Board 8 > Politics Topic 86: Hawaii, Where Everything's Made Up And The Votes Don't Matter

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Nelson_Mandela posted...

DeathChicken posted...

I think at this point people don't like you personally, so take heart, it's no longer political!

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

til I learned the term "safe space" actually existed a decade ago
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well no, people weren't particularly happy when you just went 'lol master troll' to sessions shitting on hawaiii.
i mean you do troll from time to time and it gets under people's skin.

...mind you, it's not like many of the ones mad at you don't troll from time to time themselves. you just do it with more frequency and better. when you aren't trolling, you're pretty good, when you are, well, it works too well.
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MariaTaylor posted...

SupremeZero posted...

Apparently this conversation about a general subject can only be conducted between two specific people.

I'm starting to think there's more lava than ground.

I mean what you're describing entails one of two things

1. a conversation between some number of people who includes Lasa and me continues. in which case the moronic conversation between me and Lasa continues

2. a conversation between some number of people that does not include both me and Lasa continues. in which case the moronic conversation between me and Lasa does not continue.

there literally is no middle ground. either 'the conversation between me and Lasa continues' or it doesn't. you're just stating additional things that might or might not happen. that's not middle ground -- it's unrelated.

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

what about 'the discussion may or may not continue' or something to that effect?

that's not middle ground, that's just restating the premise. was there a fire hydrant at the corner of MLK and 4th street?

a. yes
b. no
c. either yes or no

that's not middle ground. it's just an extra answer which restates the exact same premise. there's still no middle ground between whether the hydrant is there or not. similarly, as SZ is stating above;

'what if there are two hydrants? three?' okay, so yes, it is there. and two others are also there.

'what if the hydrant is removed and a different one is placed nearby' okay, so it's not there.

what if 4th St. was changed to Trump St. and you didn't realize this before making the statement about the hydrant?
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Wanglicious posted...

i mean you do troll from time to time and it gets under people's skin.

shots fired
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I don't troll. If I think someone is shit or their opinions are shit I'm going to tell them with full honesty!
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

not sure why anyone would think this is a "safe space for leftists." there are non-leftists posting in here constantly.
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Wanglicious posted...

well no, people weren't particularly happy when you just went 'lol master troll' to sessions shitting on hawaiii.
i mean you do troll from time to time and it gets under people's skin.

...mind you, it's not like many of the ones mad at you don't troll from time to time themselves. you just do it with more frequency and better. when you aren't trolling, you're pretty good, when you are, well, it works too well.

I want this etched on my tombstone
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Mr Lasastryke posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

not sure why anyone would think this is a "safe space for leftists." there are non-leftists posting in here constantly.

Nelson was talking about trump supporters fyi
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

what if 4th St. was changed to Trump St. and you didn't realize this before making the statement about the hydrant?

'a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet' is my reply to that
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I would like it etched on my tombstone "If your lot in life is trolling a videogame message board, kill yourself"
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DeathChicken posted...

I would like it etched on my tombstone "If your lot in life is trolling a videogame message board, kill yourself"

That's not very progressive of you
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MariaTaylor posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

what if 4th St. was changed to Trump St. and you didn't realize this before making the statement about the hydrant?

'a rose by any other name would smell just as sweet' is my reply to that

you underestimate the psychosomatic effect
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Nelson_Mandela posted...

DeathChicken posted...

I would like it etched on my tombstone "If your lot in life is trolling a videogame message board, kill yourself"

That's not very progressive of you

yes it is
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KamikazePotato posted...

I'm not part of the left and not especially tolerant towards those that have rejected every attempt at rational discourse

Someone not being a liberal does not mean they reject rational discourse.

If you want "rejecting rational discourse", there are hundreds upon thousands of videos you could watch just from this election season alone where the left has completely lost their minds.

Hop on Facebook and go read the comments under Tomi Lahren's status about her dog dying. That is a group of crazy people.

Nelson_Mandela posted...

DeathChicken posted...

I think at this point people don't like you personally, so take heart, it's no longer political!

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

Yep - people like you and Ulti are prime examples of that :D
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BowserCuffs posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

DeathChicken posted...

I think at this point people don't like you personally, so take heart, it's no longer political!

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

Yep - people like you and Ulti are prime examples of that :D

I've asked for examples of my trolling on page 3 of this topic and I've yet to see one person even attempt an example. Just typical online hate mob stuff that the left engages in these days.

When Bill Mahr is lecturing his own people about what free speech means, something has gone seriously wrong.

UltiXX posted...

BowserCuffs posted...

