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goldenBoi45 04/14/18 10:22:26 PM #459:	On topic, if I was a self made, successful black stock broker who was being seriously harrassed about not buying shit coffee while I I wait for my friend I would be pissed as well. He's probably waited in a million Starbucks for business acquaintances/friends to show up and not been bothered. Starbucks is that type of place tbh. Then you see other patrons (who are all white) get to use the bathroom and just lounge for an hour without buying anything and aren't even questioned. The fact is that being the only black patrons at this Starbucks put a spotlight on them. Being successful black men who probably have had to put up with alot of shit to get where they are, and knew they were doing nothing wrong, made them angry in this situation. As they should have been. This whole "they should have just complied" nonsense or the "it was a group of black people making a scene" assumptions are the major problem here. You guys on the right rant all day about identity politics but then you outright refuse to call this an injustice simply because the two men are black. Hell, @The_Admiral took the side of the police without even reading the article. Which is evident by his assumption that it was a "group of people". All this Us vs Them nonsense is gonna kill us if we can't at least come together and shame an obvious miscarriage of justice when it happens. --- Getting girls is all about honesty. If you can fake that, you're in! <cite>goldenBoi45 posted [p:899670861] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>On topic, if I was a self made, successful black stock broker who was being seriously harrassed about not buying shit coffee while I I wait for my friend I would be pissed as well. He's probably waited in a million Starbucks for business acquaintances/friends to show up and not been bothered. Starbucks is that type of place tbh. Then you see other patrons (who are all white) get to use the bathroom and just lounge for an hour without buying anything and aren't even questioned. The fact is that being the only black patrons at this Starbucks put a spotlight on them. Being successful black men who probably have had to put up with alot of shit to get where they are, and knew they were doing nothing wrong, made them angry in this situation. As they should have been. This whole "they should have just complied" nonsense or the "it was a group of black people making a scene" assumptions are the major problem here. You guys on the right rant all day about identity politics but then you outright refuse to call this an injustice simply because the two men are black. Hell, @The_Admiral took the side of the police without even reading the article. Which is evident by his assumption that it was a "group of people". All this Us vs Them nonsense is gonna kill us if we can't at least come together and shame an obvious miscarriage of justice when it happens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:22:45 PM #460:	hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Because they were arrested for trespassing I told the cops you robbed me. They better arrest you and you better comply. Robbery is a real crime. Who cares if you actually did it? But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899670873] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Because they were arrested for trespassing</quote> I told the cops you robbed me. They better arrest you and you better comply. Robbery is a real crime. Who cares if you actually did it?</quote> But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 04/14/18 10:23:02 PM #461:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Kastrada posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! I think it's a more overarching issue. It's not specifically about equality in coffee shops (which your response sounds very patronizing) but about profiling by businesses towards minorities. Saying it's just about coffee shop equality is that whole missing the forest for the trees or however it goes. >_> So take the business elsewhere like they did in the 60's. If they ask you to leave because you're black, why would you wanna spend your money there anyways? I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's. --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:899670888] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> We're fighting for equality in coffee shops!</quote> I think it's a more overarching issue. It's not specifically about equality in coffee shops (which your response sounds very patronizing) but about profiling by businesses towards minorities. Saying it's just about coffee shop equality is that whole missing the forest for the trees or however it goes. >_></quote> So take the business elsewhere like they did in the 60's. If they ask you to leave because you're black, why would you wanna spend your money there anyways?</quote> I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:24:02 PM #462:	Kastrada posted... I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's. I was talking more of the bus boycotts --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899670935] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote> I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's.</quote> I was talking more of the bus boycotts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 04/14/18 10:25:40 PM #463:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. I'm not trying AT ALL to equate the two in terms of their severity and consequences but this line of thinking reminded me of this. >_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam#The_Mount_Washington_scam --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:899671011] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> I'm not trying AT ALL to equate the two in terms of their severity and consequences but this line of thinking reminded me of this. >_> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strip_search_phone_call_scam#The_Mount_Washington_scam</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kastrada 04/14/18 10:26:33 PM #464:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Kastrada posted... I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's. I was talking more of the bus boycotts Those started with sit-ins though... --- PoW '09 Topic of the Year Co-Winners (Rada and Texy) FFD <cite>Kastrada posted [p:899671053] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kastrada posted...</cite> <quote> I have no idea what history you were taught but there was a protest style called sit-ins people did in the 60's.</quote> I was talking more of the bus boycotts</quote> Those started with sit-ins though...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 04/14/18 10:26:52 PM #465:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:899671071] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 10:27:01 PM #466:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Because they were arrested for trespassing I told the cops you robbed me. They better arrest you and you better comply. Robbery is a real crime. Who cares if you actually did it? But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. Is the manager a SJW? Just going to make shit up and assert it's true. Can I go to work tomorrow and accuse someone of stealing and tell them to leave. Nevermind that they were just looking at something and I can't just do that. I felt like it and that makes my feelings correct. And I can turn my feelings on and off at a whim. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899671075] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Because they were arrested for trespassing</quote> I told the cops you robbed me. They better arrest you and you better comply. Robbery is a real crime. Who cares if you actually did it?</quote> But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> Is the manager a SJW? Just going to make shit up and assert it's true. Can I go to work tomorrow and accuse someone of stealing and tell them to leave. Nevermind that they were just looking at something and I can't just do that. I felt like it and that makes my feelings correct. And I can turn my feelings on and off at a whim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:28:03 PM #467:	dave_is_slick posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899671128] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 10:28:59 PM #468:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... dave_is_slick posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving. That just reinforces the bad behavior. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899671169] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving.</quote> That just reinforces the bad behavior.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:29:39 PM #469:	hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... dave_is_slick posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving. That just reinforces the bad behavior. And you think the manager is going to change their behavior? --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899671208] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving.</quote> That just reinforces the bad behavior.</quote> And you think the manager is going to change their behavior?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
coolboy11 04/14/18 10:34:32 PM #470:	what a scary ass dude to call the cops on them, I pity how anti blackness and paranoia has ruined many of you non blacks damn minds in any interactions you have with people who happen to be Black. --- Sigs are boring <cite>coolboy11 posted [p:899671449] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>what a scary ass dude to call the cops on them, I pity how anti blackness and paranoia has ruined many of you non blacks damn minds in any interactions you have with people who happen to be Black.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 10:36:31 PM #471:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... dave_is_slick posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving. That just reinforces the bad behavior. And you think the manager is going to change their behavior? I certainly hope so given this media shit storm over an unjust arrest and a blatant slap in the face of company policy. Are their stupid ass thoughts more important than being employed? That is if they don't already get fucked up. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899671542] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving.</quote> That just reinforces the bad behavior.</quote> And you think the manager is going to change their behavior?</quote> I certainly hope so given this media shit storm over an unjust arrest and a blatant slap in the face of company policy. Are their stupid ass thoughts more important than being employed? That is if they don't already get fucked up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:37:41 PM #472:	hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... dave_is_slick posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge. If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong. AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving. That just reinforces the bad behavior. And you think the manager is going to change their behavior? I certainly hope so given this media shit storm over an unjust arrest and a blatant slap in the face of company policy. Are their stupid ass thoughts more important than being employed? That is if they don't already get fucked up. Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899671603] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes, I know Starbucks policy supersedes this or whatever, but the manager was in charge.</quote> If policy supersedes then what the fuck does it matter? The bitch-ass manager is in the wrong.</quote> AND I FUCKING SAID THAT. I'm just saying, when the police get involved...I'm leaving.</quote> That just reinforces the bad behavior.</quote> And you think the manager is going to change their behavior?</quote> I certainly hope so given this media shit storm over an unjust arrest and a blatant slap in the face of company policy. Are their stupid ass thoughts more important than being employed? That is if they don't already get fucked up.</quote> Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 10:44:21 PM #473:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now. But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift. Everyone doesn't need to like each other. My waiter can think I'm a lesser being. Just follow company policy and serve me my dinner. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899671917] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now.</quote> But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift. Everyone doesn't need to like each other. My waiter can think I'm a lesser being. Just follow company policy and serve me my dinner.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 04/14/18 10:45:03 PM #474:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:899671952] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:45:18 PM #475:	hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now. But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift. If they get into another position where they can? I think they'll act on it. Racist people don't change often. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899671963] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now.</quote> But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift.</quote> If they get into another position where they can? I think they'll act on it. Racist people don't change often.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:48:25 PM #476:	_OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899672112] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
008Zulu 04/14/18 10:52:02 PM #477:	_OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? Racists don't care about facts. --- Talent hits a target no one else can hit. Genius hits a target no one else can see. - Arthur Schopenhauer. <cite>008Zulu posted [p:899672273] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> Racists don't care about facts.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 04/14/18 10:52:05 PM #478:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:899672277] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 04/14/18 10:53:25 PM #479:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... hockeybub89 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now. But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift. If they get into another position where they can? I think they'll act on it. Racist people don't change often. You see, I have a tiny bit of faith in even racist people. Mostly because I think self-preservation trumps dogma for most people. There aren't any positions where discrimination is legal and staying out of legal trouble and staying employed are more important than sticking to your guns unless you're completely insane. This is why people work jobs while hating their boss or quietly insulting their clientele. Because the alternative is doing something really stupid. