Board 8 > would you rather be a 1 in your gender, or a 10 in the opposite?

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SantaRPidgey
09/12/17 2:43:41 PM
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the ol' "Nintendo Switch"







Thinking about the concept of dsyphoria
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LeonhartFour
09/12/17 2:44:39 PM
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thankfully being an ugly man doesn't doom you so I'll stick with being a 1
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banananor
09/12/17 2:47:02 PM
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So basically, being either cursed with extreme ugliness, frailty and an addled mind (what I would consider a 1), or...

Swapping genders

Seems like an easy choice to me
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MariaTaylor
09/12/17 2:47:26 PM
#4:


that last poll option inclusiveness

<3
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velocycloraptor
09/12/17 2:47:41 PM
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Well I think we all know being hot is all that matters so easy choice
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SantaRPidgey
09/12/17 2:50:01 PM
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banananor posted...
So basically, being either cursed with extreme ugliness, frailty and an addled mind (what I would consider a 1), or...

Swapping genders

Seems like an easy choice to me


yeah you're free to define one and ten as you would typically think of them
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Nanis23
09/12/17 2:53:40 PM
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A hot woman life is easy-mode
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SantaRPidgey
09/12/17 2:56:20 PM
#8:


bt DUBS

the poll options are genders in the first half of the question, and sex in the second half of the question

I guess that's confusing
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EndOfDiscOne
09/12/17 3:19:10 PM
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Hot woman so I could look at my boobs in the mirror
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foolm0r0n
09/12/17 3:20:27 PM
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I would switch to a 10/10 woman so I could cruise through life not having to deal with anything other than thousands of 1/10 men sexually harassing me constantly
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CelesMyUserName
09/12/17 3:20:52 PM
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10 in the opposite this isn't even a question

would help my cosplay game so much
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Lopen
09/12/17 3:25:26 PM
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I'd potentially rather be a hot woman than what I am now, and I don't exactly have low self esteem on that front. Given the choice of downgrading my looks to a 1, which would be torture, vs becoming a hot woman it's a trivial choice. Hell I'd rather become an average looking woman than downgrading to a 1.
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Llarian
09/12/17 3:32:33 PM
#13:


I'm a woman now, and I would switch to being a hot man

Aw, c'mon. I'm the only one?
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 3:36:45 PM
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As it is phrased, swapping to 10/10 is easily the answer I would pick.

If it was just stay exactly as I am now vs swapping to 10/10 female, that'd be a more interesting question and I might have to really think about it, but I think I'd still choose to stay the same.
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MariaTaylor
09/12/17 3:37:08 PM
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Lopen posted...
I'd potentially rather be a hot woman than what I am now, and I don't exactly have low self esteem on that front. Given the choice of downgrading my looks to a 1, which would be torture, vs becoming a hot woman it's a trivial choice. Hell I'd rather become an average looking woman than downgrading to a 1.


yeah a 4/6 or 3/7 split would make this more interesting

a 1/10 split just makes the 10 the obvious choice

I mean do you want to be quasimodo? no? okay then, looks like you're changing genders
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Kenri
09/12/17 3:40:17 PM
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It's a pretty common thread among transgender people that they'd rather be an ugly person of the correct gender than stay closeted. I feel like a lot of people who take the 10 and switch option would end up wanting to switch back pretty quick due to the psychological factors.

Idk what my choice would be, this is a pretty tough question.
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MariaTaylor
09/12/17 3:42:37 PM
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ugly, yes. that's why 4/6 or even 3/7 would be interesting.

1 is like a malformed aberration.
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 3:45:19 PM
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Kenri posted...
It's a pretty common thread among transgender people that they'd rather be an ugly person of the correct gender than stay closeted. I feel like a lot of people who take the 10 and switch option would end up wanting to switch back pretty quick due to the psychological factors.

Idk what my choice would be, this is a pretty tough question.

That was something I considered and is why I think I'd stay exactly the same if that was the choice, but I think accepting/getting used to a female body (while having all the perks being a 10/10 woman would provide) would ultimately be easier and lead to a happier life than being stuck as Quasimodo, as Maria put it.
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foolm0r0n
09/12/17 4:02:24 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
I mean do you want to be quasimodo? no? okay then, looks like you're changing genders

