Poll of the Day > 19 y/o Nazi Kid Killed his Nazi Friends cause they planned a TERRORIST ATTACK!!!

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mrduckbear
08/23/17 7:46:08 PM
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Do you think neo-nazi groups should be deemed a terrorist group in America?


19 y/o Devon Arthurs, a neo-nazi from Florida was arrseted for the murders of his 2 other neo-nazi roommates because he said they were planning a TERRORIST ATTACK and said he had to do it to save lives!!

The 4 men were all neo-nazis who bonded over the connections as members of a group caleld "Atomwaffen Division"

Devon was a co-founder of the group said he killed them to thwart a terrosit attack they were planning and said "I prevented the deaths of a lot of people" after murdering 18 y/o Andrew Oneschuk and 22 y/o Jeremy Himmelman

21 y/o Brandon Russell, the other roommate who wasn't there at the time was that Florida National Guard duties when the shootings occurred and had no idea about the killings..but Devon said Brandon was IN on it too as he was stockpiling explosives to bomb power lines, nuclear reactors and synagogues

FBI agents have filed explosive charges against Brandon who was dressed in military uniform and crying outside the apartment when Devon lead the officers to the grisly scene

When they asked Devon why they would plan an attack, Devonsaid "Because they want to build a FOURTH REICH".

Inside they found guns, ammunition and bomb making material and a framed picture of Oklahoma bomber Timothy McVeigh.

Atomwaffen is german for "atomic weapon"

The families of the victims insist the 2 men were transitioning to new phases and another member of their group said they were just TROLLS who DELIGHT in provoking outrage with stunts such as the Orlando nightclub shooting and that they are not a "terrorist" group

William Tschantre, one of the members said "I'm a Neo-Nazi. I'm not a monster"

Atomwaffen doesn't have near the numbers as white nationalist and neo-nazi groups in Charlottesville but have been banding together to form a unity bond.

But the FBI said that the murders DID expose evidence of a credible threat as they found BOMB EXPLOSIVES in the cooler, 2 homemade detonator components and several pounds of ammonium nitrate and they found 2 sources of RADIATION detected..

Brandon was then arrested for these kinds of arsenal in their apartment. Brandon said he used this to boost "homemade rockets" but a judge agreed he posed a risk

Kianna Kaizer, the gf of Jeremy said his "political side" was only a small part of his life but acknowledged he had far right views as he believed in NATIONAL SOCIALISM.

Andrew's dad, Walter said he blocked his son's computer when he was 15 from going to sites with racist and anti-semitic content and said he became radicalized after a return from France

The Atomwaffen members however hailed the 2 deceased as "heroes" and that Devon was a "race traitor" who fell out of touch with their ideology. They used "heil hitler" videos to commemorate their fallen friends...

Do you think Neo-Nazi groups should be branded a terrorist group?

Devon - Killed his friends

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/08/23/15/1185433-0-FILE_This_photo_made_available_May_20_2017_by_the_Tampa_Fla_Poli-a-26_1503499306138.jpg

Brandon - Arrested for stockpiling bombs

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/08/23/15/437703FA00000578-0-image-m-25_1503499292448.jpg

Jeremy - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/08/22/19/wire-1185425-1503426431-713_634x839.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/08/22/19/wire-1185423-1503426430-376_634x475.jpg

Andrew - Deceased

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/08/22/19/wire-1185437-1503426446-35_634x1127.jpg

Kianna - Jeremy's gf

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/1/2017/08/22/19/wire-1185427-1503426433-421_634x433.jpg
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Mead
08/23/17 7:51:33 PM
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How did they all find each other?

mrduckbear posted...
from Florida


Oh
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Golden Road
08/23/17 7:53:28 PM
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I'm a little confused why he became a Nazi if he didn't want to kill people. Did this guy not realize what Nazis actually were, or what? Wanting people killed is kinda' what Nazis are about =/

It's good that he stopped them, I mean, but I'm still confused.
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Hop103
08/23/17 7:58:10 PM
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Golden Road posted...
I'm a little confused why he became a Nazi if he didn't want to kill people. Did this guy not realize what Nazis actually were, or what? Wanting people killed is kinda' what Nazis are about =/

It's good that he stopped them, I mean, but I'm still confused.


