Poll of the Day > I hope that if North Korea uses a Nuke, it doesn't use it on Japan or California

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Since 90% of the world's Fun is made on those two places.

I'm glad China already said they will only defend them if they are attacked first.

If NK attacks someone their government should be punished and the citizens should be freed.

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

If they nuked any other country other than South Korea, it's looking like their strategic best choice (if massive damage is their priority) would be Vancouver, BC, given that the USA publicly admitted the other day that they would not intercept any missiles directed towards Canada, and the Canadian Armed Forces are not well enough equipped to intercept a missile. Japan, however, is under very capable US missile defence.
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faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

If they nuked any other country other than South Korea, it's looking like their strategic best choice (if massive damage is their priority) would be Vancouver, BC, given that the USA publicly admitted the other day that they would not intercept any missiles directed towards Canada, and the Canadian Armed Forces are not well enough equipped to intercept a missile. Japan, however, is under very capable US missile defence.

You have a source for the claim that the US said it wouldn't intercept a missile headed toward Canada?

BeerOnTap posted...

faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

If they nuked any other country other than South Korea, it's looking like their strategic best choice (if massive damage is their priority) would be Vancouver, BC, given that the USA publicly admitted the other day that they would not intercept any missiles directed towards Canada, and the Canadian Armed Forces are not well enough equipped to intercept a missile. Japan, however, is under very capable US missile defence.

You have a source for the claim that the US said it wouldn't intercept a missile headed toward Canada?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/u-s-policy-is-not-to-defend-canada-from-icbms-1.3589571
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faramir77 posted...

BeerOnTap posted...

faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

If they nuked any other country other than South Korea, it's looking like their strategic best choice (if massive damage is their priority) would be Vancouver, BC, given that the USA publicly admitted the other day that they would not intercept any missiles directed towards Canada, and the Canadian Armed Forces are not well enough equipped to intercept a missile. Japan, however, is under very capable US missile defence.

You have a source for the claim that the US said it wouldn't intercept a missile headed toward Canada?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/u-s-policy-is-not-to-defend-canada-from-icbms-1.3589571

we probably still would if it comes close enough to the border to have an effect on us.
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Could they maybe fudge up their coordinates on one of their missles and hit China instead?

Mmmm, the ramifications of that would be veeeery interesting to see.
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Why would NK nuke Canada?

I remember a poll saying canada was the least hated country in the world

DrChocolate posted...

Why would NK nuke Canada?

Canada was one of the more active participants in the Korean War, after SK, USA, and the UK.

It would still be highly unlikely for NK to attack Canada, but of all non-South Korean targets, it would have the greatest chance of being a "success" for them. If NK ever launches a nuke, they are absolutely definitely aiming for South Korea.
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If they use a nuke, hopefully it will be launched from an isolated military base and detonate at launch.
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I could go for a Lex Luthor event.
*lights a fat cigar with a trollface grin*
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faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

I doubt it. Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second. It would be in a strategically unimportant place, possibly one with zero military troops or even civilians, that still belongs to the US or Japan. It would not be a big dramatic place, but one picked simply to test American resolve.

If California was nuked I honestly wouldn't even begin to care, I'm on the other side of the country and it seems like an awful place full of awful people to me.

If Japan got nuked I'd be pissed enough to consider joining the military, although that wouldn't be necessary since we would just wipe them off the face of the map.
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North Korea: Suicide by nukes. What's the odds???

Dreaming_King posted...

If California was nuked I honestly wouldn't even begin to care, I'm on the other side of the country and it seems like an awful place full of awful people to me.

If Japan got nuked I'd be pissed enough to consider joining the military, although that wouldn't be necessary since we would just wipe them off the face of the map.

Look, I'm politically 180 degrees opposite from the liberals in California, but if he really did nuke them, I'd swim to Pyongyang and feed him his fucking heart.
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GrimCyclone posted...

Dreaming_King posted...

If California was nuked I honestly wouldn't even begin to care, I'm on the other side of the country and it seems like an awful place full of awful people to me.

If Japan got nuked I'd be pissed enough to consider joining the military, although that wouldn't be necessary since we would just wipe them off the face of the map.

Look, I'm politically 180 degrees opposite from the liberals in California, but if he really did nuke them, I'd swim to Pyongyang and feed him his fucking heart.

Yeah okay tough guy
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They could loophole with attacking Canada, since technically it's not an attack on the US (Even though radiation/fallout etc would affect us).

Don't think it would matter, but yeah, attack mexico/canada near our border and technically you have not attacked the US yet.
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I dunno, California kind of has it coming.
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I hope he nukes me specifically. Franz Ferdinand is my hero.

Dreaming_King posted...

