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SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Plus I was modded for saying I believe it. Not for saying it was unequivocally true.

Saying you believe it attempts to lend it credence. If it's one of a handful of lies whose promotion is strictly prohibited (Covid denialism, 2020 election denialism, pretty much any homophobic or transphobic falsehood, probably a few others), saying you believe the lie is indeed moddable because it amounts to you saying the belief has merit.

The takeaway from that exchange should be to consider the very strong possibility that what you believe is a lie.

Cruddy_horse posted...

I missed most of the salt but I do remember wondering why tf some random league chracter was so high up in the rankings.

Either 4chan or Reddit (I forget which one) decided to rally behind him for the lulz and to troll people who took the character battle seriously.

Maybe they're hoping to drive away obviously female users to cut down on the amount of harassment from socially inept thirsty dudes they have to deal with.

Only the most wholesome content belongs on my good Christian GameFAQs.

Wow. Jen really woke up this morning and said "I think I'll sexually objectify Mark Zuckerburg today." For shame.

man101 posted...

The idea that the CE board might some day be reduced to a single digit number of people who are able to access it is actually amusing. Like a battle royale where they compete to see who can troll or insult the others hardest without being modded and banned from the board.

Paradoxically, as the number of users who can access the board dwindles, the number of users who can mark posts on the board also dwindles, which will actually make it harder to get modded.

LinkPizza posted...

Basically, something like context matters?

Precisely. Leave it open to interpretation, and people are going to interpret it as insulting and mark it accordingly. Notably, even if they weren't personally insulted, if they want to mess with you they can mark it as flaming and have it deleted accordingly, since the only excuse the mod staff need to remove the post is "somebody was insulted by this." By making an effort to communicate more clearly, you take away that option.

Without any sort of comment to provide context or indicate that you were providing an example and not engaging in a bit of sneaky name-calling?

wwinterj25 posted...

It felt good having them cleaned out after weeks of not hearing well.

I'm always amazed by how loud everything seems after I get syringed. Like I'll walk away and marvel at how much noise my pants are making as I move in them.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

So if you've been unfairly modded before that increases the likelihood that you won't be given the appropriate consideration next time.

It varies. I got warned once for something pretty innocuous because I had a recent warning on my account, and when I contested it, the mod looked a bit closer and realized the previous warning had nothing to do with the more recent moderation (which was a fair moderation, just not remotely warn-worthy) and overturned the warning. The previous warning had been a consequence of getting 6-7 moderations in short order because I was actively participating in a topic that had turned into an ASCII topic but was not properly indicated as one (which was, of course, nonsense, but that's why the ToS were amended in recent years to be a little less ridiculous), so given that it didn't track with a pattern of poor behaviour, it wasn't held against me.

That said, you don't exactly have a track record of moderations that can reasonably be called unfair, so it's a bit of a moot point in your case.

Did I guess wrong that you posted only the link?

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Mods don't just wander around looking for victims to persecute you.

That said, regardless of the number of people marking, they're a lot more lenient to people with clean moderation histories. If you've been modded a lot recently, it's best to lie relatively low for a few months.

Sufferedphoenix posted...

.I take it just serious enough I probably will be legit sad when it dies. Been using it since at least 98

Pretty much this. Perusing and posting on the boards has been a background activity for me for 20+ years. I wouldn't necessarily call it super valuable, but I'll definitely miss it when it does eventually get shut down.

I won't, however, put any actual effort or especially money into mourning its loss. It'll just leave a weird void in my roster of low-commitment time wasters.

Revelation34 posted...

None of those changes were good.

I mean, if you preferred the old method of "copy text, paste text on to a separate new post page, italicize text (using manual html tags) because that's just the accepted convention for quoting, hope you don't need to quote more than one post because everything you've written might disappear if you try to go back to the topic," I guess you might have a problem with the quote button, but given that you're using the quote button instead of the manual approach (which is still available), I kind of doubt you actually preferred it.

Revelation34 posted...

