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YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 7:46:51 PM #359:	Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. Sometimes you profile without realizing it Maybe it's unfair to say these guys are bad for doing it But like, me for example, it was late at night at the hotel I work at, like 2 in the morning 2 pretty dirty, face red, not well-dressed white guys come into the hotel and they try to check in (they couldn't because they didn't have a credit card but that's beside the point) but one of them goes to use the restroom when this guy's card declines after 10 minutes i decide it's been a long time and i should check on him and he got mad apparently cause he called me the f-slur for gay as he left for "trying to look at his dick" I spent a long time wondering about that incident and realized that I totally profiled them because they were white, poor looking, and had faces that looked itched (symptom of opioid use) i only thought they were shooting up in the bathroom because of what they looked like, but i didn't consciously make that decision in the moment but the more i thought about it, the more i began to realize that guy probably didn't realize that I had done that, though so either he really thought i was just trying to be a perv, or he had no concept in his mind even that he could be profiled against --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899663947] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination.</quote> Sometimes you profile without realizing it Maybe it's unfair to say these guys are bad for doing it But like, me for example, it was late at night at the hotel I work at, like 2 in the morning 2 pretty dirty, face red, not well-dressed white guys come into the hotel and they try to check in (they couldn't because they didn't have a credit card but that's beside the point) but one of them goes to use the restroom when this guy's card declines after 10 minutes i decide it's been a long time and i should check on him and he got mad apparently cause he called me the f-slur for gay as he left for "trying to look at his dick" I spent a long time wondering about that incident and realized that I totally profiled them because they were white, poor looking, and had faces that looked itched (symptom of opioid use) i only thought they were shooting up in the bathroom because of what they looked like, but i didn't consciously make that decision in the moment but the more i thought about it, the more i began to realize that guy probably didn't realize that I had done that, though so either he really thought i was just trying to be a perv, or he had no concept in his mind even that he could be profiled against</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 04/14/18 7:51:57 PM #361:	Bullet_Wing posted... Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:899664208] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote>From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination.</quote> It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination</quote> They'd have a hard time proving it,tho.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 7:53:57 PM #362:	tremain07 posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. This Starbucks not have cameras? --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899664314] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote> From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. </quote> It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination</quote> They'd have a hard time proving it,tho.</quote> This Starbucks not have cameras?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 7:54:16 PM #363:	Bullet_Wing posted... Well, this is a case of people being right for the wrong reasons https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html Apparently the store employees requested them to leave so 911 was called. They were not making a disturbance, so the other customers were unaware of any wrongdoing which was all we had to go on. I retract my earlier statement that the barista should be fired (though calling 911 seems a bit extreme). However certain trolls in here like Seroquel_Dreams and the Garo person really did out themselves as racist and were justly modded. Also the people who jumped to conclusions about the men being rowdy and disturbing others were also as wrong here as the people who immediately jumped to calling the cops racist. I stand by my response to @Nomadic_View and given that he is a rational person, I think he will agree that in light of what we knew, believing the men to be wrongfully persecuted (not necessarily discriminated against) was a logical conclusion at the time. If, in fact, they were asked to leave, and they wouldn't, calling the police was the right call. I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899664328] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote>Well, this is a case of people being right for the wrong reasons https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html Apparently the store employees requested them to leave so 911 was called. They were not making a disturbance, so the other customers were unaware of any wrongdoing which was all we had to go on. I retract my earlier statement that the barista should be fired (though calling 911 seems a bit extreme). However certain trolls in here like Seroquel_Dreams and the Garo person really did out themselves as racist and were justly modded. Also the people who jumped to conclusions about the men being rowdy and disturbing others were also as wrong here as the people who immediately jumped to calling the cops racist. I stand by my response to @Nomadic_View and given that he is a rational person, I think he will agree that in light of what we knew, believing the men to be wrongfully persecuted (not necessarily discriminated against) was a logical conclusion at the time.</quote> If, in fact, they were asked to leave, and they wouldn't, calling the police was the right call. I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 04/14/18 7:56:00 PM #364:	A_Good_Boy posted... tremain07 posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. This Starbucks not have cameras? Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:899664427] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote> From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. </quote> It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination</quote> They'd have a hard time proving it,tho.</quote> This Starbucks not have cameras?