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TsunamiXXVIII
06/29/17 8:41:04 PM
#251:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
LIssa leads by 102 million. Priscilla is cutting 18 million of the lead per hour. She'll pass Lissa in about 5 hours. Priscilla isn't gaining fast enough to trigger another boost for Lissa before the match ends so Priscilla will just ride her natural strength advantage over Lissa to the end of the match.


...I obviously know nothing. A pre-Awakening character actually has the natural strength advantage over a character from Awakening or Fates? I know Troubadours have an inherent strength advantage over Clerics, but...I didn't think that THF would be enough to upend the natural strength advantage that being from Awakening or Fates affords.
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Yankees
06/29/17 8:49:28 PM
#252:


Just got my perfect arena run with a 4814 score. That's tentatively good enough to advance to tier 20. Rank 2828 when rank 4019 gets there.

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Team Rocket Elite
06/29/17 10:06:16 PM
#253:


I think you are underestimating FE7 a bit. FE7 was the original FE boom in North America and I think it did pretty well in Japan as well. As long as they aren't picking crazy fights like Lucina, they can be fairly competitive. Also remember that Ephraim beat Leo and Chrom in the first gauntlet. Awakening and Fates are strong but they don't instantly beat just anyone.
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Xuxon
06/29/17 10:15:52 PM
#254:


also i think Sakura would beat Priscilla, and Clarine would lose to everyone, so the horse doesn't have much to do with it. Lissa just isn't that popular compared to some of the other 3DS characters.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/29/17 10:21:27 PM
#255:


I think Sakura is the second strongest of the 8 we got. I'm not sold on Maria beating Clarine but it might be possible.
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Dark Young Link
06/29/17 10:58:03 PM
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Xuxon
06/29/17 11:43:55 PM
#257:


damn, the banner lasts an entire month? they really want me to save up some orbs.
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Dark Young Link
06/30/17 12:15:28 AM
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TsunamiXXVIII
06/30/17 12:33:05 AM
#259:


Team Rocket Elite posted...
I think Sakura is the second strongest of the 8 we got. I'm not sold on Maria beating Clarine but it might be possible.


Probably not. At first I thought that maybe since she's at least had a game released in the US it's a possibility, but that didn't help her against Lachesis so FE1/3/11/12 really is just that weak here.

Don't disagree that Sakura would probably be one of the strongest; I actually expected her to win this outright but I guess Elise is more popular.

Xuxon posted...
also i think Sakura would beat Priscilla, and Clarine would lose to everyone, so the horse doesn't have much to do with it. Lissa just isn't that popular compared to some of the other 3DS characters.


...Doesn't that just reinforce the idea that Awakening should hold more credibility than that? Being a SpotPass character in Awakening is literally the only exposure advantage Lachesis has over Clarine since neither had their game released outside of Japan, but FE6 should have the advantage over FE4, especially where characters directly related to FE7 characters are concerned.

Team Rocket Elite posted...
I think you are underestimating FE7 a bit. FE7 was the original FE boom in North America and I think it did pretty well in Japan as well. As long as they aren't picking crazy fights like Lucina, they can be fairly competitive. Also remember that Ephraim beat Leo and Chrom in the first gauntlet. Awakening and Fates are strong but they don't instantly beat just anyone.


Did he? I forgot that. I'm happy, though, because FE13/14 just auto-winning disappoints me. This just isn't one of those times where the older game has the better character. There are a lot of better FE7 characters, whereas I think Lissa's actually a pretty good character.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 12:38:26 AM
#260:


actually now that i think about it, there could be some LFF going on. like a gamefaqs 4-way, with a bunch of people who would support Lissa over Priscilla 1v1 that are instead supporting Elise.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 1:10:18 AM
#261:


Team Lachesis
Score: 329300
Rank in Army: 5201
Total Score: 608100
Total Rank: 19643

Next boost period for Lachesis is expected to be in 7 hours so I hope I can get up in time for it.
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TsunamiXXVIII
06/30/17 1:52:49 AM
#262:


Xuxon posted...
actually now that i think about it, there could be some LFF going on. like a gamefaqs 4-way, with a bunch of people who would support Lissa over Priscilla 1v1 that are instead supporting Elise.


...Why did I not think of this? I guess because I was always supporting losing armies in the first two Voting Gauntlets, I completely forgot that if your unit wins, you're stuck with it. And Lissa would probably be drawing from the same fanbase as the Fates girls...but by the same token, Sakura's Army is probably more likely to have gone to Elise than to Lissa. As for the other three defeated armies...Clarine's probably either goes to Priscilla or Lachesis, and I have no idea where Maria's goes. Maybe Lissa? I jumped from Mist's to Lissa's, because...those actually were my top 2, facing off in R1.

