 > Han continues watching the MCU 2 (digi)

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Cool review.

Your rankings look a lot like mine. I also have Cap 3 right below Cap 2.

This film started the trend of great MCU villains. It was much needed.

I was also team Stark, though late AoS seasons made me like the Soccovia Accords a little less. But like, in this universe they are less like vigilantes and more like a specialized military. It doesn't make sense for them not to be bound to the law. SHIELD used to do that job, but without them, they need a replacement.

Just a heads up, I'm not sure Han has finished S3 so you might want to edit some of that stuff out.

@ZeldaTPLink
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I really don't think Team Iron Man had much of a leg to stand on at all in Civil War because their position just flat out made no sense but I won't get on my soapbox about that here.

I'm just glad to see someone else that likes the Cap/Widow pairing.
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Civil War is my favorite MCU movie personally

Winter Soldier is probably my favorite of the MCU movies, but Civil War is easily the most interesting. So many dynamics, so much to converse about, every character had arcs and subarcs and relationships that factored into decision-making and pathos and AHHH!

I love it.
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it's really interesting how many people say civil war sucked because there was no debate since Iron Man was so obviously correct but... I think Iron Man was wrong!

Both sides were done pretty well.
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CoolCly posted...

it's really interesting how many people say civil war sucked because there was no debate since Iron Man was so obviously correct but... I think Iron Man was wrong!

Both sides were done pretty well.

Pssh. Who cares about the Sokovia accords?

It's about loss and how individuals deal when important people in their lives pass away.

How Cap loses the love of his life and the future past he never had, and the struggles he would go through to protect and fight for the ideals they share and the common people they know. He holds on.

How Tony struggles to deal with the loss of his mother and things left unsaid, the absence of the rock in his life Pepper, the potential dissolution of the family he made with the Avengers, the accident that took out Rhodey, and when he finds out how his parents died and that his friend, the one who knew his father long before he did, kept this information for so long and chose someone over him, yet another person in his life tossing him aside. He acts out.

How T'Challa, in such a very short time, is the antithesis to Stark where he knows his father loves him, his father is proud of him, and knows his father knows that his son loves him and is proud of him in turn. He suffers loss, but isn't broken by it. He bends and seeks vengeance, but sees how destructive it is and how that is not a person his father would want him to be. He moves forward.

How we all know the story of Uncle Ben, and Peter is making sure he tries to do the best he can for his late father figure and be a force for good and responsibility.

How Zemo is haunted by the loss of his loved ones and seeks to do to the people that did this to him as much as he can to truly make them feel even a modicum of the damage they did to him. He is a driven villain who is in so much pain that he cannot grieve.

How Wanda loses control of her power (or wasn't able to sustain the explosion really) and is sheltered, protected, against her own will, unable to have any further agency of her own.

How Vision maintains that level of protection and overwatch, but when he is unable to protect the one he cares for, he loses control and doesn't aim his blast of emotion. His and Wanda's loss of control are mirrored in the damage their power has.

How Bucky loses his mind and is unable to control his actions.

Okay, I'm rambling, and it's not just about that. There's so mcuh more, but honestly, the Sokovia accords were, in my opinion, the weakest part of the movie and only a MacGuffin.
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Team Cap 4 lyfe.

I still get chills everytime I see the scene from the trailer with Cap and Bucky sharing the shield in their Iron Man beatdown.
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The absolute best part is the Giant-Man scene.

As a matter of fact, I'm gonna go watch it on youtube right now. Again.
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Best scene is still Sam and Bucky cheesing when Cap kisses Sharon.

Iron Man's actions made perfect sense. He was losing everything and he did what he had to to keep his friends together. Problem is, Cap had to go rogue.

I don't think the Accords were the right compromise. If the Avengers agreed, they could act together and request a new compromise.

So to that end, I guess I would be Team Cap. But really, I'm team negotiate for a different deal.
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neither team is as undeniably "right" as their supporters make it out to be, really.

i'm still team cap tho
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So the actress who plays Daisy is dating Logan Paul

*deep sigh*
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She joined the Logang
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davidponte posted...

