Poll of the Day > Pewdiepie is Swedesh, nonAmericans don't understand the concecuences of the word

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Whenever you argee whit the use of the word or not, most non americans do not understand what whe word actually means for americans so they think is just something cool people say on TV....so the blowback to Pewdiepie is exagerated

What's Swedesh?
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This reminds me of the people defending Schwartz Pete on NeoGAF who claimed that "blackface is only offensive in America."
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He moved from Sweden a long time ago.
That said, cultural differences exist.
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I have no idea what word, but I'm assuming it's the "big one." Frankly, that has no real cultural significance outside of the USA. People won't be sensitive to an issue where there is no personal or societal relevance.
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Swedish people are aware of the connotations of the word. Pewdiepie fucked up really, really badly and there's no defending that.
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What's the cipher that unlocks this thread?

People cuss at their monitors all the time; they're just synonyms for asinine.
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I feel when you have 54 million subscribers (most of them Americans), you really can't use that as an excuse anymore.
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

I have no idea what word, but I'm assuming it's the "big one." Frankly, that has no real cultural significance outside of the USA. People won't be sensitive to an issue where there is no personal or societal relevance.

Lol please stop. There is no excuse for such ignorance in this day and age when we have the Internet and all of the knowledge in the world at our fingertips. It's clear that he knew what the word was because he apologized RIGHT AFTER... and to use cultural ignorance is a obvious scapegoat to cover your ass, so don't even with that shit
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TheCyborgNinja posted...

Frankly, that has no real cultural significance outside of the USA. People won't be sensitive to an issue where there is no personal or societal relevance.

When white people are treated as slavers world wide, associated issues traverse too.

There's also the obvious part that malice is malicious, you can't say something meant to be shitty knowing what it means and just handwave it away with cultural boundaries. Rape is accepted in many cultures but we don't just accept that as fine.
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"concecuences"
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Is this metal_gear_link, your_daddie?

Those typos.
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NeoSioType posted...

What's the cipher that unlocks this thread?

I've been trying a few. ROT13 got me nothing and it's definitely not a simple Caesar cipher. I was gonna start running it through some phonetic tests, like how "we" is phonetically backwards from "you" (try saying them alternatingly and you'll feel the rhythm).
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He isn't some idiot who doesn't know things, he knows it's a word that will drum up drama.
Yes he said it as a reaction, but you still need to allow that word into your vocabulary for it to come up in the first place.

Plus children watch him, I don't care about his feelings, he can suck it up.

you could make an argument he doesn't realize the effect of that word

but you can't make an argument that he doesn't know the effect of the phrase "kill all jews", which is what lost his disney sponsorship.
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helIy posted...

you could make an argument he doesn't realize the effect of that word

He's on the internet and has been for over two years, he knows what that word means.

THIS JUST IN.

Only Americans know that the N word is bad.

Jail all Australians for normalizing the C word
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Wait a darn toot'n second, have you idiots even watched the dumb clip?
The quote is, "what a f***ing n*****, jheeze oh my god, sorry but what the f***".
Clearly the "sorry but" is pointing to saying the n word.

Swedish is my city
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People know what words are, but I challenge all a yalls that you've never called your computer stupid or gay or "special" or any other number of slurs... particularly Jewish ones (i hear that one the most lately)
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i mean. i feel like it's not a big deal....at all.

idubbz says it a lot. plenty of youtubers have said it in their videos. plenty of comedians have said it.

oh and real people say it in real life too. and no ones died from saying it...unless you include people being killed for saying it.
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It all depends the context a word is said in as to if it's "offensive" or not. Personally I don't see the problem. However I am a white, British, cis male so I don't get offended easy.
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Look, I cuss all the time, including the use of that word. What are curse words anyway? Words we're not supposed to say.

But when I do, I never actually use it as a negative connotation against black people in general. In fact I'd never call anyone black that word, online or not, because I just don't mean it that way. I usually use it for filthy skinny white boys, lol. It is what it is. So I can appreciate with Pewdiepie is just slipped out and he didn't mean it in a racist way, just as a curse word. Of course, he was livestreaming himself and has a fanbase of millions, so he needs to be far more careful than I would.
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That's amusing. Now I'm actually going to see what dumb shit pewdiepie did this time.

SunWuKung420 posted...

Is this metal_gear_link, your_daddie?

Those typos.

Yes. I have tried to help this board by saying "yourDaddie topic" every time he makes one.

Oh, he said the N-word?

"What a f**king n*****! Geez! Oh my god! What the f**k? Sorry, but what the f***?"

Yeah, he's basically marketing Tourettes, so I don't know why anyone is surprised. I've heard him say the N-word a couple other times over the last couple years.

The funny part is that he said "what a fucking n*****" and the corrected himself to "what a fucking asshole". Like he's not even being coy about it, why are people trying to excuse a grown-ass man saying racist shit? You don't have to stop being his fan, but just realize that you're tacitly accepting racism instead of trying to pretend it somehow isn't.
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DrChocolate posted...

Whenever you argee whit the use of the word or not, most non americans do not understand what whe word actually means for americans so they think is just something cool people say on TV....so the blowback to Pewdiepie is exagerated

That's crap. He's been involved in american and international culture long enough and would be well aware of the social implications/nuance of that word in the same way most other countries are.
I get it, you're a fan and don't want to admit to yourself that the person you like might not share your values but guess what-you only like the persona they portray and have no idea who this guy really is.
Stop thinking celebrities are your friends or that they're anything like the person you see on the screen, people.
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The OUTRAGE!
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the worst i can see happenening is him being banned from twitch?

well you clearly aren't from anywhere where English is the primary language... "Swedesh" "concecuences"....
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It's always fun when Europeans remind everyone else about how there's no racism in Europe. Just like there are no cats in America =P

Lokarin posted...