There was the one where I got modded for linking to the dodo
Wikipedia page during a discussion about extinct animals on and got modded for "insulting users"

Because you're you, I'm going to guess that your entire response consisted of the link to the Dodo's page, which leaves quite a bit of ambiguity as to whether you're doing that to share information on the page or just to call others "dodos." That ambiguity could have been removed if you gave some context for your link instead of expecting people to read your minds, so I'll say fair, next.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

but realistically, he "lost the fight but won the war" in both cases.

That's kind of how I'm thinking. He's clearly victorious overall, which makes it kind of silly to fixate on him "losing" fights.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

I'd disagree about Dormammu.

Strange didn't beat him in a fight. He lost to him over and over and over again. What he did was outsmart him. Which is sort of a different thing.

I'd still disagree. "Losing" implies that the outcome wasn't what Strange wanted/expected, which wasn't the case. He expected to be killed repeatedly, and in fact wanted Dormammu to take that bait so he'd be locked in a loop that would drive him insane. Viewed narrowly, it's hard to think of "you died in this fight" as anything other than a loss, but it is what Strange wanted to happen and neither Strange nor anyone that would miss him actually perceived those deaths, so characterizing them as losses doesn't make a lot of sense.

We all become Squidward in one way or another. It is inevitable.

https://imgur.com/hLpeJ0T

He won against Dormammu. Dormammu himself is the only one that was able to perceive Strange's losses there, so there's really no reason to count them as losses from a broader standpoint (especially where the sheer volume of losses is how Strange ultimately won). By extension, even of Dormammu was the one to actually do Kaecilius in, that was a direct consequence of Strange's actions, so there's no reason not to call that a win for Strange.

NemesisOgreKing posted...

The terminally online, amirite.

And I imagine they're pretty quick to call others "terminally online," too.

Nichtcrawler-X posted...

Longbows, +Range Skills, Boots, +Movement Skills, Teleportation Staves and Dancers are all options to deal with that, depending on the specific game in question.

None of those solve the most critical problem with Archers/Snipers, which is that they can't do anything during the enemy phase unless they're attacked by another archer or a mage that couldn't get closer. They can dish out lots of damage very safely during the player phase, but that's still just 1-2 attacks per round (potentially 2-4 with a dancer or equivalent), after which they're mostly useless until the next player phase. Classes that can counterattack more consistently, though, can potentially throw out dozens of attacks per round, allowing them to dish out far more total damage and making it easier to level them without directly favouring them (especially when paired with Vantage or similar skills).

If memory serves, FE10's legendary bow had a 1-3 range, which made Deadeye a very nice class once you blessed that weapon and could use it indefinitely, but even that's pretty niche and really only applies for the last 3-4 maps of the game.

I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that if you weren't able to maintain enough karma to get in now, you're probably exactly the sort of person the quarantine is meant to keep out.

It's probably just wax or something (especially if you were cleaning with a q-tip), but either way the clinic's the way to go. They should be able to pull out anything that doesn't require sedation or anaesthetic to get, and if it's wax, they can syringe you. It's not really an emergency at all.

BoomerKuwanger posted...

Please go to Reddit if you are going to say someone "went surprised Pikachu"

I am deeply and profoundly Surprised Pikachu'd that you would say such a thing to a fellow GameFAQer.

You could always not refuse to report people. You can have your own guidelines for doing so, of course, like not marking people just to spoil something you consider to be harmless fun instead of taking it upon yourself to enforce the ToS, but if you identify somebody that's just pissing you off and contributing nothing of value beyond that, there's nothing wrong with taking the "mark and move on" approach instead of engaging and getting pissed off further.

I can kind of understand the rationale of the judge not rescinding the divorce just because the lawyers said they'd made a mistake, since that's a big decision to make without consulting the affected parties (though so is finalizing the divorce in the first place, so maybe that's where the extra scrutiny actually belongs), but doubling down on that when the affected parties are contesting the decision is indeed pretty weird. I get the vibe that the judge is using this as a protest against computer-based filing, as sort of a "look what your newfangled technology did, now I'm going to make you live with it."

SinisterSlay posted...

I'm not sure what the consequences are though. Can't you just go back to a judge, maybe a smarter one, and get married again? If you didn't actually mean to divorce then no one is arguing over assets or anything.

