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Kimbos_Egg
05/26/18 7:20:40 PM
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https://archive.li/UuEJw
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Andromicus
05/26/18 7:28:47 PM
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Disrespecting that zero Avatar
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MICHALECOLE
05/26/18 7:29:17 PM
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Too long

Didnt read
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SkynyrdRocker
05/26/18 7:53:08 PM
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Oh man a developer on shit games didn't like TB. score one more for TB
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Zareth
05/26/18 7:59:08 PM
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Developer who worked on Andromeda and Battlefront, hmmm...
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GrandTour
05/26/18 8:08:18 PM
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Oh boy. Did he forget that people warned Anita about that weird Brazillian dude who was harassing her and she didn't seem to care?
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ParanoidObsessive
05/26/18 9:01:58 PM
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I was going to say "Is that still up? I heard about it earlier today and heard that he'd apparently protected his Tweets to hide everything", but then I noticed that's an archived page shot.

About the only good thing I can think of that came out of this is that, in spite of how much of a massive clusterfuck BioWare has been lately, and just how utterly shitty it seems some of their overall business culture as a whole has become, they still went out of their way to almost immediately respond to his Tweets (and the shitstorm that they led to) by apologizing, and implying they just fired him over it (Casey Hudson referred to him as an EX-employee, but he was still employed when he said it).


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ParanoidObsessive
05/26/18 9:04:33 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Oh man a developer on shit games didn't like TB. score one more for TB

Zareth posted...
Developer who worked on Andromeda and Battlefront, hmmm...

Yeah, I also got a chuckle out of reading him complain about TB being overly critical of games he worked on, then looking into it and realizing that nearly every game he's ever worked on is a piece of shit in some way (or in every way).


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ParanoidObsessive
05/26/18 9:07:43 PM
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Oh, and here:

http://archive.fo/XCqUR

Another BioWare dev who started taking his side, then backed off quickly and deleted his Tweets as well once the shitstorm started kicking up.


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Zeus
05/26/18 9:52:19 PM
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Well, that was all kinds of stupid. Granted, Twitter's generally toxic culture encourages people to act as offensively as possible.
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faramir77
05/26/18 10:14:33 PM
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How much of a sociopath does one need to be to celebrate the death of someone who criticized the video game they developed?
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Miroku_of_Nite1
05/26/18 10:16:05 PM
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e-celerity shit.
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Zeus
05/26/18 10:20:13 PM
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faramir77 posted...
How much of a sociopath does one need to be to celebrate the death of someone who criticized the video game they developed?


I honestly have mixed feelings on it. While celebrating death is generally a terrible thing, people tend to get pretty invested in their work and, when you're in entertainment, it's also your livelihood. If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings. The problem is platforms which encourage people with strong, offensive opinions to voice those opinions and, in turn, suffer for it. While he was alive, John Bain might have hurt the guy's career. However, by mocking Bain's death, the guy ironically cost himself his job.

Social media generally encourages and facilitates these terrible lapses in judgment in what I assume are otherwise ordinary, reasonable people.
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FrozenBananas
05/26/18 10:23:29 PM
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TB is laughing his ass off in gamer heaven :)
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faramir77
05/26/18 10:24:40 PM
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Zeus posted...
faramir77 posted...
How much of a sociopath does one need to be to celebrate the death of someone who criticized the video game they developed?


I honestly have mixed feelings on it. While celebrating death is generally a terrible thing, people tend to get pretty invested in their work and, when you're in entertainment, it's also your livelihood. If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings. The problem is platforms which encourage people with strong, offensive opinions to voice those opinions and, in turn, suffer for it. While he was alive, John Bain might have hurt the guy's career. However, by mocking Bain's death, the guy ironically cost himself his job.


It's one thing to not be upset when someone that caused you grief passes away.

Actively pronouncing how glorious of a day it is that someone who was mean to you has died at a young age is absolutely disturbing.
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FrozenBananas
05/26/18 10:29:40 PM
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The most enjoyable thing out of this was watching Dodger's stream this morning. She was one of the closest people to him and I love listening to what she has to say. It was a beautiful memorial
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adjl
05/27/18 12:08:12 AM
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Zeus posted...
If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings.


The thing is, bad reviews are just a part of any creative enterprise. Don't blame a reviewer for your game not being good enough to get a good review from them.
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helIy
05/27/18 12:14:28 AM
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that guy isn't wrong though

totalbiscuit was a gigantic fucking douchebag.
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TallTamryu
05/27/18 12:23:19 AM
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adjl posted...
The thing is, bad reviews are just a part of any creative enterprise. Don't blame a reviewer for your game not being good enough to get a good review from them.

This, he's just mad that a review was popular and didn't paint his game in the best of lights. To be fair as well, TB even liked Andromeda some from what I recall. He might as well have mocked any other even bigger reviewer who was shitting on that game.
helIy posted...
totalbiscuit was a gigantic fucking douchebag.

You being the expert.
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Monopoman
05/27/18 2:54:37 AM
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Zeus posted...
faramir77 posted...
How much of a sociopath does one need to be to celebrate the death of someone who criticized the video game they developed?


