Poll of the Day > Boy Scouts to lose the 'Boy' in its Title...

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pionear 05/02/18 2:52:00 PM #1:	https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/boy-scouts-to-lose-the-boy-1154675/ And it will allow girls, transgender and non-binary or other in the groups... <cite>pionear posted [p:900686047] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>https://www.linkedin.com/feed/news/boy-scouts-to-lose-the-boy-1154675/ And it will allow girls, transgender and non-binary or other in the groups...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
minervo 05/02/18 3:02:06 PM #2:	Time's a changing <cite>minervo posted [p:900686536] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Time's a changing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 05/02/18 3:03:05 PM #3:	While I think they should have done this 30 years ago Girl scouts > boy scouts cookies>popcorn --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:900686584] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>While I think they should have done this 30 years ago Girl scouts > boy scouts cookies>popcorn</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 3:11:08 PM #4:	Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900686962] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 05/02/18 3:12:15 PM #5:	Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:900687012] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 3:14:09 PM #6:	MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? Yeah any kind of social group for kids Although from what I hear the Girl Scouts are fairly lame compared to the Boy version --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900687105] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> Yeah any kind of social group for kids Although from what I hear the Girl Scouts are fairly lame compared to the Boy version</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 05/02/18 3:14:39 PM #7:	Mead posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? Yeah any kind of social group for kids What about sports? <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:900687134] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> Yeah any kind of social group for kids</quote> What about sports?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 3:16:03 PM #8:	MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? Yeah any kind of social group for kids What about sports? I dont know --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900687202] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> Yeah any kind of social group for kids</quote> What about sports?</quote> I dont know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 05/02/18 3:16:53 PM #9:	<cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:900687241] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 3:17:17 PM #10:	--- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900687263] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote> --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 05/02/18 3:19:30 PM #11:	<cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:900687371] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 05/02/18 3:24:35 PM #12:	I'm very surprised by this, considering the last I heard, the Boy Scouts were very anti-gay. Still, that's pretty cool --- My arts- http://gopherguy.deviantart.com/ <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:900687641] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>I'm very surprised by this, considering the last I heard, the Boy Scouts were very anti-gay. Still, that's pretty cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 3:41:09 PM #13:	I had a grandiose post about how I felt on the matter but the internet cut out so it was all lost. Oh well. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900688477] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>I had a grandiose post about how I felt on the matter but the internet cut out so it was all lost. Oh well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/02/18 3:42:43 PM #14:	Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:900688560] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dioxxys 05/02/18 3:44:07 PM #15:	If I were in Scouts I would worry about the latest relationship drama at scouts, now that its mixed company. Why could she just have changed girl scouts? <cite>dioxxys posted [p:900688635] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>If I were in Scouts I would worry about the latest relationship drama at scouts, now that its mixed company. Why could she just have changed girl scouts?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MICHALECOLE 05/02/18 4:07:47 PM #16:	knivesX2004 posted... Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted. Pretty sure its different now <cite>MICHALECOLE posted [p:900689811] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted.</quote> Pretty sure its different now</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ernieforss 05/02/18 4:14:54 PM #17:	damn can't wait to see how they are going to do camping. --- I'm always 50% right all the time <cite>ernieforss posted [p:900690156] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>damn can't wait to see how they are going to do camping.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Krazy_Kirby 05/02/18 4:18:33 PM #18:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BVVm2IL1oE" data-time=" --- Kill From The Shadows. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Idiot <cite>Krazy_Kirby posted [p:900690351] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BVVm2IL1oE" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
