Lurker > UrCa1988

Good. Now to see if he follows through.
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Chunkey Simmons posted...

but he software and hardware are never built by the same company.

Did the Pixel suddenly stop existing or something?
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Capn Circus posted...

This is a perfect example of Trump not being able to do anything right in the eyes of liberals.

Trump doesn't golf after a tragedy? He wanted to go golfing, though!

Trump plays golf after a tragedy? He's golfing after what happened! How horrible!

Who does that Obama think he is using grey fucking poupon!
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No, because all the AI shit in that show is cruel as fuck.
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lilORANG posted...

also those dopes just sort of had to take him at his word that he was royal. No blood test, just "yup, go ahead and challenge the king for the throne"

We as the audience know who he is, it would just pad runtime to go through that. It's more expediency than oversight.
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Not really, never grew up in an area with a lot of them so never made friends with them. There were like, less than 10 black kids total in my high school and none of them were in my classes.
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Just sounds like they want to retain people with the promise of a higher resignation bonus next year. It's a weird way to go about it, though, a sort of "how important is it to me that I work here."
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GreatEvilEmpire posted...

And please don't tell me the sister is smarter than Stark...they just say she is without actually showing it. Not a good way to develop a character, but then again, the movie wasn't about her.

Not saying she is smarter than him, but she's the head of research and development for the entire nation. She's at least partially responsible for the creation of the suit, and given that it's practically invulnerable, speaks a lot to how smart she is.
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Just to follow artists.
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_OujiDoza_ posted...

REMercsChamp posted...

He already addressed this during his campaign - you can't find the people in the US to take those jobs

I'm willing to bet he put forth MAXIMUM effort to find those people, too.

*narrator voice* He didn't.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/powerpost/wp/2017/11/05/trump-who-urged-people-to-hire-american-secures-70-foreign-workers-for-mar-a-lago/

Before being granted permission to hire foreigners, Trumps two Florida clubs he also owns a golf course in Jupiter had to show that no one else wanted the jobs. That included calling old employees and putting ads in the newspaper.

Its unclear whether the Trump Organization had made an extra effort to try to fill the jobs.

In July, the club placed an ad on Page C8 of the Palm Beach Post: 3 mos recent & verifiable exp in fine dining/country club, the ad said. No tips, Fahrenthold reported.

The ad, which ran twice, gave no email address, mailing address or phone number and instructed applicants to Apply by fax.

Not the ad for this year's crop of workers, but you can probably bet he did the same thing.
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Bullet_Wing posted...

Sayoria posted...

This is why people fall into liking him. He builds this illusion he is your typical nobody who understands what it is like to be poor. He tries to bring about a sense of relation with people. People think "Wow, he's not just a politician. He is a standard guy who knows what it is like to be me! Finally!"But there's no similarities at all. All an illusion people fall for.

He's great at fooling people like TC who doesn't actually care about and he'd gladly throw under the bus if the tide turned.

TC would throw himself under a bus if it made "the liberals" salty.
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Before you go-go
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Just buy TurboTax and do it yourself
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Wariodorf posted...

"I believe that was a felony"
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I liked rock n rolla
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I remember him as the drug dealer from Justified. Rip in Pepperonis
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Tofu is good, tho.
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KazumaKiryu posted...

Darmik posted...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gateway_Pundit

The Gateway Pundit (TGP) is a right-wing, far-right, pro-Trump website. It was founded after the United States presidential election in 2004, according to its founder Jim Hoft, to "speak the truth" and to "expose the wickedness of the left". The website is often linked to or cited by Fox News commentator Sean Hannity, Drudge Report, Sarah Palin and other well-known conservative people and media outlets. The website is known for publishing falsehoods and spreading hoaxes.[

lol is this shit your homepage or something?

Anyone can edit Wikipedia and that entry is a blatant attack. Anything conservative is automatically far right, white nationalist, and lies. Someone on this board probably wrote that.

