Poll of the Day > Which party is more evil, Democrats or Republicans?

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Yellow
01/26/18 1:57:52 AM
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Democrats know what Americans want, they pretend to fight for it, but they just want money more.

Republicans have a vision and they fight for something, but it's terrible.

Democrats are so weak they lose to the biggest joke of all time, a TV reality star with a red lightsaber. They deny the most popular candidates in favor of a candidate that previously broke fundraising records, and lost anyway.

That government shutdown was so spineless, they just "gave up". They're so bad at their jobs it's almost as if they're doing it on purpose. It's a weak, spineless party that stands for nothing.

It's the party of "not racism".
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minervo
01/26/18 1:59:20 AM
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Where's the poll?
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VeeVees
01/26/18 2:00:12 AM
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Both are completely evil with no good in them.
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WastelandCowboy
01/26/18 2:00:18 AM
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Yellow posted...
Which party is more evil?

The Fascist party.

Democrats and Republicans have a lot of good and bad. It's not just black or white, but varying shades of Red and Blue.
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Yellow
01/26/18 2:05:47 AM
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WastelandCowboy posted...
The Fascist party.

Democrats and Republicans have a lot of good and bad. It's not just black or white, but varying shades of Red and Blue.

You mean the less fascist party?

How many American people want to be in the middle east? The government doesn't care. The Democrats will talk to us about Russia.

Even then, they're just the party of liars. Republicans do it to our faces.
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DarkKirby2500
01/26/18 2:07:30 AM
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Which is more evil is just who currently has more power.
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Entity13
01/26/18 2:57:53 AM
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I stumbled upon a comment somewhere in which someone said they're two cheeks of the same arse, to which I have to concur to a fair degree. Both sides are plenty horrible.
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Lokarin
01/26/18 3:02:19 AM
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They're both the Property Party.
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TES_Nut
01/26/18 3:34:39 AM
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They're both bad for different reasons. Dems make bad trade deals,nafta killed my local economy growing up, and rigged their own primary. Reps lately are just mean and openly lie. Both parties have recently had total legislative control and blew it.

I'm Republicans are worse right now. They want to ban abortion but also kill programs that would help young and poor families, lowering the demand for abortions. They have shown an unusual amount of odium towards people that haven't hurt anyone. They claim to be the fiscally responsible party, but any decent economist will tell you that we need increased tax revenue, lower income inequality, and that trickle down economics doesn't work.
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Setsunahenry
01/26/18 3:38:35 AM
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Both.
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Cacciato
01/26/18 3:55:58 AM
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minervo posted...
Where's the poll?

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Unbridled9
01/26/18 4:02:55 AM
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Dems for sure. They're often overly moralizing, patronizing, and flat-out hypocritical on almost every issue. However the most recent generation have become effective communistic whiners with no concept of reality. They talk about things like how it's wrong to stereotype people based on their origin, lifestyle, or beliefs, then promptly label anyone who disagrees with them as being a bible-belt dwelling redneck who is too stupid to grasp simple concepts such as 'morals' and sleeps with their cousins. Talk about how oppressive the farmer who spends all day working the fields is from their coffee houses and luxury smart phones. Claim that land belongs to indigenous peoples and imperialism needs to die before proclaiming anyone with even a bit of concern over immigration as being a racist nazi searching for a final solution.

Their party is so corrupt and rotten that they were up against the person who has been the literal butt of presidential jokes for DECADES now and STILL lost! A sock-puppet could have beaten Trump! Yet they found and supported the one person who could lose to a sock-puppet! Their 'assassination' of Bernie showed how corrupt the party is beyond it's utopian-sounding ideals. Meanwhile the republicans get cast as being on-par with Sith lords for simply existing. There are places today where simply not espousing democratic ideals can get you fired or hurt; yet it's the evil republican whom is out to destroy everything!

*sigh*

I'm not saying that the republican party is, somehow, innocent and not guilty of some major problems. They oppose quite a few things which should be worrisome to say the least. However, most republicans I've seen IRL tend to be respectful and even a bit frightened to express their political ideals while most democrats seem to be willing to mob dissenters and wield microphones to preach their beliefs. If I had to pick an evil party, my vote goes to the one that, IRL, I've seen make the opposing party outright terrified to even acknowledge their party.
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TES_Nut
01/26/18 8:30:05 AM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Dems for sure. They're often overly moralizing, patronizing, and flat-out hypocritical on almost every issue. However the most recent generation have become effective communistic whiners with no concept of reality. They talk about things like how it's wrong to stereotype people based on their origin, lifestyle, or beliefs, then promptly label anyone who disagrees with them as being a bible-belt dwelling redneck who is too stupid to grasp simple concepts such as 'morals' and sleeps with their cousins. Talk about how oppressive the farmer who spends all day working the fields is from their coffee houses and luxury smart phones. Claim that land belongs to indigenous peoples and imperialism needs to die before proclaiming anyone with even a bit of concern over immigration as being a racist nazi searching for a final solution.