you're still rich though
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MariaTaylor
09/12/17 4:05:44 PM
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what
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CelesMyUserName
09/12/17 4:08:26 PM
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Zylothewolf
09/12/17 4:11:55 PM
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Why would anyone choose to be a 1/10?
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tazzyboyishere
09/12/17 4:19:56 PM
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would be a 10 female and lez out on other 10 females like in the porns i watch
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Lopen
09/12/17 4:24:06 PM
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I mean, swapping genders may create various psychological problems but being some manner of eldritch horror of the correct gender would as well. It's still a pretty mindless choice.
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 4:25:20 PM
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I guess one thing people should be wondering about is if their sexuality stays the same or also makes a swap. As in, a straight man becomes a straight woman and thus they're suddenly into dudes.
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SantaRPidgey
09/12/17 4:26:37 PM
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Kenri posted...
It's a pretty common thread among transgender people that they'd rather be an ugly person of the correct gender than stay closeted. I feel like a lot of people who take the 10 and switch option would end up wanting to switch back pretty quick due to the psychological factors.

Idk what my choice would be, this is a pretty tough question.


Pretty much why I was wondering. As a cis person I feel I could do pretty well in both genders/sexes without it mattering too much to me, which is why I'm wondering if dysphoria is just a general discomfort in self more than it is gender.

not that these poll results point a figure in any particular direction.
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Robazoid
09/12/17 4:27:57 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
I guess one thing people should be wondering about is if their sexuality stays the same or also makes a swap. As in, a straight man becomes a straight woman and thus they're suddenly into dudes.

That's fine. As a 10/10 woman I'll be able to land a handsome, rich doctor or something
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CelesMyUserName
09/12/17 4:33:57 PM
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I'd imagine this swap doesn't change your sexual preference

ie you if you're planning to bag a rich doctor I hope you're already prepared for the rich doctor dick
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azuarc
09/12/17 4:41:38 PM
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Wouldn't need to be 10/10 to convince me to try the fairer sex. If I could slide into being female without any difficulties (not needing to learn how to be female, not showing any signs of having previously been male, no transition time, etc) I might very well do it.
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foolm0r0n
09/12/17 4:45:55 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
what

ugly but rich
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foolm0r0n
09/12/17 4:47:09 PM
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Also y'all are exaggerating by saying a 1 is some deformed monstrosity. That would be like saying 10 is some celestial god-being that vaporizes mortals on sight.
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KommunistKoala
09/12/17 4:49:11 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Also y'all are exaggerating by saying a 1 is some deformed monstrosity. That would be like saying 10 is some celestial god-being that vaporizes mortals on sight.

guess you haven't seen a 10
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 4:50:16 PM
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foolm0r0n posted...
Also y'all are exaggerating by saying a 1 is some deformed monstrosity. That would be like saying 10 is some celestial god-being that vaporizes mortals on sight.

Santa specifically said 1 and 10 are whatever you personally think 1 and 10 mean.
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MariaTaylor
09/12/17 4:53:48 PM
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give me a 10 point scale and I'll use every point

1 is the absolute bottom, that means something to me

also sorry to disappoint you but I am not rich nor have I ever been rich. I lived below the poverty line for my entire childhood and some portion of my adult life. I had to work very hard just to end up where I am now, and I'm not even anywhere near well off. if you have some perception of me as being rich not only do I have no idea where you'd get that impression, but you really almost could not be further from the truth.
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JetJaguar
09/12/17 4:55:07 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
foolm0r0n posted...
Also y'all are exaggerating by saying a 1 is some deformed monstrosity. That would be like saying 10 is some celestial god-being that vaporizes mortals on sight.

Santa specifically said 1 and 10 are whatever you personally think 1 and 10 mean.


Uh if Brian Peppers isn't a 1 then what is he?
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Paratroopa1
09/12/17 5:01:26 PM
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I don't think y'all are gonna have to worry about your sexuality changing, either you like what you like and nothing changes, or you'll find out that you were into something you didn't know you liked, either way it's going to work out and it's not going to be the result of a gender swap

The "this could be as bad for you as it is for transgender people right now" thing is interesting though

I'd still switch
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foolm0r0n
09/12/17 5:11:17 PM
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MariaTaylor posted...
also sorry to disappoint you but I am not rich nor have I ever been rich. I lived below the poverty line for my entire childhood and some portion of my adult life. I had to work very hard just to end up where I am now, and I'm not even anywhere near well off. if you have some perception of me as being rich not only do I have no idea where you'd get that impression, but you really almost could not be further from the truth.

I'm just saying being ugly doesn't preclude you from being rich and getting most of the benefits anyways
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WoIfOfLight
09/12/17 5:51:26 PM
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Hey guys, i'm the void what's up
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 6:02:56 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
or you'll find out that you were into something you didn't know you liked

Theoretically this sounds simple, but in practice it could be just as psychologically alarming as being in a different body. Like someone who's used to thinking of themselves as a 100% straight guy now being a woman who's attracted to guys all of a sudden? That could easily be extremely confusing and disorienting and offputting to "him".