Just a heads up, I'm not sure Han has finished S3 so you might want to edit some of that stuff out.

@ZeldaTPLink

Oh damn I mistook you and Han. Sorry.

Gamefaqs won't let me edit it anymore tho.

You should be able to delete it entirely still.
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This Inhuman guy is swinging around a flaming chain like Ghost Rider.
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Uh oh, Yo-yo just put her necklace, the one we saw in Daisy's vision, in Mack's hands!
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Fuck that necklace!
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Season finale time!

I see they're going to pass the necklace back and forth and keep everyone guessing who's going to die.

Fitz + Talbot is the best pair in history.

Awww Ward's memories... he DID care for the team. This solution was pretty good - get Hive's brains jumbled then drop gel on him.

Yo-yo is REALLY strong.

Lincoln just gave the "I'm retiring after this" speech. For what it's worth, this necklace is dramatic irony done right.

Ugghhh Daisy no.
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Ugh, Yo-yo no :(

omg poor Fitz was brought along with May onto the Zephyr

This Dr. Radcliffe guy is kinda goofy but I like him.

FITZ JUST SHOT THE FUCK OUT OF IRON CHEF GUY

FITZ IS THE IRON CHEF
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Now Daisy has the jacket and necklace!

Hive FINALLY revealed his face!f Aaaaand he's pretty cute. I'd stroke those tentacles, if you know what I mean.

Lincoln no! Ugh this scene with Daisy and Lincoln... my heart is breaking </3

SHOTGUN AXE

omg no Lincoln

I knew it. He gave the retirement speech... (also ZeldaTPLink totally fucking ruined it)

This scene is so heartwrenching. I'm a fan of LincolnXDaisy now :(

And so, good bye, Lincoln from Cincinnati. What a beautiful scene.

6 MONTHS LATER I guess Daisy is a supervillain now. Also, new hair since changing her hair is her thing.

Also Radcliffe apparently made a body for an AI.
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Holy ****...

He is the Iron Chef chairman!!!
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I wish they would have at least handwaved some excuse for why they didnt call in any bigger names to help with Hive. He seemed like an Avengers-level threat.
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"we can't afford to have our hands tied by the accords right now"

may literally handwaved it away for you
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But even before the Accords really

As soon as they knew this dude got back from Maveth, thats an Avengers call IMO
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They should have just had a character say that it's "not within S.H.I.E.L.D.'s budget" and then have them continuously wink at the camera for a full minute.
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I'm totally in a different camp than you because I was quite happy when Lincoln died. Didn't think he's a great actor and his romance plot with Daisy just bored me to tears.
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I've always liked Lincoln because he's from Cincinnati, like me. I think his death was a good decision though.

Hive's true threat didn't reveal itself until civil war came around. And the only avenger left after that was Tony... and I guess Vision, but the whole "no time for the accords" thing.
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Dr. Radcliffe is awesome and it took me forever to realize he's the dude that played Evie's greedy brother in the Brendan Fraser Mummy movies.

S4 hype! The first episode has one of my favorite single lines in the show.
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Wow sorry for the spoiler dude I was really caught unprepared by another guy being just 3 episodes ahead of you and posting reviews in the same page.

Gonna be more careful now.

I thought killing Lincoln was a bit lazy since he was the new guy but I didn't like him than much anyway.

ZeldaTPLink posted...

Wow sorry for the spoiler dude I was really caught unprepared by another guy being just 3 episodes ahead of you and posting reviews in the same page.

Gonna be more careful now.

It's ok I forgive you. :)

If I HAD to guess, I would've guessed Lincoln, easily.
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Oh I still have to do my season wrap-up
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I really liked Hive's final scene. He's just like "yep, you got me. let's just chill I guess."

I started off kinda liking Lincoln, as he really added to the wholesome vibe of Afterlife along with Gordo, but he was a little too whitebread. I eventually began not liking him because they were being so.... drawn out with him. They took SOOO long to actually have him join the team when that's clearly what they were driving at with him.

I did like the back and forth relationship he had with Coulson where the boss man is trying to get Lincoln to really understand what it means to be in SHIELD and if that's what he really wants.

