Board 8 > Five thousand dollars cash (tax free) to execute a criminal

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From: JaKyL25 | #043
It's not just that, it's that the guy is awake and able to communicate with you.

Hit an enzugiri and then whale with the bat

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From: Lopen | #050
To be fair I think the guy would be unconscious or unable to speak after the first few swings if you pick your swings right...! ... what?

Well the dude could potentially die with one swing to the back of the head, or at the very least he would be knocked out and just let him bleed out.

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I don't think I could kill a tied up man like that, even if he deserves it.


I think I'm capable of beating a guy to death if he's attempting to kill me or people I care about, but for money? I just don't think I could physically bring myself to do it.

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What did he ever do to me?

He killed two people and now I am the one who has to kill him and take a mere $5000 and a moral blow for life?uhhh.

I would literally have killed half as many people as this guy did. I am half the murderer. You people who say yes are crazy.

From: TheRock1525 | #049
Yeah, you suddenly forget you bashed some dude's brains in when you can buy s*** you only dreamed of buying.

Forget? No. But you can justify it.

It's not like it was some random innocent schmuck we're talking about either. The guy is gonna die anyway, whether you do the deed or not. Yes, the experience itself is horrifying, which is why it has to be worth my while to do it.

To me there really is no moral choice here whatsoever. It's all about "is $5K enough for you to agree to live with the memory of it?"

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no and no amount of money would persuade me

psychological trauma and my stance against the death penalty seal the deal

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Yep. 5K's good enough. that's a decent amount of money to work with, especially for the time i'll be spending. would simply swing to kill. $5000 for a 5-10 minute job? sign me up. the biggest issue is the matter of personal guilt but he's a dead man anyway. if i don't do it a doctor will by sticking a needle. doctor can save his time, the vaccine can save people money (that thing is for some reason expensive), and i do it quickly enough.

and lopen, the cost of getting the blood out of your outfit (or just getting a new one since let's face it - nobody's going in there in a suit) along with your time is probably worth more than $100.


actually, double checking: i do get to pick my clothes right. or at the least it's 'casual clothing of average prices' level.

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Rather than thinking the people who say $5000 is fine are crazy, I think the people who say "no for any amount of money" are pretty unrealistic. Until you're presented with that large amount of money, you just don't know. When we're talking money to do anything you ever would want, your morals, no matter how deep-set, will be challenged.

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Well for me, how little 5k is had nothing to do with it. In fact, when I wrote my response I was pretty much thinking "killing a guy for more money than I could possibly need" which is actually far more than what was offered.


So I don't think the amount increasing would change me.

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From: DigitalIncision | #060
Rather than thinking the people who say $5000 is fine are crazy, I think the people who say "no for any amount of money" are pretty unrealistic. Until you're presented with that large amount of money, you just don't know. When we're talking money to do anything you ever would want, your morals, no matter how deep-set, will be challenged.

all right

i'll just say there's a 99% possiblity i'd decline for any amount of money

it's a hypothetical situation anyway which i'll never be in so it's easier to say that i won't!

ok, 99% chance that i won't be in that situation

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Right, which is just what you'd say without having that amount of money presented to you. I like to think it wouldn't change me, either.

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From: CalvinbalI | Posted: 2/10/2012 2:34:29 AM | #036
And RayDyn, I'm sorry if you somehow took what I said in that way, and for bringing you up as the sort of impetus for a stupid debate surrounding an ever more dumb hypothetical question.

Don't worry about it, I didn't read into your words at all.

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Well I assumed they'd provide me with a raincoat, Wang. It's only the civil thing to do.

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From: Lopen | #066
Well I assumed they'd provide me with a raincoat, Wang. It's only the civil thing to do.

considering the brutality involved in such an execution, i don't think civility factors much in the whole thing!

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DigitalIncision posted...
Right, which is just what you'd say without having that amount of money presented to you. I like to think it wouldn't change me, either.


Well, I know what I'm capable of in a fight from experience. Obviously I don't have the experience of a billion dollars being offered, but from what I have done in the past, I really don't think I could make myself do it, even if I wanted to.

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CalvinbalI posted...
Wow. And you are trying to lecture to me about logic? It's not even worth trying to discuss this with you.


...You realize that I was following YOUR line of logic, right?

You're the one that implied somebody in the armed forces will automatically be more okay with killing than somebody who isn't. You literally implied that, because Ray said he wouldn't do it, nobody else in this topic could, and they were all just "keyboard warriors." So, uh...

You kinda opened yourself up to that. Your dumb logic lead to other dumb logic. Who'da thunk it!

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I think all Calvin was saying is that people who are in the military are MORE disposed towards the type of mentality that would be okay with this. Pretty much everybody in the military has had to make the conscious decision that they'd be okay with killing under certain circumstances. Few civilians have. That doesn't make the military folks automatically cooler with this than the civilians, but if I had to put a bet down on who'd take this deal, I'd take a random guy whose job involves him possibly having to kill over a random guy who is just a random guy.

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Tom Bombadil posted...
I think all Calvin was saying is that people who are in the military are MORE disposed towards the type of mentality that would be okay with this. Pretty much everybody in the military has had to make the conscious decision that they'd be okay with killing under certain circumstances. Few civilians have. That doesn't make the military folks automatically cooler with this than the civilians, but if I had to put a bet down on who'd take this deal, I'd take a random guy whose job involves him possibly having to kill over a random guy who is just a random guy.


