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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:42:23 PM #252: |
Funbazooka posted...
Remember when the Dems said Trump was crazy and outrageous for saying he was being spied on? He wasn't spied on and this doesn't reveal that "Trump Tower was BUGGED BY OBAMA!" as he alleged. You didn't read the memo. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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davyheinz 02/02/18 2:42:48 PM #253: |
Trump trolls are freaking the fuck out in here still?
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Funbazooka 02/02/18 2:43:11 PM #254: |
The memo also claims that, before and after Steele was terminated as a source, he kept in touch with the DOJ through then-Associate Deputy Attorney General Bruce Ohr. Ohr, who worked closely with Yates then Rosenstein, eventually spoke with the FBI about his communications with Steele. In September 2016, Steele apparently told Ohr he was "'desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president,'" according to the memo. The memo also notes Ohr's wife worked for Fusion GPS to help with the opposition research against Trump, something the memo claims was not disclosed.
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Doom_Art 02/02/18 2:43:52 PM #255: |
tommybel89 posted...
Assange --- Not removing this until Mega Man 64 is released on the Wii Virtual Console. Started on: 12/1/2009 http://i.imgur.com/mPvcy.png ... Copied to Clipboard!
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KazumaKiryu 02/02/18 2:44:48 PM #256: |
tommybel89 posted...
Assange posted this the other day. All of it is verifiable if you dig around. That's why you should question almost everything you see from the big outlets and the elite magazines. Wow --- Just your bad luck... to run into me. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 02/02/18 2:45:10 PM #257: |
Just lol if you think that American intelligence agencies were not looking into the campaign party members and actions of anyone in other parties running for election. This seems to be standard and beyond that a potentially helpful thing to look into.
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 2:47:07 PM #258: |
Doctor Foxx posted...
Just lol if you think that American intelligence agencies were not looking into the campaign party members and actions of anyone in other parties running for election. This seems to be standard and beyond that a potentially helpful thing to look into. No, I dont believe that previous administrations were doing that. Its a direct and blatant violation of the 4th Amendment. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:47:53 PM #259: |
Nomadic View posted...
You seriously think thats a good argument? The dossier isn't completely false, nor do you have any proof of it being so. Again, the book Clinton Cash has been used in these situations, which is also full of inaccuracies. I'm not pretending to know what was entirely presented to the FISC for the warrant, but the implication in this that these were the only things used when the application process is 50-60 pages, and which multiple people have said that this memo isn't the entirety of the information, it's irresponsible to assume these were the only things used. And when Carter Page has had these issues since 2013 and four different directors from both political parties have signed off on it, I expect they had far more information than Nunes presented. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Joeydollaz 02/02/18 2:49:49 PM #260: |
Guys....HOMELAND returns this month....
this is fake news by mr fake news --- YEAR OF 4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 02/02/18 2:50:56 PM #261: |
Nomadic View posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...Just lol if you think that American intelligence agencies were not looking into the campaign party members and actions of anyone in other parties running for election. This seems to be standard and beyond that a potentially helpful thing to look into. Obama is Trumps Trump card. This is a lot bigger than this memo. The memo is just a taste. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/02/18 2:51:01 PM #262: |
Funbazooka posted...
In September 2016, Steele apparently told Ohr he was "'desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president,'" according to the memo. See, the assumption on the GOP end has been that "Steele has personal opposition to Trump" ------> "he comes up with bullshit intel meant to undermine him" But what if it's the opposite? What if Steele's opposition to Trump is an effect, not a cause, of the intel he found on Trump? --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 2:51:45 PM #263: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Nomadic View posted...You seriously think thats a good argument? Youre completely dodging the question, just as I said you would. I dont care if they used other material. They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? After you deflect again Ill ask this question again. Save us both the time and just say that you will not answer that question. If it makes you feel any better Ill answer it first. No, law enforcement should not use material, even in part, that they know is false when attempting to secure a warrant. Your turn. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:52:09 PM #264: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Obama is Trumps Trump card. You guys stated this memo was going to literally bring down the entire party and IC as well as put over a dozen people in jail. Don't back down now --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 2:53:49 PM #265: |
Im down for exploring cases of overreach and evaluating when it is and is not appropriate to investigate.
All that being said, the investigation in question has turned up several charges of conspiracy against the United States, and it is ludicrous to bury that lede no matter how you slice this memo. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 02/02/18 2:54:14 PM #266: |
darkjedilink posted...