slacker03150 05/02/18 4:24:01 PM #19:	MICHALECOLE posted... knivesX2004 posted... Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted. Pretty sure its different now https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10211808 --- I am awesome and so are you. Lenny gone but not forgotten. - 12/10/2015 <cite>slacker03150 posted [p:900690614] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted.</quote> Pretty sure its different now</quote> https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/10211808</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VioletZer0 05/02/18 4:24:58 PM #20:	Boy scouts have actually done this for a while, they're just changing the name now. Girl scouts also allow boys in now a days. <cite>VioletZer0 posted [p:900690665] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts have actually done this for a while, they're just changing the name now. Girl scouts also allow boys in now a days.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 4:41:19 PM #21:	knivesX2004 posted... Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted. What religion says that only boys can be scouts --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900691555] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted.</quote> What religion says that only boys can be scouts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Viking_Mudcrap 05/02/18 4:44:37 PM #22:	Joining the boyscouts may be legit now. You have odds of smashing now. I mean, they did before, but if you weren't gay, then meh. --- stuff <cite>Viking_Mudcrap posted [p:900691753] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Joining the boyscouts may be legit now. You have odds of smashing now. I mean, they did before, but if you weren't gay, then meh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 4:47:12 PM #23:	Scouts had girls in it back when I was in Scouts, and that was like 15-20 years ago. Y'all 'muricans are slow. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900691898] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Scouts had girls in it back when I was in Scouts, and that was like 15-20 years ago. Y'all 'muricans are slow.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ernieforss 05/02/18 5:13:55 PM #24:	@Mead I use to be in boy scouts. i would say they are christians. But i don't think they will turn down anybody to join. But i will say they believe in Abraham's God. --- I'm always 50% right all the time <cite>ernieforss posted [p:900693283] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>@Mead I use to be in boy scouts. i would say they are christians. But i don't think they will turn down anybody to join. But i will say they believe in Abraham's God.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 5:17:21 PM #25:	All this whining about gender identity, oppression, fairness, exclusion, hurt feelings, and victimhood..... And yet I don't hear a single person talking about the fact that 16 year old BOYS have higher car insurance rates than 16 year olds girls....simply due to the fact that they were born with certain genitalia between their legs. I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. But no one likes to talk about that. Instead, they'd rather talk about The Boyscouts. The military paying for transition surgery. Who can use which restroom. Using gender-neutral pronouns on college campuses so the kids don't get offended. Sheesh. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900693442] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>All this whining about gender identity, oppression, fairness, exclusion, hurt feelings, and victimhood..... And yet I don't hear a single person talking about the fact that 16 year old BOYS have higher car insurance rates than 16 year olds girls....simply due to the fact that they were born with certain genitalia between their legs. I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. But no one likes to talk about that. Instead, they'd rather talk about The Boyscouts. The military paying for transition surgery. Who can use which restroom. Using gender-neutral pronouns on college campuses so the kids don't get offended. Sheesh.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LinkPizza 05/02/18 5:24:31 PM #26:	GreenKnight127 posted... All this whining about gender identity, oppression, fairness, exclusion, hurt feelings, and victimhood..... And yet I don't hear a single person talking about the fact that 16 year old BOYS have higher car insurance rates than 16 year olds girls....simply due to the fact that they were born with certain genitalia between their legs. I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. But no one likes to talk about that. Instead, they'd rather talk about The Boyscouts. The military paying for transition surgery. Who can use which restroom. Using gender-neutral pronouns on college campuses so the kids don't get offended. Sheesh. We do complain. But that's normally in real life. I hear that all the time. But normally, I heard it in school. When I was a 16 year old boy. Because I am an adult, I rarely ever see 16 year old boys unless I go to like a fast food place, for example... --- Official King of Kings Switch FC: 7216-4417-4511 Add Me because I'll probably add you. I'm probably the LinkPizza you'll see around. <cite>LinkPizza posted [p:900693800] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>All this whining about gender identity, oppression, fairness, exclusion, hurt feelings, and victimhood..... And yet I don't hear a single person talking about the fact that 16 year old BOYS have higher car insurance rates than 16 year olds girls....simply due to the fact that they were born with certain genitalia between their legs. I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. But no one likes to talk about that. Instead, they'd rather talk about The Boyscouts. The military paying for transition surgery. Who can use which restroom. Using gender-neutral pronouns on college campuses so the kids don't get offended. Sheesh.</quote> We do complain. But that's normally in real life. I hear that all the time. But normally, I heard it in school. When I was a 16 year old boy. Because I am an adult, I rarely ever see 16 year old boys unless I go to like a fast food place, for example...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 5:26:00 PM #27:	GreenKnight127 posted... I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. Same reason people with hotmail accounts have to pay more than people with gmail accounts. Insurance companies just go by statistics. Presumably, the girls that spent the next few years continuing to drive irresponsibly now pay more than you, because they likely had more accidents. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900693880] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. </quote> Same reason people with hotmail accounts have to pay more than people with gmail accounts. Insurance companies just go by statistics. Presumably, the girls that spent the next few years continuing to drive irresponsibly now pay more than you, because they likely had more accidents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