Their party is so corrupt and rotten that they were up against the person who has been the literal butt of presidential jokes for DECADES now and STILL lost! A sock-puppet could have beaten Trump! Yet they found and supported the one person who could lose to a sock-puppet! Their 'assassination' of Bernie showed how corrupt the party is beyond it's utopian-sounding ideals. Meanwhile the republicans get cast as being on-par with Sith lords for simply existing. There are places today where simply not espousing democratic ideals can get you fired or hurt; yet it's the evil republican whom is out to destroy everything!

*sigh*

I'm not saying that the republican party is, somehow, innocent and not guilty of some major problems. They oppose quite a few things which should be worrisome to say the least. However, most republicans I've seen IRL tend to be respectful and even a bit frightened to express their political ideals while most democrats seem to be willing to mob dissenters and wield microphones to preach their beliefs. If I had to pick an evil party, my vote goes to the one that, IRL, I've seen make the opposing party outright terrified to even acknowledge their party.


That's crazy though. Can't have a rational discussion with crazy. It's harder to be a moderate liberal right now than a moderate republican just because of those sorts. Key word there is moderate. The right has those sorts too. Problem is the rights crazys hold positions of power now while for the most part the moderates have held control of the Dems. Nationally at least.

Niether are evil. Evil exists but it extremely rare.

The people you mentioned getting censored and fired usually aren't being moderate and have trouble separating the ideas from the people. Like, modern mid east culture has a terrorist problem but that doesn't mean you can call them names or threaten them with violence. Same with illegals, funny how you only hear about the ones that speak Spanish when there are a ton of other races and cultures that are guilty too. The first amendment protects you from legal prosecution. Not social or professional consequences.
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GastroFan
01/26/18 10:43:15 AM
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I'd say there are hypocrites in both parties but the worst are those who wrap themselves in the American flag and call themselves 'patriots'. I've met too many of those 'fair weather patriots' in my life. Those who call themselves 'Christians' yet cheat on their wives, blatantly lie (do as I say; not as I do) and show no compassion, tolerance or understanding toward their fellow man are second in my opinion.
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Andromicus
01/26/18 10:57:57 AM
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One party will always vote for corporate interests and to repeal protections made for your safety and call you a traitor if you don't go along with it, the other will call you racist for not standing against them, yeah the first guys are worse
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wolfy42
01/26/18 12:50:59 PM
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The party of politicians is the most evil.

Well....lawyers (and my wife was one) are up there.
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Smarkil
01/26/18 12:51:19 PM
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Andromicus posted...
One party will always vote for corporate interests and to repeal protections made for your safety and call you a traitor if you don't go along with it, the other will call you racist for not standing against them, yeah the first guys are worse


Except the second one calls you racist and also tries to get you fired for it.
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Rockies
01/26/18 12:54:31 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Dems for sure. They're often overly moralizing, patronizing, and flat-out hypocritical on almost every issue. However the most recent generation have become effective communistic whiners with no concept of reality. They talk about things like how it's wrong to stereotype people based on their origin, lifestyle, or beliefs, then promptly label anyone who disagrees with them as being a bible-belt dwelling redneck who is too stupid to grasp simple concepts such as 'morals' and sleeps with their cousins. Talk about how oppressive the farmer who spends all day working the fields is from their coffee houses and luxury smart phones. Claim that land belongs to indigenous peoples and imperialism needs to die before proclaiming anyone with even a bit of concern over immigration as being a racist nazi searching for a final solution.


This is about actual public servants, not liberals in general. If we wanted to take your approach to answering the question, then I'd point out how Republicans have voters that wear KKK hoods and march with Nazi flags. Your perceptions sound way off-base and paranoid anyway. Like how is being pro-immigration and anti-imperialism hypocritical? That sounds borne of "_____ are going to take over the country!" fear-mongering. When do liberals ever complain about farmers (and by that I mean farmers, not giant agriculture corporations) being oppressive? I'll give you that redneck stereotyping exists, but it's a pretty easy target when "proud to be ignorant" simpletons wear it so brightly. I don't think that stereotype is that universal, especially as the alt-right has given rise to conservatism in atheist suburbanites. Also, you realize you're doing the same thing when you stereotype liberals as smartphone-obsessed Starbucks addicts?

