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HaRRicH
09/27/17 3:22:48 PM
#51:


Bowser, are you suggesting Villanueva jerseys are being bought by people who are not normally NFL fans?
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transcience
09/27/17 3:25:03 PM
#52:


I mean, I believe that Kap jerseys are sold to non-nfl fans so I don't see why not
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LordoftheMorons
09/27/17 3:28:07 PM
#53:


https://twitter.com/JGreenDC/status/912999201658818560

I wonder what his McConnell impression is
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SupremeZero
09/27/17 3:36:55 PM
#54:


https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"
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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 3:41:13 PM
#55:


Basically everything in this Trump speech makes me feel like I'm living in another dimension.
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 3:41:36 PM
#56:


HaRRicH posted...
Bowser, are you suggesting Villanueva jerseys are being bought by people who are not normally NFL fans?


I mean that people who buy Cena Sucks shirts are generally not protesting wrestling, or even the WWE.

They're just having fun hating on one wrestler in particular.

So there's no conflict of interest there like there is for protesting "politicized football" by buying from the NFL.

On that note...

https://78.media.tumblr.com/526ad94ae3501f346c82267374f59d80/tumblr_owwo1pCDH21s9c6nao1_540.jpg

The first post is by Martin Luther King Jr's daughter.

Something that the second poster failed to realize.

There really is a constructed, white-friendly version of MLK Jr that's being used as a bludgeon to try to silence black protest, isn't there?
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LordoftheMorons
09/27/17 3:44:12 PM
#57:


SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"

"I am just everyday American Antifa member. Comrades, we must transform strong, manly NFL fanbase into weak females who can't even handle their vodka because of the gluten in the potatoes."

...actually oops there's no gluten in potatoes, that joke doesn't work as well as I thought it did
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 3:47:18 PM
#58:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Basically everything in this Trump speech makes me feel like I'm living in another dimension.


He's having a speech now? Topic? Or at least, SCHEDULED topic?
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 3:47:42 PM
#59:


LordoftheMorons posted...
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"

"I am just everyday American Antifa member. Comrades, we must transform strong, manly NFL fanbase into weak females who can't even handle their vodka because of the gluten in the potatoes."


I'm not sure why anyone is surprised - this sort of thing has been happening on Tumblr for years with "bus-kin" and other weird "SJW" shit that's actually being run by anti-SJWs or other alt-righters and then bought by other anti-SJWs and alt-righters hook, line, and sinker.

Tumblr, like so many other social media, has become an utter hellsite.
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Metal_DK
09/27/17 3:50:45 PM
#60:


BowserCuffs posted...
Tumblr, like so many other social media, has become an utter hellsite.


Guess what year Tumblr was founded
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 3:50:58 PM
#61:


SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"


People have been yelling about these Russian sockpuppet accounts for years.

But make no mistake, there are Russian sockpuppet accounts that are designed to enrage progressives by acting stereotypically like conservatives too.

Russia has invested a lot of time and money sowing the seeds of division in America via social media. But only one side wants to admit it.
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Panthera
09/27/17 3:51:54 PM
#62:


SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"


That person just cannot get over the fact that the parody account used the term gluten-free. Literally obsessed etc
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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 3:53:00 PM
#63:


Jakyl25 posted...
ChaosTonyV4 posted...
Basically everything in this Trump speech makes me feel like I'm living in another dimension.


He's having a speech now? Topic? Or at least, SCHEDULED topic?


https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/880816858744932/

Taxes.

At one point he literally said "This will be good for my legacy", lol.
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 3:53:33 PM
#64:


Panthera posted...
SupremeZero posted...
https://twitter.com/my2k/status/913110559024803840

"Whoops"


That person just cannot get over the fact that the parody account used the term gluten-free. Literally obsessed etc


It's not a parody account though. It's meant to make conservatives mad at progressives
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Regaro
09/27/17 3:55:29 PM
#65:


Literally everything I see when the topic comes up makes me believe the usual suspects are full of shit re:antifa being a serious, credible thing, whether they realize it or not
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 3:58:41 PM
#66:


Metal_DK posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Tumblr, like so many other social media, has become an utter hellsite.


Guess what year Tumblr was founded


If you have to spam a theory every single chance you get, then it clearly doesn't have enough merit to stand on its own two legs.

And I'm getting tired of your one trick, pony.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 3:59:25 PM
#67:


BowserCuffs posted...

If you have to spam a theory every single chance you get, then it clearly doesn't have enough merit to stand on its own two legs.

And I'm getting tired of your one trick, pony.


I'm not.
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 4:02:29 PM
#68:


As a complete financial layman, these ideas don't seem that bad

I would much rather woo business with lower taxes than less regulation.
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 4:02:38 PM
#69:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...

