As in, let's suppose someone says they accept gay marriage and they are okay with gay people marrying..however they will NOT accept anyone in their family being gay, does that make them anti-gay?
mrduckbear posted...
As in, let's suppose someone says they accept gay marriage and they are okay with gay people marrying..however they will NOT accept anyone in their family being gay, does that make them anti-gay?
lol who would do that
If a person can accept other gay people marrying but NOT from their own family, are they anti-gay?
Considering that not accepting gay marriage doesn't make you gay any more than thinking white people shouldn't wear dreads doesn't make you anti-white...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.
Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.
dioxxys posted...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.
Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.
let me be more specific I hate blondes with dreads. something about the blonde hair just looks really off to me.
Because cornrows can look okay on surfer and beach chicks.
Quol posted...
If you are against gay then you are anti gay. Honestly i dont see anything wrong with being anti gay (as long as you dont force it on anyone) but at least be honest with yourself.
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mooreandrew58 posted...
dioxxys posted...
I used to think dreads looked stupid on all white people too, but I've seen some really pasty looking skinny white girls that rock it really well.
Also once I saw the most bad ass looking goth couple with all the accessories and night black dreads, it was pretty cool.
let me be more specific I hate blondes with dreads. something about the blonde hair just looks really off to me.
Are you sure you're not confusing it for cornrows? Because cornrows can look okay on surfer and beach chicks.
There is someone in my family named Gay, so with that in mind, at no point in time should anyone consider me as anti-Gay.
RIP_Supa posted...
There is someone in my family named Gay, so with that in mind, at no point in time should anyone consider me as anti-Gay.
@RIP_Supa
I have an uncle named Gay as well. I cant imagine its an extremely common name these days, so i gotta ask
does he by chance hail from ND?
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
Exactly.
Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
While I do find it hypocritical, you actually have to respect that when it comes to family, there's usually a larger point of view than just yourself. Family is complicated as hell.
I could actually see someone being fine having gay friends and supporting gay people, while still wanting a traditional marriage in their family, but I do think that would be more a group pressure if the rest of the family opposed it as well. I still think you should stand up to them and defend any gay person, but I'd understand if it was hard fighting your family. Personally, I'd take the side of the gay person (A brother, sister, whoever it was). Human rights should always come first, even over family and obligations and traditions.
I wouldn't refuse a gay family member, heck, if my own father came out and said he was gay, I'd support him and his decisions. I may be a cynical bastard but if there's one thing I do truly believe in and stand for, it's equal rights and personal freedom to be and do whatever you want as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
Exactly.
Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
Exactly.
Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.
It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.
People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.
And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."
Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
Exactly.
Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.
It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.
People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.
And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."
I actually don't know how she felt about more distant relatives, i've only seen that behavior with close family members, but she was that way on more than one issue as I earlier posted about her being supportive of my moms teen and pregnant friends but lost her shit when my mom got pregnant at 20 but was unmarried.
as I said I feel it was her Christianity which does basically boil down to what you said about not in my backyard
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
mooreandrew58 posted...
Alexandra_Trent posted...
adjl posted...
If you can't accept it in your family, you don't actually accept it in anyone else. You're just able to pretend it doesn't exist elsewhere, and tolerate it that way.
Exactly.
Tolerance is not equal to acceptance.
I just find it odd my grandma's best friend was a gay dude, and she was also friends with his partner, but yet she acted like it was such sin for a family member. but I guess that boils down to her Christianity. love thy neighbor, don't pass judgement etc. but she didn't want her close family to be these supposed sinners cause I guess in her mind she taught them better.
It may be surprising to some, but the fact is, many people do feel this way, deep down.
People tolerate things they don't necessarily agree with personally.
And they can be friends with gays but still be unaccepting of them within their private space (family). This is because they view this as a separate issue and does not have a place in their lives privately. Simply put: "It's okay if it doesn't happen in my backyard."
I actually don't know how she felt about more distant relatives, i've only seen that behavior with close family members, but she was that way on more than one issue as I earlier posted about her being supportive of my moms teen and pregnant friends but lost her shit when my mom got pregnant at 20 but was unmarried.
as I said I feel it was her Christianity which does basically boil down to what you said about not in my backyard
Yup. That's right. She was upset because it happened to her daughter. Her daughter's friends and their "misfortunes" are sad but not her concern so while she will sympathise with them, in the end, she won't care.
Depends on the amount of importance their lineage has. Gotta keep the bloodline goin' somehow.
Kyuubi4269 posted...
Depends on the amount of importance their lineage has. Gotta keep the bloodline goin' somehow.
Yeah, in that case they're not so much anti-gay as they are selfish. They're not mad at the person for being gay, they're mad at them for not making babies for their own personal gain.