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Bloodychess 02/02/18 1:47:00 PM #151: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
this changes absolutely nothing. people that already loved trump think this will be the destruction of the fbi cia & the dems. trump haters will keep calling it a nothingburger More like 200 --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution998 02/02/18 1:47:01 PM #152: |
A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt?
Color me surprised. You could shove the facts in their face and theyll deny it every time. No sense in even arguing about this --- The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poli' meaning many, and the word 'ticks' meaning blood sucking parasites. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 1:47:24 PM #153: |
CEs_EFG posted...
UrCa1988 posted... He wasn't paid to give the information to the FBI, he was paid to do his job to begin with. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 02/02/18 1:47:49 PM #154: |
Caution998 posted...
A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt? there's a "Never Trumper" party? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution998 02/02/18 1:48:10 PM #155: |
mario2000 posted...
Caution998 posted...A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt? Its called the Democratic Party, brah --- The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poli' meaning many, and the word 'ticks' meaning blood sucking parasites. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 1:48:33 PM #156: |
_____Cait posted...
Can someone explain this , Im lost. basically an FBI agent got paid 120,000 to try to get info on Trump and Russia and when he couldn't find anything he bullshitted it to start spying on Trump's campaign --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 1:49:45 PM #157: |
s0nicfan posted...
Because if the FBI used false information funded by campaign money (from either side) and excluded the source of that information in attempting to get undue access to a warrant... who exactly funded the research is irrelevant. No they didn't. You keep saying the dossier is false based on nothing at all. You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal. Fucking ridiculous --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 02/02/18 1:50:15 PM #158: |
Fake dossier.
Fake news story. Just to SPY on American citizens!!! Yeah!!! Time to remedy this situation immediately and support President Trump so this shit doesn't happen again. The dems have delayed this from American people knowing the truth. But the cats out now. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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mario2000 02/02/18 1:50:25 PM #159: |
Caution998 posted...
mario2000 posted...Caution998 posted...A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt? you do realize that it's possible to be anti-trump and not be a democrat, right? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_____Cait 02/02/18 1:50:30 PM #160: |
CEs_EFG posted...
_____Cait posted...Can someone explain this , Im lost. Welp --- ORAS secret base: http://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bluebomber182 02/02/18 1:50:47 PM #161: |
never trumpers is a term for republicans against trump. i should know im 1 of em @Caution999
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 1:51:31 PM #162: |
UrCa1988 posted...
He wasn't paid to give the information to the FBI, he was paid to do his job to begin with. that's bullshit and you know it "let me pay this FBI informant to gather info and expect him to not give it to the FBI!" and even then a lot of the Info he got was directly Ohr and even if he wasn't wrong why did he in fact conceal where he got that info from anyway? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 02/02/18 1:51:40 PM #163: |
s0nicfan posted...
LordRazziel posted...s0nicfan posted...LordRazziel posted...HypnoCoosh posted...The memo speaks for itself. Okay. I accept that. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 02/02/18 1:52:05 PM #164: |
Dems think they are above the law. This is shameful.
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Caution998 02/02/18 1:52:06 PM #165: |
Point is Ive never seen anyone defect sides from an argument on this board.
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 1:52:08 PM #166: |
mario2000 posted...
Caution998 posted...mario2000 posted...Caution998 posted...A bunch of never Trumpers keeping themselves closed to the possibility their party is corrupt? Not according to his sycophants. Lifetime Republicans who have voted on party lines for years, as well as people promoted by Trump himself into their positions, are "secret Democrats out to get him!" --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Balrog0 02/02/18 1:52:15 PM #167: |
I have a serious question, why would anyone pay someone almost 200k to make something up? The gap in perception for this memo is amazing (though not surprising) since it is totally based on the idea that using information that was paid for by Trump's political opponents means the information is compromised. Oppo research has been used to uncover true things in the past, and Steele specifically has a track record of reliable sourcing (from what I have read)
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mario2000 02/02/18 1:52:37 PM #168: |
Bluebomber182 posted...
never trumpers is a term for republicans against trump. i should know im 1 of em @Caution999 >expecting redhats to at least use their goofy little insults consistently maybe @Caution998 should've tried cuck or soyboy instead --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 1:52:43 PM #169: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
No they didn't. You keep saying the dossier is false based on nothing at all. You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal. it's pretty crazy you're assuming the dossier is legit just because "the lengths that FISA warrant's go" when there is a shit ton of evidence that a lot of it was from unreliable sources --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vertania 02/02/18 1:53:43 PM #170: |
@The_Great_Muta_22 posted...
