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FL81
02/27/18 5:38:25 PM
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kaonashi1
02/27/18 9:15:32 PM
#143:


azuarc posted...
I will, however, make a humble request that everyone sticks to 5 nominations on the first day that we open things up so everyone has a chance to get their favorite choices in the first ~200 or so nominations even if they aren't here the second the thread goes up.

Are you planning to enforce this? If not, this doesn't make sense (assuming the premise that a large number of people listen to tracks in posted sequence, of which I'm not really convinced either)-- people who take you up on the suggestion (and get 5 nominations early on in the topic) end up worse off than the people who ignore it (and get 20).
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KCF0107
02/27/18 9:29:52 PM
#144:


I'm not sure if it is easily enforceable due to the parser
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Team Rocket Elite
02/27/18 9:48:20 PM
#145:


I believe the script keeps track of how many nominations each person makes. It will probably accept nominations beyond the first five but a human can quickly look over the list at the end of Day 1 and it will be obvious who nominated more than 5 songs.

There are ways to cheat the system like denominating a bunch of songs but once again that will stick out against human review.
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dowolf
02/27/18 11:11:19 PM
#146:


Honestly, given that we're not a super-huge community, an honor-system approach (along with gentle pokes for people who simply don't know about it) feels like it'll be fine.
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MasaomiHouzuki
02/28/18 4:47:10 AM
#147:


I can make a temp modification to the script to auto reject noms that go over 5 for the first day.
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azuarc
02/28/18 12:06:35 PM
#148:


Actually, now that you mention it, I could do that myself. Changing a constant isn't a big deal.

Although, truthfully, I'm not intensely worried. Unless people here turn out to all be dicks, honor system should be fine. I mean, this is like being in a conversation and just having the grace to let everyone have a chance to speak. If someone fails to follow this "rule", what am I going to do to punish them? Refuse to accept their songs for the rest of the nomination period? The damage is done at that point.
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azuarc
02/28/18 6:22:22 PM
#149:


So if I'm smart, this might go up right before bed. If I'm not smart, it'll be when I get up in the morning.
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pyresword
02/28/18 10:42:37 PM
#150:


All right well I have my first set of 5 noms picked out at least. Guess now it's time for the inevitable annual disappointment when nobody other than me likes these songs.
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JONALEON1
02/28/18 10:45:13 PM
#151:


azuarc posted...
So if I'm smart, this might go up right before bed. If I'm not smart, it'll be when I get up in the morning.


Come on, smart azuarc.
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xp1337
02/28/18 10:52:26 PM
#152:


we want the damn bracket
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Mac Arrowny
02/28/18 10:54:33 PM
#153:


I'm cool with waiting a while
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Team Rocket Elite
02/28/18 10:56:25 PM
#154:


I'm okay with waiting until nominations close for the bracket to go up. >_>
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NFUN
02/28/18 10:56:51 PM
#155:


nah I trust az to make a good bracket

go for it
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Team Rocket Elite
02/28/18 10:59:30 PM
#156:


I am willing to compromise and have the bracket made just after my nominations have been submitted.
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Janus5k
02/28/18 11:01:14 PM
#157:


that would be one way to get RFTM a retirement

okay probably still not
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xp1337
02/28/18 11:20:58 PM
#158:


Super late comment, but having just tried to work out what 5 songs I'd want to pick for an opening day, I found it had what I think is the opposite of the intended effect. I was scared away from wanting to pick some of the newer songs I'm most interested in because I felt like they had a high flop potential.

so it turned into falcom central

free nominations

>_>
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tazzyboyishere
02/28/18 11:31:46 PM
#159:


I hope it goes up tomorrow since I'm about to sleep :/
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azuarc
02/28/18 11:54:44 PM
#160:


xp1337 posted...
Super late comment, but having just tried to work out what 5 songs I'd want to pick for an opening day, I found it had what I think is the opposite of the intended effect. I was scared away from wanting to pick some of the newer songs I'm most interested in because I felt like they had a high flop potential.

so it turned into falcom central

you can un-nom things that go unsupported...but at least you have some level of comfort in knowing they got noticed.
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xp1337
02/28/18 11:56:33 PM
#161:


that's not much comfort if the ones noticed flopped and then no one notices the later ones which may have gained support
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azuarc
03/01/18 12:01:52 AM
#162:


xp1337 posted...
that's not much comfort if the ones noticed flopped and then no one notices the later ones which may have gained support

Speaking of unnoticed and flopping, I was toying with the notion of rigging up a side bracket out of old Best OST contestants. I ended up listening through a bunch of your stuff and went, huh, some of this isn't so bad. I thought I remembered criticizing a lot of these songs.
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xp1337
03/01/18 12:02:47 AM
#163:


azuarc posted...
xp1337 posted...
that's not much comfort if the ones noticed flopped and then no one notices the later ones which may have gained support

Speaking of unnoticed and flopping, I was toying with the notion of rigging up a side bracket out of old Best OST contestants. I ended up listening through a bunch of your stuff and went, huh, some of this isn't so bad. I thought I remembered criticizing a lot of these songs.

i will go down as an unappreciated genius posthumously
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azuarc
03/01/18 1:04:09 AM
#164:


test post...

Hello and welcome to Video Game Music Contest, year 12.

WHAT'S NEW THIS YEAR

Absolutely nothing. We're doing things exactly as we did last year, which is pretty much identical to the way ed and lefty ran the contest in year's past, other than with a bracket size of 128. (In other words, no two-phase nominations.)

The only exception, if you want to call it that, is that I am requesting that anyone nominating in the first 24 hours of the topic limit themselves to using just 5 of their nominations so everyone has a chance to get some of their favorite choices listed near the front.