Nelson_Mandela posted...

DeathChicken posted...

I think at this point people don't like you personally, so take heart, it's no longer political!

Yeah I guess people do really get bad mad when they are called out on their bullshit when they think they're inside their safe space

Yep - people like you and Ulti are prime examples of that :D

I've asked for examples of my trolling on page 3 of this topic and I've yet to see one person even attempt an example. Just typical online hate mob stuff that the left engages in these days.

When Bill Mahr is lecturing his own people about what free speech means, something has gone seriously wrong.

To be fair, the last time I gave examples of a b8 conservative trolling, Vlado got mad at me for repeatedly mass-quoting him.

edit: also just a neat little coincidence, Maher, not Mahr... but more importantly, my father apparently knew that dude in college.

edit 2: oops lol screwed up that format
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Wanglicious posted...

you're correct. the initial claim you made is right, the ad hominem attack on ulti was correctly called out.

Oh so Wang has never read an Ulti post either.
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Ulti, I'm like one of the people on this board who genuinely likes you (outside of politics topics lmao), but you honestly cannot deny you troll like all hell.
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... is Ulti questioning why no one's responded to his request for citation regarding his trolling?

Does he not believe people when they say that almost everyone here has him ignored or something?
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Ulti, I'm like one of the people on this board who genuinely likes you (outside of politics topics lmao), but you honestly cannot deny you troll like all hell.

honestly you're kinda validating his position just by stating this when it goes without saying >_>

(though I agree with you)
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SupremeZero posted...

Does he not believe people when they say that almost everyone here has him ignored or something?

I straight up asked him if he was trolling this one time when he bashed plum in mafia for being mormon and got banned for a while for it and he admitted it without hesitation, though the alternative of actually having such negative perceptions of mormons would have been worse, true or untrue. Still, it was an example of him admitting to having trolled... though he also spun it as a mafia tactic, which certainly makes sense and I would believe... though his persistence with it after host warnings, banning and subsequent apologies suggested he got himself in too deep with it for one reason or another.

And then there was the whole Alex book thing which has already been brought up in this topic or at least the previous topic in which he also admitted to having trolled.

At this point, Ulti wins when you cite examples of him having previously trolled, because by doing that, you dignify his "I don't troll!" sentiments by contradicting them and providing proof, which casts more doubt on such claims than just laughing at him or ignoring him since it suggests that PROOF IS NEEDED to convince the masses of the claim as opposed to the masses just inherently knowing the claim is true. I just buy into it because Ulti and I have had a very good rapport lately and I appreciate that and feel like these topics are more interesting and fun so long as said rapport holds.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

Oh so Wang has never read an Ulti post either.

i'm one of the people who doesn't have him on ignore and has read plenty.
there's still no denial that it was a lot of ad hominem against him.

whatever the reason may be for it, how justified you feel you are to do so, etc, that's all a completely separate issue. somebody calling it out is completely fair and the response of explaining why that's happening is good. this sort of response you gave me here is bad.
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mmm... this one's more like the one with the guy shitting everywhere, in terms of meme pictures.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

SupremeZero posted...

Does he not believe people when they say that almost everyone here has him ignored or something?

I straight up asked him if he was trolling this one time when he bashed plum in mafia for being mormon and got banned for a while for it and he admitted it without hesitation, though the alternative of actually having such negative perceptions of mormons would have been worse, true or untrue. Still, it was an example of him admitting to having trolled... though he also spun it as a mafia tactic, which certainly makes sense and I would believe... though his persistence with it after host warnings, banning and subsequent apologies suggested he got himself in too deep with it for one reason or another.

And then there was the whole Alex book thing which has already been brought up in this topic or at least the previous topic in which he also admitted to having trolled.

At this point, Ulti wins when you cite examples of him having previously trolled, because by doing that, you dignify his "I don't troll!" sentiments by contradicting them and providing proof, which casts more doubt on such claims than just laughing at him or ignoring him since it suggests that PROOF IS NEEDED to convince the masses of the claim as opposed to the masses just inherently knowing the claim is true. I just buy into it because Ulti and I have had a very good rapport lately and I appreciate that and feel like these topics are more interesting and fun so long as said rapport holds.

I'm not even asking for an autobiography. Page 3 has 50 posts on it and I made what, 5 of them?

Surely if my trolling was so readily apparent it would be easy to cite!

Are you assuming my posts per page settings?

also, whether or not you're asking for an autobiography has nothing to do with anyone here but you, so write one or don't :P

(for fuck's sake I am shit at editting today wtf >_<)
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I feel like this whole convo arose from the fact that Trump has done nothing super silly the past week.

