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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:49:13 AM
#32
EndOfDiscOne posted...
I'm thinking of some of my clients that have over $100 million in revenue. One of them in headquartered in rural Southern Illinois, in a town 98% white according to Wikipedia. Good luck trying to diversify that board lol.


The problem is in assuming that white people can't be diverse and that non-white people are automatically diverse. That assumption would be racist.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:30:17 AM
#26
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Fuck Warren. She tweeted support for AOC's insane new plan, which includes giving illegal aliens federal welfare benefits at citizens' expense.


Im just responding to Admiral saying that he's glad Bernie has no chance because of this, but I think Warren does have a chance


As far as I know Bernie has not tweeted support for open borders and the general lunacy of having citizen wealth be redistributed to illegals, so he is still viable in my book.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:29:35 AM
#25
The Admiral posted...
pls posted...
but isn't it a good thing if more companies do profit sharing or give stock as part of compensation?


If the company decides that this is what's best to motivate workers, by all means. But the government should not be forcing them to do it, nor should they have any say in what it means to "give" ownership to employees.


But we all know most companies won't want to do it willingly, out of greed, even if they can. They are too short sighted.

Imo it would be much better if more workers had a vested interest in their company and their performance on a global level. We need to get more workers to be financially savvy about how stock and businesses work.

You saw yesterday how financially illiterate so many CEmen are. There are risks to that, because at some point the masses will just take out pitchforks due to being fed nonsense about "income inequality" and never questioning whether or not that narrative is true.

If we can get more workers plugged into investing and stock and equity in the company, there'd be more basic understanding of how wealth building works.

Imo in the long run it'd be a good thing.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:26:25 AM
#22
Balrog0 posted...
hasnt warren already proposed this kind of thing? the worker representation on corporate boards I mean


Fuck Warren. She tweeted support for AOC's insane new plan, which includes giving illegal aliens federal welfare benefits at citizens' expense.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:24:23 AM
#18
The Admiral posted...
The plan will give workers an ownership stake in the companies they work for, break up corrupt corporate mergers and monopolies, and finally make corporations pay their fair share


Where are all the jokers who like to say things like "Bernie isn't even that far left!!!"

Literally "seize the means" bullshit in his platform. Thank God this clowm has no chance.


I may be overly charitable to Bernie because I like his massive investment into fighting the climate crisis which is all I care about, but isn't it a good thing if more companies do profit sharing or give stock as part of compensation?

I had stock options and RSUs at my previous job and they were great. Motivated me to work harder so the stock value could go up. Felt like it was my company too, rather than me just being an employee
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:23:02 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
According to the website, the plan would also require companies that are publicly traded or have at least $100 million in annual revenue or at least $100 million in their balance sheet total to give workers 2% of their stock until employees own at least 20 percent of the company.


Seize the means of production, but slowly so nobody notices.


I mean it would be good to give workers more ownership of the company in the form of profit sharing and stock, so they benefit from the rise in stock too.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:22:27 AM
#15
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Remember when the left insisted they aren't after race quotas in hiring? Now they're aiming to have the government tell you who to hire based solely on the basis of skin color.


I'm not even sure what the plan means or that its compatible with itself. Like what if the workers elect all white dudes to represent them on the board


Apparently that would be racism because disparities are racist. Or something.
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TopicBernie and institutional racism
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10/14/19 11:15:48 AM
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Remember when the left insisted they aren't after race quotas in hiring? Now they're aiming to have the government tell you who to hire based solely on the basis of skin color.
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TopicCult-Followed, Anti-LGBTQ Chicken Restaurant makes full UK Debut
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10/14/19 11:08:53 AM
#8
This is blatant trolling.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
pls
10/14/19 12:30:56 AM
#56
RoadsterUFO posted...
pls posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
pls posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
The average person on CE has never read a single economics book in their life, and it definitely shows.


I mean yeah, why do you think there are so many fucking communists here?


I blindly shilled for Bernie Sanders years ago strictly based on social wedge issues. Guys like Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman put some common sense into me and made it easy for me to comprehend the ridiculousness of Breadline Bernies mathematically illiterate policies.


