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Wanglicious
01/13/12 9:02:00 PM
#201:


this week was not Plan B, this week was no plan at all on his end. but show gonna die.

(we need next week's SD to come out already.)

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JaKyL25
01/13/12 9:06:00 PM
#202:


LOL yeah, next week is against HENRY. We'll see what D Bry comes up with there!

(and this week was totally Plan B)

I just hope that there's some reasonable end in mind for this reign. If he was just gonna continue to be the same guy just now in the main event, I was fine with him dropping it in the Chamber to set up something more...palatable to the masses at WM, but if they're gonna invest the creative effort to turn him like this, then he needs to hold it until WM and then some face needs to take him down there.

But that face can't be Orton or else any moral the tale could potentially have gets completely wasted.

...Rey?

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/13/12 9:07:00 PM
#203:


You don't know that wasn't a part of a plan yet!

If that's the case, you'd have to assume that he never got himself intentionally DQ'd by Mark Henry either!

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Wanglicious
01/13/12 9:07:00 PM
#204:


if HE RETURNS then the reason for the reign explains itself!

also it's probably a triple threat. <___<;

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JaKyL25
01/13/12 9:11:00 PM
#205:


SETH ROLLINS wins the Royal Rumble and faces Daniel Bryan at WM, proving that he has learned from their 2009 trilogy and has now surpassed the American Dragon!

...heck I'm stumped as far as WM opponents for Bryan.

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Wanglicious
01/13/12 9:12:00 PM
#206:


oh come on.
ANTONIO faces him.

but seriously, i do think they're going back to that script. they abandoned it then and rightfully so - too soon and it makes for a much better heel turn situation

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JaKyL25
01/13/12 9:14:00 PM
#207:


Or else maybe this happens:

Bryan retains at the Rumble due to shenanigans.

Barrett wins the Rumble.

Barrett chooses the WHC right away due to his previous dominance over Bryan on NXT and on SmackDown.

At the Elimination Chamber, Orton steals Kofi's spot and enters the match and wins the title.

Wade is now STUCK with his WHC decision and has gotten himself stuck into a match with the one guy who wants to kill him more than anyone else.

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JaKyL25
01/13/12 9:16:00 PM
#208:


Or heck, maybe they just feed Heel Bryan to Sheamus at WM and we can get the match we wanted last year but with alignments swapped and for a bigger title.

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MartinFF7
01/13/12 9:19:00 PM
#209:


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JaKyL25
01/13/12 9:53:00 PM
#210:


Fun Fact:

Between WWE and TNA, there have already been 10 televised title matches in 2012 (including 5 World Title matches!) in only 13 days, resulting in absolutely zero title changes.

Who will the the first Champion to fall in the new year?

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MartinFF7
01/13/12 9:59:00 PM
#211:


From: JaKyL25 | #210
Fun Fact:

Between WWE and TNA, there have already been 10 televised title matches in 2012 (including 5 World Title matches!) in only 13 days, resulting in absolutely zero title changes.

Who will the the first Champion to fall in the new year?


I'm gonna say... Air Boom.

HUNICO/CAMACHO/BIKE TAG TEAM CHAMPS

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Lopen
01/13/12 10:02:00 PM
#212:


I put my money on Crimson and Morgan to drop first.

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Wanglicious
01/13/12 10:21:00 PM
#213:


i'll go with beth.
yep.

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ScareChan
01/13/12 11:26:00 PM
#214:


If Crimson and Morgan came to WWE they would beat Air Boom on debut night and go undefeated for 19 months

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 6:05:00 AM
#215:


I guess a better question might be who will be the LAST Champion to fall in the new year?

Maybe TV Champion Robbie E. because TNA likes to forget that title exists for months at a time?

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greatone10
01/14/12 6:14:00 AM
#216:


"Jinder Mahal is most dangerous when least expected."

My god could this guy get any less interesting?

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X_Dante_X
01/14/12 6:21:00 AM
#217:


From: JaKyL25 | #208
Or heck, maybe they just feed Heel Bryan to Sheamus at WM and we can get the match we wanted last year but with alignments swapped and for a bigger title.

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Panthera
01/14/12 6:34:00 AM
#218:


As much as I like all the debate over the Bryan/Show/Henry angle, I can't help but feel that no matter how much we try to make sense of it and come up with ways to make it into a compelling story, the fact will remain that the WWE probably doesn't care, and hasn't planned any of it out beyond "we need the Show/Bryan thing to be unresolved so when we get a Henry/Bryan unresolved match, we can book a triple threat for the Rumble" and Bryan will immediately drop his entire established personality as soon as a week comes where it isn't specifically needed (exactly like Christian did last summer).

