Poll of the Day > If someone accepts Gay Marriage but NOT in their Family, Are they Anti-Gay???

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mrduckbear
09/09/17 10:15:09 PM
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If a person can accept other gay people marrying but NOT from their own family, are they anti-gay?


As in, let's suppose someone says they accept gay marriage and they are okay with gay people marrying..however they will NOT accept anyone in their family being gay, does that make them anti-gay?

You'd be surprised at how many people who think it DOESN'T...

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dioxxys
09/09/17 10:15:48 PM
#2:


mrduckbear posted...
As in, let's suppose someone says they accept gay marriage and they are okay with gay people marrying..however they will NOT accept anyone in their family being gay, does that make them anti-gay?

lol who would do that
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Kyuubi4269
09/09/17 10:17:13 PM
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Depends on the amount of importance their lineage has. Gotta keep the bloodline goin' somehow.
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mooreandrew58
09/09/17 10:23:47 PM
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dioxxys posted...
mrduckbear posted...
As in, let's suppose someone says they accept gay marriage and they are okay with gay people marrying..however they will NOT accept anyone in their family being gay, does that make them anti-gay?

lol who would do that


my grandmother. she was exactly like this, don't know if she supported gay marriage, but her best friend was gay, but she'd feign illness of the mere idea a family member was gay.

was hilarious too as this said lesbian my mom had brought over happened to be emt and immediately jumped up started taking her vitals and shit so now she had this woman making physical contact with her.

my grandmother was odd like that on a few issues. like apparently my mom had several friends who got pregnant as teens and my grandmother would be totally supportive of them but when my mom as an adult got pregnant without being married she lost her shit.

guess what it boiled down too was she didn't mind being people as what she perceived to be "flawed" but didn't want her family to be like that
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Lokarin
09/09/17 10:27:35 PM
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As the laws are currently you can lose out on dynastic inheritance via a gay marriage... still need to fight for true equality.
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yutterh
09/09/17 11:08:37 PM
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Their is nothing wrong with that. People have different standards for there family. Like some people want their kids to live a certain life style. Every has different ways of raising their kids.
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RIP_Supa
09/09/17 11:10:28 PM
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There is someone in my family named Gay, so with that in mind, at no point in time should anyone consider me as anti-Gay.
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gguirao
09/10/17 1:24:51 PM
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Yes.
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adjl
09/10/17 1:32:30 PM
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If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
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wwinterj25
09/10/17 1:33:25 PM
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mrduckbear posted...
If a person can accept other gay people marrying but NOT from their own family, are they anti-gay?

Nope as they accept gay marriage in general.
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Zeus
09/10/17 1:33:49 PM
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Considering that not accepting gay marriage doesn't make you gay any more than thinking white people shouldn't wear dreads doesn't make you anti-white...
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mooreandrew58
09/10/17 1:35:15 PM
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Zeus posted...
Considering that not accepting gay marriage doesn't make you gay any more than thinking white people shouldn't wear dreads doesn't make you anti-white...


I think dreads just look stupid on white people. but at the same time I feel people have a right to look as stupid as they please.
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dioxxys
09/10/17 10:13:53 PM
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I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.

Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.
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Quol
09/10/17 10:16:32 PM
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If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.
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mooreandrew58
09/10/17 10:18:05 PM
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dioxxys posted...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.

Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.


let me be more specific I hate blondes with dreads. something about the blonde hair just looks really off to me.
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RIP_Supa
09/11/17 8:59:26 PM
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Quol posted...
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.

What if someone is anti-gay as you have described, but doesn't have any problem with talking to/associating with/treating a gay person like any other normal person, except for the fact that they still have to take into consideration that person is a homosexual?

Does that just make them a wannabe anti-gay?

Flamboyancy not being a factor in this consideration, I will admit my anti-flamboyancy. Cause even dudes from the hood that take it too far trying to appear "hard" (plz no lame puns) or "fly" are flamboyant in that regard, and anyone flamboyant is usually annoying.
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Zeus
09/11/17 9:01:29 PM
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Quol posted...
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.


???

mooreandrew58 posted...
dioxxys posted...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.

Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.


let me be more specific I hate blondes with dreads. something about the blonde hair just looks really off to me.


Are you sure you're not confusing it for cornrows? Because cornrows can look okay on surfer and beach chicks.
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Mead
09/11/17 9:10:32 PM
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Zeus posted...
Because cornrows can look okay on surfer and beach chicks.


Lol gross
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:00:44 PM
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Zeus posted...
Quol posted...
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.


???

mooreandrew58 posted...
dioxxys posted...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.

Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.


let me be more specific I hate blondes with dreads. something about the blonde hair just looks really off to me.


Are you sure you're not confusing it for cornrows? Because cornrows can look okay on surfer and beach chicks.


both actually now that you mention it. though corn rows is worse. I know people have preferences and differing opinions, such a odd concept.
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Troll_Police_
09/13/17 2:02:13 PM
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RIP_Supa posted...
There is someone in my family named Gay, so with that in mind, at no point in time should anyone consider me as anti-Gay.