IsGregor 05/02/18 5:28:23 PM #28:	MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... MICHALECOLE posted... Mead posted... Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club Girl Scouts too though, right? Yeah any kind of social group for kids What about sports? For kids around the elementary school age, coed sports teams aren't really a problem. --- King sucks, plain and simple. <cite>IsGregor posted [p:900694014] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote><cite>MICHALECOLE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>Good, kids shouldnt feel excluded because they have the wrong genitals for a club</quote> Girl Scouts too though, right?</quote> Yeah any kind of social group for kids</quote> What about sports?</quote> For kids around the elementary school age, coed sports teams aren't really a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
InfestedAdam 05/02/18 5:33:55 PM #29:	Pus_N_Pecans posted... I'm very surprised by this, considering the last I heard, the Boy Scouts were very anti-gay In 2013 the BSA voted to allow homosexual boys into the program and I think in 2015 they voted to allow homosexual adults into the program as adult leaders. knivesX2004 posted... Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted. Depends on the individuals involve. One of our adult leaders was almost denied his Eagle rank when he was a Scout in Ohio as he was borderline atheist at the time. In our local council, we don't focus on religion as much and on the Eagle character boards rarely talk about it. I doubt anyone within our council will deny a Scout his Eagle rank if he declare himself an atheist. adjl posted... Scouts had girls in it back when I was in Scouts, and that was like 15-20 years ago. Y'all 'muricans are slow. Hell. We already have girls in our Venture Crew which is co-ed. Some folks act as if this is the first time girls are joining the BSA. --- "You must gather your party before venturing forth" "Go for the eyes Boo! Go for the eyes!" <cite>InfestedAdam posted [p:900694263] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted...</cite> <quote>I'm very surprised by this, considering the last I heard, the Boy Scouts were very anti-gay</quote> In 2013 the BSA voted to allow homosexual boys into the program and I think in 2015 they voted to allow homosexual adults into the program as adult leaders. <cite>knivesX2004 posted...</cite> <quote>Boy scouts is a religious organization first and foremost. Anyone who says otherwise hasn't been in it. These people may be "allowed" in but I doubt all of them will be accepted.</quote> Depends on the individuals involve. One of our adult leaders was almost denied his Eagle rank when he was a Scout in Ohio as he was borderline atheist at the time. In our local council, we don't focus on religion as much and on the Eagle character boards rarely talk about it. I doubt anyone within our council will deny a Scout his Eagle rank if he declare himself an atheist. <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote>Scouts had girls in it back when I was in Scouts, and that was like 15-20 years ago. Y'all 'muricans are slow.</quote> Hell. We already have girls in our Venture Crew which is co-ed. Some folks act as if this is the first time girls are joining the BSA.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mead 05/02/18 5:49:19 PM #30:	ernieforss posted... Mead I use to be in boy scouts. i would say they are christians. But i don't think they will turn down anybody to join. But i will say they believe in Abraham's God. I was in Scouts too, my point was that no part of Christianity says that you should exclude girls or gay people from your groups --- If they drag you through the mud, it doesnt change whats in your blood <cite>Mead posted [p:900694985] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>ernieforss posted...</cite> <quote>Mead I use to be in boy scouts. i would say they are christians. But i don't think they will turn down anybody to join. But i will say they believe in Abraham's God.</quote> I was in Scouts too, my point was that no part of Christianity says that you should exclude girls or gay people from your groups</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/02/18 5:50:16 PM #31:	It's a fucking stupid change and the culmination of countless stupid changes, all to try to fix dwindling enrollment. And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid. (Granted, they might leave the "Cub Scouts" as is?) pionear posted... non-binary adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. Same reason people with hotmail accounts have to pay more than people with gmail accounts. Insurance companies just go by statistics. Presumably, the girls that spent the next few years continuing to drive irresponsibly now pay more than you, because they likely had more accidents. And yet it's illegal for them to charge based on gender for other insurances, specifically ones which don't benefit women. (Granted, that's to be expected from our gynocentric legal system.) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:900695041] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>It's a fucking stupid change and the culmination of countless stupid changes, all to try to fix dwindling enrollment. And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid. (Granted, they might leave the "Cub Scouts" as is?) <cite>pionear posted...