You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal. It really doesn't matter if it's the only thing that lead to the warrant because: ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 1:54:50 PM #171: |
Vertania posted...
he ignored that last time you posted it, i'm pretty sure he has no argument --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 1:55:47 PM #173: |
CEs_EFG posted...
that's bullshit and you know it Steele was MI6, I don't know why you keep bringing up the FBI, and intelligence agents are always going to have a large network of sources to pull from. We don't know what information came from which source without Steele saying where it came from, and it's something the FBI is probably aware of already considering they received his information. If 50% of what Steele said was true, do you think we should act on that 50% or just throw the whole thing away because the rest is unverified? CEs_EFG posted... and even if he wasn't wrong why did he in fact conceal where he got that info from anyway? Because even journalists protect their sources? Because Russia is probably not the type of regime you want your identity made public to if you're giving information to an MI6 agent? --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 1:55:54 PM #174: |
CEs_EFG posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...No they didn't. You keep saying the dossier is false based on nothing at all. You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal. That's not what I said at all. The dossier has had some pieces of information verified. It's also shown some pieces of information wrong. And it has other things that are unverified. I'm saying the FISA warrant renewal, which was signed off on FOUR separate times by different judges, isn't illegitimate because information from the dossier was included, as FISA warrants tend to have dozens of pieces of information used to get them accepted. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 1:56:55 PM #175: |
shockthemonkey posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...CEs_EFG posted...UrCa1988 posted...We literally already know this. Neither is the fact that a republican commissioned the dossier initially before the DNC continued paying for it. This is called opposition research, and every campaign does it no that's pretty stupid, since Trump/Russia is the definition of a nothing burger maybe if Trump actually got prosecuted that'd be different --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 02/02/18 1:57:55 PM #176: |
This is all a cluster fuck. They used incomplete information to get a warrant, to prove this we will release our own incomplete information.
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 1:59:17 PM #177: |
Vertania posted...
@The_Great_Muta_22 posted...You're ignoring the lengths that FISA warrants go and assuming that this memo is saying the only things that granted the warrant renewal. Explain to me why Page had a FISA warrant issued against him since 2013 if the dossier was the only reason why. Frankly, until I see McCabe's testimony to the House Committee I don't trust Nunes at all. Hell, I'll at least wait to hear McCabe's own statement on that before determining that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 02/02/18 2:00:06 PM #179: |
LordRazziel posted...
This is all a cluster fuck. They used lies to get a warrant, to prove this we will release our own memo derived from 1000 pages of information. FTFY --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 02/02/18 2:00:40 PM #180: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
lilORANG posted...LOL It also alleges that, without the dossier, they wouldn't have gone to the FISA court at all. This suggests that the only reason the FBI attempted to wiretap Clinton's political rival was they got info from Clinton. The FBI hid this info from the judge, knowing it was likely they wouldn't have gotten the warrant. That is illegal. Like, it's no Watergate, but there's no defending this. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:01:01 PM #182: |
Also matters that Page being under investigation since 2013 has led to 3 Russian spies being charged, which is conveniently left out of this.
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LordRazziel 02/02/18 2:01:52 PM #183: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
LordRazziel posted...This is all a cluster fuck. They used lies to get a warrant, to prove this we will release our own memo derived from 1000 pages of information. --- http://i.imgur.com/8pzUM.gif http://i.imgur.com/Oh1iujg.gif The only bad part about flying is having to come back down to the f***in' world ~Rat ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 2:01:53 PM #184: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Explain to me why Page had a FISA warrant issued against him since 2013 if the dossier was the only reason why. Frankly, until I see McCabe's testimony to the House Committee I don't trust Nunes at all. Hell, I'll at least wait to hear McCabe's own statement on that before determining that. Frankly you went from "this is a nothing burger" to "i don't trust Nunes at all" so I'm starting to question your bias since you clearly didn't read the memo in the beginning --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KazumaKiryu 02/02/18 2:02:04 PM #185: |
I can't wait for them all to be fired and go to jail, including fucking Mueller.
