Board 8 > Board 8 Ranks the Gen VII Pokemon, Part Three: The Top 10

(+) Yeah! (+)

Who gives a shit

When is Random Battle League I wanna sign up
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Real talk I've been doing searches for PRBL every day since this ended lmao
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soon

I'm due to be champion this time

You all lack Luster's authorization to discuss Random Battle League in this topic
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swordz9 posted...

I'm due to be champion this time

not if i have 3 bullshit critical hits to say about it

Nah I'm gonna win this time
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If Luster can beat me in a Random Battle then I'll stop.
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swirIdude posted...

Yes, that's right, make the adjustment, Luster.

After applying the adjustment I suggested earlier, this ends up creating 3 new ties in the overall results. The following Pokemon are now tied in the overall results:

Jangmo-o and Golem-A
Dartrix and Drampa
Kartana and Popplio

Those 3 sets of Pokemon finished 1 point apart with swirldude's incorrect list and now they're tied as a result of the adjustment.

I'm wondering what tiebreaker Steiner used in the event of a tie, as was the case with Sandygast/Grubbin and Exeggutor-A/Oricorio
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pyresword posted...

If Luster can beat me in a Random Battle then I'll stop.

ooh, i'll take you up on that
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LusterSoldier posted...

swirIdude posted...

Yes, that's right, make the adjustment, Luster.

After applying the adjustment I suggested earlier, this ends up creating 3 new ties in the overall results. The following Pokemon are now tied in the overall results:

Jangmo-o and Golem-A
Dartrix and Drampa
Kartana and Popplio

Those 3 sets of Pokemon finished 1 point apart with swirldude's incorrect list and now they're tied as a result of the adjustment.

I'm wondering what tiebreaker Steiner used in the event of a tie, as was the case with Sandygast/Grubbin and Exeggutor-A/Oricorio

I am the tiebreaker.

Jangmo-o > Golem-A
Dartrix > Drampa
Popplio > Kartana
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Pokalicious posted...

LusterSoldier posted...

swirIdude posted...

Yes, that's right, make the adjustment, Luster.

After applying the adjustment I suggested earlier, this ends up creating 3 new ties in the overall results. The following Pokemon are now tied in the overall results:

Jangmo-o and Golem-A
Dartrix and Drampa
Kartana and Popplio

Those 3 sets of Pokemon finished 1 point apart with swirldude's incorrect list and now they're tied as a result of the adjustment.

I'm wondering what tiebreaker Steiner used in the event of a tie, as was the case with Sandygast/Grubbin and Exeggutor-A/Oricorio

I am the tiebreaker.

Jangmo-o > Golem-A
Dartrix > Drampa
Popplio > Kartana

thanks
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np
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Pokalicious posted...

pyresword posted...

If Luster can beat me in a Random Battle then I'll stop.

ooh, i'll take you up on that

You are not Luster but feel free to come and find me now if you want. My current username is "Elise Schwarzer".
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I got a replay of the tiebreaker!

http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-603195691

It was the most one sided match of the lot, but still!
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oh god no

lol
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Just accept it. I am clearly a better random battler than you.

Even though you won game 1 and only lost game 2 because of a Hammer Arm miss >.>
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I was dumb to go for the Hammer Arm and not the Earthquake.
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But yeah, Guzzlord with some speed boost is a monster.
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Pokalicious posted...

I was dumb to go for the Hammer Arm and not the Earthquake.

...oh. Uh, yeah that would have done it.

Well actually damage calc says EQ wouldn't have killed itself, but it would have put me low enough so that Ninjask could finish me off the next turn.
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Dragon66116 posted...

Nah I'm gonna win this time

a match?

LusterSoldier posted...

I'm wondering what tiebreaker Steiner used in the event of a tie

STElNER posted...

LusterSoldier posted...

I'm wondering what tiebreaker Steiner used in the event of a tie

The difference is that instead of getting bored by the end and choosing the laziest possible option when your motivation ran out, you were maximally half-assed the whole time.
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woodman posted...

you were maximally half-assed the whole time.

for the 5th time i spent a day of my life making a spreadsheet for you people, get fucked

STElNER posted...

woodman posted...

you were maximally half-assed the whole time.

for the 5th time i spent a day of my life making a spreadsheet for you people, get fucked

Making spreadsheets is half-assing it for you. It's an innate skill.
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STElNER posted...

