Poll of the Day > Boy Scouts to lose the 'Boy' in its Title...

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adjl 05/02/18 9:18:41 PM #51:	Zeus posted... So basically you think charging based on a controllable factor like the kind of vehicle you buy and whether you're getting it used or new is no less discriminatory than basing it on innate human characteristics like gender and race? >_> My comment could have stood to be more nuanced, since I was specifically talking about cases where the model of the car influences rates beyond just what the car is worth, but the underlying point is that it's just as arbitrary as discriminating on the basis of sex. The key difference, of course, is that it's significantly easier to buy a different model of car than it is to change your sex, so they aren't necessarily comparable in the severity of the issue, but it's nonetheless a matter of insurance discriminating on something that has no bearing on your actual driving ability. Incidentally, I would be all in favour of making it illegal for insurance to discriminate on the basis of sex. I just understand why they do it. Young drivers are a major cash sink for them, and because they have no driving history to draw on, they use anything else they can find that seems to be correlated with a higher accident rate to justify increasing rates. Sex is included in that. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900705475] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>So basically you think charging based on a controllable factor like the kind of vehicle you buy and whether you're getting it used or new is no less discriminatory than basing it on innate human characteristics like gender and race? >_></quote> My comment could have stood to be more nuanced, since I was specifically talking about cases where the model of the car influences rates beyond just what the car is worth, but the underlying point is that it's just as arbitrary as discriminating on the basis of sex. The key difference, of course, is that it's significantly easier to buy a different model of car than it is to change your sex, so they aren't necessarily comparable in the severity of the issue, but it's nonetheless a matter of insurance discriminating on something that has no bearing on your actual driving ability. Incidentally, I would be all in favour of making it illegal for insurance to discriminate on the basis of sex. I just understand why they do it. Young drivers are a major cash sink for them, and because they have no driving history to draw on, they use anything else they can find that seems to be correlated with a higher accident rate to justify increasing rates. Sex is included in that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 9:50:23 PM #52:	adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles. And what about equally-valued vehicles that have different premiums? Because that also happens, based on how likely said models are to be involved in an accident. Look, we can go down that rabbit hole allllll day, buddy. But it's obvious that it would only be an attempt to ignore the discrimination against gender. What I am ultimately saying....is that insurance premiums should NOT be determined based on the driver's gender. In fact, it shouldn't even be a question the insurance companies ask you. Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? Because you think male drivers are "more aggressive" and "prone to accidents" therefore justifying higher premiums by default? That's sexist. And I would LOVE to know why the media is making such a big fuss about this whole Boyscouts controversy, but nobody is making a peep about gender-based insurance premiums that affect a helluva lot more people. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900707030] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles.</quote> And what about equally-valued vehicles that have different premiums? Because that also happens, based on how likely said models are to be involved in an accident.</quote> Look, we can go down that rabbit hole allllll day, buddy. But it's obvious that it would only be an attempt to ignore the discrimination against gender. What I am ultimately saying....is that insurance premiums should NOT be determined based on the driver's gender. In fact, it shouldn't even be a question the insurance companies ask you. Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? Because you think male drivers are "more aggressive" and "prone to accidents" therefore justifying higher premiums by default? That's sexist. And I would LOVE to know why the media is making such a big fuss about this whole Boyscouts controversy, but nobody is making a peep about gender-based insurance premiums that affect a helluva lot more people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 9:53:24 PM #53:	GreenKnight127 posted... Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900707177] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? </quote> I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 05/02/18 9:58:37 PM #54:	Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:900707428] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/02/18 9:58:54 PM #55:	Really? But they've had mixed gender scouts for years called Spiral Scouts. I think there's another group, but I can't remember what they're called. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:900707442] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Really? But they've had mixed gender scouts for years called Spiral Scouts. I think there's another group, but I can't remember what they're called.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 9:59:20 PM #56:	GanglyKhan posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900707455] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? </quote> I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them.</quote> We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/02/18 9:59:38 PM #57:	GanglyKhan posted... GreenKnight127 posted... Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them. Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment? GanglyKhan posted... Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them. Clearly they don't, because women aren't subject to the same rate, which was the basis for his complaint. --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:900707465] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Does anyone disagree with that? If so, why? </quote> I already did disagree. It's based on statistics. We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder in the country to ensure a fair pricing, so instead, we look at statistics and go from there. Males ages 18-24 in 2 door cars are the most prone to causing accidents according to these companies, so hey, you're gonna pay extra. That's just life, man. Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them.</quote> Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment? <cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>Everyone takes their turn getting it dealt to them.</quote> Clearly they don't, because women aren't subject to the same rate, which was the basis for his complaint.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/02/18 10:17:55 PM #58:	if girls want to be equal then they should also be forced to sign up for a possible draft once they turn 18 --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:900708320] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>if girls want to be equal then they should also be forced to sign up for a possible draft once they turn 18</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 10:18:59 PM #59:	IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. It shouldnt be an issue once more churches come around to the fact that gay people can be Christian too and it really isnt that big of a deal. --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900708379] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> It shouldnt be an issue once more churches come around to the fact that gay people can be Christian too and it really isnt that big of a deal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/02/18 10:24:16 PM #60:	IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. all two of them --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:900708663] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> all two of them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wolfy42 05/02/18 10:41:00 PM #61:	Imagine all the new badges!! French kissing badge. Sammich making badge. Gossip spreading badge. The list could be endless! --- "did you steal my f***in signature" Helly <cite>wolfy42 posted [p:900709504] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Imagine all the new badges!! French kissing badge. Sammich making badge. Gossip spreading badge. The list could be endless!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 10:42:21 PM #62:	Zeus posted... Clearly they don't, because women aren't subject to the same rate, which was the basis for his complaint. I was speaking large scale here, like, across an entire lifespan. At some point, you will be discriminated against, legally or no, and at some point, you will be given blatant advantages and be treated better due to circumstances you had no control over since birth. Is it fair? Not really. Is it reality? 100% yes. I'm all for figuring out new solutions, but when people just raise a counterpoint and argue something without providing any viable solutions, that's where it starts to get ugly. Speaking of solutions, let's check in on GreenKnight. GreenKnight127 posted... Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do. Fair warning, I am tired and feeling a bit lazy in the brainspace, so I am going to resort to bitter sarcasm here: So let's lower the rates we make 18-24 year old males pay. Oops, you had to cut 15% of your employees now! Oh well, they'll find jobs somewhere else. Or maybe we should increase everyone else's rates so it equals out? But now that isn't fair to older drivers and females... Hm... End sarcasm. The money has to come from somewhere to sustain the business, you either are looking at employee cuts or charging more across the board to make up for it. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900709567] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Clearly they don't, because women aren't subject to the same rate, which was the basis for his complaint.</quote> I was speaking large scale here, like, across an entire lifespan. At some point, you will be discriminated against, legally or no, and at some point, you will be given blatant advantages and be treated better due to circumstances you had no control over since birth. Is it fair? Not really. Is it reality? 100% yes. I'm all for figuring out new solutions, but when people just raise a counterpoint and argue something without providing any viable solutions, that's where it starts to get ugly. Speaking of solutions, let's check in on GreenKnight. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do. </quote> Fair warning, I am tired and feeling a bit lazy in the brainspace, so I am going to resort to bitter sarcasm here: So let's lower the rates we make 18-24 year old males pay. Oops, you had to cut 15% of your employees now! Oh well, they'll find jobs somewhere else. Or maybe we should increase everyone else's rates so it equals out? But now that isn't fair to older drivers and females... Hm... End sarcasm. The money has to come from somewhere to sustain the business, you either are looking at employee cuts or charging more across the board to make up for it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/02/18 10:51:22 PM #63:	People are actually triggered that the Boy Scouts changed their name to appeal to a larger audience while trying to recoup lost popularity, because they don't like identity politics. The hypocrisy is kind of unreal. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsKplb2E6Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:900709981] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>People are actually triggered that the Boy Scouts changed their name to appeal to a larger audience while trying to recoup lost popularity, because they don't like identity politics. The hypocrisy is kind of unreal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 10:52:55 PM #64:	Yellow posted... People are actually triggered that the Boy Scouts changed their name to appeal to a larger audience while trying to recoup lost popularity, because they don't like identity politics. The hypocrisy is kind of unreal. If you can't beat em, kowtow to them. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900710047] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Yellow posted...</cite> <quote>People are actually triggered that the Boy Scouts changed their name to appeal to a larger audience while trying to recoup lost popularity, because they don't like identity politics. The hypocrisy is kind of unreal.