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trentpac 05/27/18 9:25:45 AM #1: |
Should the United States do away with Indian reservations? - Results (4 votes)
Yes
25% (1 vote)
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No
50% (2 votes)
2
I honestly don't know enough about them.
25% (1 vote)
1
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Judgmenl 05/27/18 9:30:49 AM #2: |
The US should ask the Natives what they believe is a just solution to the problem.
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Mead 05/27/18 9:41:44 AM #3: |
We should give them some better land
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trentpac 05/27/18 1:13:24 PM #4: |
Lol nobody wants to touch this one with a 10 foot pole.
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minervo 05/27/18 1:27:15 PM #5: |
Naw, cause then who's gonna supply the country with cheap cigarettes?
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trentpac 05/27/18 1:31:59 PM #6: |
Another add on question to those saying no...and I'm 100% not saying that you're right or wrong here...
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green dragon 05/27/18 1:33:54 PM #7: |
trentpac posted...
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Far-Queue 05/27/18 1:34:44 PM #8: |
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh
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kind9 05/27/18 1:35:22 PM #9: |
I live near one. It's a good place to get cigarettes and fireworks if you're into those things. For the longest time they didn't charge tax, but that changed a few years ago. Honestly I don't know why they still exist so I don't know if they should exist.
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trentpac 05/27/18 1:35:26 PM #10: |
green dragon posted...
trentpac posted...I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll. It's not about that...I just wanted to see an honest discussion about this, because honestly I'm on the fence about this one. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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dedbus 05/27/18 1:37:59 PM #11: |
Nah they should have removed them with the Confederate flag and statues.
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trentpac 05/27/18 1:39:47 PM #12: |
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Far-Queue 05/27/18 1:40:24 PM #13: |
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh Serves us right for stealing their land --- https://imgur.com/ZwO4qO2 Bluer than velvet was the night... Softer than satin was the light... From the stars... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/27/18 4:57:05 PM #14: |
Far-Queue posted...
trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh I know what you mean but if that were to actually happen I think that you'd be singing a different tune. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SunWuKung420 05/27/18 5:02:19 PM #15: |
Yes but only if the next leaders of government are native chiefs and such.
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Far-Queue 05/27/18 5:07:19 PM #16: |
Nope. I'm Wampanoag
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Krazy_Kirby 05/27/18 5:08:35 PM #17: |
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/27/18 5:16:45 PM #18: |
SunWuKung420 posted...
Yes but only if the next leaders of government are native chiefs and such. Now this is an interesting thought...I wouldn't be opposed to maybe giving the Native Americans something like 2 senate seats. Only problem with that is that there's so many different tribes with a variety of population sizes. They would have to figure out a way to have everyone fairly represented. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/27/18 5:18:33 PM #19: |
Lol that'll probably trigger someone...remember we're just talking here.
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darkknight109 05/27/18 5:20:44 PM #20: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh Except it wasn't a war. Several times the US signed treaties as to what land was theirs and what land belonged to the Natives, then proceeded to ignore said treaties. This was most famous in the "Trail of Tears", where Andrew Jackson flat-out ignored a Supreme Court ruling that stated that the Cherokee nation was a sovereign nation and the US, therefore, did not have jurisdiction within it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears --- Kill 1 man: You are a murderer. Kill 10 men: You are a monster. Kill 100 men: You are a hero. Kill 10,000 men, you are a conqueror! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DeathMagnetic80 05/27/18 5:22:47 PM #21: |
The reservation system was awful, but now that tribes have managed to make the best of the situation and are profiting off it, to try and take THAT away would be a slap in the face.
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TheCyborgNinja 05/27/18 5:31:54 PM #22: |
The whole segregation thing is stupid. I don't know how bad it is in the USA, but in Canada it's a fucking nightmare. A few reserves are run like a well-oiled machine, but the vast majority are corrupt and depressing. The natives need to fully assimilate if they're to ever get out of the rut so many seem to be in. Substance abuse and suicide are rampant here... It's bad.
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trentpac 05/27/18 5:33:53 PM #23: |
DeathMagnetic80 posted...
The reservation system was awful, but now that tribes have managed to make the best of the situation and are profiting off it, to try and take THAT away would be a slap in the face. Ehhh some are doing much, much better but some are doing VERY poorly. And from what I understand in some cases the wealth gained from casinos and such aren't going back to the community to the level it should. Meaning that the money is staying at the top. Also many people argue that a gambling culture isn't good for the community as well. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/27/18 5:34:44 PM #24: |
TheCyborgNinja posted...
The whole segregation thing is stupid. I don't know how bad it is in the USA, but in Canada it's a fucking nightmare. A few reserves are run like a well-oiled machine, but the vast majority are corrupt and depressing. The natives need to fully assimilate if they're to ever get out of the rut so many seem to be in. Substance abuse and suicide are rampant here... It's bad. It's the same way here. --- "I have seen great intolerance shown in support of tolerance."-Samuel Taylor Coleridge ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InfestedAdam 05/27/18 5:39:24 PM #25: |
I have mixed opinions about them. On one hand, they deserve some sort of reparation for past transgressions. On the other hand, those in charge and even folks with barely any Native American blood in them just care about the money and I have heard of various issues including alcohol/drug abuse, rapes, etc.