Good for him.
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I mean

He's threatening to shut down the government (which the Republicans totally control) over border wall funding

That's pretty fucking stupid
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LordoftheMorons posted...

I mean

He's threatening to shut down the government (which the Republicans totally control) over border wall funding

That's pretty fucking stupid

have you seen his face? lol
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He also had an insane, super dumb interview with the AP:

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83

Somehow our President is like Sarah Palin with wicked bad ADHD.
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trump also said dreamers have nothing to worry about too.
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Wanglicious posted...

trump also said dreamers have nothing to worry about too.

lucid dreamers or just shitty regular dreamers?
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@KamikazePotato, if you call someone retarded over a difference in political opinion, you have lost the moral high ground in any political argument moving forward. One thing I actually agree with the left on is how that particular word should be n-word levels of "don't even go there". It's so far beyond vile, and it's especially rich when someone on the left goes there given they're typically the ideology of the being the language police. But hey I guess if someone isn't a liberal then it's fair game, right?

As I said, these people have become bullies in an online hate mob. It's unbelievably sad to watch a bunch of people I've spent a mostly enjoyable 15 years of my life with get this terrible over an election result. And I don't want to hear shit about how I'm the troll or bad guy here when this topic lets stuff like that slide on the regular, so long as it's against targets the leftist mob deems acceptable. How pathetic is your personal life to call people retarded over politics? Seriously. Look in a mirror and grow up.

Unlike you guys, I'm consistent. Remember when you all attacked Ann Coultier after she called Obama a retard in 2012 debates? I do. But let me guess, attacking someone in that way who isn't in line with Obama is perfectly fair right?
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Arguing with Ulti is worthless because whenever someone does say something he can't argue with he just straight up pretends they aren't posting.

As for SephyG, Nelson "Trump supporters face the same segregation that black people did in the 60s" Mandela.
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ChaosTonyV4 posted...

He also had an insane, super dumb interview with the AP:

https://apnews.com/c810d7de280a47e88848b0ac74690c83

Somehow our President is like Sarah Palin with wicked bad ADHD.

Texas no longer exists according to Trump.

I cannot believe you people are still discussing Ulti. Stop taking the god damn bait.
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Literally nothing about you not being a liberal is why people hate you.
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STOP
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For those who missed it, this is the screenshot KP posted: http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/738/025/db0.jpg

Post 336 is a pretty good explanation for why anyone reasonable should find it abhorrent.

Imagine *I* had posted that to attack people. You'd all lose your minds. I'm actually consistent and think that crap should be no-go language for everyone, which is exactly what everyone here said in 2012 when Ann Coultier attacked the president.

You either hate that language or you don't, it doesn't magically become acceptable depending on the target.
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KamikazePotato posted...

STOP

You have zero right to any lecturing of anyone on anything given that BS you just posted. You are every bit as bad as the people who claim are so terrible, and had I done that you and your little mob would freak out.

Pathetic.
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AheadOfTheCurve posted...

you have lost the moral high ground

I feel like this is the punchline of hundreds of jokes.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Wanglicious posted...

trump also said dreamers have nothing to worry about too.

lucid dreamers or just shitty regular dreamers?

the ones from mexico.
he's supporting DACA sort of, though doesn't have a really clearcut view or plan.

pretty major flip flop either way and one the left should be quite happy with and try to nudge him to support it a bit more.
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UltimaterializerX posted...

KamikazePotato posted...

I cannot believe you people are still discussing Ulti. Stop taking the god damn bait.

Not being a liberal doesn't mean someone is a baiting troll.

ayyyyyyyyyyy lmao
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Shouldn't you just rename these the Ulti Trolling Containment Topics?
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UltimaterializerX posted...

LapisLazuli posted...

Literally nothing about you not being a liberal is why people hate you.

You hating me and putting a plural tense in the post to make it look like everyone agrees is irrelevant. Very old debate tactic that's very easy to see through.

I'm not certain tense is the correct word here, though I'm not certain it's not
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Wanglicious posted...

ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

Wanglicious posted...

trump also said dreamers have nothing to worry about too.

lucid dreamers or just shitty regular dreamers?

the ones from mexico.
he's supporting DACA sort of, though doesn't have a really clearcut view or plan.

pretty major flip flop either way and one the left should be quite happy with and try to nudge him to support it a bit more.

Wasn't a Dreamer deported a week or two ago?

In any case, a commitment to honoring the deal that was made with them would be a very good thing.
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