</cite> <quote>non-binary </quote> <cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist. </quote> Same reason people with hotmail accounts have to pay more than people with gmail accounts. Insurance companies just go by statistics. Presumably, the girls that spent the next few years continuing to drive irresponsibly now pay more than you, because they likely had more accidents.</quote> And yet it's illegal for them to charge based on gender for other insurances, specifically ones which don't benefit women. (Granted, that's to be expected from our gynocentric legal system.)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 5:57:39 PM #32:	Zeus posted... And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid. The overarching organization is just "Scouts Canada" up here. Hasn't killed anyone yet. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900695392] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid.</quote> The overarching organization is just "Scouts Canada" up here. Hasn't killed anyone yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 5:57:44 PM #33:	If people want girls to be able to join the boyscouts, and "gender" to not even exist anymore, and for everyone to be treated equally....then 16 year old boys and 16 year old girls should have the exact same insurance premiums. The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive, and how long they have been driving, and plus or minus any accidents. But same model car? Same age? Twin brothers and sisters who share a car? Same birthday? Same amount of driving experience? The boy's insurance premium will be higher. And that should be illegal. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900695396] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>If people want girls to be able to join the boyscouts, and "gender" to not even exist anymore, and for everyone to be treated equally....then 16 year old boys and 16 year old girls should have the exact same insurance premiums. The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive, and how long they have been driving, and plus or minus any accidents. But same model car? Same age? Twin brothers and sisters who share a car? Same birthday? Same amount of driving experience? The boy's insurance premium will be higher. And that should be illegal.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 6:00:18 PM #34:	GreenKnight127 posted... I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900695521] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist</quote> It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/02/18 6:12:28 PM #35:	They're allowing girls now, that's cool. Yeah I don't think this is a PC thing, my sister actually wanted to join when we were kids. They've always been pretty relaxed about it anyway. They say membership is declining. Probably because kids don't want to leave the house anymore. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsKplb2E6Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:900696096] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>They're allowing girls now, that's cool. Yeah I don't think this is a PC thing, my sister actually wanted to join when we were kids. They've always been pretty relaxed about it anyway. They say membership is declining. Probably because kids don't want to leave the house anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lokarin 05/02/18 6:15:23 PM #36:	Cool, they'll allow adults in the group? --- "Salt cures Everything!" My YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/Nirakolov/videos <cite>Lokarin posted [p:900696237] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Cool, they'll allow adults in the group?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knivesX2004 05/02/18 6:15:44 PM #37:	InfestedAdam posted... Depends on the individuals involve. One of our adult leaders was almost denied his Eagle rank when he was a Scout in Ohio as he was borderline atheist at the time. In our local council, we don't focus on religion as much and on the Eagle character boards rarely talk about it. I doubt anyone within our council will deny a Scout his Eagle rank if he declare himself an atheist. My friend had to hide his homosexuality until after he got his eagle. He predicted they would kick him out. He was right. Mead posted... What religion says that only boys can be scouts Whatever one has that Bible that people misquote and don't understand to say things like homosexuality is a sin and it's ok to rape preteen girls if you are running for office. <cite>knivesX2004 posted [p:900696263] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>InfestedAdam posted...</cite> <quote>Depends on the individuals involve. One of our adult leaders was almost denied his Eagle rank when he was a Scout in Ohio as he was borderline atheist at the time. In our local council, we don't focus on religion as much and on the Eagle character boards rarely talk about it. I doubt anyone within our council will deny a Scout his Eagle rank if he declare himself an atheist.</quote> My friend had to hide his homosexuality until after he got his eagle. He predicted they would kick him out. He was right. <cite>Mead posted...</cite> <quote>What religion says that only boys can be scouts</quote> Whatever one has that Bible that people misquote and don't understand to say things like homosexuality is a sin and it's ok to rape preteen girls if you are running for office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/02/18 6:18:22 PM #38:	Wow feminism is ruining even the lame parts of masculinity. --- https://i.imgur.com/ysRN6GL.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:900696396] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Wow feminism is ruining even the lame parts of masculinity.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 6:52:30 PM #39:	GreenKnight127 posted... The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive That's no less discriminatory. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900698111] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive</quote> That's no less discriminatory.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/02/18 6:53:19 PM #40:	Pretty sure insurance companies aren't allowed to price based on gender where I live. --- https://i.imgur.com/ysRN6GL.