He's already had his trial and been declared guilty (murdering another man over a petty dispute, and then murdering a cop while evading police). It is time for him to be executed. You are offered five thousand dollars in cash to execute him, but only if
you do the job by caving his head in with a baseball bat, like the "Bear Jew" in Inglorious Basterds (only your bat will be aluminum). The sentenced man is not given any anesthetic or a blindfold. His hands and feet are bound, but he remains conscious and aware. The execution will be carried out behind closed doors, and no one else will know about the manner of his execution or even that you were the one to execute him.
Do you do it?
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From: PartOfYourWorld | Posted: 2/10/2012 1:52:39 AM | #001 only your bat will be aluminum
Deal breaker.
Seriously though, probably not, I'm capable of many things, a lot of which most people wouldn't be proud, but I don't think I'd be up to that kind of savagery, deserving or not. Plus, $5k is a little low.
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Seriously though, probably not, I'm capable of many things, a lot of which most people wouldn't be proud, but I don't think I'd be up to that kind of savagery, deserving or not. Plus, $5k is a little low.
Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.
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Follow-up question: we are presuming these binds on his hands and feet are unbreakable, right? Like, we're not supposed to be factoring in the minuscule chance that the guy might absorb the first hit and go into Adamantium Rage mode and break free and kill us, right?
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Jakyl, I love your thought process in these things. Seriously, your first answer about repetition making you numb to it was really interesting; I hadn't considered that at all. And just to answer that question: this is a one-time thing.
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From: CalvinbalI | #009 Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.
Honestly I don't see what serving in the Marine Corps has anything to do with anything. I wouldn't assume killing is something you "get used to" (or that the typical Marine Corps guy actually kills anyone these days, for this matter)
You're either a highly empathic person and you have trouble doing it every time unless you've killed so much you've become desensitized to it or you're not an don't really see what the big deal is. There's of course the possibility it'd traumatize me but I'm pretty sure I wouldn't care at all. Possible I'd regret it but yeah, I'd take the gamble on it without hesitation.
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CalvinbalI posted... Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.
Because everybody in the Marine Corps are bloodthirsty killers and everything.
I don't think you really thought this post out.
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Seriously though, probably not, I'm capable of many things, a lot of which most people wouldn't be proud, but I don't think I'd be up to that kind of savagery, deserving or not. Plus, $5k is a little low. Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.
I'd imagine there's a pretty big difference between being willing to kill an enemy combatant who actually presents a threat and being willing to kill a defenseless man, even though the defenseless man in this scenario is quite possibly less deserving of his life.
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From: PartOfYourWorld | #016 Jakyl, I love your thought process in these things. Seriously, your first answer about repetition making you numb to it was really interesting; I hadn't considered that at all. And just to answer that question: this is a one-time thing.
Okay, then no, I wouldn't do it.
I'm not morally opposed to it, I just don't have the anger inside me to actually do this just for a quick buck that isn't life-changing or anything.
But like I said, if I could keep doing it (on people that were equally 100% guilty each time) to the point where it could be my job, I'd be down for it because at that point the mentality would be "Doing a ton of these in one week every year will give me my dream lifestyle otherwise."
It's an odd moral tightrope to walk.
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From: StealThisSheen | #019 CalvinbalI posted... Didn't you serve in the Marine Corps? The fact that you wouldn't do it, while all these other keyboard warriors say they would with no hesitation, is pretty indicative of something, though I'll leave it to everyone else to consider what that might be.
Because everybody in the Marine Corps are bloodthirsty killers and everything.
I don't think you really thought this post out.
I thought it out just fine. I don't at all think that RayDyn or any particular member of the armed services is a "blood thirsty killer." But anyone who joins the armed services has to confront the possibility that they might be charged with attacking and killing other people. They have to live with that decision. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said than for anyone else responding to this. He actually had to make the decision to put himself in a position where he might have to take another person's life. You all are just taking five seconds to respond to a hypothetical scenario you will never have to actually confront.
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I think you kinda know before you've actually killed someone how open you are to the idea. You don't have to be Caesar to understand Caesar or whatever.
You might not know how well you can cope afterwards (though again I'd think you'd have an idea) but that's not really the issue here.
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From: Lopen | #030 I think you kinda know before you've actually killed someone how open you are to the idea. You don't have to be Caesar to understand Caesar or whatever.
You might not know how well you can cope afterwards (though again I'd think you'd have an idea) but that's not really the issue here.
For me, the method outlined here plays a big part.
If there was someone on death row who was 100% assuredly guilty, and someone wanted to pay me $50 to push a button to do the lethal injection, I'd have no problem doing it and coping with it.
To actually have to dig down deep and quell up the anger required to kill someone who has done nothing to me personally with blunt force would be very difficult.
One-time-only, I'd do it for maybe $10,000, but no less.
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CalvinbalI posted... I thought it out just fine. I don't at all think that RayDyn or any particular member of the armed services is a "blood thirsty killer." But anyone who joins the armed services has to confront the possibility that they might be charged with attacking and killing other people. They have to live with that decision. Which is a hell of a lot more than can be said than for anyone else responding to this. He actually had to make the decision to put himself in a position where he might have to take another person's life. You all are just taking five seconds to respond to a hypothetical scenario you will never have to actually confront.