</quote> Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 7:56:46 PM #365:	darkjedilink posted... I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men. because they didn't comply probably because they were waiting for a friend and found it ludicrous they should be asked to leave lol but the arrest happened with no resistance and they were released with nothing after midnight --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899664462] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men.</quote> because they didn't comply probably because they were waiting for a friend and found it ludicrous they should be asked to leave lol but the arrest happened with no resistance and they were released with nothing after midnight</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 7:56:59 PM #366:	Akagami_Shanks posted... Innocent until proven guilty only works if you're not black Then in the eyes of people on CE, you are guilty, even if proven innocent. Just take a look at this topic I guess you've never seen a white person accused of rape before. These guys weren't "proven innocent." They were asked to leave, and refused. Calling the police is the right call in that case. Also, "innocent until proven guilty" only counts in the courtroom - you don't get to run away from the cops until they prove you did something. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899664474] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Akagami_Shanks posted...</cite> <quote>Innocent until proven guilty only works if you're not black Then in the eyes of people on CE, you are guilty, even if proven innocent. Just take a look at this topic</quote> I guess you've never seen a white person accused of rape before. These guys weren't "proven innocent." They were asked to leave, and refused. Calling the police is the right call in that case. Also, "innocent until proven guilty" only counts in the courtroom - you don't get to run away from the cops until they prove you did something.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 7:58:57 PM #367:	tremain07 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... tremain07 posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. This Starbucks not have cameras? Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave. If security cameras can show that only the black customers that were escorted out while everyone else was left alone then it's not hard to prove that at all. The manager doesn't exactly need to write a manifesto about his dislike of black people to prove racism, the bias would be enough proof. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899664573] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote> From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. </quote> It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination </quote> They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. </quote> This Starbucks not have cameras?</quote> Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave.</quote> If security cameras can show that only the black customers that were escorted out while everyone else was left alone then it's not hard to prove that at all. The manager doesn't exactly need to write a manifesto about his dislike of black people to prove racism, the bias would be enough proof.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 04/14/18 7:59:07 PM #368:	Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:899664582] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WSM Piru 04/14/18 8:01:56 PM #369:	FrisbeeDude posted... Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country Shenangins like this is why America runs on Dunkin tbh --- You look good by yourself, but you'd look better with me. <cite>WSM Piru posted [p:899664711] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country</quote> Shenangins like this is why America runs on Dunkin tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tremain07 04/14/18 8:02:31 PM #370:	A_Good_Boy posted... tremain07 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... tremain07 posted... Bullet_Wing posted... Prestoff posted... From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. This Starbucks not have cameras? Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave. If security cameras can show that only the black customers that were escorted out while everyone else was left alone then it's not hard to prove that at all. The manager doesn't exactly need to write a manifesto about his dislike of black people to prove racism, the bias would be enough proof. You'd be surprised, especially since the witnesses could be unreliable and nobody could prove they were being stand offish with management, it's a he said, they said case and considering on one side is a corporation and the other just two dudes, I doubt they'll win a suit let alone even be able to pay for a dragged out one. --- I got nothing <cite>tremain07 posted [p:899664738] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>tremain07 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Bullet_Wing posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote> From reading other articles, I think it was because they asked to use the bathroom and they responded that it was for paying customers only (which is fair on Starbucks case), but that still doesn't explain nor justify the manager asking the police to remove the 2 guys. I really hope there is more to the story or this might actually be a case of discrimination. </quote> It seems the manager allowed other non paying customers to use the bathroom and sit there though, so it still could be discrimination </quote> They'd have a hard time proving it,tho. </quote> This Starbucks not have cameras?</quote> Yes, they'd have to prove it was because they were black rather than because they refused to comply with management and leave.</quote> If security cameras can show that only the black customers that were escorted out while everyone else was left alone then it's not hard to prove that at all. The manager doesn't exactly need to write a manifesto about his dislike of black people to prove racism, the bias would be enough proof.</quote> You'd be surprised, especially since the witnesses could be unreliable and nobody could prove they were being stand offish with management, it's a he said, they said case and considering on one side is a corporation and the other just two dudes, I doubt they'll win a suit let alone even be able to pay for a dragged out one.