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/the-gateway-pundit/

Notes: The Gateway Pundit is a hard-right website that is not afraid of conspiracy theories and the occasional flirtation with outright white supremacists. Not a credible source that occasionally publishes fake news. (10/4/2016) Updated (6/20/2017)
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G.

I mean, I probably won't win, but it'll be a comfy ride I imagine, with great fuel efficiency.
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Popeyes
In n out
Jack in the box
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There'd be no inspection if it wasn't for your precious nuke!
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Literally ruminating about moderations on a videogame website from 10 years ago, holy shit.
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DeanAuryn posted...

Anyone who is against this is unpatriotic and a traitor.

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About an hour driving. It's not a huge distance, it's just LA rush hour traffic, takes like 10-15 minutes to cross the same distance when the freeway is empty.
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mustang90 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

Obama left a ticking time bomb on the stock market on his way out, this is just the first of many sabotages Trump is gonna have to clean up.

Im surprised they have internet access wherever youre institutionalized.

Well, I do work for the mental health dept...
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Obama left a ticking time bomb on the stock market on his way out, this is just the first of many sabotages Trump is gonna have to clean up.
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Wasn't there some country that did both maternal and paternal leave on the same pool that both parents could draw from? That way the cost isn't just associated with women since both parents would be able to use the time (or only one, whatever the parents decided on).
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What you're looking for is called "hentai."
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It's ok to cry
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Bullet_Wing posted...

@Zeeak4444 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/400-current-events/76264103/895247660

Never forget lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooo

Lmao.

Message is no longer available. What was it? More KazumaKiryu tantrum?

Interesting that he no longer stands by this statement. Has he finally come to terms that there's absolutely nothing to this memo?
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

GregShmedley posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.

It is frightening that people think this way.

I sincerely hope you're trolling. Jesus Christ.

Right? Seriously. You REALLY think a cold blooded murderer or a rapist is going to get better? Lol. Have them move in with you and your family if you trust them so much.

Waste of space and resources. Best to experiment on them. They found a sexual pleasure in what atrocities they do to their victims. Why should anyone be treated as a human after that?

I'm pretty sure that guy is trolling though. I really don't understand why anyone would care oh so deeply about scum.

No one is perfect and people make mistakes. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.

This is why we treat something like a crime of passion differently from a serial murderer: because human beings are not irredeemable for doing something like this, and they are capable of atoning. The inhumane thing is stripping the accused of their rights since our system is inherently flawed and there's tons of cases where people walk away from death row innocent of their crimes. Thank God no one in any position to change things thinks like Fayt does, it would be an absolutely travesty to have an innocent individual used as an unwilling test subject because of cynicism.
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That got a real good chuckle out of me.
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Yep, seen them all in theatres on release. It helps that a friend of mine was a big comic fan so he kinda dragged me along to a number of them, but I enjoyed them all at least.
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@littlebro07 posted...

Don't have time to read 300 posts.

Can someone @ me with a summary of this topic

Anteaterking posted...

There are too many terrible lines of argument in this topic to address all of them, but here are a few responses:

1. Steele was not paid to report to the FBI and it certainly isn't stated that he was so in this memo. Occasionally being an FBI contact doesn't make anything you research automatically reported to the FBI, and in fact the GPS transcript goes into great detail describing the work situation in this instance.

2. There's no indication that Steele's bias has anything to do with Trump's political positions, support for a particular party, etc. He previously described Trump as being extremely susceptible to blackmail, which is a great reason to not want someone to be president.

3. Being part of a presidential campaign does not make you immune to FISA warrants. There appears to be more than enough evidence to have a FISA warrant against Page that is unrelated to his working on the Trump campaign. Characterizing this as "spying on Trump" or "spying on his campaign" is disingenuous.

4. There's no indication that the FBI even now believes that the dossier is false. In addition, the nature of human intelligence gathering by CIA/MI6/etc. is that much of this is recounting of what specific sources said, not an endorsement of any particular piece of intelligence. This is taken into account when evaluating human intelligence.