Maybe he was just angry with globalization and had no other avenue to turn to. I do think his sentence needs to be reduced with mandatory mental help (at the end of the day he still prevented terrorism), he needs more help than prison time to sort out his life.
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Kyuubi4269
08/23/17 8:06:14 PM
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Golden Road posted...
I'm a little confused why he became a Nazi if he didn't want to kill people. Did this guy not realize what Nazis actually were, or what? Wanting people killed is kinda' what Nazis are about =/

It's good that he stopped them, I mean, but I'm still confused.

No, that's how you view (neo-)Nazis. Much as we have Catholics, Protestants, Methodists, Mormons, Orthodox, strict and loose, people side with political groups for various different reasons and almost universally don't fully agree with the entire image.

For all you know he joined neo-nazis for the same reason the Nazis were voted in pre-war or simply went Nazi because he looked at the current 2 party system and decided "My enemy's enemy is my friend.".
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TheCyborgNinja
08/23/17 10:18:47 PM
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Nazis and Antifa are subservive terrorist groups. Anything willing to violently overthrow a peaceful government is worth being branded treasonous and should be hanged.
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Zeus
08/23/17 10:21:07 PM
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>Title says Nazis
>Actual discussion talks about Neo-Nazis

Thought this was about zombified members of Hitler Youth at first.

Mead posted...
How did they all find each other?

mrduckbear posted...
from Florida


Oh


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Golden Road posted...
I'm a little confused why he became a Nazi if he didn't want to kill people. Did this guy not realize what Nazis actually were, or what? Wanting people killed is kinda' what Nazis are about =/

It's good that he stopped them, I mean, but I'm still confused.


Neo-Nazis, not Nazis.

mrduckbear posted...
Do you think neo-nazi groups should be deemed a terrorist group in America?


Well, they have no real structure supporting terrorist activities nor have any individuals associated with them (well, arguably Fields counts) been involved in terrorist attacks (by contrast, BLM supporters have been linked to massive property damage and the murder of law enforcement, activities which would warrant calling somebody terrorists). Can you have a terrorist group that doesn't actually engage in terrorist attacks? Because that'd be fucking stupid. Granted, the SPLC put Ben Carson on what amounts to a terrorist watch list, so obviously the bar is non-existent.
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Yellow
08/23/17 10:40:01 PM
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streamofthesky
08/23/17 11:43:22 PM
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I recall not long ago Zeus stated he considers anyone who does acts the nazis did, specifically in that case book burning, to be nazis. I pointed out that book burning was done by many dictators in history, at least as far back as ancient China, so it was silly to label someone a nazi based just on one shared characteristic like that, but he persisted.
And now Zeus goes on diatribes when people refer to neo-nazis as nazis. "They not the same thing, guys! Come on!"

It's kind of funny, but mostly sad.

On-topic, I recall reading that Devon came out as gay and shockingly....his nazi (yeah Zeus, they're nazis, get over it) buddies weren't too supportive of it, and that's what caused the rift that led to him turning on them.
In any case, the story involves dead nazis and a thwarted plot to murder innocent people. It's so rare to hear positive stories in the news.
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PKMNsony
08/24/17 12:09:54 AM
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So, she's available then? Nice.
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Cacciato
08/24/17 12:33:09 AM
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TheCyborgNinja posted...
Nazis and Antifa are subservive terrorist groups. Anything willing to violently overthrow a peaceful government is worth being branded treasonous and should be hanged.

Lol
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FourthDimension
08/24/17 1:37:11 AM
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Zeus posted...
Thought this was about zombified members of Hitler Youth at first.

You're not that dense
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