I honestly have mixed feelings on it. While celebrating death is generally a terrible thing, people tend to get pretty invested in their work and, when you're in entertainment, it's also your livelihood. If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings. The problem is platforms which encourage people with strong, offensive opinions to voice those opinions and, in turn, suffer for it. While he was alive, John Bain might have hurt the guy's career. However, by mocking Bain's death, the guy ironically cost himself his job.

Social media generally encourages and facilitates these terrible lapses in judgment in what I assume are otherwise ordinary, reasonable people.

Criticism is required in society to get better, if we don't look at things and go item xyz is bad or item abc is good it doesn't force developers to make better games. While critics can be cruel at times and go a bit beyond the line, I always felt that TB was very constructive and thoughtful with his criticism. He didn't just say stuff like "This game sucks period." He would talk about why it sucked and what could be done to improve it, usually at great length.
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FatalAccident
05/27/18 3:01:34 AM
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Lol
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Zeus
05/27/18 3:56:49 AM
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adjl posted...
Zeus posted...
If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings.


The thing is, bad reviews are just a part of any creative enterprise. Don't blame a reviewer for your game not being good enough to get a good review from them.


Criticism is subjective in nature, though, and most people think that their product is good. Therefore resentment towards negativity can be a natural response, particularly when you have an economic interest in the product's success. Given that reviews can have a pretty direct impact on a product's success, creators often blame the bad reviews and the reviewers when things don't sell.

Monopoman posted...
Zeus posted...
faramir77 posted...
How much of a sociopath does one need to be to celebrate the death of someone who criticized the video game they developed?


I honestly have mixed feelings on it. While celebrating death is generally a terrible thing, people tend to get pretty invested in their work and, when you're in entertainment, it's also your livelihood. If somebody is threatening your livelihood, it's kinda understandable to have strong feelings. The problem is platforms which encourage people with strong, offensive opinions to voice those opinions and, in turn, suffer for it. While he was alive, John Bain might have hurt the guy's career. However, by mocking Bain's death, the guy ironically cost himself his job.

Social media generally encourages and facilitates these terrible lapses in judgment in what I assume are otherwise ordinary, reasonable people.

Criticism is required in society to get better, if we don't look at things and go item xyz is bad or item abc is good it doesn't force developers to make better games. While critics can be cruel at times and go a bit beyond the line, I always felt that TB was very constructive and thoughtful with his criticism. He didn't just say stuff like "This game sucks period." He would talk about why it sucked and what could be done to improve it, usually at great length.


None of which changes the impact on the creators. If a game's sales flop because it's getting terrible reviews, there's also a completely natural tendency to blame the reviewers. That's not to suggest that the negative reviews are necessarily wrong (or, for that matter, right). And sure, reviews have a net benefit to society -- not necessarily because of the input provided to developers (or perhaps not directly), but instead the fact that it can steer consumers away from bad games and keep them from feeling like they got burned which, in turn, might stop them from buying altogether.
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Revelation34
05/27/18 3:57:50 AM
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Kimbos_Egg posted...
https://archive.li/UuEJw


Who cares? Totalbiscuit created a literal witch hunt over a dumb meme joke.
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VeeVees
05/27/18 4:02:20 AM
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I'm glad that guy got kicked for a dumb meme joke. I hate fans who think they are funny and spew dumb memes at q&a. I hope he gets banned from all cons everywhere.
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Revelation34
05/27/18 4:05:53 AM
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VeeVees posted...
I'm glad that guy got kicked for a dumb meme joke. I hate fans who think they are funny and spew dumb memes at q&a. I hope he gets banned from all cons everywhere.


Witch hunts are never good.
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adjl
05/27/18 11:10:53 AM
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Zeus posted...
Criticism is subjective in nature, though, and most people think that their product is good


That's exactly why criticism is important.

Zeus posted...
Therefore resentment towards negativity can be a natural response, particularly when you have an economic interest in the product's success. Given that reviews can have a pretty direct impact on a product's success, creators often blame the bad reviews and the reviewers when things don't sell.


And that's dumb. I'm not going to deny that that does happen, but nobody should be defending behaviour like this, or what Digital Homicide did, or what Alex Mauer did, or any of the countless other examples of developers or other game staff responding to critical reviews by abusing the reviewers. Critical reviews are - and always will be - a part of producing games. That's not to say it doesn't get excessively abusive sometimes, in which case there are ways to address it, but anyone who can't deal with having their game criticized should try a different industry, because that criticism is only going to get worse unless you learn from it.
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VeeVees
05/27/18 11:27:21 AM
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Revelation34 posted...
VeeVees posted...
I'm glad that guy got kicked for a dumb meme joke. I hate fans who think they are funny and spew dumb memes at q&a. I hope he gets banned from all cons everywhere.


Witch hunts are never good.

Bad things are good when the victims are people I don't like.
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Revelation34
05/27/18 2:02:48 PM
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VeeVees posted...
Bad things are good when the victims are people I don't like.


That's not how it works.
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VeeVees
05/27/18 2:52:59 PM
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Yes, it is. "Good" and "bad" are subjective.
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Kyuubi4269
05/27/18 2:56:29 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
VeeVees posted...
Bad things are good when the victims are people I don't like.


That's not how it works.

Literally the only way it does work.
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Revelation34
05/27/18 3:07:06 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Literally the only way it does work.


Not really.
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