While it doesn't actually say it in the article, the fact that they only talk about Mrs. Williams petitioning for the decision to be reversed gives me the impression that the affected couple were in the process of getting a divorce of their own, and this order finalized it before everything had been sorted out (most likely in a state favouring Mr. Williams, given his lack of protest). I don't think it's a matter of just accidentally divorcing a happily married couple who could just get married again (possibly with the law firm footing the bill for the new certificate).

argonautweakend posted...

I heard the real story is they got bought out by some venture capital firm with the goal of tanking it to somehow appease investors or make money(I am not knowledgeable about venture capitalists other than i was told I should try eating one some day)

I could believe it was either a short-selling scheme or a matter of tanking the value to sell stocks cheaply to a group of investors who would then make bank when the business re-opened. Both are ostensibly illegal, since that qualifies as insider trading, but "illegal" is more of a gentle suggestion in the investment world than anything with real consequences attached to it.

Revelation34 posted...

None of those changes were good.

You used the quote feature to make that comment.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Apparently now, no one can discuss the thing that got me modded. So there's little chance of the subject coming up again.

That specific subject, no. Discussions in which your overall mindset will get you into trouble if you don't adjust it? That's more likely.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I wouldn't do that over GameFAQs' PM service. I vaguely recall a notion that someone got modded for sharing a moderation over PM.

You can get modded for sharing moddable content of any sort over a PM, but the only way for that to happen is if the recipient marks you. It'd be a pretty massive dick move of me to invite you to PM me something then mark you for it, such that you could easily get me penalized pretty heavily for trolling if I did such a thing. Pinky swear promise, I won't mark it. I do genuinely believe you're trying to understand and you're just having trouble connecting the dots, not that you're actually trying to be malicious, so if I can help you connect the dots, that's a win in my books.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Well that's just it, isn't it? I have no way of knowing how unassailable it is if I can't discuss it.

That line of thinking is exactly why I say you shouldn't be proud of your consistency: If you can't refine your own opinions by trying to assail them yourself, you aren't thinking critically about the subject. You're deciding on a position, then waiting for somebody else to put in the legwork to prove you wrong.

Getting other people's input through debate is very helpful for refining positions, yes, but you are far from being without options if you can't debate them. You can gather information yourself and conduct your own tests of your hypotheses to see if they hold up. That just requires you to actually be open-minded enough to accept that your first belief might be wrong, which is something you seem to struggle with (and, to be fair, a lot of people struggle with that to some extent or another).

Not really a meme, but meh:
https://imgur.com/dNOMMEw

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

That would be rather pointless at this juncture

It's the only way you're going to avoid another vacation. If you're going to refuse to learn how to play nice, you're going to get slapped down again for not playing nice. You got purg'd for a reason, and I can all but guarantee you that reason was not that the mods were defending Fox News.

If you really can't figure it out, PM me the post in question and I'll see if I can spell it out for you.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I do take pride in being consistent.

*insert Principal Skinner meme captioned with "Could I have done something wrong? No, it must be the mods who are out of touch!"*

Remaining consistent in the belief that you've done nothing wrong in the face of multiple different people criticizing you is not generally something to be proud of, especially when you can't even figure out what the problem is they have with you. In this case, your consistency is not because you've developed a position so robustly justified as to be unassailable, it's because you've decided to twist everything you observe into fitting with your preconceived opinion and hide behind a persecution complex whenever people have a problem with that interpretation. Don't take pride in that.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

I've been saying for years that if you aren't allowed to express one side of a discussion then discussion is not actually allowed.

Generally speaking, the discussions in which one "side" isn't permitted are discussions no decent person should ever want to have. Nine times out of ten, "I'm being persecuted for having an unpopular opinion" means something along the lines of "people didn't like me suggesting that the world would be improved if all the gay people died," which just isn't an opinion that has enough value to justify how clearly inflammatory it is. I've seen the line tossed around that "calling bigotry an opinion is like calling arsenic a flavour," and putting aside the technicality that arsenic is flavourless, I think it makes a good point: It is, technically, an opinion/flavour, but it does significantly more harm than good and there's therefore no reason to think that way or bring it up unless you're trying to hurt people.

slacker03150 posted...