5. Republicans and Democrats both paid for the dossier and it doesn't matter who paid for it if the person who is collecting the intelligence doesn't know who the client is (as also outlined in the GPS transcript).

Antifar posted...

Useful thread

https://twitter.com/bradheath/status/959488349684760577

This and the earlier tweet re: warrants for immigrants are both spot on. There are vague assertions by the memo that the evidence is bad for the FBI because...it was too easy for them to get a FISA warrant? That doesn't seem like a hill that the "law and order" Republicans really want to die on.

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Gotta wait to see Fox and Friend's reaction to this, that will decide the ultimate say on the matter.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not?

What if 25% of the memo is false, 25% is verifiable and 50% is inconclusive. Do you believe the memo being released is a mistake then?

No, because if they're choosing to intentionally release a document that is almost entirely false, it speaks a lot to their character considering how they were building this up as bigger than Watergate. I don't even know why you said that, it's not even a very good comparison because it just shows how wholly dishonest it would be to release such a false document when we have no way to corroborate the information given that we don't know the entire context of the FISA warrant.
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Nomadic View posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant?

Show me where the FBI has come out and said the dossier was completely false. Because Comey openly testified under oath differently.

Still dodging.

Are you ok with law enforcement using material that they know is false when they secure a warrant?

If youre not going to answer it, just tell me, and Ill stop asking.

If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not?

If its verifiable then rely on whatever the verifiable sources are.

That's what I assume Muta was getting at. I don't believe anyone is claiming the dossier is 100% true, I'm pretty sure we know a lot of it is unverified, but if the FBI is choosing to seriously consider this dossier, we can at least safely assume some (even if we don't know what) is possibly actionable intel. If some of that information matches up with what they've already got on Page given that he's already been under FBI scrutiny since 2013, that independent corroboration just solidifies what they've got on him, and if that part of the dossier was used for the warrant, would that be a bad thing?
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Nomadic View posted...

The Great Muta 22 posted...

Nomadic View posted...

They used the dossier that they knew was false. Are you ok with that as a practice? Are you ok with law enforcement using material they know is false when they secure a warrant?

Show me where the FBI has come out and said the dossier was completely false. Because Comey openly testified under oath differently.

Still dodging.

Are you ok with law enforcement using material that they know is false when they secure a warrant?

If youre not going to answer it, just tell me, and Ill stop asking.

If 25% of the intel was false, 25% verifiably true, and 50% was unverified, should we act on the verifiable 25% or not?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

darkjedilink posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts."

You put facts in quotations. Are you saying what is said in the memo that apparently we already knew is not true?
These are lies?

Intentionally omitting a large amount of information integral for context can turn truth into lies. Imagine that. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together to notice that condensing a 50-60 page document to 4 pages is going to leave out a tremendous amount of context.

Sort of like not telling a judge that you're going for a FISA warrant on a member of a Presidential campaign team based on fake info from said campaign's political rival, who is also a member of the current President's Cabinet...

when you put it that way...

Carter Page was under FBI investigation since 2014, well before he signed on with the Trump campaign. Try again.
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darkjedilink posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

darkphoenix181 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts."

You put facts in quotations. Are you saying what is said in the memo that apparently we already knew is not true?
These are lies?

Intentionally omitting a large amount of information integral for context can turn truth into lies. Imagine that. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together to notice that condensing a 50-60 page document to 4 pages is going to leave out a tremendous amount of context.

Sort of like not telling a judge that you're going for a FISA warrant on a member of a Presidential campaign team based on fake info from said campaign's political rival, who is also a member of the current President's Cabinet...

And which campaign member would that be?
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darkphoenix181 posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts."

You put facts in quotations. Are you saying what is said in the memo that apparently we already knew is not true?
These are lies?