</quote> If you can't beat em, kowtow to them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 10:58:56 PM #65:	GreenKnight127 posted... We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do. It would, but then everyone pays more across the board. You're asking to have your more careful personality taken into account. That's highly impractical for a new driver, and happens anyway as you spend more time driving and have a more concrete, personalized basis for determining your risk level. Zeus posted... Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment? A number of reasons: -That difference applies across an entire lifetime, whereas the gender-based difference in car insurance evens out as one accumulates a driving record -People who are applying for health insurance have medical histories already, providing more salient variables that insurance companies can consider. New drivers don't yet have driving records to consider -Not having health insurance kills people. Not having car insurance makes people take the bus. Again, I wouldn't be opposed to giving car insurance the same treatment, but it's understandable that it hasn't happened. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900710352] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do.</quote> It would, but then everyone pays more across the board. You're asking to have your more careful personality taken into account. That's highly impractical for a new driver, and happens anyway as you spend more time driving and have a more concrete, personalized basis for determining your risk level. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment?</quote> A number of reasons: -That difference applies across an entire lifetime, whereas the gender-based difference in car insurance evens out as one accumulates a driving record -People who are applying for health insurance have medical histories already, providing more salient variables that insurance companies can consider. New drivers don't yet have driving records to consider -Not having health insurance kills people. Not having car insurance makes people take the bus. Again, I wouldn't be opposed to giving car insurance the same treatment, but it's understandable that it hasn't happened.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Born Lucky 05/02/18 10:59:19 PM #66:	Pretending that boys and girls are the same, is a sign your society is about to be conquered, by people who are smart enough to know better. --- Corsair 550D/ Gigabyte Z170X Gaming3 / Vengeance 16GB DDR4 2666 / i-5 6600k / MSI Twin Frozr VI GTX 1060 / Thermaltake NiC C5 <cite>Born Lucky posted [p:900710377] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Pretending that boys and girls are the same, is a sign your society is about to be conquered, by people who are smart enough to know better.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 11:02:49 PM #67:	Born Lucky posted... Pretending that boys and girls are the same, is a sign your society is about to be conquered, by people who are smart enough to know better. You really like commas, don't you? I feel like we're nearing the apex of this "swing" on the societal pendulum. We'll pass on by that sweet sweet balanced spot in the middle (we'll still get to enjoy it for a little while), over correct, and veer far off into the ultra-conservative mindset for a decade ubtil we go "hey! this is too much! let's get as far away from this as we can!" and we'll keep repeating the process. It's how nearly every society has worked across countries and centuries. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900710539] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Born Lucky posted...</cite> <quote>Pretending that boys and girls are the same, is a sign your society is about to be conquered, by people who are smart enough to know better.</quote> You really like commas, don't you? I feel like we're nearing the apex of this "swing" on the societal pendulum. We'll pass on by that sweet sweet balanced spot in the middle (we'll still get to enjoy it for a little while), over correct, and veer far off into the ultra-conservative mindset for a decade ubtil we go "hey! this is too much! let's get as far away from this as we can!" and we'll keep repeating the process. It's how nearly every society has worked across countries and centuries.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 05/02/18 11:18:36 PM #68:	knivesX2004 posted... My friend had to hide his homosexuality until after he got his eagle. He predicted they would kick him out. He was right. That's unfortunate. In my opinion Scouting focuses on being a good citizen, overall good person, and being respectful of others even if their beliefs are different from your own. It's part of the Scout Law. Stuff like learning outdoor skills, survival, etc. are just icing on the cake. I find it hypocritical that some leaders will deny a Scout the rank of Eagle if his stances goes against their personal beliefs. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:900711226] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>My friend had to hide his homosexuality until after he got his eagle. He predicted they would kick him out. He was right. </quote> That's unfortunate. In my opinion Scouting focuses on being a good citizen, overall good person, and being respectful of others even if their beliefs are different from your own. It's part of the Scout Law. Stuff like learning outdoor skills, survival, etc. are just icing on the cake. I find it hypocritical that some leaders will deny a Scout the rank of Eagle if his stances goes against their personal beliefs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IronBornCorps 05/02/18 11:55:02 PM #69:	Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. all two of them I said all, not both. <cite>IronBornCorps posted [p:900712841] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> all two of them</quote> I said all, not both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LittleRoyal 05/02/18 11:58:52 PM #70:	Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh --- I-I really needed this~~ Why does everyone think I like girls? <cite>LittleRoyal posted [p:900713019] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/03/18 2:17:30 AM #71:	IronBornCorps posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. all two of them I said all, not both. same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:900717603] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> all two of them</quote> I said all, not both.