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Reis 04/14/18 8:02:54 PM #371:	WSM Piru posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country Shenangins like this is why America runs on Dunkin tbh Midwestern hicks don't even have dunkin lmfao <cite>Reis posted [p:899664752] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>WSM Piru posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Its honestly vary wearying being a black man in this country</quote> Shenangins like this is why America runs on Dunkin tbh</quote> Midwestern hicks don't even have dunkin lmfao</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 8:03:15 PM #372:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... darkjedilink posted... I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men. because they didn't comply probably because they were waiting for a friend and found it ludicrous they should be asked to leave lol but the arrest happened with no resistance and they were released with nothing after midnight They didn't comply with the police showing up and asking them to leave? Like, that's what happened? The manager asked them to leave, they said "no," the manager called the cops, the cops showed up and asked them to leave, and they told the police "no?" THEN got arrested? If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!" --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899664761] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>I still don't see why they were arrested, though - I've asked people to leave, and had called the police on a few that wouldn't. Nobody was ever arrested, even the black people. I still feel like we're missing something here, if the police actually arrested these men.</quote> because they didn't comply probably because they were waiting for a friend and found it ludicrous they should be asked to leave lol but the arrest happened with no resistance and they were released with nothing after midnight</quote> They didn't comply with the police showing up and asking them to leave? Like, that's what happened? The manager asked them to leave, they said "no," the manager called the cops, the cops showed up and asked them to leave, and they told the police "no?" THEN got arrested? If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 04/14/18 8:09:55 PM #373:	just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:899665083] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/14/18 8:11:21 PM #374:	RickyTheBAWSE posted... just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here. And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:899665152] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here.</quote> And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
WSM Piru 04/14/18 8:12:29 PM #375:	Bishop9800 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here. And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying. In summation, Starbucks feared for its life so all actions were justified. --- You look good by yourself, but you'd look better with me. <cite>WSM Piru posted [p:899665203] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here.</quote> And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying.</quote> In summation, Starbucks feared for its life so all actions were justified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 04/14/18 8:14:51 PM #376:	darkjedilink posted... If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!" It makes sense why bystanders would act this way, because they felt the arrest wasn't justified. I'm still trying to find out a proper reason why the Manager would call the police on them to begin with. It's not uncommon occurrence for people to wait on a friend before ordering anything. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:899665303] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!"</quote> It makes sense why bystanders would act this way, because they felt the arrest wasn't justified. I'm still trying to find out a proper reason why the Manager would call the police on them to begin with. It's not uncommon occurrence for people to wait on a friend before ordering anything.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/14/18 8:15:08 PM #377:	WSM Piru posted... Bishop9800 posted... RickyTheBAWSE posted... just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here. And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying. In summation, Starbucks feared for its life so all actions were justified. For real!! --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:899665317] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>WSM Piru posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted...</cite> <quote>just skimming the thread to see if anybody has been warned/suspended. emotional outburst isn't usually something people feel ashamed about here.</quote> And to see what racist shit the usual suspects are saying.</quote> In summation, Starbucks feared for its life so all actions were justified.</quote> For real!!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 8:21:46 PM #378:	Okay So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. Officers asked them to leave 3 times, because the store said they were trespassing and they refused. They were then arrested. I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899665616] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Okay So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. Officers asked them to leave 3 times, because the store said they were trespassing and they refused. They were then arrested. I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/14/18 8:23:32 PM #379:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. So the question now is, why were they asked to leave? --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:899665692] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused.</quote> So the question now is, why were they asked to leave?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Northlane 04/14/18 8:24:12 PM #380:	Sounds like a pretty nice payday --- Lakers \| D'Angelo died for our sins Raiders \| http://i.imgur.com/7OgSX2o.jpg <cite>Northlane posted [p:899665716] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Sounds like a pretty nice payday</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fuparulez 04/14/18 8:25:17 PM #381:	When you're a patron waiting for your party to assemble you wait outside instead of taking up a table, and when you're a manager and you have people who aren't ordering anything and won't leave when asked, you call the police. And the conclusion, of course... "But but but racism!" If you're taking up a table in a restaurant and you aren't ordering anything, you're costing the server and the establishment money and you will be asked to leave if the place is busy. --- It's the fat upper kitty area, and if you got one I wanna marry ya! <cite>Fuparulez posted [p:899665764] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>When you're a patron waiting for your party to assemble you wait outside instead of taking up a table, and when you're a manager and you have people who aren't ordering anything and won't leave when asked, you call the police. And the conclusion, of course... "But but but racism!" If you're taking up a table in a restaurant and you aren't ordering anything, you're costing the server and the establishment money and you will be asked to leave if the place is busy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 8:26:22 PM #382:	Bishop9800 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. So the question now is, why were they asked to leave? They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899665811] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused.</quote> So the question now is, why were they asked to leave?</quote> They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 8:30:33 PM #383:	Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!" It makes sense why bystanders would act this way, because they felt the arrest wasn't justified. I'm still trying to find out a proper reason why the Manager would call the police on them to begin with. It's not uncommon occurrence for people to wait on a friend before ordering anything. The manager called the police because he asked them to leave and they refused to do so. At that point, they are trespassing. The only way to get them off the property without resorting to violence is to call the police. And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899665973] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote> If that's the case, I'm trying to figure out why bystanders said they weren't making any trouble - I refuse to believe that when the police show up, and you tell a cop "no" when he tells you to leave, people are just like "he didn't do anything wrong!"</quote> It makes sense why bystanders would act this way, because they felt the arrest wasn't justified. I'm still trying to find out a proper reason why the Manager would call the police on them to begin with. It's not uncommon occurrence for people to wait on a friend before ordering anything.</quote> The manager called the police because he asked them to leave and they refused to do so. At that point, they are trespassing. The only way to get them off the property without resorting to violence is to call the police. And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/14/18 8:31:29 PM #384:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Bishop9800 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. So the question now is, why were they asked to leave? They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only. But remember like Bullet_Wing said, Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour. So what does this say? --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:899666006] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused.</quote> So the question now is, why were they asked to leave?</quote> They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only.</quote> But remember like Bullet_Wing said, <cite>Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour.</cite> So what does this say?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
cjsdowg 04/14/18 8:34:29 PM #385:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point. Would you smile as you go to the back of the bus as well? --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? <cite>cjsdowg posted [p:899666131] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point.</quote> Would you smile as you go to the back of the bus as well?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 8:34:42 PM #386:	Bishop9800 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Bishop9800 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused. So the question now is, why were they asked to leave? They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only. But remember like Bullet_Wing said, Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour. So what does this say? Oh, no doubt they were racially profiled. But I'm saying that I would have left when the cops showed up and asked me to leave. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899666143] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Bishop9800 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>So they were asked to leave by the employees and refused.</quote> So the question now is, why were they asked to leave?</quote> They either used the bathroom or asked to use the bathroom and was told it was for paying customers only.</quote> But remember like Bullet_Wing said, <cite>Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour.</cite> So what does this say?</quote> Oh, no doubt they were racially profiled. But I'm saying that I would have left when the cops showed up and asked me to leave.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 8:35:41 PM #387:	cjsdowg posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point. Would you smile as you go to the back of the bus as well? This isn't 1963 anymore despite how it seems. Am I willing to lose my job because I got arrested for not leaving a coffee shop? --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899666193] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean......as a black man, I'm complying if it gets to that point.</quote> Would you smile as you go to the back of the bus as well?</quote> This isn't 1963 anymore despite how it seems. Am I willing to lose my job because I got arrested for not leaving a coffee shop?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
L0Z 04/14/18 8:42:58 PM #388:	why is an Australian news site reporting on something in philadelphia and lol at bicycle cops making the arrest. what did they get a DUI and lose their license or something? <cite>L0Z posted [p:899666522] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>why is an Australian news site reporting on something in philadelphia and lol at bicycle cops making the arrest. what did they get a DUI and lose their license or something?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 04/14/18 8:45:11 PM #389:	Lol at the if it was white people you guys wouldn't care spiel I few weeks ago there was a thread about how this white dude pretty much got anally sexually assaulted for having weed [he didn't] and there was definitely some outrage --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:899666619] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Lol at the if it was white people you guys wouldn't care spiel I few weeks ago there was a thread about how this white dude pretty much got anally sexually assaulted for having weed [he didn't] and there was definitely some outrage</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KobeSystem 04/14/18 8:46:52 PM #390:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... policy and if you read the story i kinda get more questions because they tried to use the restroom, were told that it was only for paying customers... and then were told to leave? This is such bs Starbucks is one my safe haven bathrooms when I'm in SF --- http://www.last.fm/user/KobeSystem92 \| https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/725087214401671170/02UGgybe_400x400.jpg WIN SEXANGELS GREATKERZ <cite>KobeSystem posted [p:899666686] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>policy and if you read the story i kinda get more questions because they tried to use the restroom, were told that it was only for paying customers... and then were told to leave?</quote> This is such bs Starbucks is one my safe haven bathrooms when I'm in SF</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