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Giant_Aspirin 02/02/18 2:02:28 PM #186: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Time to remedy this situation immediately and support President Trump so this shit doesn't happen again. you're literally advocating for having a leader who is immune from investigation. coming out of a party that supposedly distrusts the government is just mind blowing. how can you be fearful of a tyrannical government while simultaneously advocating for a leader immune to investigation? imagine, just for a second, if Democrats tried to block inquiries into possible illegal activity of their president. imagine how outraged you would be and how you'd be screaming "DICTATORSHIP" and "CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS". and the fact that you refuse to elaborate on why you think any of these things and instead just keep screaming "NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING" shows just how nervous about this you are. --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bloodychess 02/02/18 2:02:29 PM #187: |
Let's investigate the shenanigans they did to my boy Bernie next
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:03:06 PM #188: |
James Comey --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 02/02/18 2:03:13 PM #189: |
I'll be taking apologies at itoldyouso@****off.com
This has been common knowledge for a year if you actually follow alternative sources of news. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 02/02/18 2:04:50 PM #190: |
Balrog0 posted...
I have a serious question, why would anyone pay someone almost 200k to make something up? The gap in perception for this memo is amazing (though not surprising) since it is totally based on the idea that using information that was paid for by Trump's political opponents means the information is compromised. Oppo research has been used to uncover true things in the past, and Steele specifically has a track record of reliable sourcing (from what I have read) Regardless of track record, the Trump dossier is fake: https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulroderickgregory/2017/01/13/the-trump-dossier-is-false-news-and-heres-why/ --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:05:09 PM #191: |
CEs_EFG posted...
Frankly you went from "this is a nothing burger" to "i don't trust Nunes at all" And you've clearly ignored multiple points I've made this entire time. Since the start of this bullshit I've said I didn't trust Nunes at all and I wanted to full transcript of the testimonies, and now I'd like to read the actual FISA warrant for Page based on this memo. But this basically IS nothing, and if Trump uses this to fire Rosenstein it's going to blow back on him, hard. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 02/02/18 2:05:40 PM #192: |
Doom_Art posted...
lilORANG posted...LOL I thought the FBI director said it was inaccurate and misleading. If it is just info we already known, how could that statement be possible? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 02/02/18 2:05:58 PM #193: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
James Comey Haha, I love James' damage control. He and the media have spent the week trying to soften the blow of a devastating document. This is what the fake news does: priming the drones to see their narrative as true and the memo as fake. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 02/02/18 2:06:19 PM #194: |
hortanz posted...
I want the @DifferentialEquation take I agree with TC. He's pretty much always right on the money when it comes it to political discussions. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Giant_Aspirin 02/02/18 2:07:04 PM #195: |
tommybel89 posted...
This is what the fake news does: priming the drones to see their narrative as true and the memo as fake. "this is what Trump does: priming the drones to see his narrative as true and reality as fake" --- Playing: Dark Souls III (PC) (~);} - Get out the pans, don't just stand there dreamin' - {;(~) ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CEs_EFG 02/02/18 2:07:49 PM #197: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
And you've clearly ignored multiple points I've made this entire time. Since the start of this bulls*** I've said I didn't trust Nunes at all and I wanted to full transcript of the testimonies, and now I'd like to read the actual FISA warrant for Page based on this memo. But this basically IS nothing, and if Trump uses this to fire Rosenstein it's going to blow back on him, hard. you went from just shit posting "this is a nothing burger" to "i need more details!" it's pretty damn sad imo at least don't try to show your bias before you get blasted from not even reading the memo --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution998 02/02/18 2:08:00 PM #198: |
We are at an impass.
Theres honestly no sense in even talking politics on here because nobody has an open mind: --- The word 'politics' is derived from the word 'poli' meaning many, and the word 'ticks' meaning blood sucking parasites. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 2:08:19 PM #199: |
Even conservative pundits are like this isnt much
Only the most extreme people and your Hypnos/AnimeNames of the world are going crazy over it. Telling. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:08:23 PM #200: |
KazumaKiryu posted...
I can't wait for them all to be fired and go to jail, including fucking Mueller. Lmao why would Mueller be going to jail? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:08:36 PM #201: |
Caution998 posted...
We are at an impass. Pot meet kettle. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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