</quote> same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GanglyKhan 05/03/18 7:02:37 AM #73:	Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. all two of them I said all, not both. same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900723024] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> all two of them</quote> I said all, not both.</quote> same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three</quote> That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 7:09:18 AM #74:	GanglyKhan posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Krazy_Kirby posted... IronBornCorps posted... Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders. all two of them I said all, not both. same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively. Biology identifies five sexes for humans, actually. Male/female, male/female pseudohermaphrodites (having only one set of gonads, but presenting ambiguously or in opposition to that set, such as in androgen insensitivity syndrome), and true hermaphrodites (both sets of gonads). Obviously, the latter three are much rarer than the first two, but they're still counted. LittleRoyal posted... Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh Boy roles like... camping? Camping's not exactly a gendered activity, and that's all I really remember Scouts offering me that I couldn't get elsewhere (in a tidy, organized package, that is, since obviously I could have gone camping whenever). --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900723139] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Krazy_Kirby posted...</cite> <quote><cite>IronBornCorps posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts has been very Christian in the past. I'm curious how that will play out in the future. I'm happy to hear gender integration for all genders.</quote> all two of them</quote> I said all, not both.</quote> same thing.... unless you include the minuscule percentage of people who are hermaphrodites as a third. then there are three</quote> That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively.</quote> Biology identifies five sexes for humans, actually. Male/female, male/female pseudohermaphrodites (having only one set of gonads, but presenting ambiguously or in opposition to that set, such as in androgen insensitivity syndrome), and true hermaphrodites (both sets of gonads). Obviously, the latter three are much rarer than the first two, but they're still counted. <cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh</quote> Boy roles like... camping? Camping's not exactly a gendered activity, and that's all I really remember Scouts offering me that I couldn't get elsewhere (in a tidy, organized package, that is, since obviously I could have gone camping whenever).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TES_Nut 05/03/18 7:27:38 AM #75:	MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? Yeah any kind of social group for kids What about sports? Baseball is co-ed at the lowest levels. Honestly if any sport is going to break the gender barrier it will be baseball. Nerve and timing are much more important than raw strength. --- The ending of the word is ALMSIVI <cite>TES_Nut posted [p:900723462] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> Yeah any kind of social group for kids</quote> What about sports?</quote> Baseball is co-ed at the lowest levels. Honestly if any sport is going to break the gender barrier it will be baseball. Nerve and timing are much more important than raw strength.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lil_Bit83 05/03/18 9:51:20 AM #76:	LittleRoyal posted... Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh I was in the girlscouts in the 90s and we did everything from arts and crafts, camping, bird watching, earth day fairs, cooking, nature walks, hiking and cleaning up litter. Scouts are supposed to be fun and try to help kids become active and better people. --- I'm a chick <cite>Lil_Bit83 posted [p:900727699] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>LittleRoyal posted...</cite> <quote>Girl Scouts do kore female oriented stuff Boy Scouts are more boy roles Sooo girls shouldnt do Boy Scouts Bleh</quote> I was in the girlscouts in the 90s and we did everything from arts and crafts, camping, bird watching, earth day fairs, cooking, nature walks, hiking and cleaning up litter. Scouts are supposed to be fun and try to help kids become active and better people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/03/18 11:49:22 AM #77:	GanglyKhan posted... That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively. No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:900732591] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively.</quote> No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/03/18 11:54:49 AM #78:	Revelation34 posted... GanglyKhan posted... That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively. No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other. Can you prove that --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900732820] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively.</quote> No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other.</quote> Can you prove that</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/03/18 11:55:34 AM #79:	Mead posted... Can you prove that https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/sex --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:900732855] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> Can you prove that</quote> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/sex</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/03/18 1:04:26 PM #80:	Revelation34 posted... Mead posted... Can you prove that https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/sex Did you even check your link --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900736265] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> Can you prove that</quote> https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/thesaurus/sex</quote> Did you even check your link</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/03/18 1:50:07 PM #81:	Mead posted... Did you even check your link Did you? SYNONYMS gender --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:900738525] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote> Did you even check your link</quote> Did you? SYNONYMS gender</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/03/18 3:10:20 PM #82:	Revelation34 Synonyms: Triggered --- https://i.imgur.com/ysRN6GL.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:900742337] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Revelation34 Synonyms: Triggered</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