I just wasn't too crazy about the Skye/Lincoln pairing either. It just felt like Skye was less interesting whenever he was around her.

His final scene was great though.... as I started the post with!
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Man, I guess I will never understand why people like Civil War.
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scarletspeed7 posted...

Man, I guess I will never understand why people like Civil War.

Fun action scenes.
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Season 3 is great. Season 4 is one of the best media consumptions Ive ever had.
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that's just stupid
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I know. But I dont watch a lot of shows so I heavily invest when I do.
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It's a bot, Viv.
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Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. season 3

It's been a few days, so this might be a little more summary than not.

I really loved this season. It felt like the direction was a lot more clear than season 2. The general flow of everything felt really strong, so that even when a conflict was settled, it didn't feel like there was a lull as it led into the next thing.

Daisy name change was annoying, but it's... bearable. I love how Coulson is the only one who doesn't really do well with it. Old coot. Skye is just... a name she chose for herself, that defines a lot of who she is... and Daisy is a name she adopted when she found out who she was. That choice of fate over self-direction bothers me, though I guess it matches really well with the theme of this season.

The theme of course, being that fate is determined and you can't do anything to alter the course of events. The Inhumans following intelligent design, being able to see the future and do nothing to change it, Hive being unable to win... It all clearly points to this idea that everyone is just a pawn in same greater plan. That's the opposite of how this trope usually goes, so good on that? It feels a little depressing, though.

Simmons was rescued from Maveth REALLY fast. It makes sense given how long they needed to set up Hive, but man it... just happened really fast.

The ATCU plotline in the beginning was solid. A good way to get things going - have this organization in opposition to SHIELD, and paint Lash as a bad guy as well. Shift ATCU to being a semi-partner, while preparing to have them be taken advantage of by HYDRA again... and so it happened. Rosalind and Banks were quality characters who were taken away really quick. Would have liked a little more time with Ros, but they used her well for the time she had.

I wasn't really sure I knew what was going on with Ward. I guess he... actually felt like he was making a connection with what's her name from season 2, and so he was really driven by revenge against Coulson? And in the end, after everything he had worked for his whole life was proven to be not worth it... Garrett, HYDRA, even turning away from SHIELD... working to do something for Hive was just desperation in him seeking a purpose to his life? Regardless, Ward was kinda in a weird place, so writing him out was a good direction, and they even managed to keep the actor around for the whole season!

LincolnXDaisy was a weird couple. It worked out in the end, but honestly, as the show goes on, Daisy is the only character where I feel like they aren't quite sure what to do with. She was always going to become Quake (btw, a new Disney XD cartoon has her as a character along with SpiderGwen, Squirrel Girl, and Ms. Marvel and it also stars Chloe Bennett and looks like it might not be bad), but Skye was great in season 1. During her transition in season 2... it was still good, though a little weird how it affected her. Season 3... they had done so much development with her that it seemed like they had no idea what to do. I GET Lincoln and Daisy falling in love, but it was weird how they did it.

Lincoln was also kind of an awkward character that stuck around following s2 and they needed to do something with him. His flirtation with being a SHIELD agent was weird, but it was very clear he was just there for Daisy. The best part about him was his sacrifice. A great way to go, to save everyone. Gave his life the meaning that he had been looking for since Afterlife fell.

It was nice to see Talbot and Creel again. Creel being a good dude was awesome, and Talbot being his usual troll self adds a nice dynamic to the show.

Felix Blake was maybe the weirdest part about the season - used for just a little bit. Hopefully he'll have a bigger role in season 4, otherwise he'll have just popped up and disappeared for no reason.

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Bobbi was recovering for most of the season, but was still a complete badass and was tons of fun to watch. She kinda filled both May and Simmons' shoes simultaneously, but she was a good character.

Hunter was driven by revenge for most of the season, but Coulson got it eventually for him. Still, he's always been in love with Bobbi and doing everything for her. He was hilarious and fun, but gave mixed impressions - in season 2, it felt very clear that he was choosing to be a SHIELD agent for the sake of SHIELD, and not just Bobbi. But in s3, it felt like he was mostly only there for her.