...No, wait, that's silly. These hypothetical people that don't care about anything before Awakening probably would've started off on Lissa's team, because she was facing a pre-Awakening character in R1 whereas Elise was facing Sakura, and then they'd still be there and Lissa would win this whole thing unless all of the early games' fanbases preferred Elise...oh, wait, Conquest was the one designed for the longtime fans; that could actually happen.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 3:30:42 AM
#263:


oh nice, Athena and Rody to 4*. i thought it'd be the opposite. those were the only units i wanted from that banner anyway.
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Dark Young Link
06/30/17 3:31:33 AM
#264:


3* Lon'qu (5 Red Orbs)
4* Odin
3* F.Corrin
3* Matthew(Red and colorless only)
3* Subaki
3* F.Corrin
4* Subaki
3* Arthur(Literally my only Green)
4* Peri
3* Florina
3* Odin

Uggh this game sometimes.

40+ orbs. No more pulling for this week or so.
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theawesomestevr
06/30/17 3:49:08 AM
#265:


Got another 5* Camilla after 25 orbs. This one has neutral stats, so I guess at least I can sac her or my +Def, - Spd one to give a Cherche Brave Axe +.

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Grimmer
06/30/17 6:36:12 AM
#266:


I was thinking that Roderick and Luke would become 4* available. Glad to see Athena there. I'd consider merging up some copies of her
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Lopen
06/30/17 10:23:43 AM
#267:


I spent 100 orbs on this banner, putting me below 20. I didn't even intend to but I was so pissed off when I got 5* Peri of all blue units when drawing only blues instead of Robin I rage pulled some more, and was rewarded with Priscilla and Young Tiki. 3 units I have no interest in using and have no good skills to inherit-- great!

At least I got some good 4*s but still.

I think I figured out the problem with this game's draw system. Like, overall, it's fair, but man, I don't think I've ever been so irritated at failing to get anything good with so few draws. Like I had a moment where I considered rage quitting over the draws-- and that's never happened to me in a gacha game before.

I feel like off banner 5*s shouldn't reset your pity pull percentage (and shouldn't be helped by it either). Or maybe they shouldn't make 5* units with no good inheritable skills.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 11:14:39 AM
#268:


welp, pretty sure i just missed a bonus period by like 10 minutes <_<

definitely not getting top 1k this time, maybe not even top 5k.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 11:39:08 AM
#269:


Yeah, you did. There's another bonus period coming up for Lachesis, though.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 11:42:42 AM
#270:


hell, there might be 2 bonus hours in a row the way Elise is gonna feast now <_<
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 12:07:45 PM
#271:


Lachesis has bonus power again. It seems like Elise didn't hit her hard enough to trigger 2 hours of bonus so this might be the last one.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 12:15:17 PM
#272:


from what i can estimate, Lachesis's army would need to have less than 2500 people spending 400 flags to get another bonus, or more than 12500 people spending 400 flags to trigger another Elise bonus. neither seems all that likely.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 1:24:30 PM
#273:


Elise gained 219M points that update. if she keeps gaining at that rate for the rest of the match, Lachesis could get a bonus at the end as long as she gains less than 103.7M per update. that ratio seems very similar to what's been happening throughout the match, though i'm not sure if that volume of votes can be maintained. this is about the best case scenario for Lachesis to actually win.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 1:34:56 PM
#274:


Japan is going to sleep since it's 2am for them. I think vote totals will fall off a bit from here.
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Xuxon
06/30/17 2:23:50 PM
#275:


yeah they fell off a cliff already. it's pretty much over now. i'm in the top 5k even missing this morning and yesterday morning's bonuses so that's not too bad. somewhat near the cutoff at 4311, so i might need to use some flags at the end.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 2:56:17 PM
#276:


What's your current score? Mine is:

Team Lachesis
Score: 834600
Rank in Army: 1540
Total Score: 1113400
Total Rank: 4784
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Xuxon
06/30/17 3:29:18 PM
#277:


Team Lachesis
Score: 630,700
Rank in army: 4,311
Total score: 1,124,400
Total rank: 4,600
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 5:10:37 PM
#278:


Based on the last hour, Lachesis will get a boost in 9 hours. There are only 7 hours left so Team Elise just needs to avoid doing anything silly and just let the match end uneventfully.
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MrSmartGuy
06/30/17 5:29:45 PM
#279:


I am rank 3100 on Elise, so I'm just not touching the game the rest of the day.
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TsunamiXXVIII
06/30/17 6:35:58 PM
#280:


So are we still looking at Lissa not getting a boost before this ends? I'm saving my flags, but I don't know how long to wait.
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Team Rocket Elite
06/30/17 7:22:12 PM
#281:


TsunamiXXVIII posted...
So are we still looking at Lissa not getting a boost before this ends? I'm saving my flags, but I don't know how long to wait.