People know what words are, but I challenge all a yalls that you've never called your computer stupid or gay or "special" or any other number of slurs... particularly Jewish ones (i hear that one the most lately)

There's a bit of a difference between yelling "stupid" and yelling the n-word at your computer.
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Wait wait wait...

There is a country other than the U.S.?

dioxxys posted...

the worst i can see happenening is him being banned from twitch?

If Twitch is anything like Youtube their biggest money makers are given special protections so they can keep making them lots of money.
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Syntheticon posted...

DrChocolate posted...

Whenever you argee whit the use of the word or not, most non americans do not understand what whe word actually means for americans so they think is just something cool people say on TV....so the blowback to Pewdiepie is exagerated

That's crap. He's been involved in american and international culture long enough and would be well aware of the social implications/nuance of that word in the same way most other countries are.
I get it, you're a fan and don't want to admit to yourself that the person you like might not share your values but guess what-you only like the persona they portray and have no idea who this guy really is.
Stop thinking celebrities are your friends or that they're anything like the person you see on the screen, people.

While you are correct that he should know about how bad the word is in NA, which he does seeing that he said excuse directly after, it is not all black and white.
He grew up in a culture where the N-word wasnt offensive until recently.
Chokladboll is a popular unbaked pastry which is basically small black oatmeal balls rolled in shredded coconut. The old name was N-word balls. Heck, Donald Ducks Cooking book even called them N-word balls.
Mintkisses are a confectionery that is popular at Christmas, which old name is N-word kisses.
Pippi Longstocking is a popular childbook character that is even known in the states. Her father was a sailor that shipwrecked on some African island and the natives made him a chief, thereby Pippi called him a N-word Chief.
You can still find Tintin in the Congo in libraries.
I can think of multiple big movies where the word is used. I can think of one movie where a black team of basketball players holds a N-word ball and asks a nervous father what they call it.
And nobody was offended. No protests, no news reports, no letters to the editor, no online petitions, no talk about banning something, nothing at all. If a black person was asked about what they thought about the N-word ball name, they just laughed at it.
It wasnt until white SJWs whined in the middle of 2000 that it started to change. People that grew up with the N-word balls name still use them, simply because it wasnt offensive when they were young and it is like giving the finger to SJWs.
In Sweden, the n-word simply meant a dark-skinned person on pair or close to the color of native Africans. It wasnt offensive. If you wanted an offensive word, then you used the word "blatte", which is basically "wog".
That is the culture that he grew up with.
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well he didnt use the word with people who "grew up" using it wrongly. he used it on a youtube stream

just because something isn't considered bad in your culture doesnt mean it isn't wrong.
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I love the people defending it. Hilarious.

Foppe posted...

While you are correct that he should know about how bad the word is in NA, which he does seeing that he said excuse directly after, it is not all black and white.
He grew up in a culture where the N-word wasnt offensive until recently.
Chokladboll is a popular unbaked pastry which is basically small black oatmeal balls rolled in shredded coconut. The old name was N-word balls. Heck, Donald Ducks Cooking book even called them N-word balls.
Mintkisses are a confectionery that is popular at Christmas, which old name is N-word kisses.
Pippi Longstocking is a popular childbook character that is even known in the states. Her father was a sailor that shipwrecked on some African island and the natives made him a chief, thereby Pippi called him a N-word Chief.
You can still find Tintin in the Congo in libraries.
I can think of multiple big movies where the word is used. I can think of one movie where a black team of basketball players holds a N-word ball and asks a nervous father what they call it.
And nobody was offended. No protests, no news reports, no letters to the editor, no online petitions, no talk about banning something, nothing at all. If a black person was asked about what they thought about the N-word ball name, they just laughed at it.
It wasnt until white SJWs whined in the middle of 2000 that it started to change. People that grew up with the N-word balls name still use them, simply because it wasnt offensive when they were young and it is like giving the finger to SJWs.
In Sweden, the n-word simply meant a dark-skinned person on pair or close to the color of native Africans. It wasnt offensive. If you wanted an offensive word, then you used the word "blatte", which is basically "wog".
That is the culture that he grew up with.

Shut the fuck up.

Who the fuck cares? "Oh noes, somebody said a naughty word!"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-8yLB1KA9Y
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ClarkDuke posted...

What's Swedesh?

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Lil69Leo posted...

I love the people defending it. Hilarious.

I swear it's fucking insane what people will go out of their way to look stupid to defend some inexcusable shit.
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XlaxJynx007 posted...

Who the fuck cares? "Oh noes, somebody said a naughty word!"

Some folk love drama. I assume it's because it gives them attention. On that note Pewdiepie became a millionaire over it so eh whatever works I guess.
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wwinterj25 posted...

XlaxJynx007 posted...

Who the fuck cares? "Oh noes, somebody said a naughty word!"

Some folk love drama. I assume it's because it gives them attention. On that note Pewdiepie became a millionaire over it so eh whatever works I guess.

Willful ignorance like this is the reason we still have so many problems in the world.
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EvilMegas posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

XlaxJynx007 posted...

Who the fuck cares? "Oh noes, somebody said a naughty word!"

Some folk love drama. I assume it's because it gives them attention. On that note Pewdiepie became a millionaire over it so eh whatever works I guess.

Willful ignorance like this is the reason we still have so many problems in the world.

People making mountains out of molehills is why we have so many problems in the world.
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YuiHirasawa posted...

The funny part is that he said "what a fucking n*****" and the corrected himself to "what a fucking asshole". Like he's not even being coy about it, why are people trying to excuse a grown-ass man saying racist shit? You don't have to stop being his fan, but just realize that you're tacitly accepting racism instead of trying to pretend it somehow isn't.

cry about lmao
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