Anyways, on-topic, at least the Democrats actually attempt to help people and try new things, and some of their ideas have wide bipartisan public support (like DACA and net neutrality). Republicans are stuck singing the same tune from 30 or 40 years ago, despite evidence that their policies are huge failures and/or only serve to help corporate interests. They ignore compromises that get them some of what they want (for example, increasing access to birth control reduces the rate of abortions, but they keep trying to limit birth control too), and lately have been content with eliminating popular initiatives out of spite. Republicans are way worse. The Democrats are spineless losers with an obvious problem with party favoritism, but if anything I think that just angers more left-leaning people than right-leaning. Both parties have had disastrous interventionist foreign policy in recent years so I'd call that one a wash.
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gguirao
01/26/18 1:41:29 PM
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Republcans.

Racist
Sexist
Religiously intolerant
More concerned about guns than human life
More concerned about making the rich richer than about helping the poor
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Unbridled9
01/26/18 3:26:45 PM
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This is about actual public servants, not liberals in general. If we wanted to take your approach to answering the question, then I'd point out how Republicans have voters that wear KKK hoods and march with Nazi flags.

And? The Republican party distances itself from those guys every time, yet radical leftist ideology is popping up everywhere now-a-days. You can get fired from places for simply not having the right ideology.

Your perceptions sound way off-base and paranoid anyway.

It's based off of real life experience.

Like how is being pro-immigration and anti-imperialism hypocritical? That sounds borne of "_____ are going to take over the country!" fear-mongering.

It's not. What IS is complaining about things like how the white man colonized various locations and displaced the native population and culture, but then championing it when other groups do it. One way or the other. Either it's wrong to try and displace a native population through things such as immigration or its not.

When do liberals ever complain about farmers (and by that I mean farmers, not giant agriculture corporations) being oppressive?

Erm. All the time? That's the point. A lot of the Republicans that they constantly lamblast as being evil and corrupt are people living in the more rural areas, outside of massive cities.

Also, you realize you're doing the same thing when you stereotype liberals as smartphone-obsessed Starbucks addicts?

Way to miss the point. Namely that these liberals are living in a comfortable bubble where they have their whims catered too and live a life of relative luxury where they gladly chastise people from atop a moral ivory tower feeling that they're beyond repercussion or hypocrisy.
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TigerTycoon
01/26/18 3:30:26 PM
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If you think either the Democrats or the Republicans are the "good guys" you are naive at best and stupid at worst.
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TES_Nut
01/26/18 3:31:56 PM
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Unbridled9 posted...
Way to miss the point. Namely that these liberals are living in a comfortable bubble where they have their whims catered too and live a life of relative luxury where they gladly chastise people from atop a moral ivory tower feeling that they're beyond repercussion or hypocrisy.


Lol ivory tower. I share a shitty 2br apartment with 2 other grown ass people. I ain't comfortable buddy. Idk why I'm arguing your probably not even old enough to vote.
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Sherm128
01/26/18 3:47:20 PM
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Yes
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NightMareBunny
01/26/18 3:51:33 PM
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TigerTycoon posted...
If you think either the Democrats or the Republicans are the "good guys" you are naive at best and stupid at worst.


and if you think the world would be better without politics and laws then you are a grade a moron
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TigerTycoon
01/26/18 4:28:14 PM
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NightMareBunny posted...
TigerTycoon posted...
If you think either the Democrats or the Republicans are the "good guys" you are naive at best and stupid at worst.


and if you think the world would be better without politics and laws then you are a grade a moron

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/strawman
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NightMareBunny
01/26/18 4:34:15 PM
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nothing strawman about it but there's always gonna be the lesser of two evils and right now the Democrats are the lesser of two evils

kinda hard to play both sides are horrible argument when one side is backing somebody who treats the presidency as a television show and Americans as his audience tuning in to see what wacky antics he gets into this time

take a drink every time he mentions fake news or crooked Hillary
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BADoglick
01/26/18 4:45:29 PM
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You're honestly a naive dumbass if you legitimately think that either one is less evil than the other.
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BADoglick
01/26/18 7:21:21 PM
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TigerTycoon posted...
If you think either the Democrats or the Republicans are the "good guys" you are naive at best and stupid at worst.


I literally posted the exact same thing without noticing that you already said it. 100% spot on
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Unbridled9
01/27/18 12:49:31 AM
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TES_Nut posted...
Unbridled9 posted...
Way to miss the point. Namely that these liberals are living in a comfortable bubble where they have their whims catered too and live a life of relative luxury where they gladly chastise people from atop a moral ivory tower feeling that they're beyond repercussion or hypocrisy.