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:899672346] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>Oh...they're definitely fired...lol They'll still be racist though, shit...maybe even more racist now.</quote> But will they act on it? That's the important thing. Disempowering discrimination is more important than changing everyone's mind. The former is an achievable goal. The latter occurs over time as social norms shift.</quote> If they get into another position where they can? I think they'll act on it. Racist people don't change often.</quote> You see, I have a tiny bit of faith in even racist people. Mostly because I think self-preservation trumps dogma for most people. There aren't any positions where discrimination is legal and staying out of legal trouble and staying employed are more important than sticking to your guns unless you're completely insane. This is why people work jobs while hating their boss or quietly insulting their clientele. Because the alternative is doing something really stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:54:39 PM #480:	_OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899672408] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it</quote> But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
145 04/14/18 10:57:37 PM #481:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth. police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record. --- DSP would he a sexy MFer if he worked on his looks -DeadlyNinjaBees- <cite>145 posted [p:899672567] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it</quote> But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth.</quote> police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 10:59:10 PM #482:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... cjsdowg posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899672631] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? </quote> You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing.</quote> lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops!</quote> We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 10:59:33 PM #483:	145 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth. police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record. They were already released with no charges pressed. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899672651] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>145 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it</quote> But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth.</quote> police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record.</quote> They were already released with no charges pressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RadioExpress 04/14/18 11:00:10 PM #484:	Pathetic. <cite>RadioExpress posted [p:899672678] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 11:00:24 PM #485:	A_Good_Boy posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... cjsdowg posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well. As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid. --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899672688] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? </quote> You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing.</quote> lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops!</quote> We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well.</quote> As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 11:00:48 PM #486:	Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899672704] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
145 04/14/18 11:00:51 PM #487:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... 145 posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... _OujiDoza_ posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused? It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative? https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth. police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record. They were already released with no charges pressed. Link? most arrest almost/always result in them being booked an cited for their first court date. Otherwise, if they were released, then it was just a detainment and not an arrest. AN arrest requires probable cause --- DSP would he a sexy MFer if he worked on his looks -DeadlyNinjaBees- <cite>145 posted [p:899672709] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>145 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>_OujiDoza_ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote>But they were actually trespassing if the manager told them to leave and they refused?</quote> It's been said already that they weren't asked to leave by the manager and you're still trying to peddle that shit narrative?</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> Well now I stand corrected, gosh dang it</quote> But like i said, Joy Behar or whatever said they were never asked to leave. It all depends on whose telling the truth.</quote> police testimony staff testimony Manager's testimony if police had body cam, then their misdemeanor trespass arrest should stick and they will have a permanent misdemeanor criminal record.</quote> They were already released with no charges pressed.</quote> Link? most arrest almost/always result in them being booked an cited for their first court date. Otherwise, if they were released, then it was just a detainment and not an arrest. AN arrest requires probable cause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
145 04/14/18 11:02:15 PM #488:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. --- DSP would he a sexy MFer if he worked on his looks -DeadlyNinjaBees- <cite>145 posted [p:899672769] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 04/14/18 11:03:01 PM #489:	I'm, personally, not inclined to believe the police chief that also said the men were arrested "without incident". --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:899672804] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>I'm, personally, not inclined to believe the police chief that also said the men were arrested "without incident".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 11:03:46 PM #490:	145 posted... YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says. yeah but that's the cops someone tweeted that a witness said they manager did not ask them to leave first before calling the cops FrisbeeDude posted... https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/985296000477810688?s=19 This is bad --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899672834] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>145 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote>Wait So were they or were they not asked to leave BEFORE the cops came Witness says no Manager says yes</quote> https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/14/us/philadelphia-police-starbucks-arrests/index.html The employees told officers the two men wanted to use the restroom but were told the facilities are only for paying customers. The Starbucks employees then asked the men to leave, but they refused, Ross says. Officers responded and asked the men three times to "politely to leave the location because they were being asked to leave by employees because they were trespassing." When the men again refused to leave, they were arrested "without incident," Ross says.</quote> yeah but that's the cops someone tweeted that a witness said they manager did not ask them to leave first before calling the cops <cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/985296000477810688?s=19 This is bad</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 11:03:55 PM #491:	1NfamousACE_2 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... cjsdowg posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well. As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid. Just take it until it becomes systematic? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899672842] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? </quote> You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. </quote> lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! </quote> We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well.</quote> As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid.</quote> Just take it until it becomes systematic? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