blorfenburger 05/03/18 3:12:30 PM #83:	Scout scouts --- I use inverted controls. Also I hate fandoms. If you see a woman and you think she's thicc, she's probably not thicc. <cite>blorfenburger posted [p:900742430] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Scout scouts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 4:50:10 PM #84:	Revelation34 posted... GanglyKhan posted... That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively. No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other. "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?" A pair of words being synonymous does not mean that all of both words' definitions are the same. For that matter, it doesn't even necessarily mean that one definition is the same. Just similar enough that they can be employed in similar contexts. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900747662] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>That's sex, not gender. I won't argue the two genders thing because that is wholly your opinion, but scientifically speaking, sex is determined by the bit between your legs and gender is the role you best associate with. That's irrefutable within the fields of biology/anatomy and sociology respectively.</quote> No it isn't. Sex and gender are synonyms of each other.</quote> "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?" A pair of words being synonymous does not mean that all of both words' definitions are the same. For that matter, it doesn't even necessarily mean that one definition is the same. Just similar enough that they can be employed in similar contexts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/03/18 4:52:02 PM #85:	adjl posted... "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?" You split something when you cleave it. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:900747758] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?"</quote> You split something when you cleave it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 4:52:32 PM #86:	Revelation34 posted... adjl posted... "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?" You split something when you cleave it. And then you can use some glue to cleave the split pieces back together. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900747791] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?"</quote> You split something when you cleave it.</quote> And then you can use some glue to cleave the split pieces back together.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/03/18 5:04:40 PM #87:	adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do. It would, but then everyone pays more across the board. You're asking to have your more careful personality taken into account. That's highly impractical for a new driver, and happens anyway as you spend more time driving and have a more concrete, personalized basis for determining your risk level. Zeus posted... Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment? A number of reasons: -That difference applies across an entire lifetime, whereas the gender-based difference in car insurance evens out as one accumulates a driving record -People who are applying for health insurance have medical histories already, providing more salient variables that insurance companies can consider. New drivers don't yet have driving records to consider -Not having health insurance kills people. Not having car insurance makes people take the bus. Again, I wouldn't be opposed to giving car insurance the same treatment, but it's understandable that it hasn't happened. What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board? Women should be paying just as much as men. If that requires women's rate's to go up to equalize with men....that's called gender equality, bro. Are you against gender equality? It would be equality to compensate for the men who would otherwise be paying MORE simply because they are male in the previous system. Seriously. Think about it for a moment. In the era of #MeToo and all that, if it was made into national headlines that FEMALES paid higher car insurance premiums than their male counterparts....there would be riots in the street until it got evened out. But, for some strange reason, when men are the victim....nobody says a word. If boyscouts want to get rid of gender, car insurance companies should too. Plus, car insurance companies impact a helluva lot more people than the boyscouts. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900748430] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>We don't have the manpower, time, or money to run a detailed diagnostic on each insurance holder? Um, completely removing the driver's gender from the equation would be, like, the easiest thing in the world to do.</quote> It would, but then everyone pays more across the board. You're asking to have your more careful personality taken into account. That's highly impractical for a new driver, and happens anyway as you spend more time driving and have a more concrete, personalized basis for determining your risk level. <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Which again comes back to my earlier observation -- health insurance companies statistically determined that women consume more services than men and, as such, want to charge them more. However, that's illegal on the basis of discrimination. Why shouldn't auto insurance discrimination against males receive that same treatment?</quote> A number of reasons: -That difference applies across an entire lifetime, whereas the gender-based difference in car insurance evens out as one accumulates a driving record -People who are applying for health insurance have medical histories already, providing more salient variables that insurance companies can consider. New drivers don't yet have driving records to consider -Not having health insurance kills people. Not having car insurance makes people take the bus. Again, I wouldn't be opposed to giving car insurance the same treatment, but it's understandable that it hasn't happened.