I think this is the closest thing we have to clarification

And even that doesn't do much, because GameFAQs doesn't have any communities whose "main purpose" is any of those things. There are communities where such subjects come up from time to time and where there's moderate consensus on which position to back, but not communities specifically created to take such sides, so the policy has no basis for being applied in the first place and the fact that they're applying it at all means they've made up some other interpretation. That Timmy's saying "it's not possible to come up with an all-encompassing definition" while justifying a policy that needs an all-encompassing definition to be applied with any sort of consistency doesn't exactly inspire confidence that they have any idea what they want to do with this.

For that matter, that last bit saying "the intent is to use a stringent definition of politics that covers clear trolling and flame wars" means absolutely nothing has actually changed. Clear trolling and flame wars have always been moddable on every board, without any need to say "no politics allowed outside of a board that we've now quarantined." So... I really don't know what to believe, except my expectation that this will largely blow over in a couple weeks and it'll be business as usual because mods won't care enough to actively police social boards to slap down "political" topics.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

A new policy that you admit was announced 2 days ago and was not in effect 9 months ago when the moderation occurred.

Ah, I misunderstood. I thought you were talking about a moderation you got since you returned from your vacation, not the moderation that earned you said vacation. In that case, I still feel pretty comfortable assuming that you've misinterpreted what happened. The most likely issue was that one or more of the examples you gave entailed crossed one of the lines that are not tolerated, such as Covid denialism, Jan 6th denialism, or advocating for the abolition of human rights for some disenfranchised group or other. You probably won't be able to share the details without getting modded again, so I'm afraid you'll have to content yourself with that explanation and take this as an opportunity to reflect on what you did wrong and try to improve (though given that you've sat on "the mods were defending Fox News!" for nine months, I can't say I'm overly hopeful in that regard).

ParanoidObsessive posted...

Debatable. There's a fair few Asians who still use it in its original religious context and get a bit pissy when people complain about it. Sort of a "I think our thousands of years of symbolic meaning outweigh what those German a******s did with it" attitude.

It's mostly Westerners who get uptight about it (for obvious reasons).

This is true. Arguably that's not so much reclamation as it is rejecting the Nazis' efforts to despoil it, but it is nonetheless an effort to use it in a non-Nazi fashion.

ParanoidObsessive posted...

It'll actually be interesting to see what happens with it over the next few centuries, honestly. It's still a raw wound in the West because it's relatively recent, but time has a way of erasing all context and wariness.
[...]
I think we're already getting to the point where WWII is barely "real" to most of the younger generations. A few more generations and we might see a shift in how things are perceived overall.

WWII is indeed far enough away now to start being more of a hypothetical idea than a real event (at least for younger people that have never encountered a WWII veteran, which I think is the strongest tie we can have to a historical event without actually being there), but I don't know that the swastika has lost any of its Naziliciousness for the passage of that time. Mostly, I'd attribute that to the fact that neo-Nazi groups still exist and use the symbol to represent the same ideology, so swastika=Nazis is also a present-day observation and not just history. Until Nazism goes away entirely (and that's likely to be a couple centuries, if ever), I don't think we're going to get to a point where Western people think of anything other than Nazis first when a swastka shows up.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Political posting was allowed 9 months ago. Half of PotD was something of a political nature back then.

This announcement came literally two days ago. It's blindsided pretty much everyone and I don't think anyone's particularly happy with it, given how inevitably inconsistent the policy's enforcement will be and how unhealthy it is to kill off active communities like CE.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Basically I thought Fox News was insincere, commoditizing their position and not committed to it. It was not due to the coverage of any one story. There were other examples that I gave as my reason for thinking that.

Yep, I can see why that would fall under the umbrella of political posting, even without clear guidelines on what does and doesn't count. As expected, you're a victim of the new policy and not of mods taking issue with Fox News being badmouthed.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Given what agesboy just cautioned me about I don't know if I can.