145 04/14/18 11:05:00 PM #492:	so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial? --- DSP would he a sexy MFer if he worked on his looks -DeadlyNinjaBees- <cite>145 posted [p:899672895] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YOUHAVENOHOPE 04/14/18 11:06:28 PM #493:	145 posted... so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial? i don't think you are understanding i have no question the police asked them to leave I'M ASKING IF THE MANAGER ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO LEAVE BEFORE HE CALLED THE COPS also from the same link from above: The men were eventually released from police custody, and the district attorney's office declined to press charges due to a "lack of evidence that a crime was committed." Starbucks has since released a statement apologizing to the two men, adding that they are "disappointed this led to an arrest" and pledging to review their policies "to ensure these types of situations never happen in any of our stores." as in no jury has to get involved nobody could prove that they were trespassing --- http://i.imgur.com/kpXTakw.gif http://i.imgur.com/Pto3yPa.jpg http://media.giphy.com/media/NBVBnHv8bV13q/giphy.gif <cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted [p:899672963] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>145 posted...</cite> <quote>so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial?</quote> i don't think you are understanding i have no question the police asked them to leave I'M ASKING IF THE MANAGER ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO LEAVE BEFORE HE CALLED THE COPS also from the same link from above: <quote>The men were eventually released from police custody, and the district attorney's office declined to press charges due to a "lack of evidence that a crime was committed." Starbucks has since released a statement apologizing to the two men, adding that they are "disappointed this led to an arrest" and pledging to review their policies "to ensure these types of situations never happen in any of our stores."</quote> as in no jury has to get involved nobody could prove that they were trespassing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
145 04/14/18 11:08:36 PM #494:	YOUHAVENOHOPE posted... 145 posted... so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial? i don't think you are understanding i have no question the police asked them to leave I'M ASKING IF THE MANAGER ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO LEAVE BEFORE HE CALLED THE COPS doesn't matter, if cops were called and the manager doesn't want them there, and they still refused then that's still criminal trespass. If what "lauren" said was true, that those black guys weren't warned prior to the manager calling the cops, then those black dudes have a huge lawsuit pending against starbucks. But when it comes to their criminal case, it's an open and shut case. --- DSP would he a sexy MFer if he worked on his looks -DeadlyNinjaBees- <cite>145 posted [p:899673073] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...</cite> <quote><cite>145 posted...</cite> <quote>so staff's word and a cop's word(probably with body cam) against a customer who doesn't have a reliable angle or proper hearing angle. who will the jury go for of this goes to trial?</quote> i don't think you are understanding i have no question the police asked them to leave I'M ASKING IF THE MANAGER ACTUALLY ASKED THEM TO LEAVE BEFORE HE CALLED THE COPS</quote> doesn't matter, if cops were called and the manager doesn't want them there, and they still refused then that's still criminal trespass. If what "lauren" said was true, that those black guys weren't warned prior to the manager calling the cops, then those black dudes have a huge lawsuit pending against starbucks. But when it comes to their criminal case, it's an open and shut case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
bob742omb 04/14/18 11:08:49 PM #495:	is there going to be a part 2 <cite>bob742omb posted [p:899673082] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>is there going to be a part 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
1NfamousACE_2 04/14/18 11:08:53 PM #496:	A_Good_Boy posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... A_Good_Boy posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... cjsdowg posted... 1NfamousACE_2 posted... Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well. As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid. Just take it until it becomes systematic? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. I'm not saying take it. What I'm saying is that I would have left when the cops asked --- New signature needed, acquire within from management <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted [p:899673085] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>cjsdowg posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>1NfamousACE_2 posted...</cite> <quote> Okay, we get that. The cops never should have been called. But once they get involved, then just leave. I mean honestly, what did they think would happen when they refused the cops directions? </quote> You stated to me that it is not 1963, yet you seem to want people to act like it is. If I have not done anything wrong I will not bow down. And it is not about Pride, it is about caring about the next generation. If they beat me and jail me for doing nothing wrong people will see and just maybe , my blasian kids will not have to deal with the same thing. </quote> lol...okay. We're fighting for equality in coffee shops! </quote> We used to fight for it at lunch counters and busses as well.</quote> As i said, systematic racism isn't the same as this one person being stupid.</quote> Just take it until it becomes systematic? I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.</quote> I'm not saying take it. What I'm saying is that I would have left when the cops asked</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 04/14/18 11:10:56 PM #498:	Fuck da police. --- "I'm an atheist too but still believe in hell. That's where you're headed pal." - Mr_Karate_II <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:899673174] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Fuck da police.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 04/14/18 11:11:07 PM #500:	Racist fucks btfo --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:899673182] in Black peop... [t:76516213]...</cite> <quote>Racist fucks btfo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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