The episode where they were written out was bad with good parts. Hunter's performance in it was amazing. The way the episode was styled was cool. The last season was one to remember. But it was kinda confusing and sloppy. Since their spinoff doesn't end up happening... it sucks for them to be gone. It just help to really shrink down the cast again, but man, what a waste. And they had to use up an episode slot for that episode...

Gideon could've been done better. They had a lot of room to set him up to be a big bad. Would've been cool if he was even more diabolical and dangerous in the first half of the season. Or utilized in s2 a bit more, idk. He needed to be a bigger villain, I felt. So that when Hive "turned" on him, it actually had more meaning than "old man is scared". There was space for him to be something special... and he was just means to an end.

Joey was a cool write-in. It sucked a bit that he was put into the show, had a unique outlook and personality, and then removed. But while he was there, he had some cool angles in terms of personality. I'm really glad they showed someone who hated that he killed someone.

Yo-yo was really cool but seems a little OP. Still, she was introduced, just to... stay in her homeland. And then be brought in just cuz later? She was a cool character, and I really liked her interactions with Mack, don't get me wrong... just felt convenient. I liked her more when she was less fluent in English though. I think she's alive so... I guess we'll see if she comes back in season 4.

I know Ghost Rider is in season 4 and I can't help but be sure that the Inhuman guy is going to end up being him. Gives credence to Jiayiang not letting him become an Inhuman, and I actually don't remember what happened to him at the end of the season so...?

The season finale had a good deal of epicness. With this show, if there's one thing they do well, it is make the show amazing when shit hits the fan. Hive's plan was silly, but it was fine. My question is... is blowing him up with a missile in space really going to kill him? This is comics. We didn't watch him die... just the pod they were in.

Coulson was great this season. I loved seeing him fall for somebody, but having issues with trust because he's a spy, but still having it work out, until it didn't, then getting consumed by revenge. I don't think they made it clear enough that him killing Ward with his hand was a bad thing, and didn't really have him haunted enough by it. And he got too "it was a bad idea" too quickly afterwards. But I really liked seeing him go through the early season.

Andrew turning into Lash was a great use of the character, allowing May some development without putting her character into a hole. Lash was constantly fighting himself, his humanity vs. Inhumanity... and the purpose behind his transformation. Question is - was Andrew always meant to become Inhuman? Or did the Terragen gas just decide he would be. Was he always meant to become Lash? I guess so, since fate is prewritten, but it was kinda weird. Him saving Daisy being his purpose in the end... was dumb, because it was a much more convoluted series of events than him just killing Hive. But I digress.

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Nice. You're pretty caught up to me.

i thought the Coulson's haunting of his murder of Ward was great. He has tons of scenes where he's just so disappointed in himself

I especially love the scene where he talks to Fitz about it and Fitz is just like "okay Coulson, I was there, he fuckin deserved it, I'm glad you did it, everyone is better off because of it. stop overthinking it"

It doesn't really assuage Coulson's feelings but it was a neat persepctive from someone who actually saw it happen

I dislike the intelligent design of Inhumans. every time Lincoln said "every inhuman has a purpose" i seriously rolled my eyes because they are just a bunch of kree experiments and who knows how long any of these idiots will live for to "complete their purpose" anyways

I don't really like Yo Yo. I feel like she has no character other then "I DONT TRUST THE GOVERNMENT" and "I LIKE MACK BUT HE KEEPS PLAYING HARD TO GET" and "I HAVE A SPANISH ACCENT". She feels so one dimensional so I don't really like it whenever she shows up. I feel like Mack is one dimensional too so since she's just just a hanger on of him that makes it even worse.

I thought Malik was used exactly enough. Hive started to take over about exactly when I started to get tired of having this guy with unlimited resources lurking in the shadows with political immunity around. I liked him a lot but he would get kinda old having ominous phone calls with Coulson eventually. I thought he died a little too quickly after deciding to help SHIELD but eh.

I LOVE BOBBI AND HUNTER I MISS THEM SOOOO MUCH
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Already talked about Daisy and Lincoln.