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Panthera
01/14/12 6:54:00 AM
#219:


Also, another interesting question about Bryan that is more applicable since it's there in any scenario where Bryan keeps going heel.

Should Michael Cole hate heel Bryan?

It's an interesting dilemma. Character consistency demands he does it, and the WWE should do everything it can to actually have consistent personalities, since that's rather rare. But then you have the problem where the entire announce team will be constantly burying him, which doesn't sound like it could possibly work out well.

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 6:56:00 AM
#220:


I think there's a happy medium.

"You know, Daniel Bryan may be a total nerd, but I can't say I disagree with his tactics here. He's doing what he has to do to win! HOW CAN YOU FAULT THAT BOOKER?"

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Panthera
01/14/12 7:29:00 AM
#221:


I have my doubts that Cole is actually capable of doing that. It would end up the way it is now, where he "admits Bryan is a good wrestler" by mentioning "Bryan isn't that bad" once for every ten minutes he spends ranting about how Bryan has never won anything in his career and is totally incompetent.

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/14/12 8:37:00 AM
#222:


What was weird was that the heel, Michael Cole, was talking about how much Daniel Bryan sucks for having to cheat. And the face, Booker T, was talking about how he likes that DB got himself disqualified and did whatever he could to get out with his title and how he's still NUMBER ONE ON HIS FAVE FIVE.

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Tom Bombadil
01/14/12 8:38:00 AM
#223:


clearly Bryan is channeling Eddie Guerrero

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Maniac64
01/14/12 9:42:00 AM
#224:


I actually like the idea of Rey vs Heel DB. Since Rey has basically been in the same situation but went about it in a very different way. For Rey there is no Plan B, he wins or he loses but either way it will be based on whether he can beat the guy in the ring fair and square. As Jakyl said when DB faces Goliath he has a slingshot that fires rockets, when Rey faces Goliath he tells him to drop his armor and sword and face him like a man.

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/14/12 9:49:00 AM
#225:


IAmJericho Chris Jericho
TSA Agent-"Sir, why do u have a rhinestone, studded, crystaled leather jacket with lights on it?" Me-"Long story...."

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Maniac64
01/14/12 9:53:00 AM
#226:


hahaha

He should have put it on and turned it on.

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MartinFF7
01/14/12 10:07:00 AM
#227:


Put it on, then run around the terminal shouting YEAH

YEAH
YEAH
COME ON!!!
YEAH!!!!!

And then he starts to cry when the TSA agents have their way with him.

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SmartMuffin
01/14/12 10:08:00 AM
#228:


*Jericho points at the TSA agents who cheer*

*Jericho points at the people in line for the checkpoint who cheer*

*repeat for 10 minutes*

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edwardsdv
01/14/12 10:15:00 AM
#229:


OrJaKyL25 posted...
Or else maybe this happens:

Bryan retains at the Rumble due to shenanigans.

Barrett wins the Rumble.

Barrett chooses the WHC right away due to his previous dominance over Bryan on NXT and on SmackDown.

At the Elimination Chamber, Orton steals Kofi's spot and enters the match and wins the title.

Wade is now STUCK with his WHC decision and has gotten himself stuck into a match with the one guy who wants to kill him more than anyone else.


This is my favorite hypothetical. Orton continues to screw kofi, orton /Barrett gets a big blowoff, with comeuppance a plenty for Barrett.

Plus sd isn't about Bryan for thenext 3 months... the only downside is short
of a headpunt after chamber, Bryan never gets whats coming to him.

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TimJab
01/14/12 1:44:00 PM
#230:


tag

what happened that filled up the last topic so quickly?

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 2:41:00 PM
#231:


All-purpose wrestling discussion.

Mostly involving the Funkasaurus, Flat Tires, and lack of Punk, I think?

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Panthera
01/14/12 2:49:00 PM
#232:


Should I watch Raw this Monday yes/no?

I feel like I'm getting into that phase where every few years, I get fed up with pro wrestling and just stop paying attention to it for a year or three. I'm just not interested in much that's going on right now beyond CM Punk, Dolph Ziggler (and as much as I like them feuding, that does mean fewer interesting segments than if they were in separate programs), and seeing where this Daniel Bryan thing leads. Kane to a lesser extent. I feel like if given the ability to know in advance exactly which segments would contain which people, those people and the Funkasaurus are the only people I'd watch. Even Ryder and Barrett aren't motivating me much, and I like those guys a lot.

