Current Events > Black Mirror - "White Bear"

(+) Yeah! (+)

Wow, the most real episode I've seen.

It was a good twist, but until that point it was a pretty boring episode. I can't give something my stamp of approval if the twist is the only reason its good.
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Who do you root for in that episode?

Yeah, the girl did what she did, but her memory of everything is erased every night, so in the morning, she is pretty much completely innocent.
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Great episode indeed. Too bad we don't have that kind of system.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

Great episode indeed. Too bad we don't have that kind of system.

That system is only ok if she gets released. Her memory is wiped. No reason to keep up the torture.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

Great episode indeed. Too bad we don't have that kind of system.

That system is only ok if she gets released. Her memory is wiped. No reason to keep up the torture.

People who are literally 100% guilty of murder should have zero rights. I personally find it disgusting we even feed such animals in the real world. Tax money hard at work ensuring rapists and murderers get fed, what a society.
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In real like that would count as cruel and unusual punishment.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

Great episode indeed. Too bad we don't have that kind of system.

That system is only ok if she gets released. Her memory is wiped. No reason to keep up the torture.

People who are literally 100% guilty of murder should have zero rights. I personally find it disgusting we even feed such animals in the real world. Tax money hard at work ensuring rapists and murderers get fed, what a society.

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.
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I remember watching BM late at night, I started watching the episode before that one (I think when her boyfriend died in the car crash or something?) but fell asleep and then woke up to White Bear... I was so effing confused.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Who do you root for in that episode?

Yeah, the girl did what she did, but her memory of everything is erased every night, so in the morning, she is pretty much completely innocent.

Yeah, I was like well ***** deserved it, but then when I saw how the audience was reacting joyfully to torturing her I was like wow that's pretty hardcore. The audience and everyone was acting as bad as she was. Trippy episode.

It's a good thing they close it down.
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GregShmedley posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.

It is frightening that people think this way.

I sincerely hope you're trolling. Jesus Christ.

Right? Seriously. You REALLY think a cold blooded murderer or a rapist is going to get better? Lol. Have them move in with you and your family if you trust them so much.

Waste of space and resources. Best to experiment on them. They found a sexual pleasure in what atrocities they do to their victims. Why should anyone be treated as a human after that?

I'm pretty sure that guy is trolling though. I really don't understand why anyone would care oh so deeply about scum.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

GregShmedley posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.

It is frightening that people think this way.

I sincerely hope you're trolling. Jesus Christ.

Right? Seriously. You REALLY think a cold blooded murderer or a rapist is going to get better? Lol. Have them move in with you and your family if you trust them so much.

Waste of space and resources. Best to experiment on them. They found a sexual pleasure in what atrocities they do to their victims. Why should anyone be treated as a human after that?

I'm pretty sure that guy is trolling though. I really don't understand why anyone would care oh so deeply about scum.

No one is perfect and people make mistakes. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.
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TheRealDill2000 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

GregShmedley posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.

It is frightening that people think this way.

I sincerely hope you're trolling. Jesus Christ.

Right? Seriously. You REALLY think a cold blooded murderer or a rapist is going to get better? Lol. Have them move in with you and your family if you trust them so much.

Waste of space and resources. Best to experiment on them. They found a sexual pleasure in what atrocities they do to their victims. Why should anyone be treated as a human after that?

I'm pretty sure that guy is trolling though. I really don't understand why anyone would care oh so deeply about scum.

No one is perfect and people make mistakes. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.

This is why we treat something like a crime of passion differently from a serial murderer: because human beings are not irredeemable for doing something like this, and they are capable of atoning. The inhumane thing is stripping the accused of their rights since our system is inherently flawed and there's tons of cases where people walk away from death row innocent of their crimes. Thank God no one in any position to change things thinks like Fayt does, it would be an absolutely travesty to have an innocent individual used as an unwilling test subject because of cynicism.
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UrCa1988 posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

FaytlessHearts posted...

GregShmedley posted...

TheRealDill2000 posted...

I hope you never run for office. Murderers should have the same rights and opportunities as every other citizen. Assuming they aren't repeat offenders, they shouldn't be locked away indefinitely or killed. A (hopefully) short period of rehabilitation should allow them to rejoin society.

It is frightening that people think this way.

I sincerely hope you're trolling. Jesus Christ.

Right? Seriously. You REALLY think a cold blooded murderer or a rapist is going to get better? Lol. Have them move in with you and your family if you trust them so much.

Waste of space and resources. Best to experiment on them. They found a sexual pleasure in what atrocities they do to their victims. Why should anyone be treated as a human after that?

I'm pretty sure that guy is trolling though. I really don't understand why anyone would care oh so deeply about scum.

No one is perfect and people make mistakes. I believe that everyone deserves a second chance.

This is why we treat something like a crime of passion differently from a serial murderer: because human beings are not irredeemable for doing something like this, and they are capable of atoning. The inhumane thing is stripping the accused of their rights since our system is inherently flawed and there's tons of cases where people walk away from death row innocent of their crimes. Thank God no one in any position to change things thinks like Fayt does, it would be an absolutely travesty to have an innocent individual used as an unwilling test subject because of cynicism.

Clearly the dill guy is trolling.

God didn't save victims from those who are 100% guilty, as stated above. Certaintly didn't do much to prevent it, or prevent repeat offenders from doing it again.

I understand the flaws in the system, and it is terrible there are very, very few innocent individuals awaiting death. My argument was for those that literally have mounds of hard evidence/confessions to only further prove that they've done it. Those are the ones that deserve no rights whatsoever.

Funny how people who argue these things always jump from 100% guilty to totally innocent individual. Strawhat, or red herring? Hm.
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FaytlessHearts posted...

Clearly the dill guy is trolling.

Pot meet kettle.
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It's not even torture if she doesn't remember anything. She's literally just experiencing everything for the first time each time it happens, there's no prolonged torture. It's more like they've already executed her since she's not getting any new memories anymore. It's just a fucking waste of time and resources for the actors to keep up the useless charade and they might as well just record it and execute her and have the same outcome.
Unless they eventually let her out in which case she basically just got put in a really long coma because all those repeated years amount to just a few days for her.
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