Lissa is getting more than 90% of the votes relative to Priscilla per hour. If this keeps up, the boost will never trigger since Priscilla will never be winning by enough. Lissa is not going to get another boost before the round ends.
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Dark Young Link
06/30/17 7:33:29 PM
#282:


That's unfortunate. Not because I want Lissa to win, but because I probably won't get too high of a score without another boost.
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mcflubbin
06/30/17 8:10:31 PM
#283:


mcflubbin posted...
I want that Gaius, hot damn.

Holy shit, I actually got him! That never happens! I'm stoked.

He's -SPD unfortunately, but I still want to try and make him work. Anyone have suggestions on a build I could use to work around it?
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Yankees
06/30/17 8:16:40 PM
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WickIebee
06/30/17 8:16:44 PM
#285:


That reminds me, haven't checked my Gaius's stat stuff...

lol, I got -Spd too. +Atk/-Spd to be precise.
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mcflubbin
06/30/17 8:21:32 PM
#286:


+Res
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Yankees
06/30/17 8:35:45 PM
#287:


Maybe Fury and Quick Reposte would work well on him. That should put him in a good place to bait mages.
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mcflubbin
06/30/17 8:50:12 PM
#288:


Yeah I was thinking he could be a decent mage killer. The benefit of having a +Res nature means that Def Ploy 3 is even more effective, which is pretty cool too. Fury / QR sounds pretty good, though he does come with Vantage so I might leave him with that for the time being since I don't think I have any SI fodder with QR right now.

I kind of wish he had a bit more defense or HP because I would actually consider giving him Takumi's Close Counter.
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Dark Young Link
07/01/17 12:08:12 AM
#289:


Team Lissa

Rank in Army: 3454


Didn't see my score but I got 2.1k feathers so between 1001-5000. I was probably in the middle of that.


Priscilla pulled it off somehow.
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theawesomestevr
07/01/17 12:12:34 AM
#290:


Team Lissa Rank: 4243

I have neither bonus unit and 1815 + next round's flags to spend. Not sure what the best strategy is for feathers at this point.

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Yankees
07/01/17 12:21:29 AM
#291:


Ranked 3442 with Lissa this round. I have a Priscilla so I'll be joining that team next round.

Managed to beat the GHB on infernal. Xander made things a lot easier
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Team Rocket Elite
07/01/17 12:23:01 AM
#292:


Team Lachesis
Score: 836400
Rank in Army: 1548

Final Round 2 Rank.
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Dark Young Link
07/01/17 12:38:07 AM
#293:


gQbmM1I

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Xuxon
07/01/17 1:02:06 AM
#294:


gah... i got caught up in the hype again. 180 or so orbs down for 5* +atk/-HP Titania, 5* +atk/-res Sheena, and a couple 4* -def Effies. one of the Effies is +atk at least, but -def seems bad for her. i don't think i could even use Effie unless i switch to Japanese voices.
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Dark Young Link
07/01/17 1:45:18 AM
#295:


WHODACRUSH?



(Honestly wish I had an Effie. Zephiel is my only good armor right now)
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Dark Young Link
07/01/17 3:21:31 AM
#296:


Round 2 Rank(Lissa)

Rank: 3454
Score: 397,210
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Xuxon
07/01/17 3:40:28 AM
#297:


round 2 results:
score: 631400
rank: 4458
total score: 1125200
total rank: 4794
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TsunamiXXVIII
07/01/17 4:17:30 AM
#298:


Bonus in the second hour! Dropped my 5 flag login, though I'm saving the multiples of 200 for the endgame.
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Xuxon
07/01/17 4:21:47 AM
#299:


i'll have 2830 flags to spend this round so i'm definitely spending in 200s for every bonus period

did you already spend all your flags last round or something? i wouldn't count on there being a huge amount of bonus time here.
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TsunamiXXVIII
07/01/17 4:25:33 AM
#300:


Xuxon posted...
i'll have 2830 flags to spend this round so i'm definitely spending in 200s for every bonus period

did you already spend all your flags last round or something? i wouldn't count on there being a huge amount of bonus time here.


Not last round, no. Did in Round 1.
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