</quote> What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board? Women should be paying just as much as men. If that requires women's rate's to go up to equalize with men....that's called gender equality, bro. Are you against gender equality? It would be equality to compensate for the men who would otherwise be paying MORE simply because they are male in the previous system. Seriously. Think about it for a moment. In the era of #MeToo and all that, if it was made into national headlines that FEMALES paid higher car insurance premiums than their male counterparts....there would be riots in the street until it got evened out. But, for some strange reason, when men are the victim....nobody says a word. If boyscouts want to get rid of gender, car insurance companies should too. Plus, car insurance companies impact a helluva lot more people than the boyscouts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 5:06:13 PM #88:	GreenKnight127 posted... What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board? "Everyone" including established good drivers. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900748511] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board?</quote> "Everyone" including established good drivers.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/03/18 5:27:01 PM #89:	adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board? "Everyone" including established good drivers. If I was paying as much as women, I wouldn't care. But since I'm paying MORE, simply because of my genitalia....I care very much. Because I have a huge problem with that. And so should you. So should any man. So should any reasonable human being that believes in true equality between the sexes. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900749634] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>What's wrong with everyone paying more across the board?</quote> "Everyone" including established good drivers.</quote> If I was paying as much as women, I wouldn't care. But since I'm paying MORE, simply because of my genitalia....I care very much. Because I have a huge problem with that. And so should you. So should any man. So should any reasonable human being that believes in true equality between the sexes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/03/18 6:44:48 PM #90:	Yeah, but sexes will never be equal everywhere because the fact that they are different immediately means they can't be equal. That's the very definition of what it means to be different, to not be of an equal state. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, expecting everyone to be treated the exact same sounds like some dystopic nightmare situation. I'm all for people being treated well, and I don't think having to pay a higher premium on car insurance is really a violation of your right to pursue happiness. That's more of a "you" issue than a social issue. I am willing to bet that at least 90% of males do not care or have an opinion on car insurance differences. Also, why are you so hung up on car insurance? Did you have a bad legal issue once or something? Genuine question here, not attempting to belittle you. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900753402] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but sexes will never be equal everywhere because the fact that they are different immediately means they can't be equal. That's the very definition of what it means to be different, to not be of an equal state. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, expecting everyone to be treated the exact same sounds like some dystopic nightmare situation. I'm all for people being treated well, and I don't think having to pay a higher premium on car insurance is really a violation of your right to pursue happiness. That's more of a "you" issue than a social issue. I am willing to bet that at least 90% of males do not care or have an opinion on car insurance differences. Also, why are you so hung up on car insurance? Did you have a bad legal issue once or something? Genuine question here, not attempting to belittle you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Greenfox111 05/03/18 6:48:20 PM #91:	adjl posted... Revelation34 posted... adjl posted... "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?" You split something when you cleave it. And then you can use some glue to cleave the split pieces back together. uh...no? --- Don't ask. <cite>Greenfox111 posted [p:900753574] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Revelation34 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> "Cleave" and "split" are synonyms of each other. Does that mean "Cleave" can't also mean entirely the opposite of "split?"</quote> You split something when you cleave it.</quote> And then you can use some glue to cleave the split pieces back together.</quote> uh...no?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/03/18 7:26:05 PM #92:	GanglyKhan posted... Yeah, but sexes will never be equal everywhere because the fact that they are different immediately means they can't be equal. That's the very definition of what it means to be different, to not be of an equal state. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, expecting everyone to be treated the exact same sounds like some dystopic nightmare situation. I'm all for people being treated well, and I don't think having to pay a higher premium on car insurance is really a violation of your right to pursue happiness. That's more of a "you" issue than a social issue. I am willing to bet that at least 90% of males do not care or have an opinion on car insurance differences. Also, why are you so hung up on car insurance? Did you have a bad legal issue once or something? Genuine question here, not attempting to belittle you. I totally agree that the sexes will never be equal everywhere. And yet.....the boyscouts are now dead because enough parents and bratty young girls pushed for equality to the point where a boy-exclusive organization was seen as sexist. So now that they won their little hissy fit.....the bar has been raised. So now we should start spreading this glorious "equality" to other things. And the first thing that came to mind was car insurance. shrugs --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900755450] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah, but sexes will never be equal everywhere because the fact that they are different immediately means they can't be equal. That's the very definition of what it means to be different, to not be of an equal state. Both sexes have advantages and disadvantages, expecting everyone to be treated the exact same sounds like some dystopic nightmare situation. I'm all for people being treated well, and I don't think having to pay a higher premium on car insurance is really a violation of your right to pursue happiness. That's more of a "you" issue than a social issue. I am willing to bet that at least 90% of males do not care or have an opinion on car insurance differences. Also, why are you so hung up on car insurance? Did you have a bad legal issue once or something? Genuine question here, not attempting to belittle you.