If California was nuked I honestly wouldn't even begin to care, I'm on the other side of the country and it seems like an awful place full of awful people to me.

If Japan got nuked I'd be pissed enough to consider joining the military, although that wouldn't be necessary since we would just wipe them off the face of the map.

You're a piece of shit.

mooreandrew58 posted...

faramir77 posted...

BeerOnTap posted...

faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

If they nuked any other country other than South Korea, it's looking like their strategic best choice (if massive damage is their priority) would be Vancouver, BC, given that the USA publicly admitted the other day that they would not intercept any missiles directed towards Canada, and the Canadian Armed Forces are not well enough equipped to intercept a missile. Japan, however, is under very capable US missile defence.

You have a source for the claim that the US said it wouldn't intercept a missile headed toward Canada?

http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/u-s-policy-is-not-to-defend-canada-from-icbms-1.3589571

we probably still would if it comes close enough to the border to have an effect on us.

Which, if they're aiming for Vancouver, it would be. Seattle's not immediately next door, but it's close enough that they'd be dealing with some pretty intense fallout.
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North koreas best option would be to just not attack anyone, they have china ready to defend them if they get attacked and as long as they don't do anything so big that the rest of the world would forfeit seoul for it they are fairly safe. If they were to attack someone on their own however, their best options would be china or japan.
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The USA would not risk having a nuke hit Canada.

They wouldn't be able to tell where it's going and it would severely impact their biggest trade partner and oil supplier.

zero chance of a nuke hitting anywhere in the US. even if they launched 20 at the same time, none would get through
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North Korea doesn't have the guts to start a war, and that's because it'd end the regime in a matter of weeks... If they had to fire on the west coast, Oregon is probably the best target (for us) because nobody lives there.

Well, I guess hipsters do. But whatever.
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It's all in your heads. Planted by the press. They are trying to bring back the cold war in order to make money on news.
Calm down and don't believe in the so call free press.

Nikra posted...

It's all in your heads. Planted by the press. They are trying to bring back the cold war in order to make money on news.
Calm down and don't believe in the so call free press.

I think a lot of people want a war though, and "made up" ones have started. Look at Iraq...
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wah_wah_wah posted...

faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

I doubt it. Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

Plus NK still probably thinks it could conquer the South and re-incorporate it to "unify" Korea, and nuclear fallout would make that more difficult for an invading force.
And they still hold a grudge against Japan for previous wars and invasions (but oddly, never a grudge against China for its invasions and meddling of Korea in the past, fancy that...)
And Japan's the country they keep launching missiles over and just this week said should be sunk into the ocean.

I'm really worried for Japan. I have no idea how they're not freaking out about it right now. If i were in Japan, I'd be demanding the gov't do a massive military build-up immediately. Both to try and shoot down missiles (ideally before they even get near Japan) and to launch a devastating counter-attack if NK did attack. U.S. isn't going to do shit to help unless a base of ours in Japan is directly attacked, unfortunately.

NK might nuke my country, Canada?
Lol maybe I don't have to get my life together and shit :D
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No more Hollywood, anime, and heavy hits to hardcore liberalism and the porn industry all sound good. But the iota of compassion I have left for humanity doesn't like the thought of so many lives lost.
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HainoRocks posted...

No more Hollywood, anime, and heavy hits to hardcore liberalism and the porn industry all sound good. But the iota of compassion I have left for humanity doesn't like the thought of so many lives lost.

without japan the video game industry would take a huge hit
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I don't really play games much anymore. *shrug*

And honestly, it'd probably be for the best. Maybe it would get more people out into the world and force them to learn how to properly cope with life and other human beings. Could just be wishful thinking though.
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HainoRocks posted...

I don't really play games much anymore. *shrug*

And honestly, it'd probably be for the best. Maybe it would get more people out into the world and force them to learn how to properly cope with life and other human beings. Could just be wishful thinking though.

Don't know what is worse your logic or thinking those things will happen. Stay in your basement please.

I don't think you should be criticising someone else's logic when your reading comprehension isn't quite up to snuff.
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HainoRocks posted...

No more Hollywood, anime, and heavy hits to hardcore liberalism and the porn industry all sound good. But the iota of compassion I have left for humanity doesn't like the thought of so many lives lost.

So it's okay that millions die because you don't like them? Fuck off.

HainoRocks posted...

I don't really play games much anymore. *shrug*

And honestly, it'd probably be for the best. Maybe it would get more people out into the world and force them to learn how to properly cope with life and other human beings. Could just be wishful thinking though.

Dumbass logic right there. Maybe get some proper opinions based on facts rather than "millions dying will be good because its for the best"

streamofthesky posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

faramir77 posted...

If they use a nuke, it'll be on Seoul and we all know it.