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 2:51:00 PM
#233:


If you like Kane appearing in segments, you'll like a lot of Raw! <_<

I thought Raw was pretty well-done and entertaining in spite of having only one watchable match, but others disagree.

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DeathChicken
01/14/12 2:53:00 PM
#234:


Smackdown on the other hand is pretty damn great right now, with Bryan doing his slow heel turn

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 2:55:00 PM
#235:


True, although as Lopen noted, this was probably the worst SD with regard to match quality in a long time.

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Panthera
01/14/12 3:00:00 PM
#236:


From: JaKyL25 | #233
If you like Kane appearing in segments, you'll like a lot of Raw! <_<

I thought Raw was pretty well-done and entertaining in spite of having only one watchable match, but others disagree.


I didn't mind Raw too much this past week (although I turned it off when Jericho's appearance didn't immediately involve him doing something actually interesting), I'm just finding myself dreading the shows every week. Kane being a creepy stalker was kind of funny at least, though from what I've heard the final segment involved him and Ryder and Eve and was apparently awful.

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 3:04:00 PM
#237:


Oh I thought you were asking if you should watch THIS Monday's raw. My bad.

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Panthera
01/14/12 3:11:00 PM
#238:


Oh <_<

Yeah I watched most of this weeks Raw on the repeat, it's this upcoming week where I'm debating whether or not WWE programming will trump playing more Skyrim or something.

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JaKyL25
01/14/12 3:18:00 PM
#239:


Well I vote yes but I also like wrestling more than video games. <_<

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Lopen
01/14/12 4:39:00 PM
#240:


Get a handheld console and "half watch" Raw, letting the handheld occupy more of your attention than not. Or a laptop with Skyrim. If something presumably interesting comes up then give it your full attention. Usually I'll fully watch the matches and the more interesting interviews, mostly ignoring the clips and the zzz interviews. Very rarely does it turn out that I feel like I missed something I needed to see.

Honestly this is how I watch wrestling these days. The televised product hasn't been worth my full attention in a long time.

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SmartMuffin
01/14/12 4:40:00 PM
#241:


Roode promising title shots that he has no intention of delivering is so derivative of Christian's run(s) in TNA! Roode was around during that time, too, so he should know that it didn't end particularly well!

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PrivateBiscuit1
01/14/12 8:29:00 PM
#242:


Listening to Here to Show the World makes me feel so much better after high annoyance for some reason.

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Rad Link 5
01/14/12 9:16:00 PM
#243:


I just switched to Universal HD where last week's Raw is rerunning, and the CM Punk vs Jack Swagger ending was definitely a botch. Punk looked like he was saying "NO, I have to do the Anaconda Vice!" and then got up and started shouting right in the ref's face. Then after having his arm raised, he turned his head to shout a few more things at the ref, who looked sort of scared for his job.

And then after calming down, he started taunting Ziggler about how he'd won and didn't look angry at all.

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Rad Link 5
01/14/12 10:19:00 PM
#244:


"I'm talking to you, HeymanRules512!"

HeymanRules512

Incredible.

Also incredible: external image

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ExThaNemesis
01/14/12 11:53:00 PM
#245:




I think this may actually be my favorite match ever. Back then my best friend and I were full-on cult of Jeff Hardy worship. Like, we weren't quite as bad as Icehawk, but getting close anyway. So when this match happened, we were both living and dying with everything because we were still young enough to believe Jeff could actually win.

Even now I still get some of the chills from hearing JR's announcing and remembering how my friend and I were screaming our lungs out for Jeff to do it.

It's so disappointing what Jeff Hardy let himself become.

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GTM
01/15/12 12:03:00 AM
#246:


My first match ever and what got me into wrestling >_>;

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Lopen
01/15/12 12:14:00 AM
#247:


Just rewatched it. Really good stuff.

Almost as amazing as the match is the fact that it's an 18 minute segment with no commercial breaks. I miss the days of good long matches on TV.

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XIII_rocks
01/15/12 12:32:00 AM
#248:


Yipee now my ringtone is Cody Rhodes' "new" theme

Needed a change from DX

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MartinFF7
01/15/12 6:43:00 AM
#249:


From: XIII_rocks | #248
Yipee now my ringtone is Cody Rhodes' "new" theme

Needed a change from DX


Now hang on - are we talking the full mp3 or the version that he walks out to?

Like when someone phones, does the ringtone immediately go "WAAAAAHHHH OHHHHH" or does it have that ~10 second preamble?

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XIII_rocks
01/15/12 6:51:00 AM
#250:


It immediately goes WOOOAAAHHH

I almost made my text alert the "WOOAAAHHH" but decided against it.

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