Lol'd at "Breadline Bernie"

Yeah he's got some really insane views. I like him because he is right about needing to change how we do healthcare and I value the size of his investment into fighting climate change since the climate crisis is my #1 issue.


Anti-nuclear energy old white socialists like Bernie and Warren are the left-wing equivalent of climate change is fake right-wingers.


I'm not anti nuclear, but solar and wind are much cheaper to install and can be installed much more quickly than nuclear. There are also many benefits to decentralization of energy production, which you don't really get from nuclear reactions.

More resiliency, easier to upgrade piecemeal as tech improves, easier for communities to manage the energy for quality rather than profit (similar to community-run internet), etc.

More nuclear would be nice but it takes a long time to build and has to be managed by a central authority.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:27:48 AM
#54
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
Broseph_Stalin posted...
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
The next response will be "but if communism is so great it should be able to withstand being shunned from participation in the global economy"

Edit: oh there it is

Someone is probably going to point out how fucking disastrous communism is

Edit: lol there it is!

This doesn't actually follow at all from what I said


What are your thoughts on seizing the means of production, buddy?
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TopicWould a Metal Gear actually be a viable weapon?
pls
10/14/19 12:27:22 AM
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It'd really be the only way to seize the means of production.
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TopicIs pubg still in early access?
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10/14/19 12:26:12 AM
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Lol
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:25:48 AM
#52
RoadsterUFO posted...
pls posted...
RoadsterUFO posted...
The average person on CE has never read a single economics book in their life, and it definitely shows.


I mean yeah, why do you think there are so many fucking communists here?


I blindly shilled for Bernie Sanders years ago strictly based on social wedge issues. Guys like Thomas Sowell and Milton Friedman put some common sense into me and made it easy for me to comprehend the ridiculousness of Breadline Bernies mathematically illiterate policies.


Lol'd at "Breadline Bernie"

Yeah he's got some really insane views. I like him because he is right about needing to change how we do healthcare and I value the size of his investment into fighting climate change since the climate crisis is my #1 issue.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:23:48 AM
#51
jumi posted...
pls posted...
I mean yeah, why do you think there are so many fucking communists here?


Are you two and The Admiral gonna get a room, or suck each other off right here?


TC and Bezos are already fucking in the only room left, we need to wait our turn since space is being rationed comrade
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:22:45 AM
#49
le-seul-dieu posted...
@pls what material do you recommend? Kudlow? perhaps Cramer?


Adam Smith's The Wealth of Nation's, followed by everything Milton Friedman and everything Thomas Sowell.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:19:41 AM
#45
le-seul-dieu posted...
oh yes daddy bezo, steal my wages. oh god i'm so close. OHHH YES FUCK!


Lmao
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:17:43 AM
#40
RoadsterUFO posted...
The average person on CE has never read a single economics book in their life, and it definitely shows.


I mean yeah, why do you think there are so many fucking communists here?
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:09:03 AM
#29
Giblet_Enjoyer posted...
le-seul-dieu posted...
imagine being so ignorant of history that your only rebuttal is a video of a soviet supermarket in the collapsing years of the USSR after decades of embargo by world powers. @pls

The next response will be "but if communism is so great it should be able to withstand being shunned from participation in the global economy"


Marx promoted a self-sufficient local economy, not one reliant on exports and global markets. One more local. Which the Soviets tried to implement. Their actual problems were all inherent to their own politics, not what anyone else did in America or what have you.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/14/19 12:07:52 AM
#28
Capitalism so late that it outlasts the starvation and cannibalism amongst the Soviet comrades
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TopicWhy don't I see any Native Americans in their own country?
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10/14/19 12:01:03 AM
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@IShall_Run_Amok you realize that the land didn't belong to any singular tribe because they were fighting over land and territories even before the first Europeans arrived, right? So there is no former "owner" to give it back to. And the government did make amends for its part in the barbarism of the age.

You also realize that what you are promoting is very close to anti-government domestic terrorism? Literally advocating the shutdown of government and law and order.
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TopicWhy don't I see any Native Americans in their own country?
pls
10/13/19 11:50:33 PM
#46
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
pls posted...
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...

"We" didn't do anything. People who lived a long time ago did.

Actually, the U.S. government is still intact, and did indeed do those things.