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Sarcasthma 05/28/18 1:13:32 AM #26: |
darkknight109 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...trentpac posted...Far-Queue posted...We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh @Krazy_Kirby --- What's the difference between a pickpocket and a peeping tom? A pickpocket snatches your watch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zeus 05/28/18 1:28:33 AM #27: |
trentpac posted...
Should the United States do away with Indian reservations? Overlooking the tone-deaf (if not borderline racist) reference to them as Indian reservations, the only question I have for you is.... why? trentpac posted... Another add on question to those saying no...and I'm 100% not saying that you're right or wrong here... Here's an add-on question... and I'm 100% saying that you're wrong here... but did you know that if members of a tribe don't want to live on tribal land, they can choose to leave? Which, you know, is something that trentpac posted...
What's there to be on the fence about? Far-Queue posted... Serves us right for stealing their land Stealing? We conquered them fair and square. It's really not much different than what went on anywhere else and during any other time. Krazy_Kirby posted... it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit Well, a lot of tribal lands were given to them at the time of the conquests. Again, it's not much different than other conquests either since a lot of wars only claimed portions of land instead of the entire nation. It's different than giving tribal recognition today and granting land, which is a more questionable practice. darkknight109 posted... Except it wasn't a war. Several times the US signed treaties as to what land was theirs and what land belonged to the Natives, then proceeded to ignore said treaties. Wars don't take two to tango. Attacking a sovereign nation and rounding its citizens up is a definitive act of war, as well as a somewhat historical one considering other peoples throughout history were driven from their homes by invaders. --- (\/)(\/)|-| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarGreymon77 05/28/18 1:51:04 AM #28: |
Reservations seem like such a... racist solution. The Native Americans got a raw deal, to say the least.
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FatalAccident 05/28/18 2:28:02 AM #29: |
green dragon posted...
trentpac posted...I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll. Rofl --- *walks away* ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ForteEXE3850 05/28/18 2:36:46 AM #30: |
Each tribe loses their land but get 3 extra casinos.
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gguirao 05/28/18 2:42:33 AM #31: |
Yes, and give Native Americans a better chance to integrate into their communities.
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Krazy_Kirby 05/28/18 3:30:12 AM #32: |
it isn't racist to call them "indian reservations"
the majority of the tribes are fine with the term "indian". --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot ... Copied to Clipboard!
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WarGreymon77 05/28/18 3:32:35 AM #33: |
Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't racist to call them "indian reservations" Indeed, many seem to prefer it. Similar to how Ron Simmons prefers "black" over "African American", I guess. --- Creator of the official Digimon: Digital Monsters community board! https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/1430-digimon-digital-monsters ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Yellow 05/28/18 3:42:16 AM #34: |
Why would we get rid of Indian reservations? That doesn't make any sense.
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Unbridled9 05/28/18 4:22:27 AM #35: |
Mead posted...
We should give them some better land Let's give them San Fran. --- I am the gentle hand who heals, the happy smile who shields, and the foot that will kick your ***! - White Mage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mead 05/28/18 4:38:36 AM #36: |
Unbridled9 posted...
Mead posted...We should give them some better land Not that good, somewhere in the middle --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/28/18 5:45:04 AM #37: |
Lol Zeus is an idiot.
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Mead 05/28/18 6:02:56 AM #38: |
trentpac posted...
Lol Zeus is an idiot. No he has several PhDs actually He knows more than everyone --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood ... Copied to Clipboard!
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AllstarSniper32 05/28/18 6:07:56 AM #39: |
Voted no.
trentpac posted... Have you ever lived on or visited a reservation? I live on a reservation. My neighbors are Native Americans. trentpac posted... Lol Zeus is an idiot. Welcome to reading Zeus' posts. --- If the people only understood the rank injustice of our money and banking systems, there would be a revolution before morning - Andrew Jackson ... Copied to Clipboard!
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adjl 05/28/18 7:23:01 AM #40: |
Zeus posted...
Overlooking the tone-deaf (if not borderline racist) reference to them as Indian reservations Steering away from "Indian" is largely a push from white people who want to avoid looking stupid for calling them the wrong thing. Most actual natives are quite fine with being called Indians. Ideally, use their actual tribe instead of a blanket term, since that's what their actual ethnic identity is, but as far as referring to indigenous folks as a whole, "Indian" is pretty acceptable. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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trentpac 05/30/18 1:14:50 AM #41: |
One and only one bump
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xjayguyx 05/30/18 1:17:15 AM #42: |
Do away with? No.. stop giving them money? Yes
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TheWorstPoster 05/30/18 2:41:03 AM #43: |
Hell no.
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