Lol ivory tower. I share a shitty 2br apartment with 2 other grown ass people. I ain't comfortable buddy. Idk why I'm arguing your probably not even old enough to vote.


I live in a single room where I have to share a communal bathroom while hearing squirrels ****ing in the walls every night because the landlord can't seem to find capable exterminators. It's true I don't have to share with other people, but when my entire living space amounts to a bed, computer/desk, and just a bit more space for things like a fridge and movement, I think I'd much rather take the roommates.
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Rockies
01/27/18 12:55:54 AM
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I live in a single room above a bowling alley and below another bowling alley
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Zeus
01/27/18 1:09:10 AM
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Yellow posted...
Democrats know what Americans want, they pretend to fight for it, but they just want money more.

Republicans have a vision and they fight for something, but it's terrible.

Democrats are so weak they lose to the biggest joke of all time, a TV reality star with a red lightsaber. They deny the most popular candidates in favor of a candidate that previously broke fundraising records, and lost anyway.


I'm not sure which characterization is more ridiculous. However, in general, they didn't "deny" Bernie anything. If he was actually the most popular candidate, he would have won. Instead the Democrats picked a less batshit insane candidate.

In general, both parties push for the will of the American people to some extent and frequently betray their voterbases. In most cases, it's just saber-rattling for effect rather than actual ill intent. And both parties want stupid things.

Yellow posted...
That government shutdown was so spineless, they just "gave up". They're so bad at their jobs it's almost as if they're doing it on purpose. It's a weak, spineless party that stands for nothing.


Which spineless shutdown? There were two of them. Either way, it's a stupid move. There shouldn't be shutdowns over either issue.

TES_Nut posted...
They have shown an unusual amount of odium towards people that haven't hurt anyone.


What?

TES_Nut posted...
They claim to be the fiscally responsible party, but any decent economist will tell you that we need increased tax revenue, lower income inequality, and that trickle down economics doesn't work.


So many problems with that statement. First off, we don't necessarily need "lower income inequality." Income inequality is by itself a pointless metric. After all, when everybody is poor, you have *perfect* income equality and yet it's the worst possible outcome. Likewise, tax revenue varies based on spend and, given that the bulk is entitlement spending, requiring massive revenue for that is a net negative. In general, societies inevitably revolt under massive taxation. If your "decent economists" can't realize that, go talk to any decent historian. Or any historian.
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Yellow
01/27/18 1:20:28 AM
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Zeus posted...
If he was actually the most popular candidate, he would have won.

I mean, do I even have to comment on this?

Useless facts
http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/HHP-August-Wave_Topline-Memo_Total-Only_Registered-Voters.pdf
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Zeus
01/27/18 1:23:16 AM
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Yellow posted...
Zeus posted...
If he was actually the most popular candidate, he would have won.

I mean, do I even have to comment on this?


Do I need to explain how the primaries actually work? He was mathematically eliminated WITHOUT even counting super-delegates. The entire argument for him involved taking the super-delegates who are *supposed* to support the winner of the popular vote and flip them to him so he could win without winning the popular vote. The fact that you personally like him doesn't automatically make him the most popular candidate. People who like him may love him, but most people don't even like him.
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Yellow
01/27/18 1:44:15 AM
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Zeus posted...
The fact that you personally like him doesn't automatically make him the most popular candidate. People who like him may love him, but most people don't even like him.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/apr/27/mike-crute/despite-losing-nomination-hillary-clinton-bernie-s/

http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Harvard-CAPS-Harris-Poll-April-Wave-Topline-Favorability-04.18.2017.pdf

Librul bias? Let's see what Fox news has to...

(ctrl+f "bernie sanders")
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2017/03/15/fox-news-poll-315.html
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Zeus
01/27/18 1:51:03 AM
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Yellow posted...
Zeus posted...
The fact that you personally like him doesn't automatically make him the most popular candidate. People who like him may love him, but most people don't even like him.

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2017/apr/27/mike-crute/despite-losing-nomination-hillary-clinton-bernie-s/

http://harvardharrispoll.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/Harvard-CAPS-Harris-Poll-April-Wave-Topline-Favorability-04.18.2017.pdf

Librul bias? Let's see what Fox news has to...

(ctrl+f "bernie sanders")
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/interactive/2017/03/15/fox-news-poll-315.html


Which are meaningless claims, considering that the *only* real test is at the polls. And, broadly speaking, the reports suggest that it's more a matter that he doesn't have as much hate as the others which isn't so much more popular as it is less unpopular which, coincidentally enough, is why he's not popular enough to win a primary despite having hear-equal funding to Hillary. (Donald Trump, on the other hand, won despite having a fraction of his Republican rivals, beating out big-money opponents like Jeb Bush.)
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Yellow
01/27/18 1:51:28 AM
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While you're at it, check out how popular Hillary Clinton is and hopefully you can realize how ridiculous this

Zeus posted...
If he was actually the most popular candidate, he would have won.

comment is.