You realize it is composed entirely of different people and has evolved considerably since then, right? And has made amends directly to the affected parties.

Patting itself on the back for not killing all of the Native Americans doesn't atone for the guilt of killing many of them. That institution still exists, and is responsible, and the people who represent it still represent those actions. That's how institutions work. They are perfectly free to completely abandon the U.S. government and work towards, instead, something better. Giving the U.S. government the death penalty, so to speak.


LMAO what the fuck are you even blabbering about?
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Topic5 million, but vegy's soul is sold to satan.
pls
10/13/19 11:41:07 PM
#2
What's the down side?

JK vegy I love you
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TopicIn ancient Rome they gave citizenship for military veterans
pls
10/13/19 11:37:25 PM
#3
Hmmmm that is an interesting idea.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:30:15 PM
#24
Technically @le-seul-dieu is right that billionaires didn't create the concept of stores.

The comrades in the Soviet Union had stores, after all! Like this one:



Must be one of those "best" stores TC was referring to
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
pls
10/13/19 11:28:19 PM
#130
DarkChozoGhost posted...
The bill makes it so that they can't be denied these things solely based on their immigration status. They would still need jobs with legitimate pay stubs (therefore they'd be contributing tax money) to qualify for any of these programs.


Illegal immigrants are not allowed to work here, so how would they have pay stubs and the credentials needed to qualify for these programs?

And even if they somehow did, they'd still be taking out more than they put in. That's what the welfare benefits indicate. Which means a redistribution of wealth from citizens to people who shouldn't even be working here.

DarkChozoGhost posted...
We have an extremely strict vetting system. Unless you marry in or have parents/children, it takes well over a decade to gain citizenship, and even then it's difficult. We don't give out nearly enough green cards.

There are very few developed nations that are harder to immigrate to legally.


Do Canada and the Norwegian countries take in a comparable number of people (compared to the total population in those countries) and are they stricter in terms of accepting only people with an education and good career prospects?
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TopicWhy don't I see any Native Americans in their own country?
pls
10/13/19 11:24:53 PM
#44
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
AmericaTheBrave posted...

"We" didn't do anything. People who lived a long time ago did.

Actually, the U.S. government is still intact, and did indeed do those things.


You realize it is composed entirely of different people and has evolved considerably since then, right? And has made amends directly to the affected parties.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:21:09 PM
#20
billcom6 posted...
but I could be one one day!!!!


Being a billionaire, probably not. Being a multi millionaire? It's definitely doable and achievable if you try. Anyone with a decent career and a 401k can become a millionaire by the time they retire, and earlier depending on level of effort and career trajectory.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:18:24 PM
#16
le-seul-dieu posted...
pls posted...
Keep in mind the vast majority of the board is still living at home, working part-time or not at all. They also don't know basic math and basic finance.
I literally work in finance, stfu.


Sure, sure. I bet you even work in the same office as @The_Admiral
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:13:00 PM
#10
The Admiral posted...
LMAO at the wealth jealousy on this board.


Keep in mind the vast majority of the board is still living at home, working part-time or not at all. They also don't know basic math and basic finance.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:12:04 PM
#8
le-seul-dieu posted...
State capitalism isn't communism or socialism read some theory. @pls


Yes it is.
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:10:42 PM
#5
Crony corporatism isn't capitalism, read some books. @le-seul-dieu
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Topiclmao at the people who shill for billionaires and aren't billionaires
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10/13/19 11:08:09 PM
#2
lmao at the people who support communists and aren't gonna be the ruling party

just lmao
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Topicbillionaires earned their weal-
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10/13/19 11:06:02 PM
#144
@Goats
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Topicbillionaires earned their weal-
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10/13/19 10:58:44 PM
#141
1337toothbrush posted...
pls posted...
You can earn above the median wage if you just push yourself and spend time on improving yourself and learning valuable skills.

After that becoming a millionaire is just a matter of time if you save and invest a bit each month.

It isn't rocket science people.

Everyone can earn above median wage!