Intentionally omitting a large amount of information integral for context can turn truth into lies. Imagine that. It doesn't take a genius to put 2 and 2 together to notice that condensing a 50-60 page document to 4 pages is going to leave out a tremendous amount of context.
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darkphoenix181 posted...

Doom_Art posted...

lilORANG posted...

LOL

so it's a summary of publicly available information?

More or less

It restates info that's been available in a somewhat angry tone

I thought the FBI director said it was inaccurate and misleading. If it is just info we already known, how could that statement be possible?

It is inaccurate and misleading in that it's cherrypicking 5% of information from a document and publishing it as "facts."
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CEs_EFG posted...

that's bullshit and you know it

"let me pay this FBI informant to gather info and expect him to not give it to the FBI!"

and even then a lot of the Info he got was directly Ohr

Steele was MI6, I don't know why you keep bringing up the FBI, and intelligence agents are always going to have a large network of sources to pull from. We don't know what information came from which source without Steele saying where it came from, and it's something the FBI is probably aware of already considering they received his information. If 50% of what Steele said was true, do you think we should act on that 50% or just throw the whole thing away because the rest is unverified?

CEs_EFG posted...

and even if he wasn't wrong why did he in fact conceal where he got that info from anyway?

Because even journalists protect their sources? Because Russia is probably not the type of regime you want your identity made public to if you're giving information to an MI6 agent?
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CEs_EFG posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

Because Steele came upon information that he felt the FBI needed to be aware of, and decided to give the information to the FBI of his own volition. This was an intelligence agent who specialized in kompromat individuals as his primary line of work.

he was paid over 160,000 by the DNC to give the info to the FBI he didn't just "decide it by his own volition"

He wasn't paid to give the information to the FBI, he was paid to do his job to begin with.
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CEs_EFG posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

We literally already know this. Neither is the fact that a republican commissioned the dossier initially before the DNC continued paying for it. This is called opposition research, and every campaign does it

that's 100% not true, opposition research does not include entities like the FBI shit that's ridiculous

Because Steele came upon information that he felt the FBI needed to be aware of, and decided to give the information to the FBI of his own volition. This was an intelligence agent who specialized in kompromat individuals as his primary line of work.
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CEs_EFG posted...

well with that logic i can just say that this is also not the full memo, but it clearly states that the source for the Dossier was paid for by the DNC and the fact that it was paid for was kept secret

We literally already know this. We also know that a republican commissioned the dossier initially before the DNC continued paying for it. This is called opposition research, and every campaign does it.
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The Great Muta 22 posted...

What do you think this says? You realize FISA warrants are something like 50 pages long normally and are loaded with dozens upon dozens pieces of information. Them selectively highlighting "Muh dossier and Yahoo News!" doesn't mean that's the only information used. Especially considering Page had a warrant against him since 2013 and these were requests for a renewal. The entire argument from the people against this memo has been it selectively portrays information and doesn't tell the entire story, and that's exactly what this memo shows.

https://twitter.com/jmclaughlinSAIS/status/958212056892755969

FISA warrants typically are big thick documents, 50-60 pages. If the Nunes memo about one is just 4 pages, you can bet its a carefully picked bowl of cherries. Made all the more dishonest by holding back the minority rebuttal memo. A real debate needs both. Someone fears that.

Head of the CIA right here.
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Grim Dawn if you want a Diablo clone that's very good.
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Steve Nick posted...

Antifar posted...

CEs_EFG posted...

you can throw your head in the sand if you want but if you seriously believe they didn't spy on people associated with Trumps campaign after stating multiple times they are scared shitless of Trump then you're neck deep in denial

His point is entirely that they spied on people in Trump's campaign; he is not denying that. But that is different from spying on Trump as you had earlier framed it.

Is this just like your argument that Trump didn't talk to Russia, his minions did?

Whether Trump spoke to Russia or his minions did, what matters is if he knew about it or was complicit in it. Trump himself does not physically have to be seen shirtless with Putin to be considered colluding with him.
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