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trentpac
05/27/18 9:25:45 AM
#1:


Should the United States do away with Indian reservations? - Results (4 votes)
Yes
25% (1 vote)
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No
50% (2 votes)
2
I honestly don't know enough about them.
25% (1 vote)
1
This might seem like a no brainer, but there's many variables that could change your mind about this one way or another. I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll.
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Judgmenl
05/27/18 9:30:49 AM
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The US should ask the Natives what they believe is a just solution to the problem.
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Mead
05/27/18 9:41:44 AM
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We should give them some better land
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trentpac
05/27/18 1:13:24 PM
#4:


Lol nobody wants to touch this one with a 10 foot pole.
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minervo
05/27/18 1:27:15 PM
#5:


Naw, cause then who's gonna supply the country with cheap cigarettes?
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trentpac
05/27/18 1:31:59 PM
#6:


Another add on question to those saying no...and I'm 100% not saying that you're right or wrong here...

Have you ever lived on or visited a reservation?
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green dragon
05/27/18 1:33:54 PM
#7:


trentpac posted...
I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll.

I think you're overestimating how much people value your opinion
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Far-Queue
05/27/18 1:34:44 PM
#8:


We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh
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kind9
05/27/18 1:35:22 PM
#9:


I live near one. It's a good place to get cigarettes and fireworks if you're into those things. For the longest time they didn't charge tax, but that changed a few years ago. Honestly I don't know why they still exist so I don't know if they should exist.
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trentpac
05/27/18 1:35:26 PM
#10:


green dragon posted...
trentpac posted...
I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll.

I think you're overestimating how much people value your opinion


It's not about that...I just wanted to see an honest discussion about this, because honestly I'm on the fence about this one.
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dedbus
05/27/18 1:37:59 PM
#11:


Nah they should have removed them with the Confederate flag and statues.
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trentpac
05/27/18 1:39:47 PM
#12:


Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.
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Far-Queue
05/27/18 1:40:24 PM
#13:


trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.

Serves us right for stealing their land
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trentpac
05/27/18 4:57:05 PM
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Far-Queue posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.

Serves us right for stealing their land


I know what you mean but if that were to actually happen I think that you'd be singing a different tune.
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SunWuKung420
05/27/18 5:02:19 PM
#15:


Yes but only if the next leaders of government are native chiefs and such.
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Far-Queue
05/27/18 5:07:19 PM
#16:


Nope. I'm Wampanoag
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Krazy_Kirby
05/27/18 5:08:35 PM
#17:


trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.

Serves us right for stealing their land


I know what you mean but if that were to actually happen I think that you'd be singing a different tune.


it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit
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trentpac
05/27/18 5:16:45 PM
#18:


SunWuKung420 posted...
Yes but only if the next leaders of government are native chiefs and such.


Now this is an interesting thought...I wouldn't be opposed to maybe giving the Native Americans something like 2 senate seats. Only problem with that is that there's so many different tribes with a variety of population sizes. They would have to figure out a way to have everyone fairly represented.
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trentpac
05/27/18 5:18:33 PM
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Lol that'll probably trigger someone...remember we're just talking here.
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darkknight109
05/27/18 5:20:44 PM
#20:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.

Serves us right for stealing their land


I know what you mean but if that were to actually happen I think that you'd be singing a different tune.


it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit

Except it wasn't a war. Several times the US signed treaties as to what land was theirs and what land belonged to the Natives, then proceeded to ignore said treaties.

This was most famous in the "Trail of Tears", where Andrew Jackson flat-out ignored a Supreme Court ruling that stated that the Cherokee nation was a sovereign nation and the US, therefore, did not have jurisdiction within it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
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DeathMagnetic80
05/27/18 5:22:47 PM
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The reservation system was awful, but now that tribes have managed to make the best of the situation and are profiting off it, to try and take THAT away would be a slap in the face.
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TheCyborgNinja
05/27/18 5:31:54 PM
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The whole segregation thing is stupid. I don't know how bad it is in the USA, but in Canada it's a fucking nightmare. A few reserves are run like a well-oiled machine, but the vast majority are corrupt and depressing. The natives need to fully assimilate if they're to ever get out of the rut so many seem to be in. Substance abuse and suicide are rampant here... It's bad.
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trentpac
05/27/18 5:33:53 PM
#23:


DeathMagnetic80 posted...
The reservation system was awful, but now that tribes have managed to make the best of the situation and are profiting off it, to try and take THAT away would be a slap in the face.


Ehhh some are doing much, much better but some are doing VERY poorly. And from what I understand in some cases the wealth gained from casinos and such aren't going back to the community to the level it should. Meaning that the money is staying at the top. Also many people argue that a gambling culture isn't good for the community as well.
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trentpac
05/27/18 5:34:44 PM
#24:


TheCyborgNinja posted...
The whole segregation thing is stupid. I don't know how bad it is in the USA, but in Canada it's a fucking nightmare. A few reserves are run like a well-oiled machine, but the vast majority are corrupt and depressing. The natives need to fully assimilate if they're to ever get out of the rut so many seem to be in. Substance abuse and suicide are rampant here... It's bad.