No. One of the least popular candidates took the primaries and the less popular of the two remainders won the election to the least popular president in US history.
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Yellow
01/27/18 1:52:31 AM
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Zeus posted...
Which are meaningless claims, considering that the *only* real test is at the polls.

"polls are meaningless shut up shut up shut up"
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Zeus
01/27/18 1:55:51 AM
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Yellow posted...
Zeus posted...
Which are meaningless claims, considering that the *only* real test is at the polls.

"polls are meaningless shut up shut up shut up"


C'mon, son. The only reason you have to rely on this speculative bullshit is because he lost his primary. He was up against a candidate who previously lost to Barack Obama (who, by the way, was popular enough to win his primary so you could actually call him popular instead of having to dig around for surveys which contradict the actual results)
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Yellow
01/27/18 2:11:07 AM
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"The actual results"

Confirmed that Trump lost the popular vote. Deal with it.
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TheCyborgNinja
01/27/18 4:43:49 AM
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Republicans tend to be more honest about their agenda. Neither are good, but you can trust them more in the sense that they don't try to hide the fact they are self-serving nearly as much.
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oldschoolzero
01/27/18 12:37:21 PM
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Which party is "more" evil? Democrats. Which parties ideology is more evil? Democrats.

The Left has value but 10 steps to the left is worse than 20 to the right.
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OhhhJa
01/27/18 12:54:13 PM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Republicans tend to be more honest about their agenda. Neither are good, but you can trust them more in the sense that they don't try to hide the fact they are self-serving nearly as much.

This. Dems are phony
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WastelandCowboy
01/27/18 6:38:26 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
TheCyborgNinja posted...
Republicans tend to be more honest about their agenda. Neither are good, but you can trust them more in the sense that they don't try to hide the fact they are self-serving nearly as much.

This. Dems are phony

Not this. Some Republicans are also phony.
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JixHedgehog
01/27/18 6:53:58 PM
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Dems

They hate Americans (putting immigrants and even illegals first), the money we make (they want more and more of it AND they shot fown the tax overhaul) and won't stop this smear campaign against our President.

Say what you want about Trump, he was voted in after a fair and square election
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OhhhJa
01/27/18 6:56:41 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
Dems

They hate Americans (putting immigrants and even illegals first), the money we make (they want more and more of it AND they shot fown the tax overhaul) and won't stop this smear campaign against our President.

Say what you want about Trump, he was voted in after a fair and square election

But but.... according to dems Russia voted him in!!!
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WastelandCowboy
01/27/18 6:59:48 PM
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JixHedgehog posted...
Dems

They hate Americans (putting immigrants and even illegals first), the money we make (they want more and more of it AND they shot fown the tax overhaul) and won't stop this smear campaign against our President.

Say what you want about Trump, he was voted in after a fair and square election

Democrats don't hate Americans. They just hate it when others put down other ethnicities and don't care about others or the suffering of others, like a lot of Republicans are notorious for doing. This country was founded on people from other countries seeking a better life and future for themselves and their family. Yet, most Republicans are fighting to kick out people who were born in this country and are being forced out just because their parents were illegal immigrants.
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OhhhJa
01/27/18 7:12:55 PM
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Funny how dems are against all principles america was founded on with the exception of the melting pot. That's the one true American principle they'll actually stand for. As for everything else... "we need to look at Sweden for inspiration!!!"
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WastelandCowboy
01/27/18 8:18:02 PM
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OhhhJa posted...
Funny how dems are against all principles america was founded on with the exception of the melting pot. That's the one true American principle they'll actually stand for. As for everything else... "we need to look at Sweden for inspiration!!!"

Lol, wut?

No really, explain to me all these principles America was founded on, because last I checked, it's been over 200 years since this country was founded and society has changed greatly. Women have equal rights as men. Children aren't being forced to work at 12 years old. Slavery has ended.
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RomanGhost
01/27/18 8:35:10 PM
#50:


Neither. Parties aren't evil, people are.
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Time to write the wrong year at the end of the date for the next three months. Happy (noncursewordbecausewecan'thavethatinasig) New Year.
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SKARDAVNELNATE
01/28/18 12:39:33 AM
#51:


One is Chaotic Evil, the other Lawful Evil. Neither is more evil than the other. Just a different evil.
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No locked doors, no windows barred. No more things to make my brain seem SKARD.
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