If you're new, scroll down to the next post for complete rules.

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IMPORTANT LINKS

This year's spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lzzbpDP2whgvOTN2XHETfWg79IyPs01jdwIQu_L2C7k
Spreadsheet with song histories and retired list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1K1XdLWiUKB2kX99qYBgnRbLU_sCz4dvZSByKKJHCT6o

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GENERAL INFO

* 20 nominations per person
* 5 doubles
* Nominations are open now, thru Monday, March 12 (inclusive).

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NOMINATION FORMATTING

Please list your supports using the format "+ Game | Song | link"

+ Dungeon Fighter Online | Wind of You |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY [This is a nomination]
++ Dungeon Fighter Online | Wind of You |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY [This is a double]
- Dungeon Fighter Online | Wind of You |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY [This is unsupporting a nomination]
-- Dungeon Fighter Online | Wind of You |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBmepA9mKZY [This is unsupporting a double]

Note that our nominations are counted automatically by a python script. Please use the correct formatting. The separator between the game, song, and youtube link is the "pipe" operator, usually located above the front-slash on most keyboards.

If you are doubling (or undoubling) a nomination, it is not necessary to completely clear it and then re-add it. The script treats nominations as 1 vote and doubles as 2. Just do a single plus or single minus to switch.

If a song has already been nominated, it is not necessary to include a link, but please try to match their naming conventions (unless they're wrong).
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azuarc
03/01/18 1:04:56 AM
#165:


looks like it's time to de-embed videos...
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xp1337
03/01/18 1:06:32 AM
#166:


Maybe bold the 5 noms on the first day part?
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NFUN
03/01/18 1:10:07 AM
#167:


...you know, I was gonna write a joke code to pretend to fuck with the bot, but the best way to evaluate understanding is to test competence... I'm really curious about how the bot deals with the data it receives now.
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azuarc
03/01/18 1:28:32 AM
#168:


WHAT IS VIDEO GAME MUSIC CONTEST?

Video game music contest (VGMC) is an annual contest run on Board 8 where the users select their favorite pieces of video game music to be entered into a tournament bracket. We then vote to decide which song advances.

This is year 12. In order to ensure the same songs don't win every year, the top finishers each year are permanently retired from competition.

As of this moment, nominations for entries are now open.

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HOW TO NOMINATE

Eligibility requirements for songs:
* They must be from a video game.
* They must be originally from a video game. (No Rock Band tracks.)
* They must be from the game itself. No remixes, arrangements, or bonus tracks from OSTs. If multiple versions of a song exist, make sure the version you are nominating is from the game.
* They must not be retired. Please see here for a list of retired tracks: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Er_iw4jHiCCF4ntFD8LSS6OcNMsFKw84hBhpTTEtkMM
* You may nominate up to 20 total songs.
* You may nominate at most 2 songs from a single game.
* You may nominate at most 5 songs from a single series.
* You may not nominate multiple versions of the same song.
* You may double-vote for any 5 of your songs.

Please use the formatting listed in the previous post. YouTube links are strongly preferred.

If you're reading this on Thursday, March 1st, please also keep yourself in check a little and give everyone a chance to post the nominations they are most excited about.

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OKAY, I NOMINATED. NOW WHAT?

Check the spreadsheet to see how your songs are doing. The top 128 vote-getters will be entered into the bracket. Please note that it is a time-honored tradition to drop support from songs that clearly won't get in order to push other songs that could. It's also good form to listen to as many of the nominations from others as you can, in case you find anything you like and would like to help find its way into the bracket.

Of course, you don't have to use all your nominatinos right away. Nominations are going to be open for 12 days.

And feel free to discuss your choices in the thread, with the following caveat: Do not rally, trade nominations, or beg for people to listen to your nominations. And above all else, don't be a jerk.

Thank you for participating, and I hope you enjoy!

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PREVIOUS YEAR'S BRACKETS

Year 1: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=229929
Year 2: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=276389
Year 3: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=327002
Year 4: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=364957
Year 5: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=397610
Year 6: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tlist.cfm?tid=426428
Year 7: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=444450
Year 8: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=454368
Year 9: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=459544
Year 10: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=463073
Year 11: http://www.bracketmaker.com/tmenu.cfm?tid=466312
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NFUN
03/01/18 1:29:56 AM
#169:


azuarc posted...
As of this moment, nominations for entries are now open.

+ The Legend of Heroes: Trails in the Sky | Sophisticated Fight |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um5EbReY7rA

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Team Rocket Elite
03/01/18 1:30:42 AM
#170:


+ Touhou 8: Imperishable Night | Reach for the Moon, Immortal Smoke |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETTk83qis0w

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azuarc
03/01/18 1:34:05 AM
#171:


no, not here, sorry

This is test posting.

(I think you know this, but I should be perfectly clear. New topic will go up as soon as I feel that this is reasonable.)
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NFUN
03/01/18 1:34:47 AM
#172:


++ Jet Set Radio Future | Birthday Cake |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp5gPf7mhI

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Janus5k
03/01/18 1:35:32 AM
#173:


+ Undertale | Dogsong |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHhWBcGhltc

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azuarc
03/01/18 1:38:51 AM
#174:


+++ Crazy Bus | Title |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sC0cvwnG0Ik


So, everything look cool?
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Team Rocket Elite
03/01/18 1:43:30 AM
#175:


Looks good to me.
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KCF0107
03/01/18 1:45:52 AM
#176:


Everything looks great, except for someone test posting Touhou.
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azuarc
03/01/18 1:52:24 AM
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