</quote> I totally agree that the sexes will never be equal everywhere. And yet.....the boyscouts are now dead because enough parents and bratty young girls pushed for equality to the point where a boy-exclusive organization was seen as sexist. So now that they won their little hissy fit.....the bar has been raised. So now we should start spreading this glorious "equality" to other things. And the first thing that came to mind was car insurance. shrugs</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 8:10:26 PM #93:	GreenKnight127 posted... If I was paying as much as women, I wouldn't care. But since I'm paying MORE, simply because of my genitalia....I care very much. Because I have a huge problem with that. And so should you. So should any man. So should any reasonable human being that believes in true equality between the sexes. The whole point of the higher rates is to reflect an inequality between the sexes, though. Young men are more likely to get into accidents than young women. That's just the statistical reality of the matter. Ergo, they get charged more for car insurance, at least until they amass a driving record that provides insurance adjusters with more significant data (at which point you stop paying more because of your junk). Greenfox111 posted... uh...no? https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cleave Prior to the official acceptance of the widespread, egregious misuse of "literally," "cleave" was the only word in the English language that is it's own antonym. Now there are two. GreenKnight127 posted... And yet.....the boyscouts are now dead How exactly does this mean Scouts are now dead? --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900757717] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>If I was paying as much as women, I wouldn't care. But since I'm paying MORE, simply because of my genitalia....I care very much. Because I have a huge problem with that. And so should you. So should any man. So should any reasonable human being that believes in true equality between the sexes.</quote> The whole point of the higher rates is to reflect an inequality between the sexes, though. Young men are more likely to get into accidents than young women. That's just the statistical reality of the matter. Ergo, they get charged more for car insurance, at least until they amass a driving record that provides insurance adjusters with more significant data (at which point you stop paying more because of your junk). <cite>Greenfox111 posted...</cite> <quote>uh...no?</quote> https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/cleave Prior to the official acceptance of the widespread, egregious misuse of "literally," "cleave" was the only word in the English language that is it's own antonym. Now there are two. <cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>And yet.....the boyscouts are now dead</quote> How exactly does this mean Scouts are now dead?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/03/18 8:46:55 PM #94:	adjl posted... How exactly does this mean Scouts are now dead? The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? I thought my explanations have been very clear so far, and my comparison to car insurance quite easy-to-follow. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900759609] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote> How exactly does this mean Scouts are now dead?</quote> The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? I thought my explanations have been very clear so far, and my comparison to car insurance quite easy-to-follow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/03/18 8:47:49 PM #95:	Scouts are like insurance, because reasons --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900759663] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Scouts are like insurance, because reasons</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Revelation34 05/03/18 8:50:05 PM #96:	GreenKnight127 posted... The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? I thought my explanations have been very clear so far, and my comparison to car insurance quite easy-to-follow. Well they should get rid of the word "girl" in Girl Scouts then too and merge both. --- Gamertag: Kegfarms, BF code: 2033480226, Treasure Cruise code 318,374,355, Steam: Kegfarms <cite>Revelation34 posted [p:900759807] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? I thought my explanations have been very clear so far, and my comparison to car insurance quite easy-to-follow.</quote> Well they should get rid of the word "girl" in Girl Scouts then too and merge both.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 05/03/18 8:56:19 PM #97:	--- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:900760168] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/03/18 10:36:20 PM #98:	GreenKnight127 posted... The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? They're pretty easy to understand, they've just so utterly devoid of semantic value that I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and offering you a chance to add some meaning by elaborating. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900765247] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The "Scouts" aren't dead. The Boyscouts are dead. Because they aren't exclusive to boys anymore. Am I saying things that are difficult to understand or something? </quote> They're pretty easy to understand, they've just so utterly devoid of semantic value that I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt and offering you a chance to add some meaning by elaborating.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/03/18 10:45:48 PM #99:	They should call it the Atreus Scouts --- https://i.imgur.com/ysRN6GL.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:900765744] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>They should call it the Atreus Scouts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
shadowsword87 05/03/18 10:51:34 PM #100:	This is the weirdest f*ing hill to die on I've ever seen. --- ImmortalityV, "I would like to kiss Icoyar to be honest in a non gay way though" <cite>shadowsword87 posted [p:900766020] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>This is the weirdest f*ing hill to die on I've ever seen.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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