Saying something along the lines of "I criticized Fox News' coverage of *insert politically-charged event here*" should be fair game, assuming that's somewhere in the ballpark of what you said. It also might not be, because the rules are extremely open-ended due to how vague the term "politics" is and nobody's been willing/able to provide any clarification. It's kind of up in the air.

If you want to play it safe, even without knowing what you had modded, I can tell you that you can probably conclude that you were modded not because the mods were defending Fox News, but because whatever you posted fell under the umbrella of "political posting." I hate to be so vague about it, but that's all I can really do with zero context.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

Did CE just become another LUE?

Basically.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

What happens to the politics special interest board?

It got shut down entirely a few months ago.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

How do I contest being denied access because of an unfair suspension?

You don't. It's a heavy-handed move made with zero regard for the social board communities, out of some misguided belief that misbehaviour on CE and political posting on non-game boards were somehow interfering with game discussion on game boards to enough of an extent to scare off potential new users. Fandom has no interest in trying to make it better for users.

SKARDAVNELNATE posted...

You once claimed to know my position better than I do. Care to explain what really happened?

Not knowing what post, context, or moderation you're talking about, I wouldn't dream of trying to explain any of the details. I'm just inclined to guess - based on your posting history and what I know about moderation practices - that you misinterpreted what happened. Occam's Razor and whatnot. If you'd like to explain the basis for your opinion, I'll be happy to clarify the details for you.

Dikitain posted...

Microwave: Please insert food
Me: FUCK YOU I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME!!!

There you go. Rage against that machine.

That's not really reclamation, given that it was used in that context specifically as Nazi symbolism.

I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that you misinterpreted what happened.

You can, but you have to include a comment on being angry at your toaster to make it clear that the machine is not metaphorical.

And if you aren't sure, you can always get testing strips.

Yeah, that's a symbol that nobody's really in a rush to reclaim.

Jen0125 posted...

My hole is getting a waterfall decoration today

Personally, I'd be concerned if there was a persistent tinkling sound coming from my hole, but to each their own.

https://imgur.com/qdOo3Cd

I thought you meant like a motorcycle helmet where it's been painted to look like a frog with the visor as the mouth, and was hoping for pictures. I'm so disappointed.

Nade_Duck posted...

to be fair getting rid of swastikas is probably about as woke as you can get.

I, for one, applaud the wokification of Nazi Germany.

Kimbos_Egg posted...

orange juice is yellow.

But orange flavour is orange.

But also real.

I occasionally see GameFAQs links show up, but they're pretty much always after Reddit and at least one SEO clickbait site like Game Rant or Game8, and there's usually a wiki link or two in there as well if it's a game that's at all popular. Sometimes it's also after video results. This is also only for less popular games. "Xenoblade 3 builds" gives a GameFAQs board link (albeit one from December 2022, making it clearly less recent than other options) as the third result, but "Elden Ring builds" doesn't give a GameFAQs link until the 46th result, putting it below the video results section, "people also ask," related searches, and even the image results section. Nobody's clicking on that.

Half the time, it's other Fandom sites that show up before GameFAQs, so I don't even know that they'd want to fix that.

I can almost guarantee "tracking success" will just be a matter of "are we making more money now?". Fandom doesn't have any particular reason to assess any finer metrics like user contentment, moderator workload, or our sense of community, they just see that GameFAQs isn't making much money, made some guesses as to what might be limiting its potential, and are trying a change that they hope will get more users in to increase ad revenue.

Of course, the actual reason GameFAQs is struggling is that game-specific wikis and video walkthroughs have rendered comprehensive text guides mostly obsolete. That left the boards as being the primary value, particularly being a single location with boards for thousands of different games (as distinct from so many forum sites in the early 2000's dedicated to just one game or series), but decades of failing to keep up with advances in forum design caused an lot of people to go elsewhere, particularly to Reddit, so the site stopped being a top destination for people looking to discuss games. Toss in that GameFAQs really doesn't do much in the SEO department, and you're left with a site that mostly only has value for looking up guides for games that are too old/obscure to have wikis or a presence on Reddit, plus the handful of holdouts that stuck with the old forum design because they liked/like it better than alternatives. I don't think there's really much potential to draw new traffic.