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:900698147] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure insurance companies aren't allowed to price based on gender where I live.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 7:25:50 PM #41:	GanglyKhan posted... GreenKnight127 posted... I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things. If girls want to join the boyscouts, and if society wants to remove all gender boundaries....they can't cherry pick their oppression. They need to do it all across the board, or not at all. If girls can join the boyscouts, then 16 year old boys should pay the same premiums on their car insurance as 16 year old girls. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900699723] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist</quote> It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things.</quote> If girls want to join the boyscouts, and if society wants to remove all gender boundaries....they can't cherry pick their oppression. They need to do it all across the board, or not at all. If girls can join the boyscouts, then 16 year old boys should pay the same premiums on their car insurance as 16 year old girls.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blightzkrieg 05/02/18 7:26:36 PM #42:	You do realize the same people aren't in charge of all of these things right --- https://i.imgur.com/ysRN6GL.png <cite>Blightzkrieg posted [p:900699766] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote>You do realize the same people aren't in charge of all of these things right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GreenKnight127 05/02/18 7:27:55 PM #43:	adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive That's no less discriminatory. No, because now we have gone beyond the bounds of discrimination. Discrimination against gender is one thing.....acknowledging the difference between a rusty ass 1991 Chevrolet and a 2013 Volvo is another thing entirely. Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles. --- ~Gamefaqs logic: Q: If it's so obviously a troll topic...why are you responding to it? A: "Because I have to tell them it's a troll topic!" facepalm <cite>GreenKnight127 posted [p:900699825] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive</quote> That's no less discriminatory.</quote> No, because now we have gone beyond the bounds of discrimination. Discrimination against gender is one thing.....acknowledging the difference between a rusty ass 1991 Chevrolet and a 2013 Volvo is another thing entirely. Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 7:43:11 PM #44:	GreenKnight127 posted... Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles. And what about equally-valued vehicles that have different premiums? Because that also happens, based on how likely said models are to be involved in an accident. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900700552] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>Obviously, the insurance premiums should differ for such dramatically different valued vehicles.</quote> And what about equally-valued vehicles that have different premiums? Because that also happens, based on how likely said models are to be involved in an accident.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 7:49:00 PM #45:	GreenKnight127 posted... If girls want to join the boyscouts, and if society wants to remove all gender boundaries....they can't cherry pick their oppression. Whoa, man, don't use the word "oppression" so lightly. Oppression is depriving someone of basic rights, not disallowing people from certain groups and clubs. Why even have clubs if you're not going to be exclusive? Like that one guy in this thread said, are we going to let adults join now? I think having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts as separate entities for each sex is important. If they want to show some progressive thinking with the new wave feelings on gender roles, they should start teaching different skills to each group. No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle. It's important for people of all ages to have certain groups where they belong based on any number of factors. Sometimes boys just wanna be boys with the boys. You'd also be deadass lying if you told me that most girls don't feel the same way. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900700851] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>If girls want to join the boyscouts, and if society wants to remove all gender boundaries....they can't cherry pick their oppression.</quote> Whoa, man, don't use the word "oppression" so lightly. Oppression is depriving someone of basic rights, not disallowing people from certain groups and clubs. Why even have clubs if you're not going to be exclusive? Like that one guy in this thread said, are we going to let adults join now? I think having Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts as separate entities for each sex is important. If they want to show some progressive thinking with the new wave feelings on gender roles, they should start teaching different skills to each group. No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle. It's important for people of all ages to have certain groups where they belong based on any number of factors. Sometimes boys just wanna be boys with the boys. You'd also be deadass lying if you told me that most girls don't feel the same way.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
adjl 05/02/18 7:53:57 PM #46:	GanglyKhan posted... No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle. It makes a whole lot more sense to let the girls learn those things from the ones currently teaching the boys (and vice versa) than to get new teachers for both groups, though. GanglyKhan posted... Why even have clubs if you're not going to be exclusive? You can be exclusive, just not on the basis of things that have nothing to do with club activities. That's just silly. --- This is my signature. It exists to keep people from skipping the last line of my posts. <cite>adjl posted [p:900701104] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle.</quote> It makes a whole lot more sense to let the girls learn those things from the ones currently teaching the boys (and vice versa) than to get new teachers for both groups, though. <cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>Why even have clubs if you're not going to be exclusive?</quote> You can be exclusive, just not on the basis of things that have nothing to do with club activities. That's just silly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