May is amazing and great and her development and actions are so cool and interesting to watch. Her having to shoot her ex-husband, even after falling back in love with him, and go through every bit of loss was heartbreaking. So much bad shit happens to her, but she really does an amazing job keeping the team together, maybe even moreso than Coulson. She's the real dad.

Mack was firing on all cylinders this season. Shotgun axe finally making an appearance was worth it. He was constantly put into uncomfortable situations the entire season... having to lie to his brother, deal with a turned Daisy, substituting as Director at one point... and through it all, just being a good dude. He really earned his place in the show.

Simmons had her thing with Will which was weird (she was showing how much Fitz meant to her, and just... it felt like she gave up too soon). She got too used to being back on Earth a little too quickly. But episode 5 was pretty amazing aside from those. She did a good job being Simmons, but hasn't quite been able to just be great Simmons since s1, so I'm looking forward to some more of that.

Fitz kicked ass. Always doing the right thing for Simmons, he fucking killed Iron Chef Chairman, he got the girl... everything Fitz did was just great. Remember when he was bottom of my character rankings? Lol that now.

I'm really glad that Fitz and Simmons finally got together. Keeping them apart for so long, but giving them so many opportunities to realize the truth of how they felt about each other... it was clearly time to have them commit or just kill one. Luckily, they just committed. Only question is, what happens from here? They're now a couple... it wouldn't be Agents of SHIELD if we're allowed to just be happy for them... would it?

And finally, Hive. Best villain in AoS yet. The guy was alien. Ancient, destructive, and beyond human morality. Brilliantly done, for what he is and what he represents. Though it took some time, he finally showed that what he was looking for was a real connection - perhaps a little cheesy (or was that just Ward speaking through), but sensible with his choices. Creating a world for Inhumans, where everyone would be a part of his Hivemind... he was Jiaying taken to the next level. Perhaps she was going crazy at the end, but Hive seemed to always be crazy. Feeding, growing, learning, and getting ready for the chance to return to a world where he could make every person his own. And in the process, bring unparalleled happiness to them all. He was one of those "change everything to help people" tropes, but when he floated in space with Lincoln at the end, he had to come to grips with his mortality and defeat. He was able to do so easily, it seems. Anger wasn't often an issue for him. He was so old that it made no sense to be anything other than patient and calculated. But in the end, he was forced to accept his loss and impending death. And his nonchalance about it... really helped seal him as the powerful being he was.

This season was great and everyone saying s4 is better is getting me so hyped.

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Like I said, Malick could have been used better. He had so much potential, but wasn't really shown to be. If he would've properly been made to be a big bad... he could have taken up an entire season. Or he could've been used as a villain heavily in s2, then the beginning of s3 as well, and then FINALLY show his motivation... if done right, they could've made him to be a zealot early on, instead of just a man with power.
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Oh, and since I left it out:

May > Coulson > Fitz > Mack > Daisy/Simmons
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i'll be the voice of dissent and say i didn't like 4 that much

s1 top tier. I liked 3 better than 2 though
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There's a lot of names for these, but:

While You Were Fighting/Team Thor

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Subject: Greetings!

Dear Tony Stark,

How's it going? I was just thinking fondly on some of the times we had
last November when created a possessed robot who nearly destroyed
-------------- we saved planet!

"little Mjolnir over here taking a nap" xDxDxD

WHO IS THE PURPLE MAN IN THE FLOATING CHAIR? What we know: he's purple, has a magic glove, doesn't like standing up.

What is the power stone? Who had the power stone? Where is the power stone? How much power is in the power stone? Why is it purple?

Mind - in Vision's head. Pretty clear cut.

Time?

Is Fury a real name? Or is it actually pronounced Furry?

Jane is linked to the reality stone? Is the reality stone Aether?

Bruce Banner just shutting down Tony about joining the Civil War was amazing xD

This was perfect.

Team Thor part 2

The brain is a muscle, and these are all muscles, so I am covered in brains, and I have more brains than you.

Well that was fun.
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I can't remember how much attention is brought to it in S3 but Malick was actually in Avengers as a member of the World Security Council that decides to nuke New York and I thought that was a nice detail. Hydra trying to subtly off the Avengers as early as possible.
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