@RIP_Supa

I have an uncle named Gay as well. I cant imagine its an extremely common name these days, so i gotta ask

does he by chance hail from ND?
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:05:11 PM
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Troll_Police_ posted...
RIP_Supa posted...
There is someone in my family named Gay, so with that in mind, at no point in time should anyone consider me as anti-Gay.


@RIP_Supa

I have an uncle named Gay as well. I cant imagine its an extremely common name these days, so i gotta ask

does he by chance hail from ND?


it can also be a last name. though if I had to be stuck with gay as a last name i'd rather have the bit more uncommon last name of "gaylord"
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Alexandra_Trent
09/13/17 2:06:09 PM
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adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:08:32 PM
#23:


Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.


I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.
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Lsnake
09/13/17 2:10:24 PM
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While I do find it hypocritical, you actually have to respect that when it comes to family, there's usually a larger point of view than just yourself. Family is complicated as hell.

I could actually see someone being fine having gay friends and supporting gay people, while still wanting a traditional marriage in their family, but I do think that would be more a group pressure if the rest of the family opposed it as well. I still think you should stand up to them and defend any gay person, but I'd understand if it was hard fighting your family. Personally, I'd take the side of the gay person (A brother, sister, whoever it was). Human rights should always come first, even over family and obligations and traditions.

I wouldn't refuse a gay family member, heck, if my own father came out and said he was gay, I'd support him and his decisions. I may be a cynical bastard but if there's one thing I do truly believe in and stand for, it's equal rights and personal freedom to be and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:14:34 PM
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Lsnake posted...
While I do find it hypocritical, you actually have to respect that when it comes to family, there's usually a larger point of view than just yourself. Family is complicated as hell.

I could actually see someone being fine having gay friends and supporting gay people, while still wanting a traditional marriage in their family, but I do think that would be more a group pressure if the rest of the family opposed it as well. I still think you should stand up to them and defend any gay person, but I'd understand if it was hard fighting your family. Personally, I'd take the side of the gay person (A brother, sister, whoever it was). Human rights should always come first, even over family and obligations and traditions.

I wouldn't refuse a gay family member, heck, if my own father came out and said he was gay, I'd support him and his decisions. I may be a cynical bastard but if there's one thing I do truly believe in and stand for, it's equal rights and personal freedom to be and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.


yeah at least with my grandmother she wouldn't push away said family member, she'd just ignore it and never bring it up again lol
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Alexandra_Trent
09/13/17 2:17:56 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.


I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.


It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.

People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.

And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:20:09 PM
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Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.


I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.


It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.

People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.

And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."


I actually don't know how she felt about more distant relatives, i've only seen that behavior with close family members, but she was that way on more than one issue as I earlier posted about her being supportive of my moms teen and pregnant friends but lost her shit when my mom got pregnant at 20 but was unmarried.

as I said I feel it was her Christianity which does basically boil down to what you said about not in my backyard
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Alexandra_Trent
09/13/17 2:25:23 PM
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mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.


I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.


It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.

People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.

And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."


I actually don't know how she felt about more distant relatives, i've only seen that behavior with close family members, but she was that way on more than one issue as I earlier posted about her being supportive of my moms teen and pregnant friends but lost her shit when my mom got pregnant at 20 but was unmarried.

as I said I feel it was her Christianity which does basically boil down to what you said about not in my backyard


Yup. That's right. She was upset because it happened to her daughter. Her daughter's friends and their "misfortunes" are sad but not her concern so while she will sympathise with them, in the end, she won't care.
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:27:51 PM
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Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.


Exactly.

Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.


I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.


It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.

People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.

And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."


I actually don't know how she felt about more distant relatives, i've only seen that behavior with close family members, but she was that way on more than one issue as I earlier posted about her being supportive of my moms teen and pregnant friends but lost her shit when my mom got pregnant at 20 but was unmarried.

as I said I feel it was her Christianity which does basically boil down to what you said about not in my backyard


Yup. That's right. She was upset because it happened to her daughter. Her daughter's friends and their "misfortunes" are sad but not her concern so while she will sympathise with them, in the end, she won't care.


come to think of it too, she was always always nice when around non family. she only ever showed anger or other emotions period when around only family with a few exceptions naturally. over all she was a good woman, but had her flaws
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Gamechamp3k
09/13/17 2:29:38 PM
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Kyuubi4269 posted...
Depends on the amount of importance their lineage has. Gotta keep the bloodline goin' somehow.

Yeah, in that case they're not so much anti-gay as they are selfish. They're not mad at the person for being gay, they're mad at them for not making babies for their own personal gain.
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mooreandrew58
09/13/17 2:31:56 PM
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Gamechamp3k posted...
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Depends on the amount of importance their lineage has. Gotta keep the bloodline goin' somehow.

Yeah, in that case they're not so much anti-gay as they are selfish. They're not mad at the person for being gay, they're mad at them for not making babies for their own personal gain.


well they shoulda had more kids themselves then. whenever my mom looks to me and says I wanna another grandkid, I tell her to go talk to my brother cause with me it just ain't happening.
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