To be fair, if that's what he was trying to say, than he shouldn't have mixed it in among slams on the people in the topic and "keyboard warriors." Because as is, how he said it implies that, somehow, the average schmo can't be more likely to kill somebody than a marine.

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From: StealThisSheen | #035
How can you say, with 100% certainty, that a member of the armed services is more willing to kill somebody than somebody not in them.

Uh I don't think he did.

I took him to mean that a person in the military would more likely have seriously considered the reality of taking a life versus random internet tough guys going "hell yeah i'd do it lemme at em im so badass". And given that someone who was more likely to have given it serious consideration was expressing more reluctance than those who perhaps had not (or at least, had less reason to have done so), it probably meant that killing someone wasn't as easy as some people were acting.

I honestly don't know how you got your understanding of what he said, outside of willful misinterpretation.

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Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.

But anyone who joins the armed services has to confront the possibility that they might be charged with attacking and killing other people. They have to live with that decision. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said than for anyone else responding to this


Being in the Marine Corps shouldn't really say anything about whether you're more or less likely to kill somebody who isn't a threat to you than the average schmo. By saying "Which is a hell of a more more than can be said for anyone else responding to this," he's implying that the mere fact Ray was in the Marine Corps should mean he's more likely to be okay with killing somebody than anyone else who has replied. But if anything, I'd think that would mean the opposite. He'd likely be more likely to restrain himself from anger outbursts/etc., and not act in such a nature.

I just can't help that as seeing him saying "Well, if Ray won't, then none of you would." Which isn't fair to say at all, since "average schmo" murders happen every day, and often against people that don't deserve it.

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Absolutely, for much less too.

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If he killed someone I loved, then almost definitely.

Otherwise, it'd be circumstantial.

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nowhere near enough money. you get a couple million for it and you can donate a moderate part and save a few lives that i couldn't afford to help otherwise. that's just a utility calculation.

but $5000? pft.

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My god no. The fact that so many people are saying they would (though I doubt they actually could) is kind of sick. 5000 is not nearly enough money first off, secondly you need to be a special kind of person to pull it off, just sick imo.

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LordoftheMorons | Posted 2/10/2012 3:07:38 AM | message detail | quote
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for 5k, probably not. it would need to be a life-changing amount i'd think.

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My god no. The fact that so many people are saying they would (though I doubt they actually could) is kind of sick

could? what makes you doubt that human beings are capable of killing one another? because that is simply being willfully ignorant

not sure that I'd do it for $5,000 though, depending on the crime I would even do it for free(child/animal abuse are the two things that would probably push me that far, people who abuse kids deserve to be bludgeoned with a bat) but in this case I'm not sure, I would have to spend some time thinking about it

5k....dollars?

Yeah I'm not touching those, you gotta pay me in commodities or another currency.

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My god no. The fact that so many people are saying they would (though I doubt they actually could) is kind of sick. 5000 is not nearly enough money first off, secondly you need to be a special kind of person to pull it off, just sick imo.

A special kind of person? I'd think most people would probably do it if no one ever knew they did it. Caring about what others think of them is a bigger driving force to people actions than morals are.

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no

edit: unless I had a good connection to either person he killed, or if the manner in which he killed was worse then the baseball bat.

No

You people are totally gross

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From: PartOfYourWorld | #001
you do the job by caving his head in with a baseball bat, like the "Bear Jew" in Inglorious Basterds (only your bat will be aluminum). The sentenced man is not given any anesthetic or a blindfold. His hands and feet are bound, but he remains conscious and aware. The execution will be carried out behind closed doors, and no one else will know about the manner of his execution or even that you were the one to execute him.

Man, I wouldn't even execute him humanely, let alone cave in his head with a baseball bat.

No amount of money would change my mind, even if all I had to do was flip a switch. I'm not even against killing someone if necessary, I just don't want to kill someone just for material gain.

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Depends on the circumstances, honestly.

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I'd do it for free out of civic responsibility.

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god no

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Nope.

I'm against the death penalty, let alone willing to be the one to do it.

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As an abstract question, I believe there's nothing morally wrong with doing this.

But I'm not sure I could bring myself to carry it out.


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He's already had his trial and been declared guilty (murdering another man over a petty dispute, and then murdering a cop while evading police)

I am actually for the death penalty and I don't think this is enough detail. Was he 120% conscious of the decision to kill the man? And killing a cop could have been the result of stress or the like. Or he could have a mental disorder that was triggered due to circumstance. Not saying that's valid justification, I am just saying. Actually, none of that matters as this crime isn't as severe as what others have done and there's a damn good chance of rehabituation (but not with the way prisons are set up).

you do the job by caving his head in with a baseball bat,

Yeah... that's going to be a resounding no from me.

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Hahaha no. For 5k? Come on dudes, that's not a lot of money and the guy hasn't done enough to warrant the death penalty anyway. Some of you guys need to be locked up, I think.

certainly not for 5k. My peace of mind is worth more than that.

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that's not a lot of money and the guy hasn't done enough to warrant the death penalty anyway.

he killed two people, as much as I do think the police are simply a government run street gang, that still counts for something

and hey, it's $5,000. it may not be set for life money but it's not a bad payday considering they were going to kill him anyway. an executioner is just a tool, the judge is the one really pulling the trigger.

I still see this as "$5000 to become half the murderer as the guy".

3DSRage posted...
I still see this as "$5000 to become half the murderer as the guy".

And I still see this as making the world a better place, and getting paid to do it on top of that.

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