---Devin--- 04/14/18 8:50:58 PM #391:	Since when did Starbucks adopt a you have to pay to use our Wi-Fi or bathroom policy? --- She drinks lemonade, I drink Lipton <cite>---Devin--- posted [p:899666868] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Since when did Starbucks adopt a you have to pay to use our Wi-Fi or bathroom policy?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Prestoff 04/14/18 8:57:49 PM #392:	darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:899667176] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 9:00:52 PM #393:	Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899667319] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bishop9800 04/14/18 9:02:25 PM #394:	darkjedilink posted... We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. So it's OK for the manager to be racist? My bad. I forgot who I'm talking to. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 <cite>Bishop9800 posted [p:899667386] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. </quote> So it's OK for the manager to be racist? My bad. I forgot who I'm talking to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Prestoff 04/14/18 9:08:33 PM #396:	darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know. --- It's what all true warriors strive for! <cite>Prestoff posted [p:899667661] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story.</quote> Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 04/14/18 9:09:52 PM #397:	So just for the record Admiral is calling for any person who shows up at a restaurant before their friends to be arrested for loitering. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:899667721] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>So just for the record Admiral is calling for any person who shows up at a restaurant before their friends to be arrested for loitering.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Trayvon 04/14/18 9:10:41 PM #398:	why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around. --- https://i.imgur.com/6yqUWjj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/O4ddk3f.jpg <cite>Trayvon posted [p:899667753] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 9:12:18 PM #399:	Trayvon posted... why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around. Because they were waiting for their friend. Were they gonna buy stuff once they got there? We don't know. But are you gonna buy some passion fruit tea and your friend is 10 minutes away? You'll be done by the time they got there. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899667832] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Trayvon posted...</cite> <quote>why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around.</quote> Because they were waiting for their friend. Were they gonna buy stuff once they got there? We don't know. But are you gonna buy some passion fruit tea and your friend is 10 minutes away? You'll be done by the time they got there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 04/14/18 9:15:07 PM #400:	Kastrada posted... The Admiral posted... However, a restaurant is not the same as a retail store like Starbucks. Did no one else find this an odd statement? Maybe my understanding of business practices is lacking but I find Starbucks has more in common with a restuarant than a retail store like Target or something. >_> Just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:899667972] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote>However, a restaurant is not the same as a retail store like Starbucks.</quote> Did no one else find this an odd statement? Maybe my understanding of business practices is lacking but I find Starbucks has more in common with a restuarant than a retail store like Target or something.</quote> >_> Just so it doesn't get lost in the shuffle.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 9:18:50 PM #401:	---Devin--- posted... Since when did Starbucks adopt a you have to pay to use our Wi-Fi or bathroom policy? Since the moment those guys walked in apparently. Even if the cops did nothing wrong, though sending that many cops to take care of loiterers is strange, it makes no sense why a Starbucks with plenty of open tables decided to ignore their company's own policy and call the cops over two people sitting down. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899668115] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>---Devin--- posted...</cite> <quote>Since when did Starbucks adopt a you have to pay to use our Wi-Fi or bathroom policy?</quote> Since the moment those guys walked in apparently. Even if the cops did nothing wrong, though sending that many cops to take care of loiterers is strange, it makes no sense why a Starbucks with plenty of open tables decided to ignore their company's own policy and call the cops over two people sitting down.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 9:21:42 PM #402:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Trayvon posted... why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around. Because they were waiting for their friend. Were they gonna buy stuff once they got there? We don't know. But are you gonna buy some passion fruit tea and your friend is 10 minutes away? You'll be done by the time they got there. And? What's stopping them from purchasing something else when their friend arrives? Also, their friend was much farther than ten minutes away - there is no way in hell that they waited without ordering long enough for staff to ask them if they were going to order, waited more time without ordering for staff to talk to the manager, waited more time without ordering for the manager to ask them to leave, waited more time without ordering after telling the manager "no" for him to call the police, waited more time without ordering after telling the manager "no" for the police to arrive, and wait still more time without ordering after telling the police officer "no" to be arrested, ALL within a ten-minute period. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899668248] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Trayvon posted...</cite> <quote>why didn't they just buy a coffee to give them an excuse to hang around.</quote> Because they were waiting for their friend. Were they gonna buy stuff once they got there? We don't know. But are you gonna buy some passion fruit tea and your friend is 10 minutes away? You'll be done by the time they got there.</quote> And? What's stopping them from purchasing something else when their friend arrives? Also, their friend was much farther than ten minutes away - there is no way in hell that they waited without ordering long enough for staff to ask them if they were going to order, waited more time without ordering for staff to talk to the manager, waited more time without ordering for the manager to ask them to leave, waited more time without ordering after telling the manager "no" for him to call the police, waited more time without ordering after telling the manager "no" for the police to arrive, and wait still more time without ordering after telling the police officer "no" to be arrested, ALL within a ten-minute period.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FrisbeeDude 04/14/18 9:22:35 PM #403:	Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this? --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:899668286] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 9:23:59 PM #404:	Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know. Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899668335] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story.</quote> Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know.</quote> Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 9:26:45 PM #405:	FrisbeeDude posted... Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this? I used to wonder why they never cared about people hanging out for hours before I learned of their open door policies. Unless this Starbucks and the police are keeping the truth a secret, which wouldn't make sense given these men were released, I have no idea what crawled up the store's ass. I don't want to jump to racism, but we're light on possible explanations here . --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899668449] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this?</quote> I used to wonder why they never cared about people hanging out for hours before I learned of their open door policies. Unless this Starbucks and the police are keeping the truth a secret, which wouldn't make sense given these men were released, I have no idea what crawled up the store's ass. I don't want to jump to racism, but we're light on possible explanations here .</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 9:28:09 PM #406:	darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know. Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified. Not at Starbucks they don't. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899668518] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story.</quote> Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know.</quote> Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified.</quote> Not at Starbucks they don't.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 04/14/18 9:28:19 PM #407:	hockeybub89 posted... FrisbeeDude posted... Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this? I used to wonder why they never cared about people hanging out for hours before I learned of their open door policies. Unless this Starbucks and the police are keeping the truth a secret, which wouldn't make sense given these men were released, I have no idea what crawled up the store's ass. The manager was a dick. He still has the right to remove people who don't order anything. I still want to know why they wouldn't leave when the manager AND THE POLICE told them to. That's just utter stupidity on their part. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:899668526] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>Its textbook different rules for different folks. Has anyone ever heard of a Starbucks or Panera doing this?</quote> I used to wonder why they never cared about people hanging out for hours before I learned of their open door policies. Unless this Starbucks and the police are keeping the truth a secret, which wouldn't make sense given these men were released, I have no idea what crawled up the store's ass.</quote> The manager was a dick. He still has the right to remove people who don't order anything. I still want to know why they wouldn't leave when the manager AND THE POLICE told them to. That's just utter stupidity on their part.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 04/14/18 9:28:20 PM #408:	darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... Prestoff posted... darkjedilink posted... And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up? Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager. We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story. Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know. Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified. Company policy trumps manager and staff policies though. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:899668529] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Prestoff posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>And think about it - how fucking long were they there waiting for their friend if they were there long enough for the staff to inquire with them about ordering something, then the manager telling them to leave, then calling the cops, then waiting for the cops, then the cops talking to them, then the cops arresting them, THEN their friend shows up?</quote> Yeah I'm suspicious as well, there's obviously more to the story but we're not being told what. The police are not in the wrong, they were just doing their job. But it makes sense if the bystanders do believe that the 2 guys did nothing wrong. The only one we really need to question is the manager.</quote> We don't need to question the manager at all - if he asked them to leave, they should have left. End of story.</quote> Uh yes, we do need to question the manager to see if it was justified or not. The managers words arent gospel you know.</quote> Staff has the right to remove anyone not purchasing anything. If they told him they weren't leaving, it was DEFINITELY justified.</quote> Company policy trumps manager and staff policies though.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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