...No, you REALLY didn't think this one out any.
How can you say, with 100% certainty, that a member of the armed services is more willing to kill somebody than somebody not in them. By that logic, murderers must all be members of the armed services, since they all agreed to face the possibility of killing somebody, right? Surely, nobody that hasn't joined the armed forces and confronted that possibility could EVER kill somebody!
Oh, wait. That's not right at all.
Besides, as somebody has already brought up, being willing to kill an enemy combatant when forced is very much different from killing somebody that can't fight back and is of no threat to you. And yet you're making the assumption that any member of the armed forces should be more okay with that than anybody that isn't a member. Thus, you are implying that, somehow, they're more likely to be killers.
Do you really, really not see the gaping hole in your logic.
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How can you say, with 100% certainty, that a member of the armed services is more willing to kill somebody than somebody not in them. By that logic, murderers must all be members of the armed services, since they all agreed to face the possibility of killing somebody, right?
Wow. And you are trying to lecture to me about logic? It's not even worth trying to discuss this with you.
And RayDyn, I'm sorry if you somehow took what I said in that way, and for bringing you up as the sort of impetus for a stupid debate surrounding an ever more dumb hypothetical question.
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From: JaKyL25 | #034 For me, the method outlined here plays a big part.
Etc.
Certainly. I definitely see where you're coming from, and I definitely see why people would have problems with it. I just... don't really think I would personally care. I don't know. Like maybe it gets different once you've started bashing a skull, but for me I don't think it'd even affect me like 10 minutes later. I'm not trying to sound cool or whatever-- in fact, I'm sure this makes me uncool to more people than not, but yeah, I'm just saying how it is. I don't think sickening thuds are really going to change my opinion that much that I couldn't finish the job or be traumatized afterwards.
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I am a firm believer in reciprocating punishment in these kinds of cases, but the only way I'm capable of killing is to protect myself or my loved ones. So no, I wouldn't do this - not for $5000. I can't say for certain I wouldn't do it for like, millions, because that's when a person is changed, I think. As it stands, I'm not capable to wield the bat in this case. But I do hope our hypothetical murderer is put down.
I was down until I read about the bat. I knew this wouldn't be as easy as it sounded. >__>
No way. I guess I could say yes, and then take the bat and stand in front of him, and see what happened, but there's a 99.9% chance I wouldn't be able to do it.
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I could probably live with the sight of doing it, I've seen some pretty gross things in real life, whether it be from me almost sawing my fingers off and seeing the bone in my finger, to even having my own head bashed in, both which bleed a lot, tissue was even leaking from my head which was gross. I don't think I would be able to handle the noise though, so I'm gonna go with no.
I probably would do it if I was in very desperate need of money.
DigitalIncision posted... I am a firm believer in reciprocating punishment in these kinds of cases, but the only way I'm capable of killing is to protect myself or my loved ones. So no, I wouldn't do this - not for $5000. I can't say for certain I wouldn't do it for like, millions, because that's when a person is changed, I think. As it stands, I'm not capable to wield the bat in this case. But I do hope our hypothetical murderer is put down.
Interestingly, if you increased the amount to something life changing I would feel even worse about doing this; at that point, your whole future is built on murdering some dude.
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From: Lopen | #037 I'm just saying how it is. I don't think sickening thuds are really going to change my opinion that much that I couldn't finish the job or be traumatized afterwards.
It's not just that, it's that the guy is awake and able to communicate with you.
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From: LordoftheMorons | #042 Interestingly, if you increased the amount to something life changing I would feel even worse about doing this; at that point, your whole future is built on murdering some dude.
Yeah, that's definitely a factor, which is why I'm just going with "I don't know," at that point. I don't think we can accurately say how we'd react with that money legitimately on the table.
Hell no. The trauma of that action would stay with me and haunt me for the rest of my life. I don't think people answering really are considering the action of caving his head in with repeated Baseball swings, particularly while the man is alive and able to plead with you/scream. I wouldn't do that for a million dollars.
Yes, it would be traumatizing and sickening, but there's a huge leap in self-rationalization from "I did it to pay my rent for 10 months" to "I did it to give myself the life I've always dreamed of."
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From: Azp2k32 | #045 Hell no. The trauma of that action would stay with me and haunt me for the rest of my life. I don't think people answering really are considering the action of caving his head in with repeated Baseball swings, particularly while the man is alive and able to plead with you/scream. I wouldn't do that for a million dollars.
Well .. the "man is alive/able to plead/scream" thing is true .. kind of. You can silence the guy in one swing, especially if you know what you're doing. Guy can end up not knowing you were ever there.
JaKyL25 posted... See, for a million I would definitely do it.
Yes, it would be traumatizing and sickening, but there's a huge leap in self-rationalization from "I did it to pay my rent for 10 months" to "I did it to give myself the life I've always dreamed of."
Yeah, you suddenly forget you bashed some dude's brains in when you can buy s*** you only dreamed of buying.
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To be fair I think the guy would be unconscious or unable to speak after the first few swings if you pick your swings right...! ... what?
Anyway, yeah, maybe the screams or pleading would get to me. I dunno. I'd at least accept the job without thinking twice, anyway. Maybe it'd be one of the worst decisions I ever made but what can you do.
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