Poll of the Day > Nintendo to release 'Mini' SNES console...

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/nintendo-releasing-mini-snes-now-162205811.html

Breaking...

Do you think a 'Mini' N64 is not too far behind?

...annnnnnd it's discontinued
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I'd buy a mini N64 in two seconds
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Can the controller cord be longer than three feet this time?

old_school227 posted...

...annnnnnd it's discontinued

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Cool, I look forward to another mediocre product with over inflated hype being distributed on a purposely limited supply around a busy season. That should be fun again.

Sweet I hope I'm one of the 10 lucky people that can find one
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I just hope I can preorder the controller this time.

fuck you nintendo! seriously, fuck you.

i'm still so angry they disco mini nes. it just make me want to a rasberry pi and make my own.
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Wait, is this actually true that they're making a Mini SNES now?
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TyVulpine posted...

old_school227 posted...

...annnnnnd it's discontinued

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The greatest console ever!

If Chrono Trigger and FF6 are on it, then this **** is bought!

i wonder how long it'll take for it to get hacked and let you install your own ROMs like the nes mini was
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Muffinz0rz posted...

I'd buy a mini N64 in two seconds

Same. This looks cool too, but I almost don't want to bother because of how horrible Nintendo is.
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I'll never understand why people buy these NES and SNES when they can so easily just.......

you know.
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cgreenw posted...

I'll never understand why people buy these NES and SNES when they can so easily just.......

you know.

Yeah it is kinda weird. People can so easily just masturbate instead.
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cgreenw posted...

I'll never understand why people buy these NES and SNES when they can so easily just.......

you know.

They only make sense to me as collector's items. Otherwise, you know.
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dragon504 posted...

cgreenw posted...

I'll never understand why people buy these NES and SNES when they can so easily just.......

you know.

They only make sense to me as collector's items. Otherwise, you know.

Some of us like saving money and physical space, as well as more freedom in overall libraries and controller length. So, you know.
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"saving money"


You mean stealing

I'll sleep outside Wal-Mart if I have to. The SNES was my first system and I want the games I grew up with in one little package.
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DorkLink posted...

"saving money"


You mean stealing

Some might, but some might already have the game tucked away somewhere. Beyond that is a legal gray area meshed with a legal warzone meshed with egos from more sides than I care to bring into this conversation.
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As unlikely as it may be, I would like Batman & Robin to be on there. $60 for a bundle of games vs. $80+ for a loose cartridge.

...emulation really isn't a grey area though.

it's illegal.

that's it. there's no inbetween.
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helIy posted...

...emulation

woah woah woah now take a breather, nobody in this topic is talking about emulation, you know. That's an exaggerated step to take when nobody is talking about that.
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You can argue it's an ethical gray area, but it's not really a legal gray area. Personally, I don't really care if you already purchased the game, and I think that there is value to emulation. For example, TASes are good for entertainment value and even sometimes educational value with how people have used it to learn about the deeper workings of the game.

Man, people saying to emulate on the PC or the Pi or whatever don't understand the nostalgia! Maybe it won't work for everyone, but for me it'll increase my personal enjoyment by a lot.

helIy posted...

...emulation really isn't a grey area though.

it's illegal.

that's it. there's no inbetween.

DorkLink posted...

You can argue it's an ethical gray area, but it's not really a legal gray area. Personally, I don't really care if you already purchased the game, and I think that there is value to emulation. For example, TASes are good for entertainment value and even sometimes educational value with how people have used it to learn about the deeper workings of the game.

Since you both seem so keen on bringing up emulation, let me state something simple. Emulators, in and of themselves, are legal. HOWEVER, it is the actual roms and their distribution that is counted as illegal according to the DMCA. Look it up sometime.

Until then, the rest of us will be sticking with you know.
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Okay but that's just splitting hairs

Entity13 posted...

Until then, the rest of us will be sticking with you know.

Smarkil posted...

Masturbastion?

the thing is i know emulations of snes roms is illegal but otoh i really dont care. ill just so it if i want to

PKMNsony posted...