If you have to spam a theory every single chance you get, then it clearly doesn't have enough merit to stand on its own two legs.

And I'm getting tired of your one trick, pony.


I'm not.


Ok
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 4:04:50 PM
#70:


The 2007 cultural turning point theory is actually really gaining traction.

You heard it from Metal_DK first
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ChaosTonyV4
09/27/17 4:05:01 PM
#71:


Jakyl25 posted...
As a complete financial layman, these ideas don't seem that bad

I would much rather woo business with lower taxes than less regulation.


Well we're getting both.

Increased military spending tho
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Panthera
09/27/17 4:05:59 PM
#72:


Jakyl25 posted...

It's not a parody account though. It's meant to make conservatives mad at progressives


I think an account that exists to make an idea look bad by presenting an exaggerated version of it qualifies as a "parody account"
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 4:06:41 PM
#73:


Jakyl25 posted...
The 2007 cultural turning point theory is actually really gaining traction.


I mean... just because it's becoming more popular doesn't necessarily mean it's more right.

As an example, the Flat Earth theory is also gaining traction. Does that mean I should start believing that the world is flat and the universe revolves around it?

(Also, even if it did have merit, the fact of the matter is that it's literally all he posts about. It's the same reason people are annoyed at vegans, self-described skeptics, and evangelical proselytizer)
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 4:07:24 PM
#74:


Panthera posted...
Jakyl25 posted...

It's not a parody account though. It's meant to make conservatives mad at progressives


I think an account that exists to make an idea look bad by presenting an exaggerated version of it qualifies as a "parody account"


Usually parodies make themselves known as such though
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Mr Lasastryke
09/27/17 4:08:14 PM
#75:


according to noted scientist b.o.b the earth is flat so this is obviously correct.
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Regaro
09/27/17 4:08:24 PM
#76:


Panthera posted...
Jakyl25 posted...

It's not a parody account though. It's meant to make conservatives mad at progressives


I think an account that exists to make an idea look bad by presenting an exaggerated version of it qualifies as a "parody account"

Dude, the account is a literal Russian Sockpuppet account.
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SupremeZero
09/27/17 4:08:47 PM
#77:


"We will give businesses a one time bonus for coming back to america!"

... so they'll come back, get their money, and leave again?
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 4:08:53 PM
#78:


BowserCuffs posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
The 2007 cultural turning point theory is actually really gaining traction.


I mean... just because it's becoming more popular doesn't necessarily mean it's more right.

As an example, the Flat Earth theory is also gaining traction. Does that mean I should start believing that the world is flat and the universe revolves around it?


Just sayin' smartphones and the major social media sites hitting it big in the same year is kind of significant
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BowserCuffs
09/27/17 4:11:34 PM
#79:


Jakyl25 posted...
BowserCuffs posted...
Jakyl25 posted...
The 2007 cultural turning point theory is actually really gaining traction.


I mean... just because it's becoming more popular doesn't necessarily mean it's more right.

As an example, the Flat Earth theory is also gaining traction. Does that mean I should start believing that the world is flat and the universe revolves around it?


Just sayin' smartphones and the major social media sites hitting it big in the same year is kind of significant


Yeah, as significant as the telephone, the newspaper, and the television, really.

If the point is 'technological advances change society' then give him a freaking Emmy or something.

Either way, it's annoying for the same reason militant vegans are annoying.
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Panthera
09/27/17 4:15:16 PM
#80:


Regaro posted...
Panthera posted...
Jakyl25 posted...

It's not a parody account though. It's meant to make conservatives mad at progressives


I think an account that exists to make an idea look bad by presenting an exaggerated version of it qualifies as a "parody account"

Dude, the account is a literal Russian Sockpuppet account.


Whose goal is to parody "progressive" ideas in a way that makes them look bad.
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ExThaNemesis
09/27/17 4:16:09 PM
#81:


Mr Lasastryke posted...
do you, though? you strike me as a guy who leans left on most things who just temporarily jumped on the trump bandwagon because it was the "anti-feminist" thing to do.


I mean I'm hard right on feminism too but I guess you're right. I'm just not nearly as left as most of you guys are.
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ExThaNemesis
09/27/17 4:17:46 PM
#82:


I love the idea that Metal_DK has been right all along and I'm going to start using that as my head canon.
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CeraSeptem
09/27/17 4:20:56 PM
#83:


BowserCuffs posted...
Jakyl25 posted...

It's like the people who bought the WWE-made "Cena Sucks!" shirts.


Not really.

People who think Cena sucks are generally still WWE fans in the first place.

And the saner ones tend to realize that Cena the character and Cena the person are two different people and that he's actually a respectable guy.

I heard Cena was a baby rapist or something.