GanglyKhan 05/02/18 7:57:58 PM #47:	adjl posted... GanglyKhan posted... No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle. It makes a whole lot more sense to let the girls learn those things from the ones currently teaching the boys (and vice versa) than to get new teachers for both groups, though. I like that idea quite a bit, however, I still stand by my previous feelings about the two groups remaining exclusive. Having events and meetings where both of them work together and do activities mixed about would benefit them (and to the best of my knowledge that does happen sometimes) and having them help each other sounds like a really good way to teach them a bit of humility in the sense that you don't know everything and you can learn things from other people who don't come from a group that you belong to, which is pretty much 75% of American society's problem today. <cite>GanglyKhan posted [p:900701303] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote>No reason why boys can't learn to stitch and be artistic and there's no reason why girls can't do woodwork and shoot a rifle.</quote> It makes a whole lot more sense to let the girls learn those things from the ones currently teaching the boys (and vice versa) than to get new teachers for both groups, though.</quote> I like that idea quite a bit, however, I still stand by my previous feelings about the two groups remaining exclusive. Having events and meetings where both of them work together and do activities mixed about would benefit them (and to the best of my knowledge that does happen sometimes) and having them help each other sounds like a really good way to teach them a bit of humility in the sense that you don't know everything and you can learn things from other people who don't come from a group that you belong to, which is pretty much 75% of American society's problem today.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Yellow 05/02/18 8:22:34 PM #48:	Lokarin posted... Cool, they'll allow adults in the group? Parents hang out with the other parents all the time. They go along too. Same with grown up scouts, they just turn into den leaders. Random grown men? I don't know anything about that. I know adult friends of friends went along, I don't think they had any real connection. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBsKplb2E6Q <cite>Yellow posted [p:900702553] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>Lokarin posted...</cite> <quote>Cool, they'll allow adults in the group?</quote> Parents hang out with the other parents all the time. They go along too. Same with grown up scouts, they just turn into den leaders. Random grown men? I don't know anything about that. I know adult friends of friends went along, I don't think they had any real connection.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/02/18 8:24:53 PM #49:	adjl posted... Zeus posted... And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid. The overarching organization is just "Scouts Canada" up here. Hasn't killed anyone yet. Doesn't sound much better. GanglyKhan posted... GreenKnight127 posted... I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things. Which brings us back to my earlier remark: Zeus posted... And yet it's illegal for them to charge based on gender for other insurances, specifically ones which don't benefit women. (Granted, that's to be expected from our gynocentric legal system.) --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:900702675] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And, more broadly, just calling it "Scouts" is going to be stupid.</quote> The overarching organization is just "Scouts Canada" up here. Hasn't killed anyone yet.</quote> Doesn't sound much better. <cite>GanglyKhan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>I was a responsible, calm, collected, and intelligent 16 year old. Why did I have to pay higher insurance premiums than the stupid, careless, irresponsible 16 year old girls who loved to speed in their little Dodge Neons to school? Sexist</quote> It's called statistics, in fact. Stop being salty. Society doesn't revolve around you or me, it works off of averages and baselines. The sooner you embrace that, the less annoyed you're going to be with things.</quote> Which brings us back to my earlier remark: <cite>Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>And yet it's illegal for them to charge based on gender for other insurances, specifically ones which don't benefit women. (Granted, that's to be expected from our gynocentric legal system.)</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeus 05/02/18 8:26:10 PM #50:	adjl posted... GreenKnight127 posted... The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive That's no less discriminatory. So basically you think charging based on a controllable factor like the kind of vehicle you buy and whether you're getting it used or new is no less discriminatory than basing it on innate human characteristics like gender and race? >_> --- (\/)(\/)\|-\| There are precious few at ease / With moral ambiguities / So we act as though they don't exist. <cite>Zeus posted [p:900702739] in Boy Scouts... [t:76572757]...</cite> <quote><cite>adjl posted...</cite> <quote><cite>GreenKnight127 posted...</cite> <quote>The only thing that should impact the difference in the premium is what type of vehicle they drive</quote> That's no less discriminatory.</quote> So basically you think charging based on a controllable factor like the kind of vehicle you buy and whether you're getting it used or new is no less discriminatory than basing it on innate human characteristics like gender and race? >_></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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