The greatest console ever!

If Chrono Trigger and FF6 are on it, then this **** is bought!

Square needs to bring their A-game RPG collection...
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i said emulation, not emulators.

you literally proved both of us right, though, in that emulation is illegal and not a gray area.

and to be fair, unless you dumped the BIOS for the emulator yourself, it's illegal.

hell, even being able to get the bios from your own console is illegal.
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I recently played a bunch of SNES and Sega Genesis games on my television......

All of this mini console business seems like a high price to pay for nostalgia.
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Is it like a status symbol for gamers to have one of these in their home?

Is it just to show any friends that they have this limited system?

Because for that..... I'd prefer they keep the hardware and I'd just you know.
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cgreenw posted...

Is it like a status symbol for gamers to have one of these in their home?

Is it just to show any friends that they have this limited system?

Because for that..... I'd prefer they keep the hardware and I'd just you know.

Well if Nintendo was smart they would make more of them, showing that people are willing to pay like $150-200 for a new NES mini, and Nintendo compounds this problem by only producing the console for a short period of time.

Apparently Nintendo wants the scalpers to easily make bank on these things.

Monopoman posted...

Well if Nintendo was smart they would make more of them, showing that people are willing to pay like $150-200 for a new NES mini, and Nintendo compounds this problem by only producing the console for a short period of time.

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it isn't smart.
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Veedrock- posted...

Monopoman posted...

Well if Nintendo was smart they would make more of them, showing that people are willing to pay like $150-200 for a new NES mini, and Nintendo compounds this problem by only producing the console for a short period of time.

Just because you don't get it doesn't mean it isn't smart.

Remember: Nintendo is in the trading business--has been since the end of the 19th century--first and the game development business as a means to an end. Their apparent love for games or the fans is a facade.
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Trading?

WarGreymon77 posted...

Trading?

Yes, trade. From playing cards in 1889, to gaming systems ranging between 1979 and the present, and all of their trade policies since that fateful February 1889 when they formed. Everything they say and do is to promote trade so they can see profit.

Edit: Also toys in the 1960s.
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Still doesn't make sense. Why would they encourage scalpers?

WarGreymon77 posted...

Still doesn't make sense. Why would they encourage scalpers?

It is a way to encourage their fans to make immediate purchases out of fear of higher prices later.

I mean, can you really say you're not going to be preordering this thing day 1 after what they pulled with the last one?

Sure, but they would make more money with more production.

WarGreymon77 posted...

Sure, but they would make more money with more production.

Think about it this way - if you knew something was always going to be available, any time of the day... it kind of diminishes your urgency to buy it, right?

I think it's an outdated policy, like waaay outdated and mostly in response to the overproduction of the early 1980's that hasn't been a threat in decades. But I can see the merit of acting in this counter-intuitive way for building brand value, on occasion. But at this point Nintendo has a pretty high established brand value (especially in comparison with how small the company really is) and they don't have to keep pulling stunts like this.

wah_wah_wah posted...

WarGreymon77 posted...

Sure, but they would make more money with more production.

Think about it this way - if you knew something was always going to be available, any time of the day... it kind of diminishes your urgency to buy it, right?

I think it's an outdated policy, like waaay outdated and mostly in response to the overproduction of the early 1980's that hasn't been a threat in decades. But I can see the merit of acting in this counter-intuitive way for building brand value, on occasion. But at this point Nintendo has a pretty high established brand value (especially in comparison with how small the company really is) and they don't have to keep pulling stunts like this.

You could compare it to Amiibo the difference is they brought back the Amiibos that were vastly under-produced and that helped those get them later. Meanwhile with the NES mini they are just like hmm, lets announce this final shipment letting all the scalpers know that we will never make another one.

If anything the best way to do this type of strategy is VASTLY under-ship the first 1-2 shipments then 2-3 months later ship the fuck out of it. That way everyone overreacts to how hard it is to get in the first 1 or 2 shipments and then when the 3rd comes on like a tidal wave everyone buys it since they missed out before. Sony somewhat did this with the PS2 where the console was hard as hell to find for the first 4-6 months of its life cycle but then 1 year later or so they were readily available.