It's the same way here.
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InfestedAdam
05/27/18 5:39:24 PM
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I have mixed opinions about them. On one hand, they deserve some sort of reparation for past transgressions. On the other hand, those in charge and even folks with barely any Native American blood in them just care about the money and I have heard of various issues including alcohol/drug abuse, rapes, etc.
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Sarcasthma
05/28/18 1:13:32 AM
#26:


darkknight109 posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
trentpac posted...
Far-Queue posted...
We should move all non-Natives to the reservations and let the Natives take their land back, tbh


If I remember correctly reservations take up 2-3% of the total land mass of the United States. We're going to be packed in like sardines up in here.

Serves us right for stealing their land


I know what you mean but if that were to actually happen I think that you'd be singing a different tune.


it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit

Except it wasn't a war. Several times the US signed treaties as to what land was theirs and what land belonged to the Natives, then proceeded to ignore said treaties.

This was most famous in the "Trail of Tears", where Andrew Jackson flat-out ignored a Supreme Court ruling that stated that the Cherokee nation was a sovereign nation and the US, therefore, did not have jurisdiction within it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears

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Zeus
05/28/18 1:28:33 AM
#27:


trentpac posted...
Should the United States do away with Indian reservations?


Overlooking the tone-deaf (if not borderline racist) reference to them as Indian reservations, the only question I have for you is.... why?

trentpac posted...
Another add on question to those saying no...and I'm 100% not saying that you're right or wrong here...

Have you ever lived on or visited a reservation?


Here's an add-on question... and I'm 100% saying that you're wrong here... but did you know that if members of a tribe don't want to live on tribal land, they can choose to leave? Which, you know, is something that

trentpac posted...

It's not about that...I just wanted to see an honest discussion about this, because honestly I'm on the fence about this one.


What's there to be on the fence about?

Far-Queue posted...
Serves us right for stealing their land


Stealing? We conquered them fair and square. It's really not much different than what went on anywhere else and during any other time.

Krazy_Kirby posted...
it was a war, land gets taken in war. giving people stuff for things you ancestors might have done is bullshit


Well, a lot of tribal lands were given to them at the time of the conquests. Again, it's not much different than other conquests either since a lot of wars only claimed portions of land instead of the entire nation. It's different than giving tribal recognition today and granting land, which is a more questionable practice.

darkknight109 posted...
Except it wasn't a war. Several times the US signed treaties as to what land was theirs and what land belonged to the Natives, then proceeded to ignore said treaties.


Wars don't take two to tango. Attacking a sovereign nation and rounding its citizens up is a definitive act of war, as well as a somewhat historical one considering other peoples throughout history were driven from their homes by invaders.
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WarGreymon77
05/28/18 1:51:04 AM
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Reservations seem like such a... racist solution. The Native Americans got a raw deal, to say the least.
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FatalAccident
05/28/18 2:28:02 AM
#29:


green dragon posted...
trentpac posted...
I'm holding back my opinions as to not bias the poll.

I think you're overestimating how much people value your opinion

Rofl
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ForteEXE3850
05/28/18 2:36:46 AM
#30:


Each tribe loses their land but get 3 extra casinos.
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gguirao
05/28/18 2:42:33 AM
#31:


Yes, and give Native Americans a better chance to integrate into their communities.
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Krazy_Kirby
05/28/18 3:30:12 AM
#32:


it isn't racist to call them "indian reservations"

the majority of the tribes are fine with the term "indian".
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WarGreymon77
05/28/18 3:32:35 AM
#33:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
it isn't racist to call them "indian reservations"

the majority of the tribes are fine with the term "indian".

Indeed, many seem to prefer it. Similar to how Ron Simmons prefers "black" over "African American", I guess.
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Yellow
05/28/18 3:42:16 AM
#34:


Why would we get rid of Indian reservations? That doesn't make any sense.
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Unbridled9
05/28/18 4:22:27 AM
#35:


Mead posted...
We should give them some better land


Let's give them San Fran.
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Mead
05/28/18 4:38:36 AM
#36:


Unbridled9 posted...
Mead posted...
We should give them some better land


Let's give them San Fran.


Not that good, somewhere in the middle
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trentpac
05/28/18 5:45:04 AM
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Lol Zeus is an idiot.
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Mead
05/28/18 6:02:56 AM
#38:


trentpac posted...
Lol Zeus is an idiot.


No he has several PhDs actually

He knows more than everyone
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AllstarSniper32
05/28/18 6:07:56 AM
#39:


Voted no.

trentpac posted...
Have you ever lived on or visited a reservation?

I live on a reservation. My neighbors are Native Americans.

trentpac posted...
Lol Zeus is an idiot.

Welcome to reading Zeus' posts.
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adjl
05/28/18 7:23:01 AM
#40:


Zeus posted...
Overlooking the tone-deaf (if not borderline racist) reference to them as Indian reservations


Steering away from "Indian" is largely a push from white people who want to avoid looking stupid for calling them the wrong thing. Most actual natives are quite fine with being called Indians. Ideally, use their actual tribe instead of a blanket term, since that's what their actual ethnic identity is, but as far as referring to indigenous folks as a whole, "Indian" is pretty acceptable.
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trentpac
05/30/18 1:14:50 AM
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One and only one bump
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xjayguyx
05/30/18 1:17:15 AM
#42:


Do away with? No.. stop giving them money? Yes
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TheWorstPoster
05/30/18 2:41:03 AM
#43:


Hell no.

Some of the best casinos are there.
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