Granted it was MWC but he's always seemed like a level head.
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SupremeZero
09/27/17 4:21:58 PM
#84:


http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/news/economy/trump-executive-order-health-care/index.html?sr=twCNN092717economy0328PMStory

Wha?
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Maniac64
09/27/17 4:34:26 PM
#85:


SupremeZero posted...
"We will give businesses a one time bonus for coming back to america!"

... so they'll come back, get their money, and leave again?


Yes, but the important thing is that Trump will be able to brag about all the places that came back.
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Peace___Frog
09/27/17 4:53:15 PM
#86:


Tag
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Dancedreamer
09/27/17 4:55:31 PM
#87:


The one time bonus seems like it's rewarding companies for leaving in the first place too. Which encourages other companies to leave, so they'll be brought back with an incentive 'one time bonus' too.

...or maybe i've been playing too much nationstates idk.
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red sox 777
09/27/17 5:57:48 PM
#88:


It is hard to make the one time bonus credible as a one time event. After this, companies will stash money overseas again, waiting for the next amnesty.

I'm not sure there's a way to make it credible.....Congress cannot do anything to bar a future Congress from doing what it wants.
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trdl23
09/27/17 6:54:39 PM
#89:


Dancedreamer posted...
The one time bonus seems like it's rewarding companies for leaving in the first place too. Which encourages other companies to leave, so they'll be brought back with an incentive 'one time bonus' too.

...or maybe i've been playing too much nationstates idk.

I understand the thought behind this, but for many firms, it takes quite a bit of investment to move. Now they're going to move two more times to get a participation trophy?

The real criticism of this plan is just how ridiculously high this one-time bonus would be to justify the investment to move back, the obsolescence or at least renovation of their current facilities, and the higher variable costs of being in the US. Unless there are big logistical or supply chain savings... "lol."
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Eddv
09/27/17 7:02:31 PM
#90:


trdl23 posted...
Dancedreamer posted...
The one time bonus seems like it's rewarding companies for leaving in the first place too. Which encourages other companies to leave, so they'll be brought back with an incentive 'one time bonus' too.

...or maybe i've been playing too much nationstates idk.

I understand the thought behind this, but for many firms, it takes quite a bit of investment to move. Now they're going to move two more times to get a participation trophy?

The real criticism of this plan is just how ridiculously high this one-time bonus would be to justify the investment to move back, the obsolescence or at least renovation of their current facilities, and the higher variable costs of being in the US. Unless there are big logistical or supply chain savings... "lol."


Well the legal definition of moving is gonna be interesting. Many of these companies are legally based in Delaware already.

So what exactly is going to constitute moving?
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 7:02:53 PM
#91:


The bonus is a puppy
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 7:07:01 PM
#92:


http://money.cnn.com/2017/09/27/media/facebook-black-lives-matter-targeting/index.html

This is exactly what we were talking about earlier with Russian sockpuppets sowing discord.
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trdl23
09/27/17 7:14:34 PM
#93:


Eddv posted...
So what exactly is going to constitute moving?

Gah, that's what I get for thinking about companies having to play by some set of rules. We're kinda spoiled in the auto industry because manufacturing plants and big HQs, plus tons of inherent regulations, make it hard to push money around.
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LordoftheMorons
09/27/17 7:20:36 PM
#94:


Good article about how one of the post-election narratives that absolutely infuriate me ("the polls were wrong") is bullshit: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2017/09/27/your-critique-that-fivethirtyeight-misfired-on-the-2016-race-is-wrong/

The reason this really matters is that getting it wrong means that we'll learn the wrong lessons from 2016 and then make the same mistakes in 2020 and beyond.
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Jakyl25
09/27/17 7:49:36 PM
#95:


https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/912386350942494721

Love these awesome predictions about Health Care that Republicans think are threats
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Not_an_Owl
09/27/17 8:47:23 PM
#96:


Jakyl25 posted...
https://twitter.com/pdmcleod/status/912386350942494721

Love these awesome predictions about Health Care that Republicans think are threats

Really just goes to show the GOP's priorities. Running ourselves into bankruptcy so we can have more bombs to drop on brown people is okay, but spending a little more so our own citizens don't have garbage healthcare is over the line.
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TheRock1525
09/27/17 9:09:54 PM
#97:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00wQYmvfhn4


This is why I really like Oliver.
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LordoftheMorons
09/28/17 1:58:11 AM
#98:


https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632

It's amazing how little self respect Paul Ryan has
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Jakyl25
09/28/17 3:24:21 AM
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Peace___Frog
09/28/17 7:29:29 AM
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https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/913361552358694915

CBS News has learned the EPA paid tens of thousands of dollars for Scott Pruitt to take non-commercial flights https://t.co/h8nAJ5J12c https://t.co/2ztgej17NM


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