Did you really flip a coin to break ties?
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i mean not actually, i just sorted the list. you can pretend i flipped a coin though, i definitely would have done.

STElNER posted...

Dragon66116 posted...

Nah I'm gonna win this time

a match?

Hopefully!
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Anyone up for some free for alls? Those are great because you can use weird pokemon
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STElNER posted...

i mean not actually, i just sorted the list. you can pretend i flipped a coin though, i definitely would have done.

Sorting the list takes much less time than flipping a coin, so I can't imagine you would flip a coin for tiebreaker purposes.


Anyways, I'm not going to bother with tiebreaking any of the new ties that were created as a result of adjusting swirldude's list. I'll just keep the rankings as they are right now when I get around to calculating the score each Pokemon would have gotten with the Alolan Forms removed from the list.
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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-605346443
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http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7randombattle-598601695
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Damn you, Ermineeeeeee
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:D
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@PrinceKaro you still wanna battle?
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LusterSoldier posted...

I'll just keep the rankings as they are right now when I get around to calculating the score each Pokemon would have gotten with the Alolan Forms removed from the list.

I haven't gotten around to doing this yet, but I did work on something else in the meantime.


Average Placement for the Alolan Forms for each Person

32.500 - Whiskey Nick
34.667 - MrSmartGuy
39.222 - Anagram
41.833 - arti
43.500 - Steiner
45.167 - xx521xx
45.389 - red13n
46.056 - Terastodon
46.389 - swirldude
47.222 - profDEADPOOL
47.833 - Inviso
48.611 - pyresword
48.611 - VeryInsane
48.667 - starfox2245
49.111 - Dragon66116
49.167 - StifledSilence
49.667 - NFUN
50.889 - th3l3fty
52.889 - cody11533
53.000 - PrinceKaro
53.111 - Xuxon
53.389 - Drakeryn
53.722 - ctes
54.333 - mcflubbin
55.556 - Brayze_II
55.556 - mnkboy907
56.000 - OrangeCrush
56.222 - Paratroopa1
56.667 - JONALEON1
58.444 - ecksgem
59.278 - Luster Soldier
59.444 - FrostHarpy
59.611 - Ermine
59.722 - Cybat
61.500 - IHateThisCPU
62.222 - TexWolf_1729
62.278 - Raka_Putra
62.500 - eddv
64.833 - XIII
65.111 - hotdogturtle
66.444 - ScepterOfLove
77.333 - swordz9


This list is fairly simple. I went and calculated the average placement for the Alolan Forms for every single person that submitted a list.

33 out of 42 people had at least 1 Alolan Form in their Top 10. Only 3 people didn't have a single Alolan Form in their Top 20, with swordz9 not having any Alolan Forms in his Top 50.
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I don't understand how anyone can hate A-Exeggutor.
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Because it's a meme (loses points there) and it's also worse than the normal form.
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A-Exeggutor is fucking beautiful.
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-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Because it's a meme (loses points there) and it's also worse than the normal form.

Would you dock Seaking points?
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Anagram posted...

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Because it's a meme (loses points there) and it's also worse than the normal form.

Would you dock Seaking points?

I wouldn't dock Seaking any points.

For the same reason the phrase "I couldn't care less" is valid.
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Anagram posted...

-hotdogturtle-- posted...

Because it's a meme (loses points there) and it's also worse than the normal form.

Would you dock Seaking points?

Implying that Seaking gets any points to begin with.
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Anagram posted...

I don't understand how anyone can hate A-Exeggutor.

Not really a fan of stupid and ugly memes.
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Made a lot more progress into calculating the score for all of the main Gen VII Pokemon with the Alolan Forms removed. Hopefully I get this completed later today.
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I didn't even know it was a meme, I just think A-Exeggutor's the ugliest in a not endearing way, Pokemon I've ever seen.
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I finally completed the list of the main Gen VII Pokemon with the Alolan Forms removed and the scores recalculated for the remaining Pokemon. Here is the list I ended up getting:

81. Bruxish (Score: 2594)
80. Cosmoem (Score: 2567)
79. Yungoos (Score: 2525)
78. Morelull (Score: 2511)
77. Shiinotic (Score: 2448)
76. Gumshoos (Score: 2347)
75. Brionne (Score: 2342)
74. Wimpod (Score: 2330)
73. Magearna (Score: 2227)
72. Bounsweet (Score: 2207)
71. Comfey (Score: 2178)
70. Fomantis (Score: 2172)
69. Sandygast (Score: 2171)
68. Grubbin (Score: 2157)
67. Dewpider (Score: 2140)
66. Steenee (Score: 2134)
65. Mareanie (Score: 2126)
64. Celesteela (Score: 2118)
63. Togedemaru (Score: 2096)
62. Mudbray (Score: 2089)
61. Trumbeak (Score: 2085)
60. Necrozma (Score: 2044)
59. Pyukumuku (Score: 2034)
58. Crabominable (Score: 2021)
57. Minior (Score: 1998)
56. Pheromosa (Score: 1942)
55. Tapu Bulu (Score: 1940)
54. Jangmo-o (Score: 1913)
53. Tsareena (Score: 1905)
52. Silvally (Score: 1866)
51. Crabrawler (Score: 1847)
50. Guzzlord (Score: 1846)
49. Type: Null (Score: 1820)
48. Xurkitree (Score: 1815)
47. Pikipek (Score: 1814)
46. Dhelmise (Score: 1813)
45. Drampa (Score: 1813)
44. Dartrix (Score: 1811)
43. Nihilego (Score: 1799)
42. Turtonator (Score: 1788)
41. Kartana (Score: 1769)
40. Popplio (Score: 1750)
39. Charjabug (Score: 1747)
38. Marshadow (Score: 1729)
37. Toxapex (Score: 1704)
36. Oranguru (Score: 1675)
35. Komala (Score: 1674)
34. Tapu Lele (Score: 1664)
33. Stufful (Score: 1662)
32. Hakamo-o (Score: 1644)
31. Buzzwole (Score: 1626)
30. Palossand (Score: 1602)
29. Salandit (Score: 1601)
28. Cosmog (Score: 1595)
27. Tapu Fini (Score: 1577)
26. Cutiefly (Score: 1570)
25. Oricorio (Score: 1536)
24. Primarina (Score: 1530)
23. Passimian (Score: 1476)
22. Lurantis (Score: 1470)
21. Kommo-o (Score: 1433)
20. Wishiwashi (Score: 1331)
19. Bewear (Score: 1311)
18. Torracat (Score: 1294)
17. Mudsdale (Score: 1285)
16. Lunala (Score: 1279)
15. Salazzle (Score: 1225)
14. Solgaleo (Score: 1214)
13. Golisopod (Score: 1212)
12. Araquanid (Score: 1184)
11. Toucannon (Score: 1149)
10. Incineroar (Score: 1103)
9. Tapu Koko (Score: 1102)
8. Litten (Score: 1070)
7. Vikavolt (Score: 1062)
6. Ribombee (Score: 1042)
5. Rockruff (Score: 988)
4. Rowlet (Score: 923)
3. Lycanroc (Score: 916)
2. Mimikyu (Score: 775)
1. Decidueye (Score: 590)


Since the Alolan Forms were removed, all of the main Gen VII Pokemon had their scores adjusted downwards since there's only 81 Pokemon remaining instead of 99. Using my own list as an example, I had Bruxish ranked 99th overall, but it becomes my 81st overall after the removal of the Alolan Forms.

The scores for the main Gen VII Pokemon were recalculated by removing the Alolan Forms from everybody's lists and then renumbering the existing Pokemon from 81 to 1, preserving the relative placement of all the Gen VII Pokemon among each other on everybody's lists. I was a bit surprised with the way the new list turned out. I had to double check everybody's lists to make sure I didn't make any mistakes in recalculating the scores for the main Gen VII Pokemon.

In the overall rankings with the Alolan Forms, I thought the relative placement of the main Gen VII Pokemon among each other wouldn't change at all when the Alolan Forms were removed and scores recalculated for the Pokemon that still remain. One example of a change was Rowlet and Lycanroc switching places with each other. This new list had just one tie and the spreadsheet chose to rank Drampa higher than Dhelmise, which is fine by me since Drampa finished higher than Dhelmise in the overall rankings.
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Steiner, would it be okay if the list from the above post was placed onto the Board 8 wiki page for this project? It'll be placed near the bottom of the page.
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no
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th3l3fty posted...

no

You're not Steiner.

Also, this list is just for fun and not intended to be a replacement for the actual list. It's just a hypothetical "what if" list for what the results would have been if we didn't include the Alolan Forms.
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yes
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