UrCa1988 posted...darkphoenix181 posted...UrCa1988 posted...It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts." when you put it that way... --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 2:57:29 PM #267: |
Nomadic View posted...
They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? Show me where the FBI has come out and said the dossier was completely false. Because Comey openly testified under oath differently. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 02/02/18 2:57:47 PM #268: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Nomadic View posted...Doctor Foxx posted...Just lol if you think that American intelligence agencies were not looking into the campaign party members and actions of anyone in other parties running for election. This seems to be standard and beyond that a potentially helpful thing to look into. Absolutely. Abuses go back decades and decades. And it's both parties.The 2 party system is theater for us rubes. The elite agenda will slowly get pushed if they have leaders that are pliable and bought with their own money. The rest is just performance art to fill up TV time. At least that's what it feels like. All I can say is, do your research with an open mind and pay attention to different sources. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 2:57:54 PM #269: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
darkjedilink posted...UrCa1988 posted...darkphoenix181 posted...UrCa1988 posted...It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts." Carter Page was under FBI investigation since 2014, well before he signed on with the Trump campaign. Try again. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Doctor Foxx 02/02/18 2:58:03 PM #270: |
Nomadic View posted...
Doctor Foxx posted...Just lol if you think that American intelligence agencies were not looking into the campaign party members and actions of anyone in other parties running for election. This seems to be standard and beyond that a potentially helpful thing to look into. The government has been engaging in ongoing unapologetic unwarranted surveillance of domestic targets since Bush Jr. (Patriot Act) and even before then in other capacities. It predates the Obama administration. Did everyone forget about five eyes and how Every. Single. Person. Is being monitored? You can thank Bush for the Patriot Act and the increased public surveillance remember when people were just mad about having their library book list shared oh lord --- Never write off the Doctor! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LordRazziel 02/02/18 2:58:21 PM #271: |
I know I kinda said this before and, of course, it doesn't have any sway on the issue, but it's strange how many of the usual suspects aren't chiming in on this. They're also the ones with a decent head on their shoulders, even if they don't always use it.
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Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 2:59:33 PM #272: |
Has the argument really already shifted from
This memo will destroy the Democratic Party at its core, the FBI and DOJ are done, and at least five people are going to jail to This memo is just a taste. Just wait until Trump gets his REAL prize... HUSSEIN OBAMA lmao --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 2:59:41 PM #273: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? Still dodging. Are you ok with law enforcement using material that they know is false when they secure a warrant? If youre not going to answer it, just tell me, and Ill stop asking. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 3:01:16 PM #274: |
Nomadic View posted...
The Great Muta 22 posted...Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not? --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 02/02/18 3:01:28 PM #275: |
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Has the argument really already shifted from If you think all the cards have been played already you're very mistaken. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 3:02:58 PM #277: |
UrCa1988 posted...
Nomadic View posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? If its verifiable then rely on whatever the verifiable sources are. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 3:03:07 PM #278: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...Has the argument really already shifted from Lol Ill take that as a yes, then. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GaryGaryGary 02/02/18 3:03:33 PM #279: |
So are the democrats the real baddies rather than the republicans?
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 3:03:59 PM #281: |
Nomadic View posted...
Are you ok with law enforcement using material that they know is false when they secure a warrant? This has nothing to do with what happened and you know it. Until you can prove that the FBI claimed the entire dossier is false, your semantic argument is pointless and entirely transparent. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkphoenix181 02/02/18 3:04:23 PM #282: |
UrCa1988 posted...
If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not? What if 25% of the memo is false, 25% is verifiable and 50% is inconclusive. Do you believe the memo being released is a mistake then? --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 3:05:12 PM #284: |
Nomadic View posted...
UrCa1988 posted...Nomadic View posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? And until you see the FISA warrant entirely, you have zero proof that the FBI didn't do that. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 3:05:46 PM #285: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Nomadic View posted...Are you ok with law enforcement using material that they know is false when they secure a warrant? If it makes you feel better Ill answer it first. No, law enforcement should not use material that they know is false, even in part, when they secure a warrant. Your turn. Again, if youre scared of me or the question just tell me. Ill stop if you tell me to. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 3:07:16 PM #286: |
Nomadic View posted...