I mean yeah if it's a matter of a straight guy becoming a gay woman then whatever there's no issue, but the hypothetical doesn't specifically say that's going to be the case.
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Paratroopa1
09/12/17 6:07:51 PM
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All I'll say is that I don't think discovering your own sexuality is something that should be inherently psychologically alarming
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 6:16:29 PM
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I just feel like there'd be a significant difference between it happening naturally at puberty and a sudden 180 change overnight as an adult.

And I also think that as a gay man, you might have a different perspective on it than straight people would, since you've already had experience with questioning your sexuality and coming to terms with who you are. Someone who's always been the "norm" and never had to question themselves suddenly being met with something like this could be set to receive a bigger shock.
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Paratroopa1
09/12/17 6:26:42 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
I just feel like there'd be a significant difference between it happening naturally at puberty and a sudden 180 change overnight as an adult.

And I also think that as a gay man, you might have a different perspective on it than straight people would, since you've already had experience with questioning your sexuality and coming to terms with who you are. Someone who's always been the "norm" and never had to question themselves suddenly being met with something like this could be set to receive a bigger shock.

I mean I think changing your gender suddenly like that might be a pretty big shock, I just don't think the sexuality thing is going to be a big problem because that isn't going to suddenly change. I'm not special for being in the situation of questioning my own sexuality, other people can do that too without psychological trauma, I think that only really occurs if other people have convinced you or you've convinced yourself that it should be shocking
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 6:32:20 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
I just don't think the sexuality thing is going to be a big problem because that isn't going to suddenly change.

Well I mean if it doesn't change then obviously there's no problem but this whole part of debate is on the premise that it does change. The hypothetical doesn't say one way or the other.

Paratroopa1 posted...
I'm not special for being in the situation of questioning my own sexuality, other people can do that too without psychological trauma,

Of course they can, but for most straight people I imagine they've never had to before, so this situation would be something entirely new for them.
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Paratroopa1
09/12/17 6:35:50 PM
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mnkboy907 posted...
Well I mean if it doesn't change then obviously there's no problem but this whole part of debate is on the premise that it does change. The hypothetical doesn't say one way or the other.

I just don't really see why it would, sexuality isn't like automatically contingent on your gender - there's a decent chance that it would change your perspectives but I don't see why it would be immediate, that's like saying if you turned into a woman you would automatically want to wear dresses or you would automatically enjoy chick flicks. Doesn't really follow as far as I'm concerned, and it probably wouldn't be shocking unless you've really psyched yourself up to be shocked by it (in which case, I would probably recommend against the gender switch)

Of course they can, but for most straight people I imagine they've never had to before, so this situation would be something entirely new for them.

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DoctorBIind
09/12/17 6:42:17 PM
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I'm a straight guy, but I'd probably swap even if I stayed at the same level of attractiveness I currently am tbqh. What a unique opportunity!
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mnkboy907
09/12/17 6:48:46 PM
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Paratroopa1 posted...
I just don't really see why it would, sexuality isn't like automatically contingent on your gender - there's a decent chance that it would change your perspectives but I don't see why it would be immediate, that's like saying if you turned into a woman you would automatically want to wear dresses or you would automatically enjoy chick flicks. Doesn't really follow as far as I'm concerned, and it probably wouldn't be shocking unless you've really psyched yourself up to be shocked by it (in which case, I would probably recommend against the gender switch)

This whole situation is magic. It could just be as simple as a straight man turning into a straight woman. A gay woman turning into a gay man. Logic doesn't have to play into it.

Paratroopa1 posted...
It was new to me once too

Yeah, that's why I said you have experience with the subject and could have a different perspective.
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ChaosTonyV4
09/12/17 6:50:28 PM
#48:


If I was a 10 woman I'd deffo be a slut.
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EndOfDiscOne
09/12/17 6:59:51 PM
#49:


ChaosTonyV4 posted...
If I was a 10 woman I'd deffo be a slut.


This. Give me all the doctor dicks.
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Dark Young Link
09/12/17 7:09:47 PM
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Being a 10/10 woman sounds good.

But at the same time I feel like it would be a major pain dealing with a punch of people who insincerely hit on you.
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EndOfDiscOne
09/12/17 7:11:06 PM
#51:


Dark Young Link posted...
I feel like it would be a major pain dealing with a punch of people who insincerely hit on you.


It's not too bad
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