Monopoman posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

WarGreymon77 posted...

Sure, but they would make more money with more production.

Think about it this way - if you knew something was always going to be available, any time of the day... it kind of diminishes your urgency to buy it, right?

I think it's an outdated policy, like waaay outdated and mostly in response to the overproduction of the early 1980's that hasn't been a threat in decades. But I can see the merit of acting in this counter-intuitive way for building brand value, on occasion. But at this point Nintendo has a pretty high established brand value (especially in comparison with how small the company really is) and they don't have to keep pulling stunts like this.

You could compare it to Amiibo the difference is they brought back the Amiibos that were vastly under-produced and that helped those get them later. Meanwhile with the NES mini they are just like hmm, lets announce this final shipment letting all the scalpers know that we will never make another one.

If anything the best way to do this type of strategy is VASTLY under-ship the first 1-2 shipments then 2-3 months later ship the fuck out of it. That way everyone overreacts to how hard it is to get in the first 1 or 2 shipments and then when the 3rd comes on like a tidal wave everyone buys it since they missed out before. Sony somewhat did this with the PS2 where the console was hard as hell to find for the first 4-6 months of its life cycle but then 1 year later or so they were readily available.

They sometimes do that. Sometimes they don't. They don't really carry a specific strategy with it. The only reliable thing they will do is really short supply upon first release.

The only Nintendo product I can think of in the last 5-10 years that they really over-produced it was Metroid Other M. They miscalculated so badly on that that they ended up selling copies for a dollar.

wah_wah_wah posted...

The only Nintendo product I can think of in the last 5-10 years that they really over-produced it was Metroid Other M. They miscalculated so badly on that that they ended up selling copies for a dollar.

Fuck, I got ripped off. I paid $5 for it new.
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Couldn't vote in poll. Too many games that were influential to my childhood. Desperately needed an "all of the above" one. Hopefully this comes with Some of the killer SNES RPGS. Chrono Trigger, FF 2 & 3 (Or 4 and 6) andwhy not include some more obscure titles. NBA Jam, Ogre Battle, River City Ransom, Actraiser. just too many titles to count. And if they don't put Megaman X on it... there'd be hell to pay! Kidding.

Zeus posted...

wah_wah_wah posted...

The only Nintendo product I can think of in the last 5-10 years that they really over-produced it was Metroid Other M. They miscalculated so badly on that that they ended up selling copies for a dollar.

Fuck, I got ripped off. I paid $5 for it new.

Lol yeah... I paid full price for my copy. Fresh on the heels of buying Metroid Prime 3

KoverassarevoK posted...

Couldn't vote in poll. Too many games that were influential to my childhood. Desperately needed an "all of the above" one. Hopefully this comes with Some of the killer SNES RPGS. Chrono Trigger, FF 2 & 3 (Or 4 and 6) andwhy not include some more obscure titles. NBA Jam, Ogre Battle, River City Ransom, Actraiser. just too many titles to count. And if they don't put Megaman X on it... there'd be hell to pay! Kidding.

I just saw the poll. Voted for Earthbound because it's notoriously expensive. Unlike some collectors, I'm a practical guy.

KoverassarevoK posted...

Couldn't vote in poll. Too many games that were influential to my childhood. Desperately needed an "all of the above" one. Hopefully this comes with Some of the killer SNES RPGS. Chrono Trigger, FF 2 & 3 (Or 4 and 6) andwhy not include some more obscure titles. NBA Jam, Ogre Battle, River City Ransom, Actraiser. just too many titles to count. And if they don't put Megaman X on it... there'd be hell to pay! Kidding.

Eh, the problem with the poll is that I pretty much already own all of the options.

As for the things you listed, you need to remember that Nintendo may not necessarily want to pay 3rd parties for their content so that'll be a bit slimmer. Plus RCR was the NES, wasn't it?
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