You're finally understanding something. Yes they can! In fact, most workers will throughout their working career earn more money and far surpass the median wage they were earning prior.

https://www.bankrate.com/personal-finance/median-salary-by-age/

The median wage when you start working is certainly not where you are capped. And most workers will move up the ranks in terms of pay. Unless you stagnate or never bother to make something of yourself.
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Topicbillionaires earned their weal-
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10/13/19 10:39:50 PM
#136
You can earn above the median wage if you just push yourself and spend time on improving yourself and learning valuable skills.

After that becoming a millionaire is just a matter of time if you save and invest a bit each month.

It isn't rocket science people.
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Topic"Japan is so unified and culturally homogenous"
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10/13/19 10:38:05 PM
#65
ssjevot just wanna say you're really fucking cool. Always enjoyed your posts and now I find out you're actually a Japanese mountain sensei all along. Super cool.
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Topicis 128gb too small for an SSD
pls
10/13/19 8:21:06 PM
#4
Yes, and also a good rule of thumb is that the smaller the ssd, the worse the performance. Go for a 512 gb minimum.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
pls
10/13/19 5:10:05 PM
#114
shockthemonkey posted...
pls posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
DOA


Probably. But the far left has played it's hand too soon and now we know what they want and who not to vote for. Elizabeth Warren = joke candidate

lmao


She supported this drivel.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 5:09:42 PM
#112
Balrog0 posted...
pls posted...
Fundamentally we need to continue vetting people competitively


I dont really understand what that means, we don't have a points system like the other countries you mention. Are you saying like we should expand the h1b program or something like that?


We need to be more strict regarding who we take in. Do they have a family who can help with supporting them if they need support? Do they have the means to work? Are they engaged or married to someone who is a citizen? What skills and work experience or education do they have? Etc.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 5:08:29 PM
#111
JE19426 posted...
What a strange non-sequilar.


I don't think you understand what a non sequitur is.

JE19426 posted...
And how does that changes based on whether your family just arrived in the US ,or they have lived in the US before it was the US?


The point is that illegal aliens don't wait, thereby cutting people in line and making the system more complex for everyone else. They also take the opportunities and benefits that should be reserved for citizens.
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Topicbillionaires earned their weal-
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10/13/19 5:04:26 PM
#120
I can't believe people still fall for "if you made thousands per day for 500 years Bezos would still have more"

It's such a drivel argument
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 5:03:05 PM
#107
Balrog0 posted...
I don't think it makes sense to do this instead of addressing the fundamental immigration issue


Fundamentally we need to continue vetting people competitively. We cannot and should not take in everyone. We contribute a lot of resources and funds abroad to help. We could even do more despite how charitable Americans are in general.

But increasing immigration speed to the point where we effectively have open borders isn't sustainable either. We can't help everyone, sorry to say.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 4:57:31 PM
#100
Solid Snake07 posted...
DOA


Probably. But the far left has played it's hand too soon and now we know what they want and who not to vote for. Elizabeth Warren = joke candidate
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 4:54:48 PM
#97
JE19426 posted...
How does that effect your opinion of immigrants that didn't do that?


Deport them ASAP. They're not looked well upon by legal immigrants.

JE19426 posted...

Why is that changed based on how your own family got here?


Because we still have family waiting to come, but these other people sneak in and ruin the process for everyone. They take advantage of the system.
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Topic"There were almost 15,000 knife crimes recorded in London last year
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10/13/19 4:52:32 PM
#10
Tyranthraxus posted...
BlingBling22947 posted...
the highest since records began.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-49774459

At least they arent using guns as much, right?


If they were using guns there would be a lot more dead.

So yes.


That is not necessarily true. Depends on where the injury is.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
pls
10/13/19 4:51:35 PM
#92
Tyranthraxus posted...
tennisdude818 posted...
This would turn the US into a 3rd world, hyperinflationary shithole.
Based on what projection?


Basic fucking math.
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TopicNew AOC bill to give illegal aliens welfare, disability, all federal benefits
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10/13/19 4:51:06 PM
#91
Tyranthraxus posted...
pls posted...
That would be slightly more palatable and sustainable, but I'd still rather those jobs and benefits go to citizens. If there's even 1 illegal alien taking advantage of the system, why couldn't that go to one of the millions of poor citizens instead?


What do you mean instead?

It does and this bill as proposed doesn't change that.


I'm really starting to think you're just Elon Musk's first attempt at an AI or something. What are you even saying?
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