I doubt it. Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

Plus NK still probably thinks it could conquer the South and re-incorporate it to "unify" Korea, and nuclear fallout would make that more difficult for an invading force.
And they still hold a grudge against Japan for previous wars and invasions (but oddly, never a grudge against China for its invasions and meddling of Korea in the past, fancy that...)
And Japan's the country they keep launching missiles over and just this week said should be sunk into the ocean.

I'm really worried for Japan. I have no idea how they're not freaking out about it right now. If i were in Japan, I'd be demanding the gov't do a massive military build-up immediately. Both to try and shoot down missiles (ideally before they even get near Japan) and to launch a devastating counter-attack if NK did attack. U.S. isn't going to do shit to help unless a base of ours in Japan is directly attacked, unfortunately.

The U.S. would have to intervene if Japan is attacked. We would have no choice because of treaties. If Trump refuses to help, then we will look weak as a nation.
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1. Funny how you bolded the first sentence of my original post and didn't address the second.

2. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/facetious
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Bump
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You really think they can send one to California?
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

This meme again?

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345

https://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/
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What I find the most laughable is that Kim literally vowed to see his nuclear ambitions are met regardless of any sanctions. What's up next? South Korea and America talking about more sanctions. Some fucking geniuses over here... It's a case of accepting the DPRK possessing nuclear weapons and ICMBs or removing them through force. Any other approach is stupid and makes everyone involved look ridiculous.
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HainoRocks posted...

1. Funny how you bolded the first sentence of my original post and didn't address the second.

2. http://www.dictionary.com/browse/facetious

1. Whats to address? Your other shitty point. Oh I'm happy if those things die but I would kinda feel bad so maybe not.

2. "I got called out so I was being facetious." Quit being a edgelord.

TheCyborgNinja posted...

What I find the most laughable is that Kim literally vowed to see his nuclear ambitions are met regardless of any sanctions. What's up next? South Korea and America talking about more sanctions. Some fucking geniuses over here... It's a case of accepting the DPRK possessing nuclear weapons and ICMBs or removing them through force. Any other approach is stupid and makes everyone involved look ridiculous.

The only real sanctions that are going to matter are Chinese ones. They are basically the lifeline of NK, if China doesn't stop them, no one will. Russia only takes slave labour from NK and already is floundering economically.

Miroku_of_Nite1 posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

This meme again?

http://nationalinterest.org/blog/the-buzz/could-north-korea-annihilate-seoul-its-artillery-20345

https://nautilus.org/napsnet/napsnet-special-reports/mind-the-gap-between-rhetoric-and-reality/

Nothing in those articles disproves my statement. Basically all they say is that the North would lose any war (which is what anyone with a brain stem would admit, and even North Korea would realize this is the case, which is why there would be no reason to withdraw artillery back to a safe point which wouldn't exist).

There is no way in Odin's bearded blue balls they have the technology to fire a missile across the pacific ocean.

Dash_Harber posted...

There is no way in Odin's bearded blue balls they have the technology to fire a missile across the pacific ocean.

US Intelligence believes that the NK-20 coverage area would include the US West Coast, Chicago, and possibly even New York with a substantially reduced payload.
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Foppe posted...

Dash_Harber posted...

There is no way in Odin's bearded blue balls they have the technology to fire a missile across the pacific ocean.

US Intelligence believes that the NK-20 coverage area would include the US West Coast, Chicago, and possibly even New York with a substantially reduced payload.

It's not the explosion I question, it's actually getting across the fucking Pacific Ocean.

If NK actually attacked anyone, they'd be wiped off the planet faster than you could blink an eye. China confirmed that they would abandon NK to its fate if it happened.

No ones nuking anyone
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

My coworker and I briefly talked about this. He said we just recently sent in a bunch of new equipment to augment South Korea's defense. I wasn't sure if he meant the THAAD weapon system or something else but when I asked if said defenses can stop artillery shells he said yes.

I'm not that savvy when it comes to military weapons but conventional artillery are just explosive shells, aren't they? What would actually intercept a slug of metal loaded with explosives?
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InfestedAdam posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

Seoul is already targeted with enormous amounts of conventional artillery that would level the city in a second.

My coworker and I briefly talked about this. He said we just recently sent in a bunch of new equipment to augment South Korea's defense. I wasn't sure if he meant the THAAD weapon system or something else but when I asked if said defenses can stop artillery shells he said yes.

I'm not that savvy when it comes to military weapons but conventional artillery are just explosive shells, aren't they? What would actually intercept a slug of metal loaded with explosives?

There are lasers and rail guns which can do it. Problem is that if they decide to do an "all out" attack then they aren't going to be able to shoot them all down. They are really only designed to take them out one at a time.
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