UrCa1988 posted...Nomadic View posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? That's what I assume Muta was getting at. I don't believe anyone is claiming the dossier is 100% true, I'm pretty sure we know a lot of it is unverified, but if the FBI is choosing to seriously consider this dossier, we can at least safely assume some (even if we don't know what) is possibly actionable intel. If some of that information matches up with what they've already got on Page given that he's already been under FBI scrutiny since 2013, that independent corroboration just solidifies what they've got on him, and if that part of the dossier was used for the warrant, would that be a bad thing? --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funkydog 02/02/18 3:07:18 PM #287: |
Nomadic View posted...
Again, if youre scared of me or the question just tell me. Ok stop if you tell me to. You are such a kind and generous soul, offering to go easy on him --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 3:07:52 PM #288: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Nomadic View posted...UrCa1988 posted...Nomadic View posted...The Great Muta 22 posted...Nomadic View posted...They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant? Yes, I do. Its self evident in the plain language. If they used other sources then there is no need to submit documents they know are false. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 02/02/18 3:08:42 PM #290: |
It's going to be grand when the Dems whine and cry hyperbolically that Trump is a fascist dictator or whatever after he rightfully ousts a few more people over this.
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 3:08:51 PM #291: |
Nomadic View posted...
If it makes you feel better Ill answer it first. No one has ever been afraid of you. Likewise no, law enforcement should not do that. And good thing the FBI has never claimed that the Steele Dossier was entirely false. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 02/02/18 3:09:01 PM #292: |
The memo in a sense is the beginning. There are a lot of crumbs of info floating out there. Like this executive order for instance.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/executive-order-blocking-property-persons-involved-serious-human-rights-abuse-corruption/ Pay attention to the big pedo rings being found in the last year or so. The Hollywood stuff. Pay attention to the Clinton Foundation and ask why they downsized massively after the election. Why would people just stop donating to the charity all of a sudden? Pay attention to the CEOs and people who are resigning from companies all of a sudden. The Google guy (Schmidt?) walked away from the company shortly after that EO was signed. Pay attention to the Saudi arrests from weeks ago. Check out the Newsweek scandal. Etc. Not saying it's all "real" or "connected', but open your mind and question things. --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Great Muta 22 02/02/18 3:09:54 PM #293: |
Nomadic View posted...
Yes, I do. Its self evident in the plain language. If they used other sources then there is no need to submit documents they know are false. You have no idea how FISA warrants work. And you could have just said that in the beginning and saved all of us time. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Antifar 02/02/18 3:11:19 PM #294: |
tommybel89 posted...
Not saying it's all "real" or "connected', but open your mind and question things. Then what are you saying? Why put those items in the same paragraph if you don't think there's a connection? --- kin to all that throbs ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 02/02/18 3:12:55 PM #295: |
The Great Muta 22 posted...
Nomadic View posted...If it makes you feel better Ill answer it first. Thank you for finally answering. I agree. I doubt the dossier is completely 100% false. Im sure Steele at least spelled his name correctly. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 02/02/18 3:13:36 PM #296: |
shockthemonkey posted...
This was posted in another topic: Fake news --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UrCa1988 02/02/18 3:14:03 PM #297: |
darkphoenix181 posted...
UrCa1988 posted...If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not? No, because if they're choosing to intentionally release a document that is almost entirely false, it speaks a lot to their character considering how they were building this up as bigger than Watergate. I don't even know why you said that, it's not even a very good comparison because it just shows how wholly dishonest it would be to release such a false document when we have no way to corroborate the information given that we don't know the entire context of the FISA warrant. --- "Sometimes, all the stupidity in the world is boiled down to one single product that you can buy at Home Depot." ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 02/02/18 3:14:47 PM #298: |
lmao at trump humpers trying to act like this changes anything...they are so desperate for something to slow mueller down but luckily this doesn't actually change a thing and orange hitler is still under criminal investigation by mueller.
literally nothing in this is new information that wasn't known lmao --- I am thinking about just walking into the river now that Megaupload is gone and condoms are in porn.-Fubonis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tommybel89 02/02/18 3:15:05 PM #299: |
Antifar posted...
tommybel89 posted...Not saying it's all "real" or "connected', but open your mind and question things. Consider that it MIGHT be connected and wonder why the mainstream media doesn't cover it. If I say it's all connected, then people will just shout me down and say "lulz conspiracy!" --- Go Leafs Go http://www.last.fm/user/Disposableher0 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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